**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 14 02:59:56 2007
Sep 14 11:43:31 <koen> wth?
Sep 14 11:43:44 <koen> did the population get dumber?
Sep 14 11:44:01 <koen> "Q: what do you miss in the matchbox window manager?"
Sep 14 11:44:20 <koen> "A: Ethereal and other network diagnostic tools" 
Sep 14 11:46:27 <dcordes> koen: can I get that thingy for in gui? :D
Sep 14 11:46:38 * dcordes ducks
Sep 14 11:47:57 <koen> ignoring the fact that ethereal is now named wireshark, which has been in the feeds for ages...
Sep 14 11:49:06 <dcordes> have a heart for wifi people
Sep 14 11:55:40 <XorA> dcordes: its just proof 802.11 radiation rots brains
Sep 14 11:59:00 <XorA> koen: have answered to save you
Sep 14 12:01:05 * XorA finds more ammo against hh.org, a company called GPE https://www.gpe-hkg.com/
Sep 14 12:08:51 <dcordes> what is an angstrom-x11-pimlico-image?
Sep 14 12:09:11 <XorA> with pimlico PIM suite
Sep 14 12:09:27 <XorA> dcordes: BTW how did your video playing go?
Sep 14 12:10:08 <dcordes> it plays very fluid but unfortunately as I mentioned it had a slightly wrong aspect ration
Sep 14 12:10:13 <dcordes> s/ration/ratio
Sep 14 12:10:56 <dcordes> you told me to add black bars to  correct that but I don't know how
Sep 14 12:12:31 <XorA> -vf scale=320:-2,expand=320:240,rotate=1
Sep 14 12:12:33 <XorA> I think
Sep 14 12:13:14 <XorA> in encoding script
Sep 14 12:13:24 <XorA> try it for a short snippet
Sep 14 12:15:56 <dcordes> encoding..
Sep 14 12:18:03 <dcordes> XorA: betweeen, does akita's speaker work for you with current statefile?
Sep 14 12:18:18 <XorA> dcordes: without an akita, I have no clue
Sep 14 12:18:27 <XorA> and I havent tested spitz for ages
Sep 14 12:20:54 <dcordes> hm
Sep 14 12:21:23 <dcordes> somehow the Speaker works but almost unhearable silent at full "Speaker" volume
Sep 14 12:21:28 <dcordes> and Spekar switch to on
Sep 14 12:22:10 <XorA> dcordes: there is a bug with a updated state file
Sep 14 12:22:27 <XorA> dcordes: Ive just not had any spitz devel time to test/tune/fix the files
Sep 14 12:23:55 <dcordes> is it easy to say what exactly might be wrong with the case described?
Sep 14 12:24:37 <XorA> dcordes: I seem to recall one of the mixers is set to L-R instead of L+R
Sep 14 12:24:50 <XorA> dcordes: gimme a few mins, Ill boot up the spitz and take a look
Sep 14 12:24:57 <dcordes> thanks
Sep 14 12:25:29 <dcordes> fbset doesn't like me/akita. Sometimes it does wierd things like splitting the screen into 8 parts of the same size
Sep 14 12:25:43 <dcordes> looks pretty funny with the video playing
Sep 14 12:25:57 <dcordes> but the black bars seem correct
Sep 14 12:26:55 <koen> which fbset?
Sep 14 12:26:58 <XorA> dcordes: yeah, I have seen that effect with spitz as well, never really tracked it down, it must be a timing issue
Sep 14 12:27:01 <koen> the real one or the busybox one?
Sep 14 12:27:10 <XorA> koen: its a bug in pxafb
Sep 14 12:27:19 <XorA> koen: Ive seen it a lot in testing
Sep 14 12:27:27 <koen> the busybox one is broken anyway :)
Sep 14 12:29:52 <XorA> dcordes: unmute Right Speaker Invert
Sep 14 12:30:07 <XorA> Right Speaker Playback Invert
Sep 14 12:33:57 <XorA> that makes speaker LOUD :-)
Sep 14 12:34:04 <dcordes> let me try
Sep 14 12:34:21 <XorA> in alsamixer go to the furthers right
Sep 14 12:34:30 <XorA> and its 5 controls back
Sep 14 12:34:47 <rwhitby> XorA: is it intentional that all the useful controls are right at the other end?
Sep 14 12:35:03 <dcordes> lol
Sep 14 12:35:04 <rwhitby> i.e. can you choose the ordering in any way?
Sep 14 12:35:08 <XorA> rwhitby: they are alphabetic and out of my control, alsa-lib is a nightmare
Sep 14 12:35:14 <rwhitby> ah,ok
Sep 14 12:35:25 <rwhitby> can you rename them to AAA-Speaker ?
Sep 14 12:35:30 <XorA> rwhitby: alsa-lib was never really conceived for hunders of controls, only the 20 or so on a PC
Sep 14 12:35:44 <rwhitby> (like the yellow pages?)
Sep 14 12:35:48 <XorA> rwhitby: the last codec I did had 108 invididual controls, and Im sure I missed some
Sep 14 12:36:39 <XorA> rwhitby: lrg's plan is to upgrade alsa-lib to only show controls on the currently enabled auid paths, that would cut the 50+ for zaurus down to about 5
Sep 14 12:37:07 <XorA> rwhitby: one of the benefits of ASoC is knowing the audio path inside the silicon
Sep 14 12:37:14 <dcordes> XorA: Right Speaker Playback Invert [Off] can't be switched to On (with up/down keys, right?)
Sep 14 12:37:22 <XorA> dcordes: M key
Sep 14 12:37:30 <dcordes> aaahh :D
Sep 14 12:37:38 <XorA> dcordes: yet another stupid GUI :-)
Sep 14 12:37:49 <XorA> dcordes: and <space> for capture if I remeer right
Sep 14 12:37:59 <XorA> engineers should not design gui's
Sep 14 12:38:02 <XorA> -'
Sep 14 12:38:39 <dcordes> finnaly :D
Sep 14 12:38:45 <dcordes> working
Sep 14 12:38:58 <dcordes> good old buzzer
Sep 14 12:39:18 * koen does a string compare on 'matchbox-wm' and 'angstrom'
Sep 14 12:40:14 <XorA> matchbox-wm > angstrom
Sep 14 12:40:22 <dcordes> XorA: did you notice spitz waking up from standby after plugging/pulling cf cards/headphones?
Sep 14 12:40:45 <XorA> dcordes: headphones thing is the proper behavuiour, the headphone detect is a wake up IRQ
Sep 14 12:41:32 <XorA> what is really needed is a restoration of the old, suspend if closed on clamshells
Sep 14 12:41:37 <XorA> but user configurable
Sep 14 12:41:39 <dcordes> is there any way to control wake up events?
Sep 14 12:42:27 <dcordes> too slow :)
Sep 14 12:42:32 <dcordes> how can I do so?
Sep 14 12:43:10 * XorA doesnt know
Sep 14 12:47:19 * dcordes needs a computer which is fast enough for X11
Sep 14 12:50:08 <XorA> heh heh
Sep 14 12:50:25 <XorA> my amd64 which used to be a beast is these days too slow :-()
Sep 14 12:50:29 <dcordes> 500mhz katmai is driving me crazy
Sep 14 12:51:12 <dcordes> I sold my old desktop which was a mistake because week later my laptop broke and I had to rma it
Sep 14 12:51:21 <XorA> :-
Sep 14 12:51:23 <XorA> (
Sep 14 12:51:35 <dcordes> and now I 
Sep 14 12:51:49 <dcordes> and now I'm stuck with that machine from 1999
Sep 14 12:51:56 <dcordes> with year2k ready sticker on it
Sep 14 12:52:04 <XorA> dcordes: you need to get to bank robbin
Sep 14 12:52:30 <dcordes> XorA: I need to kick a certain laptop manufacutrer's ass so they hurry up
Sep 14 12:54:42 <dcordes> they told me to not carry the repair costs after I sent it in, then needed 3 weeks to redecide that they will pay it
Sep 14 12:55:32 <dcordes> now the missing part (hinge) is n/a at the moment so I have to wait and wait and wait
Sep 14 12:56:10 <koen> XorA: http://aruiz.typepad.com/siliconisland/2007/09/git-silent-brea.html
Sep 14 13:04:54 <XorA> dcordes: well at least they didnt say, you installed linux, that voids your warantee :-)
Sep 14 13:05:50 <XorA> koen: heh heh, not seen anything that bad, but GIT still sucks ass
Sep 14 13:05:58 <XorA> koen: and is slow as hell on my old ADSL
Sep 14 13:09:07 <dcordes> XorA: reading through their terms of * I noticed them mentioning that the use of any kind of non authorized/tested software will void the warantee
Sep 14 13:09:20 <dcordes> but I don't give my hard drive to them
Sep 14 13:10:25 <dcordes> but I heard of some manufacturers that require a hard drive when you send your device in
Sep 14 13:10:38 <XorA> dcordes: Im assuming you didnt see the post on /. where a big UK vendor totally broke the law
Sep 14 13:10:51 <dcordes> no I didn't
Sep 14 13:11:39 <XorA> refused to fix a blokes laptop as it has linux on it, but according to uk law within first 6 months a purchase all faults are deemed to be manufacture falts and must be fixed no arguments
Sep 14 13:12:08 <dcordes> poor vendor
Sep 14 13:12:46 <dcordes> does that 6 month thing also apply to other EU countries?
Sep 14 13:14:01 <XorA> dcordes: I beleive so, but it will be variable depending on how the law was enacted
Sep 14 13:22:35 <dcordes> XorA: between, encoding works fine with the addition
Sep 14 13:23:11 <dcordes> I mean the aspect ratio is now correct during playback
Sep 14 13:23:43 <XorA> dcordes: yeah, I just prefer to use the wasted screen space more than I care about skinnier stars
Sep 14 13:35:07 <XorA> NEWSBREAK, real minerals found in McDonalds food :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/6994646.stm
Sep 14 13:52:12 <XorA> gah, why cant I find out if the Sky Sports Weekender also includes Unforgiven
Sep 14 14:37:52 <dcordes> XorA: an alternative would be to zoom but then you waste parts of stars :D
Sep 14 14:38:13 <XorA> dcordes: as long as the boobs are in center thats fine by me :-D
Sep 14 14:38:27 <dcordes> true
Sep 14 14:38:56 <Darth_Wader> arrgh
Sep 14 14:38:58 <Darth_Wader> http://pastebin.ca/697583
Sep 14 14:39:30 <Darth_Wader> NOTE: package gpe-mini-browser-0.21-r0: task do_configure: failed
Sep 14 14:42:42 <dcordes> libgpg-error_1.4.bb failed
Sep 14 14:42:44 <dcordes> arrrrrrrrrrrrr
Sep 14 14:43:15 <Darth_Wader> lol
Sep 14 14:43:20 <Darth_Wader> bad week for angstrom
Sep 14 14:43:30 <dcordes> hat another bug yesterday
Sep 14 14:43:35 <dcordes> had
Sep 14 14:44:22 <dcordes> Darth_Wader: what machine are you building for?
Sep 14 14:44:28 <Darth_Wader> h2200, as always :)
Sep 14 14:45:00 <dcordes> one of the older ipaq machines isn't it?
Sep 14 14:45:07 <Darth_Wader> not too old
Sep 14 14:45:24 <Darth_Wader> xscale 400MHz/64ram/32rom/bt/sd+cf
Sep 14 14:45:28 <Darth_Wader> 320x240 
Sep 14 14:45:30 <dcordes> nice
Sep 14 14:45:45 <dcordes> zaurus clamshell resolution is unbeatable :)
Sep 14 14:47:07 <dcordes> Darth_Wader: bt 1 or 2?
Sep 14 14:47:14 <Darth_Wader> 1
Sep 14 14:47:28 <Darth_Wader> its wm2002/2003 device
Sep 14 14:47:40 <dcordes> ah ok. I whish the zaurus had bt
Sep 14 14:47:53 <dcordes> Pitty that sharp canceled production
Sep 14 14:48:31 <dcordes> I bet a zaurus with better connectivity and bit faster system would sell very good
Sep 14 14:48:33 <Darth_Wader> bt of h2200 are worse that koen/psokolovsky carma :/
Sep 14 14:48:43 <dcordes> carma?
Sep 14 14:49:20 <Darth_Wader> erm.. karma
Sep 14 14:50:08 <XorA> dcordes: tosa has BT in some models :-)
Sep 14 14:51:55 <dcordes> what's karma?
Sep 14 14:52:28 <XorA> dcordes: if you do good shit, you get good shit returned, if you do bad shit, bad shit comes back
Sep 14 14:53:16 <dcordes> ok
Sep 14 15:07:39 <dcordes> bye
Sep 14 16:49:36 <dcordes> are the latest pre built images on angstrom-distribution.org 2008 ones?
Sep 14 16:51:21 <koen> no
Sep 14 16:53:02 <dcordes> I'm trying to builda kernel module but that is built for 2.6.21. the image I got from the site is 2.6.22
Sep 14 16:53:38 <dcordes> I set my local.conf for akita and angstrom-2007.1 and updated and pulled before
Sep 14 16:53:49 <flux__> hello :)
Sep 14 16:54:52 <flux__> excuse me, if a software isn't in OE-bitbake... is it difficult to add it in in order to build it for angstrom ?
Sep 14 16:55:36 <dcordes> flux__: no it's simple. All you have to do is create a so called recipe which tells OE how to build your package.
Sep 14 16:57:04 <dcordes> flux__: see here http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Bbfile
Sep 14 16:57:22 <flux__> ok, thx :)
Sep 14 16:57:36 <dcordes> no problem
Sep 14 16:59:38 <dcordes> koen: any idea what might be the reason that my OE is building the module for 2.6.21?
Sep 14 16:59:50 <koen> no idea, sorry
Sep 14 16:59:58 <koen> haven't looked at zaurus stuff in a while
Sep 14 17:00:43 <dcordes> is there a way to force building for a certain kernel version?
Sep 14 17:00:57 <dcordes> I noticed the $KERNELVERISON variable in the recipe
Sep 14 17:20:45 <mr_nice> as a machine maintainer, am I permitted to upload modified angstrom images to the official pub? 
Sep 14 17:39:13 <koen> no, only unmodified
Sep 14 17:43:59 <mmp> hi, are there any build logs for angstrom images? there are no images for h5000 devices in the lastest "snapshot" (http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/h5000/20070828/)
Sep 14 17:44:40 <dcordes> mr_nice: you were reading my mind. I just wanted to ask wether images on the site can have extra installed ackages or not
Sep 14 17:47:32 <mr_nice> am I allowed to call it angstrom flawor image and upoad it some where else?
Sep 14 17:50:40 <psokolovsky> mmp: how build logs would help?
Sep 14 17:51:05 <mmp> psokolovsky: just an idea what went wrong:)
Sep 14 17:51:33 <mmp> I wonder if my kernel modifications changed something, so image was not built successfully
Sep 14 17:51:38 <psokolovsky> mmp: images absent for the bunch of machines. likely, weren't built at all
Sep 14 17:52:00 <psokolovsky> mmp: no. all kernel modifications are under CI control
Sep 14 17:52:15 <mmp> psokolovsky: what is 'CI' ?
Sep 14 17:52:33 <psokolovsky> continuous integration
Sep 14 17:52:57 <mmp> aha:)
Sep 14 18:03:37 <koen> mr_nice: no, you're not allowed to call it that
Sep 14 18:03:52 <koen> mr_nice: if you want to modify and image, add an image recipe to OE for it
Sep 14 18:31:20 <mr_nice> how can I get a comment on that power off stuff for the simpad. If it is ok for angstrom or not? I am tired of asking about it and don't getting any response. I know that there are not that much simpad owner in angstrom but isn't every machine equal important ?
Sep 14 18:38:15 <dnix> hi all!
Sep 14 18:38:27 <dnix> any news concerning h6300?
Sep 14 19:36:46 <vanguard> Hi all. I tested the latest images (those with 2.6.22-kernel). There is a big bug in it. Must I report it into reportbug ?
Sep 14 19:37:58 <XorA|gone> vanguard: yes
Sep 14 19:38:20 <vanguard> I hate the website !
Sep 14 19:39:03 <XorA|gone> bugs.openembedded.org
Sep 14 19:39:14 <XorA|gone> what is the bug for reference?
Sep 14 19:39:27 <vanguard> Yes, I know. But IMO the page is very complicated.
Sep 14 19:40:02 <vanguard> The sd-card is not seen and cannot be mounted.
Sep 14 19:40:46 <vanguard> So it cannot be booted from sd-card. So it is unusable.,
Sep 14 19:40:54 <XorA|gone> vanguard: akita?
Sep 14 19:41:00 <vanguard> Yes.
Sep 14 19:41:08 <XorA|gone> yeah, thats the machine I cant test
Sep 14 19:41:34 <vanguard> I suppose, it is the same reason, like some months ago.
Sep 14 19:42:32 <vanguard> If you could fix it, I would like to test it. The problem is: All kernel-modules in the feed are now 2.6.22, and the running kernel is 2.6.21.
Sep 14 19:42:54 <vanguard> So, ipkg upgrade is destroying the system.
Sep 14 19:44:01 <XorA|gone> just flash a newer kernel
Sep 14 19:44:18 <vanguard> The newest kernel is not working ! :)
Sep 14 19:44:28 <vanguard> That is the bug.
Sep 14 19:44:46 <vanguard> I had to switch to the older kernel.
Sep 14 19:44:51 <vanguard> 2.6.21
Sep 14 19:45:11 <vanguard> But my kernel-modules are now 2.6.22.
Sep 14 19:45:21 <vanguard> And this will not work.
Sep 14 19:46:08 <vanguard> Anyway, you should know, the reason for it: the sd-card is not seen at boot, and cannot be mounted. 
Sep 14 19:46:58 <vanguard> The device is not seen. Strange: You can mount /dev/mmcblk0, but it must be /dev/mmcblk0p1 !
Sep 14 19:47:44 <vanguard> This bug was some months ago, with kernel 2.6.18
Sep 14 19:48:04 <XorA|gone> thats a new bug on me
Sep 14 19:48:18 <XorA|gone> but I dont have akita, so I really dont have a clue at what a state it is in
Sep 14 19:48:32 <XorA|gone> no-one stepped up to become akita maintainer
Sep 14 19:48:44 <vanguard> I suppose, it was in collie, too.
Sep 14 19:49:08 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: akita == spitz for almost everything
Sep 14 19:49:15 <vanguard> Why is akita so uninteresting ?
Sep 14 19:49:39 <vanguard> Is the hardware so bad ????
Sep 14 19:49:49 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: not for kernel
Sep 14 19:50:08 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: really? I thought the main (only) diff was the hd
Sep 14 19:50:13 <XorA|gone> vanguard: you could buy akita, or for a whole 50GBP more get a 6 gig HD in spitz
Sep 14 19:50:49 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: no, there is large difference in hardware, so it has a different kernel, spitz has 2x scoop, akita has 1x scoop and io extender
Sep 14 19:51:18 <vanguard> In Germany it costs about 150 Euro more.
Sep 14 19:51:20 <Zero_Chaos> had I know that, I may have bought the spitz
Sep 14 19:51:27 <vanguard> This is a lot !
Sep 14 19:52:47 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: BTW havent forgotten your patches, still in mind to look at them on 22nd
Sep 14 19:53:26 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: roger that. email address?
Sep 14 19:54:03 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: can you file them in bugzilla and mail a list of bugs to dp@xora.org.uk
Sep 14 19:54:11 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: sure
Sep 14 19:54:34 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: btw is there a gtk frontend for kismet?
Sep 14 19:55:02 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: there is gkismet, but I wouldn't really recommend it
Sep 14 19:55:29 <vanguard> XorA|gone: Do you also build the kernel-modules ?
Sep 14 19:55:34 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: pity, people are asking for GUI network sniffer
Sep 14 19:55:44 <vanguard> wellenreiter ?
Sep 14 19:55:50 <XorA|gone> vanguard: I can mon-fri build akita modules
Sep 14 19:55:56 <XorA|gone> vanguard: as my work machine is a monster
Sep 14 19:56:04 <XorA|gone> vanguard: opie network scanner
Sep 14 19:56:09 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: people are retarded, the kismet_client is fantastic
Sep 14 19:56:12 <vanguard> Yes, I know.,
Sep 14 19:56:30 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: I know, mabe I just give it a .desktop file that fires up rxvt :-)
Sep 14 19:56:48 <XorA|gone> vanguard: GPE is gtk based, be nice to fit in
Sep 14 19:56:58 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: acceptable.  i've pretty much fixed the needing root as well ;-)
Sep 14 19:57:22 <Zero_Chaos> I wish that the added users had a group though, it really fscks shit up that the users are not in the users group
Sep 14 19:57:29 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: we should also make source=hostap,wlan0,hostap standard, that#ll suit 90% of users
Sep 14 19:57:40 <vanguard> XorA|gone: Yes, I understand.
Sep 14 19:57:57 <vanguard> There was another GUI-wlansniffer....
Sep 14 19:58:10 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: we could do that, but honestly, I was thinking of just putting damn near everything in there and leaving it all commented out so the user could pick appropriate
Sep 14 19:58:12 <vanguard> Let me see.
Sep 14 19:58:21 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: or can you add a source for every network card type, use the multiple sources line and let kismet pick
Sep 14 19:58:28 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: I havent tried that
Sep 14 19:58:42 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: if you specify multiple sources and one fails, kismet fails
Sep 14 19:58:49 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: thats unfortuneate
Sep 14 19:59:03 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: I could just run my auto-config script I suppose :-)
Sep 14 19:59:19 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: would that make you happier?
Sep 14 20:00:21 <XorA|gone> Zero_Chaos: wrapping kismet in a autoconf script would rock
Sep 14 20:00:54 <vanguard> SWScanner ! A fine GTK-based wireless scanner.
Sep 14 20:01:06 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: well, I've done it before so I suppose I could, but the caveat is that it would use any  and all wifi cards found, and that may not be desired.... I may be able to fix that, but I'm not saying I have the inclination.
Sep 14 20:01:24 <vanguard> XorA|gone: Can you try to build ov511-sources ?
Sep 14 20:01:57 <XorA|gone> vanguard: its not mon-fri working hours
Sep 14 20:02:20 <vanguard> smile. Not now, maybe mon-fri ?
Sep 14 20:03:32 <vanguard> Zero_Chaos: SWScanner is a GUI-Wlanscanner.
Sep 14 20:03:42 <Zero_Chaos> vanguard: couldn't possibly care less, kismet is the best, period. but thanks.
Sep 14 20:04:03 <vanguard> Yes, kismet is much better, but has only a simple GUI.
Sep 14 20:04:33 <XorA|gone> simple == has all the info it is possible to extract
Sep 14 20:05:19 <vanguard> XorA|gone: Yes, but for newbies it is very tricky.
Sep 14 20:05:29 <Zero_Chaos> yeah, pressing 'h' is pretty tought
Sep 14 20:05:35 <Zero_Chaos> s/tought/tough
Sep 14 20:05:45 <vanguard> Zero_Chaos: You know, what I mean.
Sep 14 20:06:05 <Zero_Chaos> no, I don't
Sep 14 20:06:12 <vanguard> Otherwise people wouldn#t have asked you.
Sep 14 20:06:41 <Zero_Chaos> the only questions about kismet I have seen are either extremely advanced, or utterly retarded.
Sep 14 20:06:49 <vanguard> I think, people look at something in the kind of wellenreiter, I suppose.
Sep 14 20:07:35 <vanguard> The only similar I found, was the already mentioned "swscanner".
Sep 14 20:08:03 <Zero_Chaos> XorA|gone: I'll get you that stuff before the 22nd, but be warned, it will be a lot ;-)
Sep 14 20:08:12 <Zero_Chaos> laterz
Sep 14 20:12:02 <vanguard> Hmm, seems not so interesting.... o.k. :)
Sep 14 20:27:12 * XorA begins to wonder what happens when your mortgage company goes bankrupt
Sep 14 20:27:49 <Crofton> good question, I guess you get the house :)
Sep 14 20:30:32 <XorA> damn you americans and your sub prime :-D
Sep 14 20:30:53 <vanguard> Can someone tell me, what this "morgue" directory is good for ?
Sep 14 20:31:07 <Crofton> have you seen Stephen Colbert interviewing the wall street bigshot
Sep 14 20:31:08 <XorA> vanguard: deleting
Sep 14 20:31:14 <XorA> Crofton: no
Sep 14 20:31:32 <Crofton> XorA, I would guess your mortgage gets sold to another company
Sep 14 20:31:47 <vanguard> What do you mean ?
Sep 14 20:32:01 <XorA> vanguard: its old ipk's that have been superceeded
Sep 14 20:32:13 <vanguard> Yes, I understand.
Sep 14 20:35:24 <vanguard> May I ask you from mon-fri because of the kernel ?
Sep 14 20:35:50 <Crofton> XorA, It is priceless
Sep 14 20:36:13 <XorA> vanguard: Tuesday 9am GMT I will have access to fast machine again
Sep 14 20:36:29 <XorA> vanguard: but for akita all I can do is build .bb recipes I cant make new ones
Sep 14 20:37:31 <vanguard> XorA: Yes, yes, no hurry ! Maybe someone will fix the bug. I will be pleased, If I could test and help with my tests.
Sep 14 22:10:50 <Ungoliant> hello!
Sep 14 22:18:40 <ungoliant> hello!
Sep 14 22:19:15 <ungoliant> does any one know how to install cacko and angstrom at the same time on a zaurus SL-3100?
Sep 14 22:19:58 <ungoliant> I tried some ways, but I always find a panicking kernel
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