**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 20 02:59:57 2007 Sep 20 06:13:01 ls Sep 20 06:13:06 oops Sep 20 06:27:23 hi -lah Sep 20 06:51:17 i want to use directfb as the backend but x11. but after i modified DEPENDS in pango.inc & cairo.inc, the depends for xrender and x11 package is not removed. Sep 20 06:51:32 why it act as this, and how to correct the recipe? Sep 20 08:38:22 http://www.amazon.co.uk/PSP-Slim-and-Lite-Black/dp/B000TV12Z2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/026-5604105-5348425?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1190277294&sr=8-2 Sep 20 08:38:35 bargain of the century, a whole 0.01 GBP off the price Sep 20 08:49:05 that's an amazing discount price Sep 20 09:02:58 hi there Sep 20 09:03:37 XorA: if i send my BT card to any angstrom dev (or a similar one) is there a chance the card will be supported ? Sep 20 09:06:30 ABC|dOC: wait for hrw|honeymoon as I think he has that card Sep 20 09:06:43 ABC|dOC: a week and a half time he should be back Sep 20 09:12:40 XorA: ok, i won't use GPRS connexion until he's back from honeymoon :) Sep 20 11:16:14 XorA: i'm afraid hrw hates my BT card :( Sep 20 11:16:16 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2006/01/31/ Sep 20 11:18:37 what bluetooth cards are know to be fully working on angstrom, and having good perfs ? Sep 20 11:21:08 ABC|dOC: i dont know, Sep 20 11:21:14 but im using a usb dongle for mine. Sep 20 11:21:29 its a pain in some ways, because its bulky and it dangles out of the port, Sep 20 11:21:37 but it works fine. Sep 20 11:29:05 ABC|dOC: I have a billionton one that works mostly, I have a USB one that works better Sep 20 11:29:29 koen|gprs: ahah, vast improvement on pxa27x mplayer benchmarks with that svn version of mplayer Sep 20 11:33:46 XorA: shame on me, i didn't installed the appropriate kernel module Sep 20 11:33:48 it's working now Sep 20 11:33:51 almost Sep 20 11:34:00 XorA: great Sep 20 11:35:01 how to make my Z to be viewable with bluetooth scan from other devices §? Sep 20 11:35:25 XorA: are we on par with atty now? Sep 20 11:36:58 koen|gprs: no idea, as I dont actually see the figures for atty in the thread Sep 20 11:38:33 ABC|dOC: iirc my phone just "found" it. Sep 20 11:38:46 i have my z with me atm so i can check some stuff for you. Sep 20 11:39:35 XorA: is it in the feeds yet? Sep 20 11:39:58 koen|gprs: no, I havent actually run it yet, just running through benchmarks Sep 20 11:40:06 and im not sure about uploading svn mplayers to feed Sep 20 11:41:21 like mlayer releases are a pilar of stability.... Sep 20 11:42:31 hell of a lot more stable than xorg releases :-D Sep 20 11:42:49 ~lart nokia Sep 20 11:43:07 HRH_H_Crab: tks to you, could you send me your /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf ? Sep 20 11:43:22 i bet its part of ari's asterplsn to prove foss sucks Sep 20 11:43:31 ABC|dOC: hang on... Sep 20 11:43:48 sure ;) Sep 20 11:44:37 HRH_H_Crab: when i try to connect on my gsm from my Z via bluetooth, my phone ask me for the pin code, i write the one is sended with givepin command, but my Z tell me : Failed to open /dev/rfcomm0: Connection refused Sep 20 11:44:41 if it can help Sep 20 11:47:02 HRH_H_Crab: my Z is watchable on bluetooth scans now; ) Sep 20 11:47:16 ABC|dOC: dont worry about rfcomm... Sep 20 11:47:23 can you use ssh on your phone? Sep 20 11:47:31 like with a little java applet? Sep 20 11:47:44 heres how i work with pand: Sep 20 11:48:02 first i have bnep0 defined in /etc/network/interfaces Sep 20 11:48:03 no i've a sad bad gsm Sep 20 11:48:05 nokia n70 Sep 20 11:48:12 can't use PAN i think Sep 20 11:48:14 i think its the angstrom default. Sep 20 11:48:16 bah Sep 20 11:48:31 thats annoying, because its so easy with pand. Sep 20 11:48:46 yes i read many things about it tomorrow Sep 20 11:48:52 but my gsm isn't that modern :p Sep 20 11:49:12 i can use pppd in bluetooth, but my phone and my Z seems to not want to associate each others Sep 20 11:50:01 i just do pand --connect --service NAP --autozap ifup bnep0 Sep 20 11:50:26 where is my phone. Sep 20 11:50:35 now, if only getting my gps working was so simple. Sep 20 11:51:06 im not sure how i got association working. Sep 20 11:51:18 i could scan the phone from z with hcitool scan Sep 20 11:51:27 me too Sep 20 11:51:28 and i could see the z with the phone. Sep 20 11:52:49 i think i just did this one time, (the pand command), and the phone said "hey this dude is trying to use me as a modem, wth should i do?" Sep 20 11:53:01 and i said, "let him, and never ask again you bastard!" Sep 20 11:53:07 or somethign along those lines! ;) Sep 20 11:53:57 koen|gprs: heh heh heh that mplayer is mildly buggered :-) Sep 20 11:57:16 HRH_H_Crab: i used this trick on OZ too Sep 20 11:57:24 but i removed my Z profile in GSM Sep 20 11:57:44 so i must tell him again : give Z the internet, shut the fuck up, and never disturb me again with stupid questions Sep 20 11:57:44 aaah Sep 20 11:57:51 but for moment i try to link them Sep 20 11:57:52 yeah that is the hard part. Sep 20 11:58:02 i write pin code on phone, but not working :( Sep 20 11:58:18 oh ! Sep 20 11:58:22 it's done now Sep 20 11:58:24 :) Sep 20 11:58:28 need to start linking from gsm Sep 20 11:58:31 then all is ok Sep 20 11:58:52 oh... connecting to ISP Sep 20 11:58:57 getting IP Sep 20 11:59:43 seems working Sep 20 11:59:49 tks HRH_H_Crab for you funny help ;) Sep 20 12:00:55 the "one way only" bluetooth auth is not new, i had it on OZ too Sep 20 12:01:32 the whole thing is a bit messy and frustrating. Sep 20 12:01:36 but it could be worse... Sep 20 12:01:40 it could be wifi! :D Sep 20 12:01:49 ? Sep 20 12:01:54 ive been trying to get multiple profiles working, Sep 20 12:01:58 i'm not very good in english Sep 20 12:02:02 multiple WPA profiles ? Sep 20 12:02:06 well, Sep 20 12:02:08 wep really. Sep 20 12:02:14 i found some debian how tos, Sep 20 12:02:17 using wpa_supplicant ? Sep 20 12:02:22 yeah. Sep 20 12:02:24 i'm a wpa_supplicant several user Sep 20 12:02:37 but they need "manual" mode and that doesnt like my card. Sep 20 12:02:40 i use it for working, for garden party browsing... Sep 20 12:02:45 so now, i am using the old oz way, Sep 20 12:02:51 manual mode ??? Sep 20 12:02:52 which is virtual interfaces. Sep 20 12:02:57 hang on... Sep 20 12:03:08 use wpa_supplicant, put all your different confs in it, and it should work Sep 20 12:03:46 http://www.rustyhatchet.com/articles/2007/06/23/wpa_supplicant-debian-etch Sep 20 12:03:52 that way looked so sexy. Sep 20 12:03:57 i really wanted it to work. Sep 20 12:03:59 but it didnt: Sep 20 12:04:11 iface eth2 inet manual Sep 20 12:04:20 that manual thing there, wouldnt play ball. Sep 20 12:05:16 http://openzaurus.berlios.de/HowTos/WifiMultipleProfiles Sep 20 12:05:22 hmm Sep 20 12:05:22 now im using that method, Sep 20 12:05:25 and the great news is, Sep 20 12:05:28 its working fine. Sep 20 12:05:30 lemme reéad them to understand what you want Sep 20 12:05:30 but... Sep 20 12:05:43 ah !: Sep 20 12:05:49 it means i wont be able to get wifi working at home, just by pulling the card out and replacing it. Sep 20 12:06:00 which will suck massively when i get the backlight bug. Sep 20 12:06:01 the /etc/network/interfaces conf are bad bad bad Sep 20 12:06:01 :( Sep 20 12:06:45 speaking of interfaces, how do you set udhcpc to publish your card's hostname in angstrom ? Sep 20 12:06:48 the 2nd one is not that bad, but still sux imho Sep 20 12:07:09 nud: card's hostname ? what do you mean ? Sep 20 12:07:31 i just set the hostname via the gpe-network config. Sep 20 12:07:47 ABC|dOC: your machine hostname Sep 20 12:08:01 ie I want ssh mymachine to work without having to know its ip Sep 20 12:08:10 "send hostname" in dhclient.conf Sep 20 12:08:13 HRH_H_Crab: my conf is simple : wpa_supplicant.conf with all my wireless networks (i can give you sample config), my /etc/network/interfaces is iface wlan0 dhcp. that's all. if needed to use manual configuration, i wpasupplicant on the desired ssid, then ifconfig wlan0 .... Sep 20 12:08:30 hmmz Sep 20 12:08:39 looks like NS requests Sep 20 12:08:44 or /etc/hosts entry Sep 20 12:08:48 ABC|dOC: i think i used to use that style with oz. Sep 20 12:09:00 so i have my old config for wpa_supplicant.conf. Sep 20 12:09:18 add a line in /etc/hosts : YOURMACHINEHOSTNAME ITSIP Sep 20 12:09:22 ABC|dOC: an entry in /etc/hosts would require me to know the actual ip Sep 20 12:09:26 i actually prefer the new way of doing things (/etc/network/interfaces) as its more "standard" imvho. Sep 20 12:09:29 hmm Sep 20 12:09:31 ok i understand Sep 20 12:09:31 this is exactly what I don't want to do Sep 20 12:09:47 dhcp clients can publish their hostname on the server Sep 20 12:09:48 you want your DHCP server including hosts in zone Sep 20 12:09:56 dnsmasq do it quiet good. Sep 20 12:10:13 so that it appears in its DNS Sep 20 12:10:24 it's the "send hostname" directive on dhclient.conf for dhcp-client Sep 20 12:10:26 you create a local zone (often .lan.) and then you can contact any host from this zone. all hosts can have dynamic ip Sep 20 12:10:48 nud: i'm not pretty sure DHCP client is used to do that stuff Sep 20 12:11:00 coz a dhcpd have a hostname for each DHCP clients Sep 20 12:11:04 ABC|dOC: I've always done it with dhcp-client Sep 20 12:11:15 udhcpc even has a -H option for that purpose Sep 20 12:11:23 may be you can force dhcpd to use a specific hostname for a host Sep 20 12:11:45 but your dhcp server needs to be linked to a DNS server Sep 20 12:11:57 is there anything under /etc/default/ to allow that -H to be set? Sep 20 12:11:59 but I don't know how to set it in /etc/intefaces, since iface eth0 inet dhcp hostname foo doesnt work Sep 20 12:12:04 (just a wild stab in the dark) Sep 20 12:12:22 HRH_H_Crab: no, there isn't Sep 20 12:12:30 udhcpc is controlled by ifup/down Sep 20 12:13:48 if you tell me how I can make dhclient run instead of udhcpc I would be happy too :-) Sep 20 12:23:23 dunno Sep 20 12:23:33 i manage all network services from a big server Sep 20 12:35:14 * XorA starts benchmarking again with the latest working IDCT Sep 20 12:43:39 damn backlight bug :( Sep 20 12:44:43 does anyone have a fix for bl bug ? Sep 20 13:07:51 XorA: i want krn modules to be loaded at boot sequence, where should i configure it ? Sep 20 13:08:05 ABC|dOC: cant remeber Sep 20 13:10:14 ah :) Sep 20 13:11:12 XorA: when i install new kernel module from package, i can insmod it, but not modprobe it Sep 20 13:12:14 depmod -a Sep 20 13:12:21 which should do done automatically Sep 20 13:12:29 but is obviously not working quite right Sep 20 13:19:21 ah tks Sep 20 13:19:41 tks Sep 20 13:24:55 yeah all is working :) Sep 20 13:25:10 GPRS / WiFi / Ethernet script to switch between connexion type Sep 20 13:25:43 i've 2 last questions (for moment) : -where to put scripts to be started at CF insertion (if possible)/ejection Sep 20 13:26:20 -how to create a popup window, (telling me infos like IP address) that can be closed when cliking it, or closing automatically after X seconds Sep 20 13:26:25 someone to help me ? Sep 20 13:29:14 bugger left my cf card at home, can't flash the hx4700 Sep 20 13:39:50 is there any pppd user here ? Sep 20 13:44:11 is there any pppd user here ? Sep 20 13:49:27 koen|gprs: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22280&st=60&p=167647&# Sep 20 13:50:14 does anyone here use or used pppd ? just to know why i'm connected, i get IP, i can join internet hosts, but my /etc/resolv.conf is not updated Sep 20 13:56:00 koen|gprs: fixed the small graphics problems thanks to ssvb Sep 20 13:57:05 pxa27x owning video watches might want to try out mplayer_svn for speed Sep 20 13:58:04 where to find resolvconf binarie ? Sep 20 13:58:27 XorA: i've pxa27x (spitz), do i really need to take mplayer from svn ? i don't know how to compile from a arch for another Sep 20 13:59:06 xora : where to find resolvconf binarie ? Sep 20 13:59:37 ABC|dOC: no, you dont, just people who want to test new stuff Sep 20 14:04:12 XorA: ok tks :) Sep 20 14:04:23 XorA: and what about resolveconf binaries ? Sep 20 14:04:39 ABC|dOC: resolveconf? that bullshit from debian? Sep 20 14:05:57 yes :) Sep 20 14:06:15 * XorA hopes we dont have that in OE Sep 20 14:06:22 or anything like this allowing pppd to change /etc/resolv.conf file on connect Sep 20 14:07:24 ABC|dOC: you mean like pppd when you say use-peer-dns Sep 20 14:07:34 XorA: hmm i believe you :) Sep 20 14:07:44 i'm not that good in english, i'm not sure what you mean Sep 20 14:08:03 yes at all, i want to use peer DNS Sep 20 14:08:03 ABC|dOC: usepeerdns Sep 20 14:08:10 ABC|dOC: thats a command for pppd Sep 20 14:08:16 ok i look now Sep 20 14:08:21 ABC|dOC: it then updates /etc/resolv.conf Sep 20 14:08:31 ok so i use this in cmdline Sep 20 14:08:50 damn Sep 20 14:10:02 ABC|dOC: http://rafb.net/p/Cdj2YB62.html Sep 20 14:10:10 ABC|dOC: thats my pppd script on zaurus Sep 20 14:10:45 ok tks ! Sep 20 14:11:25 it looks like i have no battery left :- Sep 20 14:11:36 is there zaurus usb charger ? Sep 20 14:11:47 zaurus accessories seems to be rare Sep 20 14:11:51 yes but not for akita and spitz Sep 20 14:12:14 no usb charger for SL-C3200 ;( Sep 20 14:12:25 no, it pulls more than 500mA Sep 20 14:12:29 You need 5V. Sep 20 14:12:30 so cant charge from USB Sep 20 14:12:40 2A...... Sep 20 14:13:09 http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=23 Sep 20 14:13:25 that on is not for spitz and akita :( Sep 20 14:13:27 ABC|dOC: there isnt, stop looking Sep 20 14:13:50 xora ok ok :)))) i'm sure i saw one on ebay, maybe a fake :/ Sep 20 14:14:00 ABC|dOC: for early zaurus there are Sep 20 14:14:24 ABC|dOC: but spitz needs more than USB can supply, and I have actually tried this myself Sep 20 14:15:21 And as trisoft told me, it is very angry, if your voltage gets over 5V. Sep 20 14:15:53 There is no regulation built in Zaurii. Sep 20 14:16:09 votage regulator.... Sep 20 14:16:41 vanguard: thats not true, as large chunks of it run at 3.3v Sep 20 14:16:58 vanguard: there is no overvoltage proptection is a better statement Sep 20 14:17:14 Yes, BELOW 5V, but ABOVE 5V will definately destroy it. I was hevily warned ! Sep 20 14:17:35 ok ok i forgot USB charger :) Sep 20 14:17:40 Yeah, My English.... sigh ! Sep 20 14:17:58 so i need to find another sector charger Sep 20 14:18:08 Buy another accumulator or power supply. Sep 20 14:18:09 everyone heres english is well better than my Sep 20 14:18:30 and even that sentence was bad english Sep 20 14:18:58 Doesn't matter, it is more important to understand each other. Sep 20 14:19:25 http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=127 Sep 20 14:19:31 doest this item works on angstrom ? Sep 20 14:19:36 or just native zaurus distro Sep 20 14:19:55 works in Angstrom Sep 20 14:20:06 XorA: I looked, how to set up an environment for building angstrom, but this did not answer my questions. You seem only be able to build sources. Sep 20 14:20:15 Or the whole system. Sep 20 14:20:17 well kernel works, you need to hook the key events up to something Sep 20 14:20:40 XorA: tks, not a problem, it's a good way to learn ;) Sep 20 14:22:22 XorA: But no description, how to built a kernel. You know: the kernel bug......... Sep 20 14:23:58 vanguard: I dont have time to take someone through whole OE build, but all the Docs are on the site, but maybe not in best order or clearest way Sep 20 14:25:16 XorA: I think, there is no problem with the kerne-code itself. I think, the kernel was built wrong. It should have been built with sd-card-module compiled in. Sep 20 14:25:39 vanguard: then you need to change defconfig-machine Sep 20 14:25:54 XorA: Of course it will be easier, if someone would simply rebuild the kernel. Sep 20 14:26:23 Why inventing the wheel for new ! Sep 20 15:05:47 * ade|desk smiles at new hx4700 angstrom system for the little lady :) Sep 20 15:06:31 that with dates/ical support will keep her happy hopfully Sep 20 15:06:37 and stop the nagging Sep 20 15:06:53 or even hopefully Sep 20 17:21:03 hello, i meet a problem about using ipkg-cl. i modified the recipe for gtk(including pango & cairo).it is reported that dependency failed on libx11-6 when do_rootfs. i have checked the status file in rootfs, there is no words on libx11. Sep 20 17:21:20 please help Sep 20 18:37:12 hey all Sep 20 18:37:23 is there a cpufreq module available for the C1000? Sep 20 18:38:32 * xota saluda! Sep 20 18:38:35 hi Sep 20 18:38:37 DaedalusX: google pxa27x cpufreq Sep 20 18:45:35 pH5, is the 2.6 kernel cpufreq manager for the pxa270 broken then? Sep 20 18:46:20 or is it done on the voltage driver? Sep 20 18:46:28 DaedalusX: the driver never went into mainline. we have it applied in the hh.org cvs kernels, and it works for me (with some device specific quirks) Sep 20 18:46:48 the cpufreq driver works independently of the voltage driver, the voltage driver is just an 'add-on' Sep 20 18:47:22 alright Sep 20 18:47:35 I was mainly asking if there was a package, or if I'd have to build my own kernel Sep 20 18:47:50 I just got my zaurus the other day so I'm not entirely sure what that entails yet :P Sep 20 18:48:03 is it possible to switch a kernel without reflashing? Sep 20 18:48:15 with altboot? Sep 20 18:48:36 DaedalusX: I suppose, with kexec. But I don't have a zaurus so I wouldn't know. Sep 20 18:48:50 gotcha Sep 20 18:52:54 hmmm, time to figure out how to compile kernel modules for akita I guess :P Sep 20 19:32:03 hi Sep 20 22:00:30 hello@all Sep 20 22:07:37 ph5: I have now instlled active sync in this WinXP in the village. So i have acces to my device. Pocket word seemed not work while editing the default.conf, so this was my last option... Sep 20 22:08:52 ph5: Is this the default.txt correct? set KERNEL zImage Sep 20 22:09:24 ph5: sry there was a "the" to much.. Sep 20 22:45:02 ph5: its stopping hx4700 login: Sep 20 22:45:10 ph5: erorr Sep 20 22:46:01 ph5: errors are: ...empty flash... Sep 21 02:39:06 CoreDump|afk: could you please have a look at oebug 3007 (altboot not recognizeing SD cards for boot on zauri) I was told you are the person to ask about altboot Sep 21 02:40:03 I modified gtk+-directfb_2.10.14.bb and its related file about pango & cairo for directfb supporting. Sep 21 02:40:03 when do_rootfs is processing, the bb report that: Sep 21 02:40:28 ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gtk+-directfb: Sep 21 02:40:28 libx11-6 (>= 1.1.2) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 21 02:59:57 2007