**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 21 02:59:57 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 21 04:34:50 2007 Sep 21 07:14:25 hi Sep 21 08:53:36 hi there Sep 21 10:36:03 * koen lacks motivation to do anything today Sep 21 10:41:15 * ade|desk lacks today Sep 21 10:41:56 i keep thinking it's saturday and i am sat at work in a cold office Sep 21 11:41:04 hi all Sep 21 11:41:31 koen : i've found a wide security hole Sep 21 11:41:41 XorA: hi, i've found a wide security hole Sep 21 11:42:18 lock display is started when resuming , so during a short time, i still have access to "not again" locked session Sep 21 11:42:42 i can run a terminal, and do whatever i want, as removing the lockdisplay script Sep 21 11:43:00 one solution is to move lockdisplay script to /etc/apm/suspend.d directory Sep 21 11:43:29 as it, the lockdisplay is launched before suspend, and at resume, the session is already locked Sep 21 11:45:14 anyone listening ? Sep 21 11:46:40 koen|gprs: are you here ? Sep 21 11:52:45 anyone listening ? Sep 21 12:24:37 Is there any Smartphone able to launch Angstrom? Sep 21 12:29:35 theopulus: HTC Universal, Neo1973 Sep 21 12:29:54 Motorola A780 Sep 21 12:30:06 ph5: i am back again :) There are no alarming error messages i think. It stopes with: Sep 21 12:30:06 hx4700 login: Sep 21 12:30:21 i think i have installed the console image.... so now x there Sep 21 12:42:47 @all: how to access to a hx4700 with console-image via usb? Sep 21 12:42:47 Sep 21 14:38:49 him avahi-daemon[5111]: New relevant interface usb0.IPv4 for mDNS.Sep 21 14:38:49 him avahi-daemon[5111]: Registering new address record for 169.254.8.61 on usb0.IPv4.Sep 21 14:38:53 him avahi-autoipd(usb0)[7192]: Successfully claimed IP address 169.254.8.61Sep 21 14:38:53 him avahi-autoipd(usb0)[7192]: fopen() failed: Permission deniedSep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^IDHCP daemon state is now 9 (fail) for int Sep 21 12:42:47 r: ^IActivation (usb0) Stage 4 of 5 (IP Configure Timeout) scheduled... Sep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^IActivation (usb0) Stage 4 of 5 (IP Configure Timeout) started... Sep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^INo DHCP reply received. Automatically obtaining IP via Zeroconf. Sep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^Iavahi-autoipd running on usb0, assuming IPv4LL address Sep 21 14:38:53 him Ne Sep 21 12:42:51 ) Stage 5 of 5 (IP Configure Commit) scheduled... Sep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^IActivation (usb0) Stage 4 of 5 (IP Configure Timeout) complete. Sep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^IActivation (usb0) Stage 5 of 5 (IP Configure Commit) started... Sep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^Inot touching usb0 configuration, was configured externally Sep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^IActiv Sep 21 12:42:57 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^IActivation (usb0) Stage 5 of 5 (IP Configure Commit) complete. Sep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^IActivation (usb0) successful, device activated. Sep 21 14:38:53 him dhcdbd: Unrequested down ?:3Sep 21 14:38:53 him NetworkManager: ^IDHCP daemon state is now 14 (normal exit) for interface usb0 Sep 21 14:38:54 him kernel: [ 3754.588000] NETDEV WATCHDOG: usb0: transmit time Sep 21 12:43:03 t time server 91.189.94.145 offset 0.012012 secSep 21 14:39:04 him kernel: [ 3764.588000] NETDEV WATCHDOG: usb0: transmit timed out Sep 21 12:43:41 æ all sry for this huge text i wlll use a servise the next time Sep 21 12:46:57 thanks Sep 21 12:47:29 but HTC and A780 are discontinued, I'm afraid Sep 21 12:49:12 and Neo1973 is just a prototype Sep 21 13:13:06 @all: how can i access my device with console-image via usb. Is telnet,, ssh or minicom a possibility? i cant login in my hx4700 because this device has NO keyboard. Sep 21 13:32:33 lhaes: ssh and serial should work depending on machine setup for your particular machine Sep 21 13:32:39 lhaes: Im not a Ipaq guys Sep 21 13:33:15 XorA: i tried ssh root@169.254.8.61 Sep 21 13:33:50 XorA: but it says: ssh: connect to host 169.254.8.61 port 22: Connection refused Sep 21 13:34:07 so no ssh is running on the ipaq Sep 21 13:35:19 ifup usb0 ; ssh root@hx4700.local Sep 21 13:35:28 koen: he has no keyboard Sep 21 13:35:41 how does he irc? Sep 21 13:36:15 koen|gprs: i ahve no keybaord at my hx4700 Sep 21 13:36:16 ah, I thought you meant in Ipaq Sep 21 13:36:25 my Kubuntu 7.04 has one ;) Sep 21 13:36:54 getty should be running on serial port :-) Sep 21 13:37:48 * koen has this in /etc/network/interfaces: http://rafb.net/p/W6Ln9N22.txt Sep 21 13:37:59 koen|gprs: id did your command on my kubuntu: him@him:~$ sudo ifup usb0 ; ssh root@hx4700.local Password: Ignoring unknown interface usb0=usb0. ssh: hx4700.local: Name or service not known him@him:~$ Sep 21 13:38:37 you need to have usb plugged in of course Sep 21 13:39:43 koen|gprs: my device is plugged in Sep 21 13:41:09 http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15181/ Sep 21 13:42:44 lhaes: erk, turn off NetworkManager Sep 21 13:43:02 lhaes: its totally broken crap when it comes to more than one network interface Sep 21 13:43:26 XorA: How? Sep 21 13:43:41 lhaes: its just turned your Ipaq into your primary internet connection Sep 21 13:44:29 my normal fix for network manager is apt-get remove --purge networkmanager :-) Sep 21 13:45:04 hehe ;) Sep 21 13:45:32 do you use any "debian"-dist? Sep 21 13:47:40 XorA & koen: are you shure, that the ssh-server is runnung on the hx4700? Sep 21 13:48:25 lhaes: I use ubuntu Sep 21 13:49:58 the ip address of your ipaq should be 192.168.0.200 AFAIK Sep 21 13:51:27 him@him:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.200 -> nothing happens : no connection refused or sothing like this.. strange Sep 21 13:52:45 XorA; what shall i do with this http://rafb.net/p/W6Ln9N22.txt ? Sep 21 13:52:50 lhaes: yes, but usb0 on your desktop isnt setup right Sep 21 13:53:10 ok, then lets setup it right k? Sep 21 13:53:14 oh actually .200 is desktop address, .202 is ipaq address Sep 21 13:53:20 AFAIK Sep 21 13:53:33 would you like to have ssh acces on my computer? Sep 21 13:53:58 lhaes: Im not sure Im ready for that level of responsibility Sep 21 13:55:42 * XorA now knows where edonkey servers went :-( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/20/music_industry_shuts_down_edonkey/ Sep 21 13:57:31 "»oh actually .200 is desktop address, .202 is ipaq address" I think you can find the Ipaq adress here: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15182/ Sep 21 13:58:18 but what about this link? I use torrents ;) Sep 21 13:58:21 lhaes: that log means, DHCP failed, avahi then generated a random IP address for usb0 Sep 21 13:58:35 lhaes: on desktop do sudo ifconfig usb 192.168.0.200 up Sep 21 13:58:41 lhaes: then ping 192.168.0.202 Sep 21 13:58:46 k Sep 21 13:59:08 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection timed outhim@him:~$ sudo ifconfig usb 192.168.0.200 upSIOCSIFADDR: No such deviceusb: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: No such deviceusb: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: No such device Sep 21 13:59:20 or put http://rafb.net/p/W6Ln9N22.txt in /etc/network/interfaces Sep 21 13:59:47 avahi-browse -at should show the hx4700 if the link is setup right Sep 21 13:59:50 k Sep 21 14:02:14 ok? http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15183/ Sep 21 14:03:21 yes Sep 21 14:03:27 k Sep 21 14:04:31 now this? him@him:~$ sudo ifconfig usb 192.168.0.200 up Sep 21 14:05:30 lhaes: ifdown usb0; ifup usb0 Sep 21 14:06:20 him@him:~$ sudo ifdown usb0; sudo ifup usb0ifdown: interface usb0 not configuredRTNETLINK answers: File existsrun-parts: /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autoipd exited with return code 2him@him:~$ Sep 21 14:08:06 XorA: Which one? him@him:~$ sudo aptitude install avahi- avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon avahi-discover avahi-dnsconfd avahi-utils Sep 21 14:11:16 lhaes: I think Im begtinning to remeber why I removed all the smart stuff from my machine Sep 21 14:11:28 lhaes: it was these damn headaches with networking Sep 21 14:12:26 so i HAVE to remove the networkmanager? Sep 21 14:13:48 lhaes: no idea, it just pissed me off enough that I removed it Sep 21 14:14:55 which avahi packages do i have to install? Sep 21 14:15:34 lhaes: you dont need to install any, it should be all working by default on ubuntu/debian Sep 21 14:15:59 ok Sep 21 14:16:45 do you know any one lives near dresen/germany i can go to : Sep 21 14:17:01 quite a few germans around, post to email list Sep 21 14:17:03 sry dresden Sep 21 14:17:11 mhhh Sep 21 14:19:42 now no device is pingable... Sep 21 14:19:50 http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15185/ Sep 21 14:20:37 use network manager to re-select your normal network interface and it will probably recover Sep 21 14:21:04 shall i delete the things in "interfaces"? Sep 21 14:21:21 lhaes: they should not break stuff Sep 21 14:21:31 k Sep 21 14:30:56 what means the line "network 192.168.0.0" in http://rafb.net/p/W6Ln9N22.txt Sep 21 14:31:42 its the network address, ie what is left when network mask is anded with ip address Sep 21 14:41:48 no word about "network" here http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html .... Sep 21 14:41:49 I didnt understood your sentence above, therefore i tried it mysekf Sep 21 14:49:33 what package/script is responsible for saving alsa settings ? Sep 21 14:49:37 volumes, etc Sep 21 14:50:03 alsa-state.bb Sep 21 14:50:15 ah ok thanks Sep 21 14:53:40 XorA: I updated the iwmmxt mplayer in the feeds to the svn version Sep 21 14:54:04 koen: cool, it al least works for DivX Sep 21 14:55:39 I wish the ezx kernel had the pxa overlay patches Sep 21 14:55:51 koen: add them Sep 21 14:56:42 XorA: I can ping 192.168.0.200 now: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15187/ Sep 21 14:59:10 him@him:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.200ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused Sep 21 15:00:11 lhaes: .200 is localhost, try .202 Sep 21 15:00:50 XorA: him@him:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.202 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host him@him:~$ Sep 21 15:01:48 lhaes: pastebin your ifconfig Sep 21 15:02:26 k Sep 21 15:04:29 /sbin/ifconfig ? Sep 21 15:04:50 lhaes: yes Sep 21 15:07:52 can i mail you the file? Sep 21 15:08:22 lhaes: file? just run the command and paste the output Sep 21 15:08:53 sry Sep 21 15:09:49 in germany you would say: "Ich stand auf dem Schlauch" or " Ich seh den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht" sry sry sry Sep 21 15:10:24 http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15189/ Sep 21 15:12:02 that looks fine, if Ipaq is plugged in it should in theory be pingable Sep 21 15:12:19 | Cannot find package alsa-state. Sep 21 15:12:21 grmbl Sep 21 15:12:27 bitbake alsa-state works fine though Sep 21 15:15:04 XorA: is 192.168.0.200 the ipadress of usb0? Sep 21 15:15:30 lhaes: 192.168.0.200 is address of your Desktop/Laptop 192.168.0.202 is I beleive the default address of Ipaqs Sep 21 15:15:42 lhaes: run avahi-browse -at Sep 21 15:15:50 and pastbin that result Sep 21 15:16:19 XorA: I have to install run avahi before... Sep 21 15:16:44 lhaes: is it not already installed? Sep 21 15:16:53 no Sep 21 15:17:00 your previous pastebins had avahi running Sep 21 15:17:08 him@him:~$ avahi-browse -atThe program 'avahi-browse' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:sudo apt-get install avahi-utilsStellen Sie sicher, dass Sie das Paketdepot universe aktiviert haben.bash: avahi-browse: command not found Sep 21 15:18:20 XorA:Which one do i have to install? Sep 21 15:18:21 avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon avahi-discover avahi-dnsconfd avahi-utils Sep 21 15:19:24 avahi-utils Sep 21 15:20:05 k Sep 21 15:20:37 him@him:~$ avahi-browse -at+ usb0 IPv4 Remote Desktop of him VNC Remote Access local+ eth0 IPv4 Remote Desktop of him VNC Remote Access local+ usb0 IPv4 him [86:e8:73:03:df:95] Arbeitsplatzrechner local+ eth0 IPv4 him [00:18:f3:6f:48:4b] Arbeitsplatzrechner local Sep 21 15:21:21 XorA: ill change my console langauge in english... Sep 21 15:21:36 lhaes: no probs, I can read enough to understand that Sep 21 15:21:52 lhaes: looks like Ipaq is either not running avahi, or network isnt working Sep 21 15:22:17 try rebooting it with usb attached Sep 21 15:22:20 shall i restart the ipaq? Sep 21 15:22:39 lhaes: Im not an Ipaq man, zaurus is a whole lot more friendly to me Sep 21 15:22:55 koen|gprs: and how (link?) Sep 21 15:23:17 XorA: but koen is ;=) Sep 21 15:23:58 ahh Sep 21 15:24:06 i didnt. now what "attached" was Sep 21 15:24:15 ill restart it now Sep 21 15:24:34 I think Koen also understands .de speak :-) Sep 21 15:25:08 ein bisschen Sep 21 15:25:11 [a bit] Sep 21 15:25:36 dann lasst uns in dutsch unterhalten (lets talk in german ,,,) Sep 21 15:25:38 * mickeyl actually enjoys localized error messages *cough* Sep 21 15:26:28 i cant write "deutsch" correctly embarrassing Sep 21 15:26:41 its alright, I cant write english Sep 21 15:28:29 i am rebooting now Sep 21 15:29:15 what is this "empty flash" message about? This progress takes along time.... Sep 21 15:36:27 koen & XorA: this is my syslog while booting the hx4700 + plugging of and on the ppc-station: Sep 21 15:36:27 http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15191/ Sep 21 15:38:19 lhaes: that looks ok, but Im not too familiar with those avahi messages, but it doesnt seem to have tried DHCP this time which is good Sep 21 15:39:15 what is koen thinking about. He owns a hx4700 i think. Sep 21 15:39:39 koen? Sep 21 15:40:16 lhaes: I think koen|gprs is currently at work with only his N800 to IRC from Sep 21 15:40:54 n800 is a neo isnt it? Sep 21 15:41:06 no nokia Sep 21 15:41:19 ahh ok Sep 21 15:41:42 my ifconfig looks a bit strange now: Sep 21 15:41:49 paste it again Sep 21 15:42:11 http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15192/ Sep 21 15:42:40 lhaes: oh, it didnt do ip4v address, type ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 up Sep 21 15:43:02 lhaes: then try ping/ssh to .202 again Sep 21 15:43:12 ok Sep 21 15:43:43 200 is working 202 not... Sep 21 15:44:07 him@him:~$ ping 192.168.0.202PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data.From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable Sep 21 15:44:17 maybe 202 is wrong? Sep 21 15:44:41 ping -b 192.168.0.255 Sep 21 15:44:49 thats a broadcast ping Sep 21 15:44:59 anything on that network should answer Sep 21 15:45:33 but youve expended my ability to help, I have to now go find a train Sep 21 15:46:18 thanks Sep 21 15:46:25 good luck Sep 21 15:46:49 maybe i try it later again.. Sep 21 15:47:00 him@him:~$ ping -b 192.168.0.255PING 192.168.0.255 (192.168.0.255) 56(84) bytes of data.--> nothing happens Sep 21 15:47:17 good luck by finding a train Sep 21 15:47:23 hi there Sep 21 16:54:26 hi folks! Sep 21 16:56:25 there are bad MD5sums in the repository - can anyone fix this? Sep 21 16:57:10 the error messages themselves are at http://pastebin.com/m7afbad69 Sep 21 16:58:37 sybren: you forgot to 'ipkg update' Sep 21 16:58:43 no I didn't forget that Sep 21 16:58:55 to check, I did that a mere few seconds before trying "ipkg upgrade" Sep 21 17:05:02 koen: did it again, just to check - still md5sum mismatches Sep 21 17:07:52 md5 sum mismatches mean your local list doesn't match the upstream one Sep 21 17:08:13 I thought it meant that the MD5sum in the package list doesn't match the MD5sum of the package itself... Sep 21 17:08:44 koen: what do you suggest, except "ipkg update"? Sep 21 17:09:30 ipkg update Sep 21 17:10:37 koen: the repository server doesn't properly manage proxy servers. I turned off my transparent proxy server, and now I do get the correct packages Sep 21 17:11:00 so the repository server might need to add some proxy control HTTP headers, for instance a maximum cache period. Sep 21 17:43:13 koen: a reaction would be nice Sep 21 17:48:15 sybren, sometimes silence means we are either working on the problem, or we do not know anything about what you are syaing Sep 21 17:48:28 I run some website and what you say is greek to me :) Sep 21 17:48:46 wew, stelios is not in this channel :) Sep 21 17:54:11 Crofton: I'd be happy to explain myself, if only someone would say they didn't understand Sep 21 17:54:17 so being silent doesn't help at all then Sep 21 17:55:39 anyway, you can add HTTP headers to the HTTP responses your webserver gives Sep 21 17:55:54 those headers can influence the behaviour of proxy servers that cache those responses Sep 21 17:56:14 so with those headers you can tell a proxy server that the package list should only be cached for a few hours, for example Sep 21 18:08:34 koen, do you know if the latest unstable image for h5000 has g_ether built into the kernel? (I am having trouble usbnet and trying to debug) Sep 21 18:59:19 Powerbook-2:~/Projects/OpenEmbedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux koen$ grep USB_ETH ./linux-handhelds-2.6/h5000/defconfig Sep 21 18:59:19 CONFIG_USB_ETH=y Sep 21 18:59:20 CONFIG_USB_ETH_RNDIS=y Sep 21 19:11:24 koen, thanks Sep 21 21:39:41 anybody here using LyX on their Zaurus? Sep 21 21:46:17 not recently Sep 21 21:46:24 a couple of years ago i did Sep 21 21:46:35 that doesn't help much :P Sep 21 21:46:42 right. :) Sep 21 21:47:07 trying to get it to work on my zaurus but it's complaining about "unable to find textclass file ` Sep 21 21:47:09 '" Sep 21 21:48:39 | /usr/share/lyx/textclass.lst present? Sep 21 21:48:47 | /usr/share/lyx/layouts/* present? Sep 21 21:48:59 you can use strace to find out what it's actually looking for Sep 21 21:51:44 the layouts folder is there, but the textclass.lst file isn't Sep 21 21:52:14 also, it's installed onto my SD card, and I haven't figured out yet how to get the zaurus to consider that in its path yet Sep 21 21:55:23 ipkg-link Sep 21 21:55:27 well, not necessarily Sep 21 21:55:30 au-fs might help Sep 21 21:55:33 or manually linking Sep 21 21:55:38 and lyx -> reconfigure Sep 21 21:55:41 and then restarting Sep 21 21:55:53 except it won't load lyx Sep 21 21:55:56 it just stops. Sep 22 00:13:48 how would I go about compiling a new kernel for angstrom? Sep 22 00:14:01 do I use the openembedded package? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 22 02:59:56 2007