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Oct 14 06:21:21 <Qantourisc> btw how comes the angstrom kernel loads so fast ?
Oct 14 06:21:29 <Qantourisc> on my laptop it takes 10 times as long !!!
Oct 14 07:17:32 <NAbyss_> Qantourisc: The kernel is typically fast to load regardless of distro.. it's all the services that take a while.
Oct 14 07:35:04 <Qantourisc> NAbyss_: my kernel takes (on my laptop) around 10 secs to load
Oct 14 07:35:09 <Qantourisc> main time goes to "scrolling"
Oct 14 07:35:26 <Qantourisc> displaying all the devices it found / looking for them
Oct 14 07:35:31 <Qantourisc> other then that
Oct 14 07:35:40 <Qantourisc> how do i run dhcpcd on this distro ?
Oct 14 07:37:44 <NAbyss_> Qantourisc: iirc, it installs udhcpc by default; try /usr/sbin/udhcp<tab>
Oct 14 07:38:34 <Qantourisc> NAbyss_: aa thanks
Oct 14 07:39:52 <Qantourisc> and my bridge isn't working :(
Oct 14 07:44:51 * Qantourisc ponders
Oct 14 07:45:50 <Qantourisc> hmmmm
Oct 14 07:46:00 <Qantourisc> the nic isn't getting all pacakges
Oct 14 07:54:34 <Qantourisc> this ain't working like this
Oct 14 08:05:24 <Qantourisc> whoot :)
Oct 14 08:05:28 <Qantourisc> itnenet
Oct 14 08:12:44 <Qantourisc> o dear
Oct 14 08:12:49 <Qantourisc> itt froze ?
Oct 14 08:13:48 <Qantourisc> its alive again
Oct 14 09:19:22 <mimecar> hi
Oct 14 09:33:06 <dcordes> hi mimecar 
Oct 14 09:33:40 <mimecar> hey dcordes, is you alcohol level lower :P ?
Oct 14 09:34:04 <dcordes> yes but I'm still a bit dizzy ~_~
Oct 14 09:34:11 <mimecar> xDD
Oct 14 09:34:23 <mimecar> I recompiled again all the stuff with angstrom
Oct 14 09:34:39 <mimecar> and I get the same error with libpgp,
Oct 14 09:35:04 <dcordes> As I told you it is a problem with the source or recipe and not yout setup
Oct 14 09:35:17 <mimecar> yes
Oct 14 09:35:34 <dcordes> Because I also had problems with the same recipe about two weeks ago
Oct 14 09:35:34 <mimecar> i'm compiling some things before and I'll test again
Oct 14 09:35:49 <mimecar> then, i should check bb file?
Oct 14 09:36:25 <dcordes> no
Oct 14 09:36:38 <dcordes> did you try bitbake -c recompile libgpg-error?
Oct 14 09:36:50 <mimecar> that command, don't
Oct 14 09:36:54 <dcordes> s/recompile/rebuild
Oct 14 09:38:07 <mimecar> ok
Oct 14 09:38:50 <dcordes> NOTE: build 200710141138: completed
Oct 14 09:38:56 <dcordes> hmm still building for me
Oct 14 09:39:07 <dcordes> probably it's only on some machines
Oct 14 09:39:11 <dcordes> distros
Oct 14 09:39:57 <mimecar> mine is angstrom
Oct 14 09:40:03 <mimecar> zaurus c1000
Oct 14 09:43:32 <dcordes> wait I will build for akita and see if it makes any difference
Oct 14 09:44:37 <mimecar> if you don't break your OE system...
Oct 14 09:47:24 <dcordes> mimecar: NOTE: build 200710141143: completed
Oct 14 09:47:31 <dcordes> ah no why should it brake anything
Oct 14 09:48:17 <dcordes> mimecar: maybe describe the problem in #oe mentioning that it builds for other people
Oct 14 09:48:19 <mimecar> I don't want you lost your system if you have some problem with akita compilation
Oct 14 09:48:30 <dcordes> nono no problems at all..
Oct 14 09:49:03 <mimecar> ok
Oct 14 09:49:06 <dcordes> so conclusion: libgpg-error_1.4-r1 is building fine for distro angstrom-2007.1 with machine h1940 and akita
Oct 14 09:49:16 <dcordes> with up to date metadata
Oct 14 09:49:20 <mimecar> I'll ask on oe later (I've some pending work)
Oct 14 09:49:28 <dcordes> mimecar: you sure you did an "mtn pull && mtn update" ?
Oct 14 09:49:30 <mimecar> ok, thanks for the check dcordes
Oct 14 09:49:35 <dcordes> no problem
Oct 14 09:49:46 <mimecar> I think so
Oct 14 09:51:29 <mimecar> i fixed error with mtn update
Oct 14 09:51:40 <mimecar> i should runned it as root
Oct 14 09:51:58 <mimecar> it was a permision problem with root folder
Oct 14 10:40:40 <Qantourisc> strange
Oct 14 10:40:51 <Qantourisc> is it possible for a bridge on a linux pc to "die" ?
Oct 14 10:45:20 <Qantourisc> rats it work for a brief period
Oct 14 10:45:27 <Qantourisc> now the bridge is dead again :(
Oct 14 11:21:51 <Qantourisc> arg my laptop isn't relaiable to brideg e:(
Oct 14 11:40:04 <Qantourisc> the pacakg mangere fails to update the list ...
Oct 14 11:40:21 * Qantourisc looks for a way to manually download it
Oct 14 11:43:40 <dcordes> Qantourisc: you think it's your connection or do you suspect the feeds to be down?
Oct 14 11:52:22 <Qantourisc> hmmmm
Oct 14 11:52:28 <Qantourisc> namre resolv error he says
Oct 14 11:52:43 <Qantourisc> "www.angstrom-distribution.org": Host name lookup failure
Oct 14 11:52:45 <Qantourisc> me debugs
Oct 14 11:53:38 <Qantourisc> google works
Oct 14 11:53:47 <Qantourisc> dns works on my pc
Oct 14 11:53:56 <Qantourisc> but not on the pocket pc
Oct 14 11:54:08 * Qantourisc adds it to his resolv.conf as a quiqck hack
Oct 14 11:55:00 <Qantourisc>  imean hostname
Oct 14 11:55:25 <Qantourisc> arg what file was it :(
Oct 14 11:55:48 <Qantourisc> a hosts
Oct 14 12:31:03 * Qantourisc is not convinced about the distro angstrom
Oct 14 12:42:15 <Qantourisc> the lack of certain packages ... is it due to the fac tthat the code doesn't compile ? or lack of buildsS?
Oct 14 12:44:03 <Qantourisc> (im not trieng to offend in any way)
Oct 14 13:37:28 <tripolo> hi
Oct 14 13:51:12 <mimecar> hi
Oct 14 13:55:50 <vanguard> Hi all ! Is someone using "linphone" (either C-1000 or C-3XXX) ? 
Oct 14 13:56:10 <mimecar> I don't
Oct 14 13:56:45 <vanguard> Hi mimecar . I just want to know, if it is running at all.
Oct 14 13:57:37 <mimecar> if linphone is on the feed?
Oct 14 13:57:44 <vanguard> Yes, it is.
Oct 14 13:57:57 <vanguard> But it seems, the package is buggy.
Oct 14 13:58:18 <vanguard> So, I just want to know, if ALL packages are buggy or only mine.
Oct 14 13:58:47 <mimecar> what's the error you get?
Oct 14 13:59:16 <vanguard> There no error at all. IMO there is the binary missing.
Oct 14 13:59:31 <vanguard> ---> /usr/bin/linphone
Oct 14 14:00:39 <vanguard> I had this problem some time ago, but during this time, there was a package existing "linphone_hh.ipk", which was for IPAQ-PDAs.
Oct 14 14:01:18 <vanguard> This package was running on Zaurii, too. And in this package there was a bianry existing.
Oct 14 14:01:37 <vanguard> But the *-hh.ipk is no more existing in the feed.
Oct 14 14:01:52 <vanguard> So, my question: Is it running at all ?
Oct 14 14:02:05 <mimecar> i can't get answer you
Oct 14 14:02:38 <vanguard> No problem, maybe someone other can confirm or deny this.
Oct 14 14:03:09 <vanguard> Do you know a way, to look into packages, without installing them ?
Oct 14 14:04:31 <mimecar> do you want search a file?
Oct 14 14:05:20 <vanguard> No, I want to look into a package. Similar like look into Debian-packages using midhnigt-commander.
Oct 14 14:06:08 <vanguard> Maybe if I rename it to *.tar or *.tgz..... ???
Oct 14 14:07:21 <mimecar> ups, no idea
Oct 14 14:07:30 <vanguard> *.ipkg is packed with tar. when I remember correctly. Someone told about it. But this was a long time ago.
Oct 14 14:07:37 <vanguard> I forgot....
Oct 14 14:07:47 <mimecar> have you build angstrom image yourself ?
Oct 14 14:08:04 <vanguard> No, I am using the feed of angstrom.
Oct 14 14:08:12 <vanguard> From the site......
Oct 14 14:09:48 <mimecar> ok
Oct 14 14:10:06 <vanguard> Anyway, I will test a little bit. Thanks for your help anyway ! :)
Oct 14 14:10:44 <mimecar> :)
Oct 14 14:10:52 <vanguard> Till later !
Oct 14 15:38:54 <Qantourisc> does angstrom use a special kernel ? or a fairly standard linux kernel ?
Oct 14 15:39:47 <mimecar> a standard with some patches
Oct 14 15:42:01 * Qantourisc ... is checking other distros, since the application i wish to run aren't there anyway
Oct 14 15:43:18 <Qantourisc> hows X ?
Oct 14 15:43:26 <mimecar> ??
Oct 14 15:43:45 <Qantourisc> X11 ?
Oct 14 15:43:50 <Qantourisc> no X11 ?
Oct 14 15:45:14 <mimecar> yes, there's X on angstrom
Oct 14 15:48:05 <Qantourisc> a ok ... so how stupid / wise would it be to use another distro (one you can easily addapt enough to fit on the device) ?
Oct 14 15:48:50 <mimecar> what's the other distro ?
Oct 14 15:57:19 <hrw> Gentoo? 
Oct 14 15:57:44 <Qantourisc> hrw: it's both ideal and both a bad distro for it imo
Oct 14 15:57:52 <Qantourisc> it's very adaptible
Oct 14 15:58:13 <Qantourisc> yet it has a huge slow bad init script dragging behind it
Oct 14 15:58:21 <Qantourisc> euuu rewrite
Oct 14 15:58:31 <Qantourisc> yet it has a slow buge portage flat file db
Oct 14 15:58:38 <Qantourisc> and imo slow init scripts
Oct 14 15:58:52 <Qantourisc> that are a semihell to configure
Oct 14 15:59:04 <Qantourisc> the advantage of angstrom is out of the box ...
Oct 14 15:59:12 <hrw> shit.. I did not wanted to provocate distro war..
Oct 14 15:59:15 <Qantourisc> but there isn't mutch in the standard box i'd like to use ...
Oct 14 15:59:26 <Qantourisc> hrw: i'm a gentoo user :)
Oct 14 15:59:35 <Qantourisc> hrw: so i'm basicly waring myself :)
Oct 14 15:59:49 <hrw> and you use -OMG switch during builds?
Oct 14 16:00:10 <Qantourisc> for my pc ?
Oct 14 16:00:28 <Qantourisc> hrw: atm i'm using -0s :)
Oct 14 16:00:52 <Qantourisc> and -march=athlon64 -mtune=athlon64
Oct 14 16:00:58 <Qantourisc> doesn't gain mutch speed anyway
Oct 14 16:01:07 <Qantourisc> and memory hog in my case is my main slowdown :)
Oct 14 16:01:16 <Qantourisc> so -Os gives me more speed then -OMG ever can :)
Oct 14 16:01:37 <Qantourisc> besides, 95% of the program don't run anything notislby faster
Oct 14 16:01:45 <hrw> ok ok - lets get back to subject..
Oct 14 16:01:49 <hrw> 14 17:49 < mimecar> what's the other distro ?
Oct 14 16:01:51 <Qantourisc> only a few application need -OMG: for example your raytracer :)
Oct 14 16:01:53 <Qantourisc> gentoo
Oct 14 16:02:09 <Qantourisc> ofcours i'll only be placing a substract onto the disk
Oct 14 16:02:14 <Qantourisc> / mount it over network
Oct 14 16:02:21 <mimecar> Qantourisc: what's the advantadge of porting gentoo to angstrom ?
Oct 14 16:02:33 <Qantourisc> porting gentoo to angstrom ?
Oct 14 16:02:34 <mimecar> or to a mobile device
Oct 14 16:02:38 <Qantourisc> a ok :)
Oct 14 16:02:40 <mimecar> second line
Oct 14 16:02:57 <Qantourisc> euu as i gather more applications ... (even if they are not suited for pda)
Oct 14 16:03:12 <Qantourisc> if not then gentoo is no more intresting then angstrom
Oct 14 16:03:42 <mimecar> Qantourisc: a graphical app is not suitable for a pda is not usable
Oct 14 16:03:52 <mimecar> you can run it, but if your app is bigger than screen...
Oct 14 16:04:08 <Qantourisc> mimecar: yea ... there is on specif app i'll need to redisn the UI :)
Oct 14 16:04:13 <hrw> mimecar: but having Blender on sl-5500 is worth it!
Oct 14 16:04:17 <Qantourisc> witch i'd really wish to runon it ...
Oct 14 16:04:29 <Qantourisc> (korgnanizer)
Oct 14 16:04:38 <Qantourisc> or another good tool that reads plain ics files
Oct 14 16:04:42 <Qantourisc> (including from the internet)
Oct 14 16:04:44 <mimecar> Qantourisc: korganizer runs
Oct 14 16:04:46 <Qantourisc> with cache on hdd
Oct 14 16:04:46 <hrw> Qantourisc: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371
Oct 14 16:04:58 <mimecar> it's name is Kopi
Oct 14 16:05:03 <Qantourisc> ow 
Oct 14 16:05:06 <hrw> Qantourisc: Dates can handle ICS from net
Oct 14 16:05:07 <Qantourisc> no wonder i couldn't find it ...
Oct 14 16:05:16 * Qantourisc installs kopi :)-
Oct 14 16:05:18 <mimecar> www.pi-sync.net
Oct 14 16:05:26 <mimecar> you can run it on Opie
Oct 14 16:05:33 <mimecar> not on gpe
Oct 14 16:05:45 <Qantourisc> mimecar: how will i ... find the obscure names ?
Oct 14 16:06:04 <mimecar> opie and gpe ?
Oct 14 16:06:13 <Qantourisc> kpoi
Oct 14 16:06:16 <Qantourisc> kopi
Oct 14 16:06:28 <mimecar> i don't understand you
Oct 14 16:06:35 <Qantourisc> "(18:04:19) mimecar: it's name is Kopi"
Oct 14 16:07:04 <Qantourisc> not in the pacakge db ?
Oct 14 16:07:11 <mimecar> yes it's
Oct 14 16:07:19 <mimecar> but you won't find it on angstrom
Oct 14 16:07:26 <mimecar> only on openzaurus and related
Oct 14 16:07:38 <Qantourisc> ow ...
Oct 14 16:07:46 <Qantourisc> mimecar: why is that?
Oct 14 16:07:55 <mimecar> opie use QT and angstrom (actually) GTK
Oct 14 16:08:09 <mimecar> there's a project to port opie (QT)
Oct 14 16:08:09 <Qantourisc> then just cram QT on it ?
Oct 14 16:08:14 <mimecar> but i don't know the state
Oct 14 16:08:21 <Qantourisc> i don't see the part "port"
Oct 14 16:08:32 <Qantourisc> isn't it just putting it in the portage
Oct 14 16:08:34 <Qantourisc> making sure it run
Oct 14 16:08:35 <Qantourisc> and done ?
Oct 14 16:08:47 <mimecar> make a new version for angstrom
Oct 14 16:08:48 <mimecar> more or less
Oct 14 16:09:20 <Qantourisc> don't see why it won't run .. i mean ... install QT libs, add a tool to configure the looks if you want and run kopi ?
Oct 14 16:10:22 <mimecar> I haven't try that steps
Oct 14 16:10:30 <mimecar> you would have many dependences
Oct 14 16:10:41 <Qantourisc> kde is bad on deps
Oct 14 16:10:45 <Qantourisc> qt should be barebly ...
Oct 14 16:10:48 <Qantourisc> wait ...
Oct 14 16:10:53 <Qantourisc> angstrom doesn't do dep checks ?
Oct 14 16:11:28 <mimecar> yes
Oct 14 16:11:44 <mimecar> but you must install all the qt packages and it's dependences
Oct 14 16:11:56 <mimecar> is not "I install 2 or 4 packages" and works
Oct 14 16:12:47 <Qantourisc> in my distro i do "intall kpo"
Oct 14 16:12:52 <Qantourisc> and deps it needs
Oct 14 16:12:56 <Qantourisc> it installs for me
Oct 14 16:13:07 <Qantourisc> that is what i mean with dep checking
Oct 14 16:13:19 <hrw> angstrom packages have dependency informations
Oct 14 16:13:41 <mimecar> if you would have qt libraries compiled into angstrom, it would work
Oct 14 16:13:52 <hrw> and it is like 'ipkg install this-package-with-lot-of-deps-in-it'
Oct 14 16:14:19 <mimecar> hrw: can ipkg know space spend on installation ?
Oct 14 16:14:33 <mimecar> ie, your package will be 12 MB
Oct 14 16:15:36 <Qantourisc> hrw: i hope each pacakge doesn't take a seperate piece of space ?
Oct 14 16:15:45 <Qantourisc> that would ofcours be dead silly :)
Oct 14 16:17:32 <hrw> mimecar: ipkg does not check it ;(
Oct 14 16:19:03 <mimecar> debian installer checks it, how can do it ?
Oct 14 16:20:08 <hrw> ipkg could be extended to do it but no one wants to touch its code
Oct 14 16:20:14 * hrw -> cleaning
Oct 14 16:22:35 <mimecar> you can store "disk space" as an atributte
Oct 14 16:22:54 <mimecar> such as dependences ob packake catalog
Oct 14 16:27:00 <koen> how would you calculate it?
Oct 14 16:27:13 <koen> since most filesystems built with OE have compression
Oct 14 16:28:44 <mimecar> if you would be able to install it on /dev/null and measure space..
Oct 14 16:28:50 <mimecar> but that's not posible
Oct 14 16:29:18 <Qantourisc> yes about the compression ...
Oct 14 16:29:26 <Qantourisc> iirc bins compressed ... barely ...
Oct 14 16:30:31 <mimecar> koen or checking apt code
Oct 14 16:30:49 <koen> apt doesn't handle compression
Oct 14 16:31:12 <mimecar> not, but it tells you how many space it will use
Oct 14 16:31:32 <koen> no, it doesn't, since it doesn't handle compressed filesystems
Oct 14 16:31:41 <Qantourisc> wow i'm impressed
Oct 14 16:31:43 <Qantourisc> bins DO zip :)
Oct 14 16:31:58 <mimecar> i get that information when i install
Oct 14 16:32:00 <koen> Qantourisc: on jffs2 you save approx 50%
Oct 14 16:32:05 <mimecar> wait
Oct 14 16:32:12 <Qantourisc> koen in my personal case i have 6B ...
Oct 14 16:32:17 <koen> mimecar: and on compressed filesystems, that info would be *wrong*
Oct 14 16:32:24 <Qantourisc> so i don't have a problem there :)
Oct 14 16:32:29 <mimecar> ok ok
Oct 14 16:32:38 <Qantourisc> so i'd prefer the fastest method :)
Oct 14 16:32:49 <Qantourisc> (depends on CPU speed and hdd speed)
Oct 14 16:32:51 <mimecar> pray :P ?
Oct 14 16:32:58 <koen> if I package up a 1GB text file filled with zeros apt will say "takes 1GB", while it would take only a few MB
Oct 14 16:33:25 <Qantourisc> how about just using the size of the ipk ?
Oct 14 16:33:32 <Qantourisc> and adding a certain % to it
Oct 14 16:33:39 <Qantourisc> and warn if it could get "close" ?
Oct 14 16:33:46 <koen> different compression algos...
Oct 14 16:33:55 <Qantourisc> i see :)
Oct 14 16:34:00 <Qantourisc> still :)
Oct 14 16:34:08 <Qantourisc> the range is between 20% and 40% ...
Oct 14 16:34:16 <Qantourisc> should give an indication
Oct 14 16:34:24 <mimecar> and measure it over qemu ?
Oct 14 16:34:33 <mimecar> install a package and measure it
Oct 14 16:34:40 <mimecar> uninstall and test a new package...
Oct 14 16:34:54 <mimecar> you'll get a table with sizes compressed
Oct 14 16:35:19 <koen> you're assuming every package compresses at the same rate
Oct 14 16:35:23 <koen> which it doesn't
Oct 14 16:35:32 <koen> see 1GB text file example above
Oct 14 16:35:40 <mimecar> if qemu runs over a jj2fs,,,ç
Oct 14 16:35:46 <mimecar> it will be compressed
Oct 14 16:37:05 <Qantourisc> stop
Oct 14 16:37:14 <Qantourisc> who says the user will be using jj2fs ?
Oct 14 16:39:33 <mimecar> ok
Oct 14 19:04:25 <dcordes> mimecar: hey what's up with lipgpg-error?
Oct 14 19:04:27 <dcordes> built?
Oct 14 19:04:53 <mimecar> i got an error with cc
Oct 14 19:04:56 <mimecar> command not found
Oct 14 19:05:17 <mimecar> i created a bash variable => cc / U..../gcc
Oct 14 19:05:22 <mimecar> and it's recompiling now
Oct 14 19:06:37 <dcordes> do yourself a favour and build native
Oct 14 19:07:15 <mimecar> then, I won'be able to compile on weeks
Oct 14 19:07:27 <mimecar> I must work with windows program
Oct 14 19:07:33 <dcordes> why?
Oct 14 19:07:35 <dcordes> for work?
Oct 14 19:08:01 <mimecar> study
Oct 14 19:09:45 <mimecar> and 5 - 10 minutes of compiling at day is a problem...
Oct 14 19:09:58 <mimecar> I would get a final version after some months
Oct 14 19:11:18 <dcordes> mimecar: what kind of programs do you need windows for for your studies?
Oct 14 19:11:24 <dcordes> I'm just curious :D
Oct 14 19:13:06 <mimecar> solidworks 2007
Oct 14 19:14:13 <mimecar> I'm going crazy with this problems (study) :(
Oct 14 19:19:55 <mimecar> dcordes: I have not more options
Oct 14 19:21:00 <dcordes> mimecar: ah I see - cad
Oct 14 19:21:05 <dcordes> are you student of industrial design stuff?
Oct 14 19:21:24 <mimecar> yes
Oct 14 20:46:09 <tripolo> hi
Oct 14 21:16:15 <mimecar> where can I find the cc command ?
Oct 14 21:51:45 <hrw|tv> mimecar: you mean gcc?
Oct 14 21:52:05 <mimecar> I solved the problem
Oct 14 21:52:28 <mimecar> one package want use cc instead gcc
Oct 14 21:52:55 <mimecar> i copy gcc to cc and worked
Oct 14 21:57:35 <mimecar> hrw|tv: what's this means "prefered version 2.5 of glibc not available (for....)"
Oct 14 22:12:56 <hrw|tv> mimecar: ignore that
Oct 14 22:13:10 <mimecar> ok
Oct 14 22:16:10 <hrw|tv> bye
Oct 15 00:02:10 * STrRedWolf blehs... 
Oct 15 00:03:04 <STrRedWolf> Okay, apparently the Akita's not going to be supported for a while.  What Spitz should I use if I want to play video w/Mplayer?
Oct 15 00:03:51 <summatusmentis_> ~akita
Oct 15 00:04:12 <summatusmentis> STrRedWolf: which one is akida?
Oct 15 00:04:13 <STrRedWolf> Yeah, I know that.
Oct 15 00:04:17 <STrRedWolf> The C1000.
Oct 15 00:04:31 <STrRedWolf> The Spitz's are C3X00's
Oct 15 00:04:55 <summatusmentis> oh, ok. right, the 3x00's all use the same thing. As for playing video, I think they all work?
Oct 15 00:06:26 <STrRedWolf> Didn't one had accelerated video?
Oct 15 00:15:18 <summatusmentis> afaik, they all do. It's the iwmmxt extension for mplayer. I know for a fact my 3200 does, I don't know about the others
Oct 15 00:15:46 <STrRedWolf> I hear the Akita doesn't, or it just crashes.
Oct 15 00:34:16 <summatusmentis> I'm fairly certain Akita either does, and lacks the memory to handle it, or doesn't have iwmmxt
Oct 15 00:44:31 <STrRedWolf> No iwmmxt.
Oct 15 00:45:15 <summatusmentis> IIRC, the 3x00s all have iwmmxt
Oct 15 00:46:20 <STrRedWolf> Now it's a matter of "Do I look for a 3000, a 3100, or a 3200..."
Oct 15 00:47:38 <summatusmentis> it'll be easiest to find a 3200, I think
Oct 15 00:48:06 <summatusmentis> 3100's were able to be overclocked, so they were snatched up. 3000's I believe weren't the greatest machine, but were ok
Oct 15 00:48:19 <summatusmentis> I'll vouch for the 3200 being a great machine
Oct 15 00:49:00 <STrRedWolf> So the 3200's then.
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