**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 25 02:59:57 2007
Oct 25 05:53:06 <simoncpu> stealth: try rebooting your ipaq
Oct 25 05:57:49 <stealth> simoncpu, i did
Oct 25 05:58:55 <stealth> oh here we go.. finally an error message
Oct 25 06:00:12 <stealth> http://rafb.net/p/H992Za68.html
Oct 25 06:01:30 <stealth> I am unable to type at the boot> promt in minicom.. ?
Oct 25 06:02:17 <simoncpu> sorryd dude... can't help you much
Oct 25 06:02:25 <simoncpu> i'm using h5000
Oct 25 06:02:32 <simoncpu> and i'm having some trouble with it myself :(
Oct 25 06:04:27 <stealth> I dont get why after flashing angstrom i cant type in minicom.. wth
Oct 25 06:04:34 <stealth> how can i load root 
Oct 25 06:06:28 <stealth> seems minicom had hw flow control on
Oct 25 06:15:59 <stealth> oh... one day...
Oct 25 07:12:43 <stealth> how do I fix  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0)
Oct 25 07:34:19 <zap> Anybody knows how Nokia 7xx supports flash 9? Gnash suppors only flash 7, and Adobe still haven't released flash for x86_64 not speaking of ARMs
Oct 25 07:34:57 <koen> nokia used an adobe binary in the past AFAIK
Oct 25 07:37:31 <zap> so Adobe actually ported flash player to other archs???
Oct 25 07:38:07 <zap> Because until now they haven't released flash for x86_64 afaik, I thought they have porting problems
Oct 25 07:42:13 <XorA> s/problems/laziness.
Oct 25 07:42:17 <XorA>  /
Oct 25 08:51:12 <hrw> and adobe told that code is 64bit not-ready
Oct 25 09:11:36 <koen> XorA: could you poke the psx4all dude again?
Oct 25 09:12:53 <XorA> koen: heavy dev work currently on going to GPL all the code
Oct 25 09:13:20 <koen> he's saying "I'm not quite sure if there's other distros I should compile this for atm. pdaXrom beta 3 is still what I use."
Oct 25 09:14:52 <XorA> gimme a link
Oct 25 09:17:54 <koen> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=24310&view=getlastpost
Oct 25 09:22:53 <XorA> koen: answered
Oct 25 09:33:06 <koen> thanks
Oct 25 09:34:56 <koen> XorA: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/toolchain/
Oct 25 09:38:25 <simoncpu> errrr..
Oct 25 09:38:35 <simoncpu> do you guys know that status on WPA on iPAQ H5550?
Oct 25 12:13:47 <XorA> this is scary, I have 4 handhelds that can reasonably emulate a PSX
Oct 25 12:20:16 <koen> cluster!
Oct 25 12:26:35 <hrw> 2xneo + c7x0 + tosa would be nice cluster
Oct 25 12:26:59 <hrw> tosa as main one + neos/c7x0 as usb slaves
Oct 25 12:29:45 <koen> heh, the oesf morons are now complaining about debian not switching to headphones when inserting headphones
Oct 25 12:30:20 <koen> that whole debian thread can be summed up as "use angstrom kernel and userspace, but start with debian rootfs"
Oct 25 12:32:50 <koen> NOTE: package gimp-2.4.0: completed
Oct 25 12:33:16 <hrw> so they need zaurusd...
Oct 25 12:35:26 <koen> I said "You're, again, missing userspace stuff from angstrom. Recurring theme, isn't it?"
Oct 25 12:35:40 <koen> now they are all pissed off
Oct 25 12:35:55 * koen chuckles
Oct 25 12:37:47 <hrw> url?
Oct 25 12:39:50 <koen> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=24887&view=getlastpost
Oct 25 12:40:25 <koen> googling for 'zaurus headphone speaker' gives a hit to the OHM mail where RP explains everything and mentions zaurusd a lot
Oct 25 12:45:59 <hrw> ;)
Oct 25 13:17:27 <vanguard> I am only here, to say a great THANK YOU for the new akita maintainer ! (If he is here)
Oct 25 13:18:52 <hrw> we have akita maintainer?
Oct 25 13:19:42 <vanguard> Yes, there was a blog on the angstrom site.
Oct 25 13:21:29 <hrw> cool
Oct 25 13:21:50 <vanguard> But at the moment I cannot reach the site somehow....
Oct 25 13:22:02 <vanguard> It is Tim Somename
Oct 25 13:22:08 <XorA> Tim Chick
Oct 25 13:22:13 <vanguard> Yes !
Oct 25 13:22:17 <vanguard> Hi XorA 
Oct 25 13:22:17 <hrw> its normal - we have problems with load on server
Oct 25 13:22:18 <XorA> guy who does pxa mplayer stuff
Oct 25 13:22:23 <hrw> XorA: great
Oct 25 13:22:35 <vanguard> Yeah, great !
Oct 25 13:23:38 <vanguard> It is a pity, if older hardware will no more supported. I mean, this is against the general idea of angstrom, too.
Oct 25 13:23:59 <vanguard> The idea of angstrom was, to let it run everywhere.
Oct 25 13:24:18 <hrw> do we enabled pxa overlays on akita?
Oct 25 13:24:22 <vanguard> ....and not only on newest hardware, isn t it ?
Oct 25 13:25:37 <koen> to run it on stuff people want to support
Oct 25 13:26:13 <XorA> hrw: not currently, thats one of the changes Tim will send
Oct 25 13:26:29 <vanguard> koen: At starting og Angstrom it was described in another way, sorry.
Oct 25 13:27:25 <hrw> ok
Oct 25 13:29:48 <vanguard> Anyway, I am just here, to say: Thanks !!!!!
Oct 25 13:30:19 * XorA shoots Vanguard
Oct 25 13:30:52 <vanguard> ???
Oct 25 13:31:07 <XorA> we always shoot the messengers
Oct 25 13:31:40 <hrw> it is healthy
Oct 25 16:35:58 <stealth> how do I fix  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0)
Oct 25 16:42:31 <hrw|gone> stealth: spitz?
Oct 25 16:42:41 <hrw|gone> and you replaced microdrive?
Oct 25 16:45:41 <hrw|gone> stealth: if you boot to compactflash then give us 'pccardctl ident' output
Oct 25 16:45:44 <hrw|gone> bye
Oct 25 17:17:25 <stealth> hrw|gone, its ipaq im flashing internal
Oct 25 17:17:31 <stealth> no cf or microdrive
Oct 25 17:20:01 <summatusmentis> koen: ping
Oct 25 17:50:39 <stealth> How do I install angstrom on ipaq 3765? I ymodem the x11 jffs2 image but all I get is [    0.960000] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(2,0) when booting..?
Oct 25 17:50:48 <stealth> i used the 3600 image
Oct 25 18:02:15 <stealth> so angstrom is four years more up to date than familiar supposidly?
Oct 25 18:02:43 <koen> summatusmentis: pong
Oct 25 18:03:24 <summatusmentis> koen: did you end up talking to mickey|away about SoC? I'm not trying to be pushy, I'm just interested, and I want to make sure I get the necessary skills before the summer comes
Oct 25 18:04:02 <koen> summatusmentis: not yet, could you send a mail to the oe-devel list about google soc so we don't forget?
Oct 25 18:04:45 <stealth> where can I get support?
Oct 25 18:04:52 <summatusmentis> koen: of course, I'll do that shortly
Oct 25 18:14:10 <stealth> I've done rule 1 and 2 but there isnt relaly and docs about my hardware.. 3 and 4 I cant do because nobody will answer my questions... 5 I can't say if its a bug since nobody can answer my questions
Oct 25 18:16:18 <stealth> so it leads me to ask... what is the point of angstrom if its support and documentation is worse than familiar? "to unify their effort to make a stable and userfriendly distribution for embedded devices" ... well id like to see it
Oct 25 18:17:21 <koen> nobody is going to look into a bug that isn't reported in the bugtracker
Oct 25 18:17:29 <koen> whining on irc is not going to change a thing
Oct 25 18:18:52 <stealth> well since IRC is more real time and I check the bug tracker and nothing is in there.. im wondering if its somthing I did or ... if it really is a bug
Oct 25 18:19:00 <stealth> if its a bug just tell me its a bug instead of saying nothing
Oct 25 18:19:59 <koen> don't make me repeat myself
Oct 25 18:20:06 <stealth> plus bug is step 5.. im on step 2
Oct 25 18:20:30 <koen> they are rules, not consecutive steps
Oct 25 18:22:17 <stealth> then they should be bulleted and not numbered .. they are noted as 'importation' rules... oh i found my first bug
Oct 25 18:22:50 <koen> no, they should be numbered
Oct 25 18:23:11 <koen> it clearly says "rules", not "follow these steps in this particular order"
Oct 25 18:23:13 <stealth> u just said they are not consecutive steps
Oct 25 18:23:44 <koen> so if I put a number in front of something it AUTOMATICALLY and ALWAYS is a consecutive step?
Oct 25 18:24:31 <stealth> yeah
Oct 25 18:24:37 <pH5> BZZT, wrong
Oct 25 18:25:23 <summatusmentis> koen: email sent
Oct 25 18:25:27 <stealth> Under introduction it does not say "do not follow these steps in this particular order" http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
Oct 25 18:26:06 <koen> if it does NOT say that, why are you claiming it does?
Oct 25 18:26:59 <pH5> but he is not, he claims it says to do the opposite, which it doesn't either.
Oct 25 18:27:37 <stealth> your saying do not follow a list consecutivley that is ordered numerically
Oct 25 18:28:12 <stealth> lol
Oct 25 18:28:14 <pH5> stealth: possibly the rules are numbered so you can refer to them by number, not so you follow the rules in that order?
Oct 25 18:28:37 <pH5> heck, the 10 commandmends are not consecutive steps either.
Oct 25 18:28:50 <stealth> lets not go there plz
Oct 25 18:30:11 <stealth> either way im screwed, on my own as usual
Oct 25 18:32:21 <pH5> stealth: that's the fate of all of us using devices that few others have.
Oct 25 18:33:17 <stealth> ehh ill just put fam back on it.. 4 years older and yet still works to a point
Oct 25 18:35:12 <stealth> yea sucks being non importation
Oct 25 20:53:52 <mimecar> how many space can use an image build ?
Oct 25 21:06:29 <summatusmentis> ~4GB? maybe?
Oct 25 21:06:54 <mimecar> i have a disk with 34 GB, and only 4 GB left
Oct 25 21:07:03 <mimecar> I'm doing something wrong
Oct 25 21:07:41 <summatusmentis> what do you mean?
Oct 25 21:07:59 <mimecar> i think i have duplicate directories
Oct 25 21:08:14 <mimecar> this afternoon, collie compilation was on task 1200 / 1500
Oct 25 21:08:23 <mimecar> and now it's on task 800 / 1500...
Oct 25 21:08:37 <mimecar> without update and shut down the virtual machine ok
Oct 25 21:09:07 <mimecar> my compilation works on /stuff
Oct 25 21:09:14 <mimecar> and i've files on my user's home
Oct 25 21:10:58 <summatusmentis> it's possible you started a build not in the same directory as you had earlier
Oct 25 21:11:14 <mimecar> i change BBPATH all the times
Oct 25 21:11:27 <mimecar> i don't know, but i'm losting compiled files
Oct 25 21:12:59 <mimecar> how can i know folder space ?
Oct 25 21:19:38 <mimecar> summatusmentis:  i have different versions of the same package, can i delete old versions ?
Oct 25 21:22:19 <summatusmentis> mimecar: I honestly don't know... you should ask someone else, it's been a while since i've used OE
Oct 25 21:22:30 <mimecar> ok, thanks
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