**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 05 02:59:57 2007 Nov 05 10:31:37 hello Nov 05 10:32:54 hi Nov 05 10:34:13 I can't find if Nov 05 10:50:06 koen, hello! Nov 05 13:06:26 koen, i read a mail of yours where you stated in july that you are talking to atmel about avr32 and angstrom ?? any news on that ? will it happen anytime soon ? Nov 05 13:06:47 rob_w|laptop: steliosk is talking to them Nov 05 13:38:04 python2.4 is not avaliable any longer? Nov 05 13:46:38 exactly Nov 05 13:47:49 hmm...python-evas and related still build against python2.4 :/ Nov 05 13:51:50 patches welcome? Nov 05 13:54:05 :D Nov 05 13:54:27 yeah i know... Nov 05 13:56:56 but since i have no knowledge in openembedded/bitbake I thought I'll hear here first Nov 05 14:00:39 python-evas builds fine against 2.5 Nov 05 14:00:48 why do you think it doesn't? Nov 05 14:02:02 mickey|tv, yes it builds fine, but creates site-packages in python2.4 Nov 05 14:02:20 mickey|tv, does it run for you? Nov 05 14:02:43 last time i tried, it did Nov 05 14:02:52 hmm strange Nov 05 14:02:54 it should not create site-packages in 2.4 Nov 05 14:02:59 _if_ you have built 2.5 Nov 05 14:03:16 i can't build that atm. Nov 05 14:03:28 i can update EFL + python in OE on weekend Nov 05 14:03:51 i just did ipkg install python-evas, and i got python-core and python-evas, one of wich made python2.5, and the other installed in python2.4 :) Nov 05 14:05:11 ah, you just install from feed Nov 05 14:05:18 that means one of the packages is old, and one is newer Nov 05 14:05:54 mickey|tv, yes makes sense Nov 05 14:06:07 mickey|tv, sorry didn't make that clear Nov 05 14:06:12 np Nov 05 15:18:58 what does it take to become a machne mentor? Nov 05 15:19:02 machine* Nov 05 15:19:09 a soul and a little time Nov 05 15:20:24 coding experience? Nov 05 15:21:40 usefull but not always needed Nov 05 15:22:05 ~collie Nov 05 15:22:45 I _may_ be interested in mentoring for the 5500(I think it's collie) Nov 05 15:24:53 collie Nov 05 15:25:20 collie require coding experience and serial cable ;( Nov 05 15:25:33 I have some coding experience, no serial cable Nov 05 15:25:38 hi Nov 05 15:25:44 but probably not the extent of coding experience necessary Nov 05 15:25:53 hey dcordes Nov 05 15:28:34 hrw, images are to be uploaded and teste once a week right? Nov 05 15:29:48 depends on mentor Nov 05 18:49:10 hi Nov 05 19:57:33 Hi! Nov 05 19:57:48 RP, hi Nov 05 19:58:01 hi Ctulhu Nov 05 19:59:09 RP, are u a hx2000-port maintainer? Nov 05 19:59:23 Ctulhu: I guess so Nov 05 20:00:24 RP, do u think we will get any succes in future? Nov 05 20:01:27 I mean power management and BT&WiFi Nov 05 20:01:34 Ctulhu: I haven't had time to work on it much for a long time Nov 05 20:01:44 other than to half updates some of the patches Nov 05 20:02:30 RP, do u have free time for it now? :) Nov 05 20:02:43 Ctulhu: no :( Nov 05 20:02:53 :( eh... Nov 05 20:03:03 Ctulhu: Its still on the todo list but fairly low down :( Nov 05 20:04:06 RP, is it very hard to write a drive for BT? where can I get specs? Nov 05 20:04:40 Ctulhu: There are other devices with the same BT so that might not be too hard Nov 05 20:04:48 if I rememebr rightly anyway Nov 05 20:06:00 And power managment? So we just need power management and BT for basic PDa features. Nov 05 20:06:41 IrDA and WiFi aren't so necessary, I think Nov 05 20:07:44 what do u think about it? Nov 05 20:10:37 RP? Nov 05 20:11:06 Ctulhu: power management was half way there Nov 05 20:11:19 I think it needs wifi to be useful Nov 05 20:11:29 * RP -> back later Nov 05 20:50:37 re Nov 05 20:53:47 hi meme Nov 05 20:53:52 hi memenarsil Nov 05 20:54:41 hi mimecar Nov 05 21:29:56 hi all Nov 05 21:29:58 anyone here ? Nov 05 21:30:36 no one is here ? Nov 05 21:38:51 * RP returns Nov 05 21:38:59 i've troubles with kernel on spitz Nov 05 21:39:30 i've updated my angstrom this weekend (or last week), before upgrading, my kernel was 2.6.22, and all modules were OK Nov 05 21:40:21 ABC|dOC: Whats the problem now? Nov 05 21:40:26 now i've still 2.6.22 but no more modules, all are installed for 2.6.23. In /boot i've a softlink zImage to zImage-2.6.23, but no file zImage-2.6.23. how should i choose the boot kernel ? how could i install a working 2.6.23 kernel package Nov 05 21:40:48 ABC|dOC: You need to flash the kernel, it can only be updated by the bootloader Nov 05 21:40:53 ok Nov 05 21:41:01 what may I do ? Nov 05 21:41:10 i didn't find something about it in wiki and faq Nov 05 21:41:15 ABC|dOC: To do that follow the usual reflash procedure but only provide the zImage, not the hdimage1.tgz file Nov 05 21:41:27 ok Nov 05 21:41:35 i need to flahs to change kernel ok Nov 05 21:42:22 but were do i find the correct zImage file ? Nov 05 21:42:25 where Nov 05 21:43:24 I don't know where angstrom publish it Nov 05 21:43:30 oh Nov 05 21:43:43 is there any other way to load a specific kernel, i mean without flashing Nov 05 21:43:53 kexec it Nov 05 21:45:02 what kexec is ? KernelEXECute ? i don't have that command Nov 05 21:49:25 you still need the right kernel to execute Nov 05 21:49:37 you'll find kexec in the kexec-tools package Nov 05 21:50:08 what do we use for a man command? What ipk would I need? Nov 05 21:50:10 i find the package yes Nov 05 21:50:42 i took kernel-2.6.23-rc3 package too, but it's only 1.3KB :/ And no way to extract it from a debian Nov 05 21:51:12 the only think i need is zImage 3 Nov 05 21:51:22 the only think i need is zImage 2.6.23 file for spitz Nov 05 21:51:45 There isn't one with any images? Nov 05 21:52:30 my god i'm idiot :/ Nov 05 21:52:41 i think i need kernel-image 2.6.23 package too Nov 05 21:53:11 i've the file :) Nov 05 21:55:52 there isnt' a man command in /unstable/feed/armv5te/base, nor in what I've installed Nov 05 21:58:01 heh heh, we package man-pages as armv5te which is wrong and forget to actually have a man command to read them Nov 05 21:58:17 XorA|gone: hi ! Nov 05 21:58:26 yeah! lol Nov 05 21:58:30 ut uh, the DOC is on the block Nov 05 22:01:10 ABC|dOC, hey Nov 05 22:01:30 ABC|dOC, how is google phone development going? Nov 05 22:02:04 dcordes: i'm working for Orange, not for google :p Nov 05 22:02:19 I heard orange was involved in development Nov 05 22:02:21 XorA|gone: i hope it sounds good for you Nov 05 22:02:51 dcordes: ah, i'm not informed about this. the company i work for is working on internet/SMS/vocal only Nov 05 22:03:04 * XorA|gone did projects for orange before, cool guys Nov 05 22:03:07 and i'm not in dev team (java only) but in sysadmin team Nov 05 22:03:18 XorA|gone: orange, certainly, but orange france, i'm not that sure Nov 05 22:03:53 ok Nov 05 22:04:10 Orange bristol Nov 05 22:04:12 RP: ok i flashed my spitz with the kernel-image 2.6.23, and it's all ok now :) Nov 05 22:04:13 UK Nov 05 22:04:36 ABC|dOC, does your 802.11x cf card work? Nov 05 22:04:42 i test it now Nov 05 22:05:22 dcordes: hohoho, my wifi script is running well Nov 05 22:05:26 getting DHCP ok Nov 05 22:05:32 cool Nov 05 22:05:46 all network is ok with my 802.11 card Nov 05 22:06:00 one day, i'll borry you with udev and all that things Nov 05 22:06:14 time to sleep Nov 05 22:06:41 i've a fully running script for my WF card management, i just need to make it starting when inserting wifi card Nov 05 22:06:45 XorA|gone: have a good night Nov 05 22:06:45 XorA|gone, gnite Nov 05 22:07:28 ABC|dOC, for wpa purpose? Nov 05 22:07:43 I manage all my wifi needs with /etc/network/interfaces Nov 05 22:09:05 dcordes: i'm paranoid enough to use only wpa yes ;) Nov 05 22:09:50 you in sysadmin team, you have to Nov 05 22:10:53 dcordes: my script is stronger i think, because it stops all running connexions (if the last one was not well stopped...), it eject CF card (to bypass problem with suspend mode), it reload the CF card, then detect the card type (i've 3 types : ethernet, wifi and BT), then if wifi card detected, it runs wpa, then dhcp, then ntpclient Nov 05 22:11:42 i think i'll submit my home scripts to angstrom team when i'll add udev support Nov 05 22:12:43 it's just bash scripts, very simples and maybe not very well written, but they are working very fine for me (my other "main" script runs same shits, and start GPRS connexion using BT cell) Nov 05 22:13:53 re Nov 05 22:13:58 hi Nov 05 22:14:03 good night all, got to go Nov 05 22:14:09 wpa-supplicant simplify wifi management **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 05 23:50:56 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 05 23:51:16 2007 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 06 02:59:56 2007