**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 07 02:59:57 2007
Nov 07 10:19:37 <MWelchUK|Work> Hi guys.
Nov 07 10:22:17 <MWelchUK|Work> I've just written a script using (as far as I know) "sh" syntax. It's grabbing a byte (with dd) from /dev/urandom and piping the output through busyboxes (1.2.1) hexdump, awk and sed to format it the way required. Busybox seems to be bombing out (deciding I asked for "ls") after an indeterminate number of iterations.
Nov 07 10:22:34 <MWelchUK|Work> This is on intel and powerpc architectures.
Nov 07 10:24:41 <MWelchUK|Work> It seems that busybox 1.2.1 is quite old, but seems to still be the default for angstrom. Is there a reason for this? Other than "it's stable"?
Nov 07 10:25:47 <koen|away> it's the default for angstrom 2007.1
Nov 07 10:25:50 <koen|away> 2008.1 uses 1.7.2
Nov 07 10:27:17 <MWelchUK|Work> Ah, OK. I get the impression from a quick trawl of the web that busybox's shell at least used to be held together with duct tape, is that still the case?
Nov 07 10:38:28 <koen|away> it is
Nov 07 10:41:08 * MWelchUK|Work decides to look for an alternative - not requiring convoluted pipes.
Nov 07 10:41:16 <MWelchUK|Work> cheers.
Nov 07 12:28:17 <kiko_> Newbie question. I'm considering to get used SL-C3xxx for Angstrom. The difference between 3000 and 3100 seems size of Flash memory (16MB vs 128MB). Will the difference be affected for running speed of programs?
Nov 07 12:32:05 <mickey|lunch> no
Nov 07 12:33:34 <kiko_> cool. then i should get 3000 :D ($100 cheaper)
Nov 07 12:34:14 <kiko_> thanks mickey!
Nov 07 12:35:14 <hx2k> hi!
Nov 07 12:47:08 <hrw> kiko_: good move
Nov 07 12:52:28 <kiko_> hrw: i hope so :) (sorry for lagged reply.. i'm making sure 3000 is good to go, about to push 'buy now' button)
Nov 07 12:53:48 <hrw> depends what you want to have
Nov 07 12:54:20 <hrw> remember that zaurus machines lack wifi or bluetooth so you will need extra hardware if want to use wifi/bt
Nov 07 12:55:02 <kiko_> i want to have emacs, along with planner mode for scheduling. yeah.. i  can live with ugly wifi CF on side
Nov 07 12:55:08 <hrw> I am wondering how much will n810 costs - this can be nice hardware for zaurus replacement
Nov 07 12:56:35 <hrw> $480
Nov 07 12:56:49 <NAbyss> Not bad..
Nov 07 12:57:12 <NAbyss> I've been looking at the asus eee lately though.. it's a bit larger, but cheap for what it is
Nov 07 12:57:38 <kiko_> i used em one for a week. hardware seems almost same with n810 but with WM6 :/
Nov 07 13:04:08 <kiko_> uhh.. Eee looks nice
Nov 07 13:19:37 <dcordes> kiko_: very handy device
Nov 07 13:24:03 <dcordes> kiko_: but screen is too small
Nov 07 13:27:01 <kiko_> but as PDA, its big :)
Nov 07 13:27:52 <dcordes> yes. I mean the screen compared to the device's size
Nov 07 13:29:19 <kiko_> oh.. you are right dcordes 
Nov 07 13:31:48 <kiko_> expansys is gonna ship black model in 7 days :q
Nov 07 13:33:08 <dcordes> I had one of the white ones
Nov 07 13:33:22 <kiko_> 'had'? what happen?
Nov 07 13:34:04 <dcordes> my brother had to give it back
Nov 07 13:34:50 <kiko_> how did you think about the device? small screen compared to the size.. not worth?
Nov 07 13:35:44 <dcordes> regarding the prize it is worth it- if you're looking for a small laptop
Nov 07 13:37:15 <kiko_> subnote are too expensive for my budget :(
Nov 07 13:37:17 <eekee> sounds like the spitz
Nov 07 13:39:14 <dcordes> I prefer my akita over eeepc :)
Nov 07 13:40:20 <XorA> dcordes: what did yah want?
Nov 07 13:40:37 <dcordes> XorA: something about ettercap-ng recipe
Nov 07 13:40:46 <dcordes> already fixed but have bunch of new problems with it
Nov 07 13:41:42 * XorA knows nothing of ettercap
Nov 07 14:52:37 <dariball> hey. someone here who could help me with my h4150 and booting angstrom from sd-card with haret (or is haret noch prefered?) the liveramdisk works nice, but booting with haret from sd won't work, means it gives me 3 lines raw output on a blank screen, then the screen is blank again.... without any change and responsivness
Nov 07 14:53:13 <dariball> s/noch/not ;)
Nov 07 21:43:45 <mimecar> hi
Nov 07 22:29:18 <mimecar> hi hr
Nov 07 22:29:21 <mimecar> hi hrw
Nov 07 22:36:24 <mimecar> hrw: are you here ?
Nov 07 22:40:41 <mimecar> night all
Nov 07 22:43:51 <hrw> fine, thx
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