**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 14 02:59:57 2007
Nov 14 08:01:45 <lumag> morning!
Nov 14 13:22:58 <g4lv4tr0n> anyone know if it is possible to build the sun phoneME jvm for 5600(watapon) ?
Nov 14 13:23:09 <g4lv4tr0n> it has been built for pdaxrom already
Nov 14 13:25:23 <hrw> watapon iss obsoleted
Nov 14 19:12:07 <dcordes> join #openmoko
Nov 14 19:26:32 <vanguard> Hi all !
Nov 14 19:27:03 <hrw> hi
Nov 14 19:27:17 <vanguard> Hi hrw 
Nov 14 19:27:31 <vanguard> Today  have a new input.
Nov 14 19:28:15 <vanguard> I discovered the following:
Nov 14 19:29:04 <vanguard> When the SL-C1000 is switched off, and you press on the top of the Cover, the Z switches on.
Nov 14 19:29:27 <vanguard> This is, because the diplay presses some keys on the keyboard.
Nov 14 19:30:01 <vanguard> You know, you can switch the Z on, while pressing on of the white buttons.
Nov 14 19:30:53 <vanguard> The only solution I see, is, to deactivate the irq of the keyboard (or scnacodes), when the Z is closed.
Nov 14 19:31:19 <vanguard> I do not know, if this implemented in the BIOS, too. 
Nov 14 19:31:19 <hrw> power key is also keyboard..
Nov 14 19:31:28 <hrw> there is no bios in zaurus
Nov 14 19:31:52 <vanguard> So the OS is always running ?
Nov 14 19:32:09 <vanguard> Even, just before flash ????
Nov 14 19:32:14 <mimecar> hi guys
Nov 14 19:32:28 <vanguard> hi mimecar 
Nov 14 19:32:38 <mimecar> hi vanguard
Nov 14 19:33:07 <dcordes> vanguard, did you notice 2.4 kernel booting when you want to flash?
Nov 14 19:33:09 <dcordes> ;)
Nov 14 19:33:23 <vanguard> There must be a bios, as when I will flash the system, there is some graphics.
Nov 14 19:33:26 <hrw> vanguard: Z has prom bootloader which boots flas bootloader which boot kernel
Nov 14 19:33:34 <hrw> vanguard: it is not bios
Nov 14 19:33:35 <vanguard> No, dcordes , never.
Nov 14 19:33:57 <hrw> vanguard: when you flash !5500 you starts system based on 2.4 kernel
Nov 14 19:34:10 <vanguard> hrw: O.k. , I believe you.
Nov 14 19:34:29 <dcordes> :P
Nov 14 19:34:39 <vanguard> hrw: But how can be inhibited, to activate the keys, when the lid is closed ?
Nov 14 19:35:07 <hrw> vanguard: zaurus never really sleeps
Nov 14 19:35:09 <mimecar> what the problem is?
Nov 14 19:35:11 <vanguard> hrw: My idea is, to deactivate some scancodes, especially those of the white keys.
Nov 14 19:35:22 <hrw> vanguard: blame sharp
Nov 14 19:35:22 <vanguard> and Alt and Fn.
Nov 14 19:35:53 <vanguard> hrw: This is not possible by angstrom, right ?
Nov 14 19:36:09 <hrw> not now
Nov 14 19:36:34 <vanguard> I see. It is not a software problem, but a "prom"-problem.
Nov 14 19:36:41 <hrw> its hardware problem
Nov 14 19:36:49 <vanguard> This is , what I meant.
Nov 14 19:37:38 <vanguard> The display is very near to the keyboard. O.k., if it cannot be fixed by software, I fix it with some plates. :)
Nov 14 19:38:31 <vanguard> It took a long time for me, to find out, why my Z sometimes autoamtically switched on.
Nov 14 19:38:59 <vanguard> First I thought, this would have been caused by the wifi-card (electrical pulse)
Nov 14 19:39:16 <vanguard> Or suspend is buggy.
Nov 14 19:39:28 <vanguard> Now I found out. 
Nov 14 19:39:47 <mimecar> vanguard: have you apps open on background?
Nov 14 19:39:55 <mimecar> when you suspend the zaurus ?
Nov 14 19:40:11 <vanguard> mimecar: No, I always close all apps.
Nov 14 19:40:29 <mimecar> on my akita that's a problem for battery
Nov 14 19:41:01 <vanguard> mimecar: Yes, mine too. Espcially, when the wifi card is still connected in.
Nov 14 19:41:20 <mimecar> if you know that, you must close it
Nov 14 19:41:35 <vanguard> It sitches on, when it is closed !
Nov 14 19:41:46 <vanguard> That is the problem.
Nov 14 19:42:01 <mimecar> hrw: with the suspend script, can be some message showed to the user ?
Nov 14 19:42:15 <mimecar> "you have 5 apps open, it will drain your battery"
Nov 14 19:43:06 <hrw> mimecar: I do not know does suspend can be stopped
Nov 14 19:43:33 <Crofton> koen, I am guilty of not uploading images
Nov 14 19:43:33 <mimecar> I don't want stop ir
Nov 14 19:43:34 <mimecar> it
Nov 14 19:43:55 <vanguard> hrw: About suspend: It would be nice, If you could shut off the display, but let the apps running.
Nov 14 19:43:56 <mimecar> before you call the script (it's a matchbox option on gpe) you give the advice
Nov 14 19:43:56 <Crofton> I need to send you another key
Nov 14 19:44:10 <mimecar> vanguard: you can do it on opie
Nov 14 19:44:35 <mimecar> it's posible with original rom on akita
Nov 14 19:44:41 <vanguard> mimecar: Yes, I know. I miss these things. In opie it was possible, to "preload" some apps.
Nov 14 19:44:50 <vanguard> This was a nice feture.
Nov 14 19:46:00 <vanguard> mimecar: When closing the lid, I think , it will be possible, to let the Z lot of things to do, as the two little switches are pressed.
Nov 14 19:46:18 <mimecar> what do you want do ?
Nov 14 19:46:22 <vanguard> And I suppose, these switches do have a scancode, to.
Nov 14 19:46:51 <vanguard> If you can read the scancode, you can start every script, you want.
Nov 14 19:46:52 <mimecar> that's a low level function
Nov 14 19:47:05 <vanguard> Just an idea.....
Nov 14 19:47:21 <dcordes> interesting that more running applications drain more power on standby
Nov 14 19:48:00 <vanguard> dcordes: Maybe because the cpu hast to switch among those applications ?
Nov 14 19:49:33 <dcordes> don't know. I'm just wondering why it's the case because I was always assuming the Z would do nothing at all in standby
Nov 14 19:49:48 <mimecar> if you want sleep the CPU, you must disable ALL the features, except bootup from buttons
Nov 14 19:50:12 <vanguard> mimecar: How can I do this ?
Nov 14 19:50:23 <mimecar> you can't
Nov 14 19:50:35 <mimecar> that's a cpu only level, 
Nov 14 19:50:50 <vanguard> That`s a pity.
Nov 14 19:50:57 <mimecar> if you can tell the CPU: disable bus and other stuffs and only hear some thing
Nov 14 19:51:07 <mimecar> if you do it wrong, your cpu won't bootup 
Nov 14 19:52:15 <mimecar> vanguard: you should know cpu model and assembler codes
Nov 14 19:52:16 <vanguard> I am missing the opportunity, to switch the disply off.
Nov 14 19:53:07 <vanguard> mimecar: I am no coder, sry. This is no excusion, this is a fact.
Nov 14 19:53:31 <mimecar> for screen, it must be an option
Nov 14 19:53:43 <mimecar> no the critical method for battery
Nov 14 19:54:25 <mimecar> hrw: how can I aply a patch over the source code of one program?
Nov 14 19:54:39 <hrw> add it to SRC_URI?
Nov 14 19:55:10 <mimecar> as a dependence?
Nov 14 19:55:17 <hrw> no 
Nov 14 19:56:18 <mimecar> is it on the OE manual ?
Nov 14 19:56:30 <CoreDump> it is
Nov 14 19:56:44 <mimecar> ok, then i'll read the pdf
Nov 14 19:56:47 <mimecar> thanks CoreDump
Nov 14 19:56:48 <CoreDump> and OE provides thousands of examples on how to do it ;)
Nov 14 19:56:54 <mimecar> and hrw ;)
Nov 14 19:56:56 <dcordes> hrw, uuuh you must specify each patch in SRC_URI? I thought putting it into the patch folder above $S would suffice 
Nov 14 19:57:04 <hrw> no
Nov 14 19:57:29 <dcordes> now I know why my product doesn't configure ^^
Nov 14 19:57:43 <mimecar> dcordes: ??
Nov 14 19:58:19 <dcordes> I tried to add a new verison of some recipe but it needed patches. I didn't add up the patch to SRC_URI in the new recipe so it did not build
Nov 14 19:58:32 * dcordes goes rtfm
Nov 14 19:58:54 <mimecar> hi summatusmentis
Nov 14 19:59:25 <summatusmentis> hi mimecar 
Nov 14 20:01:00 <vanguard> Is "getting time from the network" running at your Z's ?
Nov 14 20:01:14 <vanguard> I always get the wrong hour.
Nov 14 20:01:43 <dcordes> vanguard, using "ntpdate"?
Nov 14 20:01:53 <dcordes> I also get wrong timezone with it
Nov 14 20:02:04 <dcordes> gmt or so
Nov 14 20:02:05 <vanguard> Then iot is a bug.
Nov 14 20:02:32 <dcordes> well I didn't set any timezone. How can ntpdate know where we are if we don't tell
Nov 14 20:02:57 <vanguard> I set the timezone. I get errors in the commandline, too.
Nov 14 20:03:06 <dcordes> how do you do so?
Nov 14 20:03:08 <mimecar> dcordes: did you st a country?
Nov 14 20:03:19 <vanguard> You can start gpe-conf in the commandline.
Nov 14 20:04:08 <vanguard> ->> gpe-conf time <<-- lets you see more.
Nov 14 20:04:34 <vanguard> The other thing, which is not working is > gpe-conf usb
Nov 14 20:04:41 <mimecar> byes...
Nov 14 20:04:57 <dcordes> hey it worked
Nov 14 20:05:05 <dcordes> at least uptime prints the right time now
Nov 14 20:05:13 <dcordes> now let me ntpdate and see if it stays.
Nov 14 20:05:49 <vanguard> dcordes: Do you use the GUI ?
Nov 14 20:08:05 <dcordes> oh ok. I just set the time with the gui, not the zone. Time is set wrong again after I set the zone. Also when I update time with ntpdate again afterwards
Nov 14 20:08:33 <dcordes> s/time is set wrong/time stays wrong; doesn't change/
Nov 14 20:09:44 <vanguard> dcordes: Just start a shell, then become root, then start gpe-conf usb
Nov 14 20:09:52 <vanguard> gpe-conf time
Nov 14 20:09:54 <vanguard> sorry
Nov 14 20:10:04 <vanguard> Then you can see, what is happening.
Nov 14 20:10:31 <dcordes> it fires up the gui I just talked about
Nov 14 20:10:55 <vanguard> Yes, but now you can see in the shell, what is happening !
Nov 14 20:11:08 <vanguard> You can see stdout.
Nov 14 20:11:59 <dcordes> ah got it
Nov 14 20:12:08 <vanguard> This way, you can check all GUI-things, which are doing wrong.
Nov 14 20:12:10 <dcordes> propably upstream problem with gpe sources
Nov 14 20:12:44 <vanguard> gpe-conf usb is buggy, too. Something with the "kernel-modules-gadget"
Nov 14 20:12:54 <dcordes> ah no. Rather with angstrom itself. cannot create /var/spool/at/trigger: Dir nonexistant
Nov 14 20:13:44 <dcordes> I'll file a bug
Nov 14 20:13:56 <vanguard> Try gpe-conf usb, and change in the GUI to "storage".
Nov 14 20:14:04 <vanguard> It will not work, too.
Nov 14 20:14:35 <dcordes> I know we already talked about the problem. There's an old bug open on this
Nov 14 20:14:40 <vanguard> You will see an error message.
Nov 14 20:15:02 <dcordes> I know
Nov 14 20:15:07 <dcordes> it's a known problem
Nov 14 20:15:14 <vanguard> O.k. 
Nov 14 20:15:37 <vanguard> I am reporting the bugs, I discovered here, because I do not know, which are already known.
Nov 14 20:16:07 <vanguard> Discussing here is faster, than searching through the whole bugreports.
Nov 14 20:16:14 <dcordes> vanguard, oh that's fatal: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1619
Nov 14 20:16:31 <dcordes> you should rather do a search to get the problem fixed faster
Nov 14 20:16:58 <dcordes> posting duplicates won't get you far
Nov 14 20:17:12 <dcordes> just file a comment to 1619 even if it is ancient
Nov 14 20:17:20 <vanguard> The problem is, that some things I discovered cannot clearly be pointed to certain applications.
Nov 14 20:18:05 <dcordes> did you just open a new bug concerning usb mass storage?
Nov 14 20:18:20 <vanguard> gpe-conf , kernel-module, ntpdate ??? Which one causes the problem ??? for example....
Nov 14 20:18:36 <vanguard> No, I didn't
Nov 14 20:18:42 <dcordes> I'm already at the timezone thing
Nov 14 20:18:45 <vanguard> I told about.
Nov 14 20:18:55 <dcordes> or would you like to file?
Nov 14 20:19:20 <vanguard> I habe problems, using the bugreport. I feel it complicated.
Nov 14 20:20:19 <vanguard> Networkshield is not running, too. Another bug, although iptables is installed, it inhibits to start.
Nov 14 20:20:47 <vanguard> I should collect the whole things I dicovered, and send it to someone.
Nov 14 20:21:21 <dcordes> don't use that
Nov 14 20:21:48 <vanguard> Another thing: The keys (the white ones), cannot be changed.
Nov 14 20:22:23 <dcordes> don't use these either :)
Nov 14 20:22:47 <dcordes> I'm happy the offscreen keys on the right of the display were deactivated
Nov 14 20:23:02 <dcordes> I always hit them while scrolling
Nov 14 20:23:24 <vanguard> I had to edit the file /etc/key-layout.zaurus-clamshell.
Nov 14 20:23:52 <vanguard> This worked ! Now I can start claws-mail, and no more sylepheed.
Nov 14 20:25:13 <vanguard> Is ist possible, to send someone a modified version, which can be implemented into the package and/or images ?
Nov 14 20:26:17 <dcordes> vanguard, put it into the bugtracker. Just open a bug named "white akita pim keys don't work" or so and post your file mentioning that it works with that change
Nov 14 20:26:35 <dcordes> and hope somebody will commit it
Nov 14 20:26:37 <dcordes> or bug XorA|gone :)
Nov 14 20:26:44 <vanguard> Yes, that is a good idea ! I will prepare one for it.
Nov 14 20:27:13 <hrw> XorA does not maintain zaurus machines anymore
Nov 14 20:27:33 <vanguard> This way, I can improve otrher things, too, and send them to bugreport.
Nov 14 20:27:45 <vanguard> Tim Chicks, is it.
Nov 14 20:28:37 <dcordes> hrw, how do I commit new product(version)? File a bug and post packages/dir ?
Nov 14 20:28:42 <vanguard> Does angstrom got no /root ?
Nov 14 20:28:53 <hrw> dcordes: new recipes?
Nov 14 20:28:54 <dcordes> it has /home/root
Nov 14 20:28:58 <hrw> vanguard: no - /home/root
Nov 14 20:28:58 <dcordes> hrw, yes plus patch
Nov 14 20:29:24 <vanguard> dcordes: Yes, I know. But there are no "root"-specific adjustments.
Nov 14 20:29:26 <hrw> dcordes: add them into local working copy and send 'mtn diff drectry' output to bugtracker
Nov 14 20:29:44 <dcordes> they are inside it
Nov 14 20:29:53 <dcordes> I hope I have no other crap lying around in packages
Nov 14 20:29:59 <hrw> vanguard: /home/ is separate partition on many our devices and we want to keep users data intact even after flashing
Nov 14 20:30:20 <vanguard> hrw: Is this policy for root, too ?
Nov 14 20:30:32 <dcordes> my home dir is on / which is /media/card
Nov 14 20:30:32 <hrw> vanguard: root is also user
Nov 14 20:30:43 <dcordes> vanguard, don't you also boot from sd?
Nov 14 20:31:04 <vanguard> hrw: Where are the configurations stored for root ?
Nov 14 20:31:19 <vanguard> i.e. background colour.
Nov 14 20:31:19 <hrw> in /home/root/
Nov 14 20:31:32 <vanguard> No, /home/root is empty.
Nov 14 20:31:48 <dcordes> altboot is asking you whether you want to move home dir to card
Nov 14 20:31:54 <vanguard> But root got own configurations.
Nov 14 20:32:04 <dcordes> vanguard, that is because you did not login as root to gpe yet
Nov 14 20:32:33 <vanguard> dcordes: when I log in as root, I get GPE and a red background. 
Nov 14 20:32:58 <vanguard> Just as I configured it, but /home/root is empty.
Nov 14 20:32:59 <dcordes> and ls -la /home/root stays empty?
Nov 14 20:33:03 <vanguard> Yes.
Nov 14 20:33:26 <vanguard> I will check it agin.
Nov 14 20:33:39 <vanguard> Maybe I missed hiden files.
Nov 14 20:33:44 <dcordes> vanguard, ls -lh /media/ROM/home/root ?
Nov 14 20:34:28 <vanguard> My fault ! I missed the hidden files. Dammit !
Nov 14 20:34:33 <dcordes> ;)
Nov 14 20:35:35 <dcordes> hrw, "mtn diff mystuff/packages/myproduct" : mtn: warning: restriction includes unknown path 'ettercap-ng'
Nov 14 20:35:49 <vanguard> I will improve some configurations and report it to bugreports.
Nov 14 20:36:14 <dcordes> cool
Nov 14 20:37:05 <dcordes> hrw, mtn diff without anything just shows up changes in some fontconfig recipe
Nov 14 20:37:53 <vanguard> dcordes: Do you know, if you close the lid, the Z does suspend ?
Nov 14 20:38:17 <dcordes> it doesn't. already noticed this in 2.6.23
Nov 14 20:38:48 <vanguard> O.k., I just saw the lights go off, but I could not see any more.
Nov 14 20:39:18 <dcordes> nothing goes off for me
Nov 14 20:39:38 <octal_sio> has anyone been able to successfully run angstrom on the N800 (or 770)?
Nov 14 20:39:40 <vanguard> But if this so, this would be cool, as you are able to let some things run (yes, kismet !), and can save power.
Nov 14 20:39:48 <octal_sio> because if not then I have no reason to shell out for it :p
Nov 14 20:39:49 <dcordes> but you can't judge on that observation because I use xserver-kdrive
Nov 14 20:40:13 <dcordes> octal_sio, koen|away has an n800
Nov 14 20:40:17 <vanguard> octal_sio: No, a friend of me got one, but did not manage it.
Nov 14 20:40:40 <dcordes> octal_sio, but I think he also runs maemo on it
Nov 14 20:41:01 <hrw> dcordes: cd mystuff/packages/;mtn add myproduct -R;mtn diff myproduct
Nov 14 20:41:18 <octal_sio> ok, thanks
Nov 14 20:41:34 <octal_sio> I guess I'll just wait a little bit...
Nov 14 20:43:42 <dcordes> hrw, cool the first diff I ever made ^^
Nov 14 20:45:22 <dcordes> hrw, I accidently added a .bb~ backup file of the recipe. How do I get rid of it from the manifest?
Nov 14 20:46:48 <vanguard> hrw: Do you , if the white keys are connected to the touch positions in the display, when you turn the display ?
Nov 14 20:48:07 <dcordes> vanguard, did you try pimlico apps between?
Nov 14 20:48:34 <vanguard> dcordes: Yes, I tried them, but I could not install them all.
Nov 14 20:48:54 <vanguard> I got error messages, something with "fork error".
Nov 14 20:48:58 <dcordes> I have Contacts Dates and Tasks
Nov 14 20:49:32 <vanguard> dcordes: Yes, Contacts, dates and tasks, but Sync could not be installed.,
Nov 14 20:49:40 <hrw> dcordes: mtn remove or mtn drop
Nov 14 20:49:53 <hrw> vanguard: I do not have cxx00
Nov 14 20:50:43 <vanguard> hrw: Oh, sorry. 
Nov 14 20:54:07 <dcordes> hrw, one more thing: What if some lines of the diff do not fit into the Description box in bugzilla?
Nov 14 20:56:20 <hrw> dcordes: btw - what you want to add?
Nov 14 20:56:44 <dcordes> ettercap-ng. Do I add it as Priority "enchancement"?
Nov 14 20:58:52 <hrw> yes
Nov 14 21:01:41 <dcordes> hrw, http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3298
Nov 14 21:02:48 <dcordes> I hope I made no mistakes
Nov 14 21:03:04 <vanguard> dcordes: How can I add a new bugreport.
Nov 14 21:03:22 <vanguard> I always got my old reports. I want add a new bug !
Nov 14 21:03:24 <hrw> dcordes: next time add patches as 'text/plain' ;)
Nov 14 21:03:33 <hrw> vanguard: there is "enter new bug" link
Nov 14 21:03:59 <vanguard> Yes, hrw, but I alway see my old bugs.
Nov 14 21:04:01 <dcordes> to be honest I also required some time to figure out how to file new bugs after creating bugzilla acc
Nov 14 21:04:24 <hrw> dcordes: use virtual/libiconv not libiconv, do not use RECOMMENDS
Nov 14 21:04:43 <dcordes> hrw, why not use recommends?
Nov 14 21:04:51 <vanguard> hrw: You men "New", do you ?
Nov 14 21:05:24 <dcordes> vanguard, nono that's the mistake: You click Enter new bugreport . The second item from top
Nov 14 21:05:30 <hrw> vanguard: yes
Nov 14 21:05:31 <dcordes> Also did that :)
Nov 14 21:05:56 <dcordes> oh that's the same sorry :x
Nov 14 21:06:24 <vanguard> dcordes: Yes, I did it. But there is no option to add the description.
Nov 14 21:06:55 <dcordes> go to "Openembedded:   	Queue for tracking tickets against the OE metadata repository and OE based distributions."
Nov 14 21:07:00 <vanguard> Options are Find and Commit
Nov 14 21:07:01 <dcordes> or what do you mean?
Nov 14 21:07:29 <vanguard> Oh yes, I see.
Nov 14 21:07:39 <vanguard> Very tricky.....
Nov 14 21:07:52 <dcordes> yes indeed- As I said. Had the exact problem
Nov 14 21:08:03 <vanguard> There should be a line "angstrom"
Nov 14 21:08:44 * dcordes is away for some medieval british poetry stuff
Nov 14 21:08:58 * hrw builds ettercap-ng
Nov 14 21:09:31 <vanguard> And I am reporting some bugs.
Nov 14 21:10:33 <dcordes> vanguard, remember that "usb gadget" is already there
Nov 14 21:11:45 <vanguard> Yes, I want to report the "white keys" problem.,
Nov 14 21:12:00 <vanguard> And adding the improved file.
Nov 14 21:14:34 <hrw> dcordes: does ettercap-ng replace ettercap?
Nov 14 21:19:03 <vanguard> hrw: what does it mean in bugreport "Choose an opponent "
Nov 14 21:19:19 <dcordes> hrw, I don't think anybody who's looking for ettercap will use ettercap instead of ettercap-ng. So yes. It's pretty much replacing it but I am not 100% sure if there are any functions in the old version, that possibly were dropped in the new version
Nov 14 21:19:22 <vanguard> hrw: What do I have to do ? Enter an address ?
Nov 14 21:19:29 <dcordes> I didn't deal much with the program yet
Nov 14 21:19:47 <hrw> vanguard: enter subject and description - thats important
Nov 14 21:19:50 <vanguard> dcordes: ettercap is replaced by ettercap-ng.
Nov 14 21:20:42 <vanguard> hrw: I filled out Summary and Description.
Nov 14 21:21:13 <hrw>  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5), libpcre0 (>= 4.4), libssl0.9.7 (>= 0.9.7g), libcrypto0.9.7 (>= 0.9.7g), ncurses (>= 5.4), gtk+ (>= 2.10.14), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.2.3), libgpg-error0 (>= 1.4), libxinerama1 (>= 1.0.2), libxrandr2 (>= 1.2.1), libxext6 (>= 1.0.3), libxcursor1 (>= 1.1.8), libxfixes3 (>= 4.0.3), pango (>= 1.18.1), libcairo2 (>= 1.4.10), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.1), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libexpat1 (>= 2.0.0), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.20), libxrender1 ...
Nov 14 21:21:20 <hrw> thats ethercap-ng now
Nov 14 21:21:22 <hrw> ... (>= 0.9.2), libx11-6 (>= 1.1.2), libxau6 (>= 1.0.3), libxdmcp6 (>= 1.0.2), libatk-1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0), libglib-2.0-0 (>= 2.14.1), libpcap0.9 (>= 0.9.6), libz1 (>= 1.2.3), libltdl3 (>= 1.5.10), libgcc1 (>= 4.1.2) 
Nov 14 21:21:38 <hrw> some deps are missing in recipe and some should be disabled
Nov 14 21:23:45 <vanguard> hrw: No I miss "Did not match to anything". 
Nov 14 21:24:06 <dcordes> hrw, feel free to edit :-D it's a gpl recipe
Nov 14 21:24:06 <hrw> vanguard: bugzilla has help system
Nov 14 21:24:12 <dcordes> thanks for looking at it
Nov 14 21:24:13 <hrw> dcordes: gpl?
Nov 14 21:24:16 <hrw> dcordes: its MIT
Nov 14 21:24:22 <vanguard> I feel it difficult, really.
Nov 14 21:24:26 <dcordes> oh. I mean the recipe itself. You can edit it
Nov 14 21:24:33 <hrw> recipe is MIT
Nov 14 21:24:40 <hrw> OE metadata is MIT licensed
Nov 14 21:24:54 <dcordes> oops :) didn't know
Nov 14 21:25:18 <hrw> dcordes: there is license file ;D
Nov 14 21:25:18 <dcordes> why is the metadata not released under the gpl?
Nov 14 21:25:35 <hrw> MIT allows companies to not give back
Nov 14 21:26:33 <Crofton> also, the meta data does not get distributed
Nov 14 21:26:49 <dcordes> so for example, if I make Lukas company of evil cell phones, I can use all OE metadata, edit it and I am not forced to redistribute that changed metadata?
Nov 14 21:27:58 <hrw> yes
Nov 14 21:27:59 <vanguard> I will make it tomorrow. Fucking stuff !
Nov 14 21:30:10 <vanguard> Guys, I am disconnecting now. Thanks for your help anyway. Tomorrow I will report the bugs and send the improved files.
Nov 14 21:30:35 <hrw> ok
Nov 14 21:31:04 <vanguard> Have a nice day/night. Bye all ! :)
Nov 14 21:31:20 <hrw> sweet dreams vanguard 
Nov 14 21:31:26 <dcordes> gnite
Nov 14 21:31:35 <vanguard> same to you ! and..........................
Nov 14 21:31:42 <vanguard> ..................gone !
Nov 14 21:36:48 <dcordes> hrw, does etter work for you?
Nov 14 21:37:22 <hrw> I do not test working
Nov 14 21:37:26 <hrw> I test building
Nov 14 21:42:02 <dcordes> It actually works. Tested it on akita- but some dependencies did not install - had to install them manually from the feeds (I think libpcap and libnet) and install the ettercap-ng package with --force-depends
Nov 14 22:31:47 <dcordes> bye
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