**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 03 02:59:56 2007 Dec 03 06:29:16 hi all Dec 03 06:29:38 if anyone's interested, I've made packages for compiling for the Atmel AVR microprocessors Dec 03 08:22:45 hrw|gone: ping Dec 03 08:23:12 or XorA|gone, or mickeyl Dec 03 08:24:40 morning Dec 03 08:27:14 hi summatusmentis & hrw Dec 03 08:27:19 hi cofeineSunshine Dec 03 08:27:26 stupid tab complete Dec 03 08:27:29 hi CoreDump Dec 03 08:28:06 hrw: angstrom-coreteam@linuxtogo.org bounced back, so I followed the instructions for being a mentor on the angstrom site, and sent a message to the dev list Dec 03 08:33:49 angstrom-distro-coreteam@ Dec 03 08:34:12 ok, should i resend? I already sent it to the dev list :-/ Dec 03 08:34:29 I replied also there Dec 03 08:34:32 ok Dec 03 08:34:57 so is it necessary to sent it to coreteam? Dec 03 08:35:52 no Dec 03 08:36:18 alright, thanks :-) I'm completely open to any co-mentorship also, mimecar had been doing some work on the 5500 Dec 03 08:53:11 summatusmentis: to which list did you send your message? I can't seem to find it Dec 03 08:54:45 CoreDump: sent it to the angstrom-distro-devel Dec 03 08:54:47 list Dec 03 08:56:13 ah, thanks. It shows up in the web-interface but not im inbox for some reason Dec 03 08:56:56 maybe my grey-listing is delaying it a little bit too much ;) Dec 03 08:57:31 lol, maybe Dec 03 09:20:12 hello Dec 03 09:22:32 i want to add gtk+-directfb into oe.but when i added it, error reported when gtk+ compiling. Dec 03 09:22:54 it said that "cairo is not for that backend." Dec 03 09:23:06 i need to recompile cairo for that. Dec 03 09:23:28 any similar case and solution? Dec 03 09:25:24 hrw: not to be annoying, but I got a bounce from the devel lists saying that my message type was not explicitly allowed, probably because of the S/MIME thing that OpenPGP did, should I resend? Dec 03 09:25:37 readon: whats wrong with gtk+-directfb_2.10.14.bb already in OE? Dec 03 09:26:48 summatusmentis: pgp signed were ok Dec 03 09:27:30 XorA: there is one already? i have not check out for several days. does Angstrom changes as time flew? Dec 03 09:27:42 readon: its been there a few months Dec 03 09:28:43 packages/gtk+/gtk+-directfb_2.10.14.bb Dec 03 09:31:04 i will check it first Dec 03 09:32:58 hrw: well, I don't compose in HTML, so I assume it had something to do with the MIME type Dec 03 09:33:50 XorA: i can't check it right now, would you please send me one? Dec 03 09:34:44 browse tree in openembedded website have bug on gtk+ entry. Dec 03 09:50:04 hrmm, oops, I guess it doent like + in a path name :-) Dec 03 09:50:13 readon: do you not have an mtn checkout? Dec 03 09:51:13 XorA: i know in url it is ...\gtk%3B Dec 03 09:51:44 XorA, it would be a extremely long time for that ... Dec 03 09:54:55 readon, but you obviously have a checkout because your compiling Dec 03 10:42:12 hi! Dec 03 10:56:35 XorA: ya, i have one^^ Dec 03 11:04:42 readon: well gtk+-directfb has been in OE for 3 months now so you should have it Dec 03 11:09:47 XorA: ok, i would try it first. Dec 03 11:10:48 XorA: do you know how to make it recalc the dependency of dynamic packages, as gdk-pixbuf-loader* Dec 03 11:14:54 rebuild the package Dec 03 11:16:10 preferred version 2.10.14 of gtk+-directfb not available (for item gdk-pixbuf-loader-png) Dec 03 11:16:38 but this is reported when i cleaned the gtk+ and rebuild the image Dec 03 11:17:10 readon: you need to debug why it thinks it cant build gtk+-directfb Dec 03 11:17:19 i checked the gtk+ recipe, there isn't any directfb related info in it. Dec 03 11:18:56 readon: youll have to ask svolpe, he created gtk+-directfb Dec 03 11:19:26 i did not find any materials in how to debug recipe in manual Dec 03 11:25:57 Hello there Dec 03 11:26:38 so, md5 has been broken huh :\ Dec 03 11:29:05 I've been reading Angstrom manual... and I don't understand Task base very well Dec 03 11:29:41 so... where are all those modules listed in order to add them or not (I mean usbhost, etc... ) Dec 03 11:30:04 ffc: Most likely in the kernel bb, from memory Dec 03 11:31:56 nder packages? Dec 03 11:40:14 thanks, i think I've found it Dec 03 12:07:12 If I understood well, task base needs a feature in both DISTRO and MACHINE in order to be included? Dec 03 12:07:41 I mean, pcmcia needs to be added to DISTRO and MACHINE FEATURES to have pcmcia support... Dec 03 12:17:27 ffc: depends on the feature. some are machine-only, some are distro-only and some are combined-features. Dec 03 12:18:31 ahhh, I see Dec 03 12:19:11 so, for example, If I need to add IPv6 support, should it be a MACHINE-only feature? nad what about MIPv6? Dec 03 12:19:56 why would ipv6 be related to the machine? it's not hardware-specific is it? Dec 03 12:20:16 I guess it depends on the kernel. Dec 03 12:20:23 ohh. you're right Dec 03 12:20:56 so, as kernel is distro dependant.... it would be a DISTRO-only feature Dec 03 12:20:58 I'd suggest an email to the list describing what you want to do and asking for advice. Dec 03 12:21:08 well, I did Dec 03 12:21:14 hmm - kernel is not really distro-dependent Dec 03 12:21:46 I'm working on a project that needs MIPv6 support on an Angstrom distro Dec 03 12:22:10 I sent an email to the list, but still no answer Dec 03 12:22:21 so I was trying with IRC :-) Dec 03 12:22:52 I'm new to OpenEmbedded/bitbake so everything seems a bit confusing to me Dec 03 12:23:12 ipv6 is distro stuff Dec 03 12:23:36 so is mipv6, then? Dec 03 12:26:30 mipv6 is part of ipv6 iirc Dec 03 12:30:43 so, if I add on DISTRO_FEATURES (include/angstrom.inc if I remember well) "ipv6" I would get an Angstrom distro with Ipv6/MIpv6 support (so mip6 user tools would work) Dec 03 12:32:46 if machine kernel supports ipv6 Dec 03 12:33:58 then, it would be needed to change defconfig- file to support Ipv6 Dec 03 13:57:31 * koen updates http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ Dec 03 13:59:14 koen: restart autobuilder Dec 03 14:01:57 hrw: it runs in a loop, so it will restart in automagically Dec 03 14:02:14 ah Dec 03 14:02:19 task-base change pushed Dec 03 14:04:04 * koen wonders how often mickeyl looks at oe-private and angstrom-core approval queues Dec 03 14:06:15 * XorA guesses at never :-) Dec 03 14:08:00 summatusmentis: no wonder I couldn't find your mail. The date is set to Nov 20th Dec 03 14:08:45 CoreDump: it was at 20th Dec 03 14:09:12 The conversation earlier sounded like he sent the mail today Dec 03 14:15:05 is anyone using a cf bluetooth card they can recommend, or are they all pretty much generic? Dec 03 14:15:26 all pretty much crap under linux Dec 03 14:15:32 :( Dec 03 14:16:15 they work, but you have to remember to eject them on suspend, use setserial to fiddle the settings, and kick bluez until it vaguely works Dec 03 14:16:23 BT support under linux is terrible Dec 03 14:17:01 well ive no real problems with my usb dongle, but they are a pain because they flap about in the wind. Dec 03 14:21:10 I can only suggest which one to avoid Dec 03 14:24:44 have to go, bye! Dec 03 14:28:08 I use the Linksys USB BT 100 dongle (I have three of them) Dec 03 14:28:29 works perfectly under Linux on Angstrom, SlugOS, OpenWrt, ... Dec 03 14:28:48 but USB, not CF unfortunately. Dec 03 14:42:55 One more question: What's the point of adding Ipv6 Feature to DISTRO_FEATURES if it can be achieved setting CONFIG_IPV6=y in kernel config options? Dec 03 15:30:32 CoreDump: I sent the mail at like, 3am. The date was set to the 20th? Dec 03 15:32:51 CoreDump: looking at the archives, that was a different email, and I was just looking for information at that point Dec 03 15:33:19 I think the devel list bounced my email because of a mime type, or something Dec 03 15:34:37 and looking at it again, the message hrw replied to was also the old message I sent Dec 03 19:41:25 hi Dec 03 19:54:23 CoreDump: ? Dec 03 19:56:42 Hello, I need help with NAND Restore. Does anybody could help me? Dec 03 19:56:55 what do you need? Dec 03 19:57:50 maybe you remember, that after uboot instalation I had to restore NAND. I did it, but still I cant run my SL-C1000 Dec 03 19:58:21 gmad: welcome to the club ;-) Dec 03 19:59:19 I performed all tests for NAND and all are ok, but when I would like turn on Z, nothing happen Dec 03 19:59:27 zero reaction Dec 03 19:59:37 have you press reset ? Dec 03 19:59:42 yes Dec 03 19:59:50 gmad: I never said the club was fun, I just said welcome :-) Dec 03 20:01:01 Zero_Chaos: have you got any constructive opinion? Dec 03 20:01:44 gmad: a buddy of mine is making me a NAND backup so i can restore and hope to fix my akita, but as for now, mine doesn't work either. Dec 03 20:02:02 gmad: quick backlight flash, then the charge light turns off, and nothing.... Dec 03 20:02:45 Zero_Chaos: NAND you can find in many places... Dec 03 20:02:58 mimecar: any idea? Dec 03 20:03:14 you can use trisoft nand backup Dec 03 20:03:16 gmad: I've tried the nand I have found randomly, and the one I tried didn't work. Dec 03 20:03:22 the're instructions on their page Dec 03 20:03:57 mimecar: u-boot guys page? Dec 03 20:04:07 NO Dec 03 20:04:16 trisoft page with a normal nand backup Dec 03 20:04:19 forget uboot Dec 03 20:07:41 you think: ownload the ZIP-file, unzip it and copy into the "Backup_Files" directory of a CF or SD memory card (at least 32 MB). Put the card in the Zaurus, select "Settings", start "Backup Restore" and start "Restore". Dec 03 20:07:44 ??? Dec 03 20:08:02 i don't know all the steps Dec 03 20:08:19 mimecar: you thinka about NAND restore? Dec 03 20:08:27 yes Dec 03 20:09:43 I did it Dec 03 20:21:44 gmad: do the nand restored worked ? checked md5 before flashing? Dec 03 20:29:46 mimecar: I havent md5 for NAND Dec 03 20:30:17 on the trisoft web ? Dec 03 20:31:17 mimecar: I'm going through the process for being the mentor for the 5500 Dec 03 20:31:36 that's a funny task ;) Dec 03 20:31:58 have you think it ? Dec 03 20:32:34 yes from trisoft and from conics Dec 03 20:32:50 gmad: then, restore Dec 03 20:32:59 did you erased uboot before ? Dec 03 20:33:09 how to do it? Dec 03 20:33:39 i thought you did it Dec 03 20:34:00 you must know the erase process, if you mix uboot and nand backup.... Dec 03 20:34:24 somebody said you yesterdar uboot overwriteflash (and nand restore) Dec 03 20:34:41 nand erease in service? Dec 03 20:34:47 mimecar: what do you mean have I thought it? Dec 03 20:35:00 summatusmentis: if you have time to work with zaurus Dec 03 20:35:02 only that Dec 03 20:35:29 gmad: nand restore is a bios program, if you changed bios, somebody is wrong Dec 03 20:35:40 check pdaxrom web site for more instructions Dec 03 20:36:22 mimecar: I think I do, at least, I should Dec 03 20:36:24 mimecar: they didn't put any instructions Dec 03 20:36:46 have you ask on pdaxrom channel or forum ? Dec 03 20:36:53 summatusmentis: then, good luck Dec 03 20:37:06 yes: no response Dec 03 20:37:12 i'm working with collie also, sometimes i'll be able to help you Dec 03 20:37:23 gmad: on OE forums ? Dec 03 20:37:30 mimecar: ok, cool. I knew you had been, that's why I thought I'd let you know Dec 03 20:37:33 No, I didn't Dec 03 20:39:19 summatusmentis: you should work with a kernel patched with sd or mount the system on the cf card Dec 03 20:44:51 is the sd driver not liked currently? Dec 03 20:45:58 something is wrong at all Dec 03 20:46:26 mickey|bbiab: Did you ever get a chance to test the 20071130 poodle images I uploaded? Dec 03 20:46:44 Now I have Restore ... failed format error Dec 03 20:47:04 what it does it mean? Dec 03 20:47:23 gmad: nand restore use bios Dec 03 20:47:32 and you have overwrite with uboot Dec 03 20:48:01 I cant erease nand Dec 03 20:48:15 you must erase uboot Dec 03 20:48:21 ask on the oe forums Dec 03 20:48:23 how to do it? Dec 03 20:48:42 www.oesf.org Dec 03 20:48:54 go into forums and search the pdaxrom subforum Dec 03 20:53:06 ok Dec 04 01:13:01 help Dec 04 01:13:35 is there any distribution is based on angstrom? Dec 04 01:18:42 OpenMoko is one Dec 04 01:19:42 i did not find any relationships of them, from conf files Dec 04 01:27:55 Um, the first line of distro/openmoko.conf is "require conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf Dec 04 01:27:55 " Dec 04 01:28:16 readon: which conf file did you look at? Dec 04 02:10:35 rwhitby: the file in openmoko's svn repository Dec 04 02:11:36 which file? Dec 04 02:19:19 openmoko/trunk/oe/conf/distro/openmoko.conf **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 04 02:59:56 2007