**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 08 02:59:57 2007 Dec 08 03:35:05 hi all Dec 08 04:06:19 are there any known good USB wifi adapters out there that are known to work in angstrom? Dec 08 04:53:55 anybody? Dec 08 06:14:53 hmmm Dec 08 06:14:56 hi Dec 08 06:15:04 hey Dec 08 06:15:14 dcordes, any experience with USB wireless adapters? Dec 08 06:15:24 yep Dec 08 06:15:27 I've got a CF card wifi adapter but I would prefer USB Dec 08 06:15:37 ok Dec 08 06:15:38 dcordes, I should say... any GOOD experience with them? :P Dec 08 06:15:53 in angströöm? Dec 08 06:16:09 I bought a netgear wg111 adapter today... unfoooortunately it's the v3 model which apparently is completely unusable in linux atm :P Dec 08 06:16:09 yeah Dec 08 06:16:26 DaedalusX: try to make it work on your deskto Dec 08 06:16:40 then if you found a working module source, try to make a recipe... Dec 08 06:16:42 dcordes, oh, I've tried that. I mean the chipset is entirely unusable in linux :P Dec 08 06:16:45 or compile it on device Dec 08 06:16:57 DaedalusX: so you want me to suggest a different chipset? Dec 08 06:17:34 dcordes, yeah, could you? I saw the zd1211 or whatever it's called but the drivers for that haven't been compiled for akita yet, nor have the ipw or pretty mucha ny of the other ones I've seen :P Dec 08 06:17:36 I have a ralink rt73 based here Dec 08 06:17:44 which is working just perfect with my recipe Dec 08 06:17:44 I've heard they're good Dec 08 06:17:51 also other ralinks are good Dec 08 06:17:55 yeah Dec 08 06:18:01 there are also atheros ones... zydas Dec 08 06:18:02 well they GPLed their drivers right? Dec 08 06:18:09 yes the serialmonkey one Dec 08 06:18:13 except of the firmware Dec 08 06:18:40 yeah, the zydas ones are the ones I was looking at, but again the drivers haven't been compiled for akita yet... and I can not figure out how to use bitbake worth a damn on my zaurus Dec 08 06:19:20 DaedalusX: zd1211 is i nOE Dec 08 06:19:30 yeah, but I have no idea how to use OE :P Dec 08 06:19:41 DaedalusX: setting up OE for akita is damn easys Dec 08 06:20:12 I tried following the howto on the angstrom site but I'll be damned if it makes any sense to me Dec 08 06:20:24 why wouldn't it?? Dec 08 06:20:38 it mentions the local.conf file... a file I don't have. Dec 08 06:20:39 :P Dec 08 06:21:36 got your zd1211 around or just fixing to get one? Dec 08 06:21:43 just looking at getting one Dec 08 06:21:50 don't make this dependent from the state of the repository Dec 08 06:21:58 existence of metadata is the important point Dec 08 06:22:10 it it's there, what's actually the case- no problem at all Dec 08 06:22:28 poke somebody to upload latest ipk of it Dec 08 06:22:46 but then you need the matching kernel version and are doomed for the rest of your life to be dependent on the angstrom maintainers Dec 08 06:22:49 it's damn hard poking anybody around here :P Dec 08 06:22:54 if you roll your own you can make what you want Dec 08 06:23:01 yeah. I know Dec 08 06:23:11 so what's preventing you from doing it? Dec 08 06:23:29 most folks would rather use the binaries Dec 08 06:23:33 the fact that I can't get bitbake to work on either my desktop or my zaurus because I don't understand what I'm supposed to do? : Dec 08 06:23:35 :P Dec 08 06:23:45 that's nothing more luxuirous then building your own pda distro and packages Dec 08 06:23:58 you don't want bitbake on your zaurus Dec 08 06:24:03 on my zaurus it says I'm missing the bb module for python, and on my desktop it says the CACHE variable isn't set Dec 08 06:24:05 bitbake is the cross compiller Dec 08 06:24:16 ah, gotcha Dec 08 06:24:22 DaedalusX: what did you do yet? Dec 08 06:24:25 on desktop.. Dec 08 06:24:37 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom I followed this to the Step 3 Dec 08 06:24:38 part Dec 08 06:24:45 but there's no local.conf anywhere Dec 08 06:25:13 ok Dec 08 06:25:33 first of all, what's the full path to your OE directory? the path which contains bitbake Dec 08 06:25:40 and org.openembedded.dev Dec 08 06:25:46 I put it in /OE Dec 08 06:26:09 oh wait... I found local.conf.sample... I assume they mean copy that over? Dec 08 06:26:09 hm did you gave the folder normal user rights? Dec 08 06:26:21 I mean yes you can use bitbake as root but what for? Dec 08 06:26:26 I installed it as root Dec 08 06:26:29 what for? Dec 08 06:26:41 better use it as normal user Dec 08 06:26:48 you really don't wanna run BB as root... Dec 08 06:26:53 alright? Dec 08 06:26:59 there you go Dec 08 06:27:01 :P Dec 08 06:27:04 put it in your ~ or such Dec 08 06:27:09 sure Dec 08 06:27:10 and chmod it accordingly Dec 08 06:27:21 I assume you know how Dec 08 06:27:45 yeah I know how Dec 08 06:29:20 now create a file in your ~/OE/org.openembedded.dev/conf/ called local.conf Dec 08 06:29:26 yeah Dec 08 06:29:40 into that you copy the blob in step 3 Dec 08 06:30:04 gotcha Dec 08 06:30:08 great Dec 08 06:30:17 now you have to alter the variables which are defined there Dec 08 06:30:43 /OE in your case has to be replaced with ~/OE Dec 08 06:31:08 easy as that Dec 08 06:31:18 yep... soooo akita for the MACHINE, does the version number in DISTRO matter? Dec 08 06:31:26 once you done that you set your machine type accordingly to what - akita Dec 08 06:31:28 ^^ Dec 08 06:31:42 leave it as 2007.1 for now Dec 08 06:32:03 save that Dec 08 06:32:11 now -very important- we need the source script Dec 08 06:32:30 source-me.txt in step 2 Dec 08 06:32:36 yeah, got that Dec 08 06:33:01 you need to run this in each terminal you want work with bitbake Dec 08 06:33:15 also there you need to alter pathes Dec 08 06:33:49 yeah Dec 08 06:33:52 /OE=~/OE again Dec 08 06:34:02 I know how profiles work and stuff, don't worry Dec 08 06:34:15 PATH=/OE/bitbake-1.8.8/bin:${ORG_PATH} make sure you set the right bitbake path (depends on your version) Dec 08 06:34:19 ok great Dec 08 06:34:32 now you should be set Dec 08 06:34:40 I do MOSTLY know what I'm doing... I think I'm just caught on a bad day :P Dec 08 06:34:45 run your the source script using "soure source-me.txt" Dec 08 06:34:54 anyway, for bitbake, it'll automatically grab bb files right? like portage? Dec 08 06:35:04 yep Dec 08 06:35:18 we will try that now Dec 08 06:35:19 sourced? Dec 08 06:35:42 just run through step 4 Dec 08 06:35:55 if it works you know you've done everything right Dec 08 06:37:23 alright... I'll let you know in a minute Dec 08 06:38:42 somebody here who can give me a hand selecting gumstix components? Dec 08 06:39:12 I need a small audio streaming station with usb and lcd optinal lan Dec 08 06:50:36 wheeeee it's nice compiling this stuff on a dual 3.2 GHz box versus the comparatively sloth-like Zaurus :P Dec 08 06:50:47 dcordes, it seems to be working btw. Dec 08 06:51:32 I had to install diffstat and texi2html but now it's fine. Dec 08 06:52:06 dcordes, will bitbake automatically ipkg stuff up or do I have to do that stuff by hand? Dec 08 06:52:33 haha compilling natively on akita kicks ass, I know that Dec 08 06:53:05 DaedalusX: if your recipe runs fine, you get your ipkg written to ~/build Dec 08 06:53:10 dcordes, for the stuff I do it's decently quick. for autotools based packages the configure script takes foreeeever Dec 08 06:53:40 oh, and ipkg is slow as @#$@. but that's life. Dec 08 06:53:50 I think it's because I've got a lot of packages installed Dec 08 06:53:55 so the status files are huge :P Dec 08 06:54:03 either that or ipkg just sucks. Dec 08 06:54:36 possibly the second ^^ Dec 08 06:54:40 probably Dec 08 06:55:08 dcordes, btw... do you know if overclocking support will ever be enabled for the clamshells? It's got something to do with the LCD clock or something right? Dec 08 06:55:23 build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/ipk is your ipk path Dec 08 06:55:29 images go there build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/images Dec 08 06:55:33 I had overclocking support on it when I got it, with the cacko rom, but I got rid of that pretty quick because... well.. angstrom's cooler :P Dec 08 06:55:35 thanks Dec 08 06:55:57 yes of course cacko pdaxrom and others are losers Dec 08 06:56:07 losers without python as far as I can tell. Dec 08 06:56:10 heheheheheh Dec 08 06:56:16 angstrom is the real sh33t Dec 08 06:56:40 dcordes, btw, how would I go about making a bb file or whatever for the avr-libc packages? Dec 08 06:56:56 it's kind of a weird thought because it'd be for cross compiling a cross compiler. Dec 08 06:57:10 why not Dec 08 06:57:16 read bitbake manual Dec 08 06:57:29 it details .bb syntax Dec 08 06:57:41 k Dec 08 06:57:57 in case you come from gentoo I think it will be easy to understand Dec 08 06:58:07 I do. Dec 08 06:58:12 I'm running gentoo atm actually :P Dec 08 06:58:25 I tried to make a gentoo on my laptop few days ago Dec 08 06:58:33 it takes a loooong time. Dec 08 06:58:46 almost as long as it takes to install a 1 kB package on ipkg Dec 08 06:58:47 har Dec 08 06:58:47 har Dec 08 06:58:48 I just finished the x86 quick setup guide Dec 08 06:58:48 har Dec 08 06:58:48 . Dec 08 06:59:05 dcordes, what stage did you start on? Dec 08 06:59:09 created fs Dec 08 06:59:12 do what the pros do: stage 3 all the way :P Dec 08 06:59:17 uuh latest i686 stage 3? Dec 08 06:59:18 then you just re-emerge everything. Dec 08 06:59:26 ah, alright, so you did it the smart way Dec 08 06:59:32 from 12-4 Dec 08 06:59:36 the first time I did it I did stage 1 because I was a nub. Dec 08 06:59:40 I did it the quick setup way Dec 08 06:59:45 yeah Dec 08 06:59:50 I honestly really like gentoo Dec 08 06:59:55 unfortunately my rootfs (reiser on) does only mount ro Dec 08 06:59:57 I've never had anything seriously break on it. Dec 08 07:00:03 yikes Dec 08 07:00:09 *reiser one Dec 08 07:00:22 wow... how old is this harddrive? :P Dec 08 07:00:23 errr Dec 08 07:00:25 laptop I mean Dec 08 07:00:31 that you have reiser1 on it Dec 08 07:00:34 it has many badblocks Dec 08 07:00:59 let me restate Dec 08 07:01:12 the rootfs is a reiserfs partition Dec 08 07:01:15 plau Dec 08 07:01:19 *okay Dec 08 07:01:19 :P Dec 08 07:01:20 plau? Dec 08 07:01:36 my fingers were off by a column on the keyboard. my bad. Dec 08 07:01:55 ~lart DaedalusX Dec 08 07:02:10 oh no where's ibot when you need him Dec 08 07:02:20 WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW Dec 08 07:02:21 anyway. Dec 08 07:02:23 continue. Dec 08 07:02:24 morning! Dec 08 07:02:31 heyas Dec 08 07:02:32 DaedalusX: join #OE, quick! Dec 08 07:02:44 cofeineSunshine1: good morning Dec 08 07:02:54 dcordes, are you going to do something horrible to me with ibot? :P Dec 08 07:03:37 dcordes, so anyway... I'm surprised you're having trouble with reiser Dec 08 07:03:43 I assume you mean reiser3 by the way Dec 08 07:03:57 I don't know I suspect my fstab to be faulty Dec 08 07:03:58 not reiser4 which is horridly supported and you'd be an idiot to use. :P Dec 08 07:04:12 did I say reiser 4? Dec 08 07:04:20 no Dec 08 07:04:27 I'm just making sure you mean Reiser3 Dec 08 07:04:44 you have to watch out for the flags in /etc/fstab Dec 08 07:04:45 the reiserfs which is used by mkfsreiserfs or so Dec 08 07:04:51 in gentoo Dec 08 07:05:00 like if you accidentally use noatime or something like taht with reiser I remember it really screws things up Dec 08 07:05:08 DaedalusX: what would my flags want to look right in order to mount right? Dec 08 07:05:23 I honestly don't know. I haven't used reiser for a while Dec 08 07:05:30 mainly because I used to have weird problems with it Dec 08 07:05:35 even before I switched to gentoo Dec 08 07:05:49 I'm on noobuntu Dec 08 07:06:13 I've got a few friends on ubuntu who like it Dec 08 07:06:25 but I dunno. I like having everything compiled from scratch Dec 08 07:06:43 I want that too Dec 08 07:06:48 it's pretty difficult to break packages Dec 08 07:07:19 dcordes, do you know if it would be possible to compile glibc with soft-float? Dec 08 07:07:29 for angstrom? Dec 08 07:07:33 and recompile everything with it? Dec 08 07:07:49 kind of a pain but it doesn't look like it's taking that long to compile everything on my desktop here Dec 08 07:08:04 with 6 ghz eh Dec 08 07:08:21 it's a 6600 overclocked to 3.2 GHz each Dec 08 07:08:23 on air cooling :P Dec 08 07:08:29 I must've gotten a good chip. Dec 08 07:08:45 I had a watercooling in my system before Dec 08 07:08:56 I did too... on my thunderbird system Dec 08 07:09:02 it was fun, but it made the thing heavy Dec 08 07:09:06 and I lug my computer around a lot. Dec 08 07:09:09 had a barton here 3200+ Dec 08 07:09:10 back and forth to school Dec 08 07:09:15 to work every once in a while Dec 08 07:09:18 it was a pain Dec 08 07:09:19 same here hehe Dec 08 07:09:25 in a chieftec housing Dec 08 07:10:35 hmmmm well bitbake's pretty stuck now. it's looking for fakeroot_1.7.1.tar.gz but that file doesn't exist. Dec 08 07:10:37 anywhere. :P Dec 08 07:10:43 hell, it's looking in Japan now :P Dec 08 07:11:24 DaedalusX: what are you trying to build? Dec 08 07:11:28 huh... maybe it skipped over Dec 08 07:11:48 it does not proceed if a dependency fails to build Dec 08 07:11:52 the minimal image... just to make sure everything works right. I assume I probably don't have to right? :P Dec 08 07:12:09 or do I actually have to build the entire system Dec 08 07:12:11 can't harm building all the 3 Dec 08 07:12:26 if you build the x11 image you directly have all the gui dependencies Dec 08 07:12:45 in case you want to build something guish later, you don't have to build all that Dec 08 07:13:13 I really just wanna build kernel modules at the moment... something tells me I'm wasting my time then? :P Dec 08 07:13:23 I think it compiled glibc already... Dec 08 07:13:43 remember that you will most likely have to reflash your akita kernel and replace the modules. Dec 08 07:13:58 so you keep up with the metadata you have there on the machine Dec 08 07:14:10 otherwise you would build modules for a kernel you don't have on your target machine Dec 08 07:14:19 yeah, I don't mind. Dec 08 07:14:35 just wanna see if the zydas driver builds? Dec 08 07:14:39 pretty much. Dec 08 07:14:50 then build it Dec 08 07:14:59 it hasn't finished making glibc I don't think though... I don't see an ipkg directory at least Dec 08 07:15:08 and the command line scroll of bitbake isn't very informative Dec 08 07:15:17 it is Dec 08 07:15:35 for more detail you can put verbose bit Dec 08 07:15:38 well it says it's finished configuring stuff... but I don't know if it's actually COMPILED any yet Dec 08 07:15:42 ah, okay Dec 08 07:15:47 maybe it's just all going on in the background Dec 08 07:15:48 of course oyu do Dec 08 07:15:54 it tells you when it starts compilling Dec 08 07:16:02 starting task do_compile... Dec 08 07:16:03 and Dec 08 07:16:08 task do_compile finished... Dec 08 07:16:14 for package blabla Dec 08 07:16:15 and it's still looking for fakeroot. I dunno if it's stufck or... wait now it's doing completely different stuff so I guess it's fine? Dec 08 07:16:28 huh Dec 08 07:16:35 yes if it continues Dec 08 07:16:42 your good to go let it carry on Dec 08 07:17:30 you can just cancel and build the zydas module though Dec 08 07:17:42 it will care for dependencies Dec 08 07:18:03 well it's downloading the kernel atm anyway... might as well let it finish Dec 08 07:18:35 of course just have cafeine or so in that time or make my gentoo work Dec 08 07:18:39 my deploy folder is empty except for an empty "glibc" folder. that seems like a bad sign for some reason Dec 08 07:19:00 it isn't Dec 08 07:19:01 dcordes, so what exactly is wrong with gentoo? just the resier crap? Dec 08 07:19:03 cd glibc Dec 08 07:19:03 ls Dec 08 07:19:09 you will notice ipk and images folders Dec 08 07:19:22 just the rootfs is mounting read only crap Dec 08 07:19:36 I did. it's empty Dec 08 07:20:12 odd Dec 08 07:20:38 maybe you have no package finished yet Dec 08 07:20:46 hmmm.... I guess so Dec 08 07:20:47 did it start off with glibc? Dec 08 07:20:58 it's doing a lot of configuring and not much compiling it looks like :P Dec 08 07:21:00 it would mourn about missing variables or so Dec 08 07:21:06 it hasn't errored out Dec 08 07:21:08 if it wouldn't know where to put your ipks Dec 08 07:21:10 I might just let it go overnight Dec 08 07:23:34 in case you really don't get anything build that would suck Dec 08 07:23:42 built Dec 08 07:23:47 well we'll see Dec 08 07:24:30 just check build/tmp/angstrom/stamps/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ Dec 08 07:25:37 dcordes, btw.. what zydas device do you have? Dec 08 07:25:38 those stamps tell bitbake which parts of the package building process are done yet Dec 08 07:25:45 none Dec 08 07:25:50 I have an rt73 here only Dec 08 07:26:32 ah... right Dec 08 07:27:25 DaedalusX: in case there are open source linux drivers you can pretty much assume you will be able to build it with OE Dec 08 07:27:31 yeah Dec 08 07:27:32 bbiab Dec 08 07:27:34 sure Dec 08 07:28:39 ah... it says it's doing do_package on glibc now Dec 08 07:28:43 so I guess it is working Dec 08 07:35:21 http://ayagroup.com/product.php?productid=16758 this looks good Dec 08 07:40:25 external antenna is useful Dec 08 07:44:25 it says it's a zydas chip Dec 08 07:44:37 and support for linux in kernel 2.6.6 and up Dec 08 07:44:42 I wonder if it actually is :P Dec 08 07:45:08 2.6.6 damn Dec 08 07:45:57 maybe you get a 2.6.63 kernel with it Dec 08 07:46:35 dcordes, 2.6.6 "and up" Dec 08 07:46:36 :P Dec 08 07:47:12 so you can't use it with angstrom :( Dec 08 07:47:23 huh? Dec 08 07:47:29 angstrom's 2.6.23 atm Dec 08 07:47:50 that's pretty far above 2.6.6 :P Dec 08 07:49:02 just get it Dec 08 07:49:44 dcordes, you think it'd work? Dec 08 07:49:53 whatever. I have a job for a reason Dec 08 07:49:56 :P Dec 08 07:50:05 DaedalusX: of course it will work Dec 08 07:50:50 http://www.edimax.nl/nl/produce_detail.php?pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44&pl3_id=88&pd_id=8 that's what I use Dec 08 07:52:09 dcordes, do the external antennas help a lot? Dec 08 07:52:37 my edimax range is way better then every conventional stick I've seen around Dec 08 07:52:46 alright, I'll take your word for it :P Dec 08 07:53:13 I hope you're aware of required extra power to use such device on akita Dec 08 07:53:30 like an external usb battery or a powered hub Dec 08 07:53:30 I have a powered usb hub Dec 08 07:53:34 good Dec 08 07:53:43 actually I'm putting together an external IO box Dec 08 07:53:53 with LAN, bluetooth, wifi, all kinds of stuff Dec 08 07:54:04 useful Dec 08 07:54:24 I've got a 6 Ah pack to power it too :P Dec 08 07:54:27 should last a while :P Dec 08 07:54:35 ah where did you get that? Dec 08 07:54:42 I only had 2A when until you fscked it up Dec 08 07:54:44 sparkfun Dec 08 07:54:51 s/when/one Dec 08 07:55:03 I should mention that that's at 3.7V Dec 08 07:55:04 could you give me a link? Dec 08 07:55:14 if it works for most usb devices... Dec 08 07:55:15 so after stepping it up you're not gonna get that Dec 08 07:55:47 oh i see Dec 08 07:56:04 why didn't you get one with 5v so you don't need to fiddle around with it Dec 08 07:56:55 because they don't make these battery cells in 5v Dec 08 07:57:32 http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8484 Dec 08 07:57:48 http://www.radioshack.com/sm-buy-the-lenmar-5v-2200mah-li-ion-usb-powerport-battery--pi-2553284.html I had this one rebranded Dec 08 07:57:55 consits of 2 LiIo cells Dec 08 07:59:21 shit! Dec 08 07:59:31 I just realized I put the ship to information of my school in the box! Dec 08 07:59:33 fuuuck! Dec 08 07:59:52 you put a ship in a box? Dec 08 08:00:53 DaedalusX: don't understand ^^ Dec 08 08:01:39 I used paypal to pay for it Dec 08 08:01:53 and the last thing I paid for with paypal I had shipped to my address at school Dec 08 08:02:40 nvm just email them to correct this Dec 08 08:03:14 you a teacher or what? Dec 08 08:04:35 nah, college student Dec 08 08:05:31 I'll call them on monday Dec 08 08:05:39 they won't ship it out until at least then anyway Dec 08 08:05:51 whooops Dec 08 08:06:25 how much Ahr will you get with the cells at 5v? Dec 08 08:06:37 well lemme see Dec 08 08:07:35 well if the step up was perfectly efficient it would get you 4.4444 AHr Dec 08 08:08:02 that's still twice as much as my old battery pack and the cells are way cheaper Dec 08 08:08:10 I need a similar solution Dec 08 08:08:23 is it easy to insert the required part for the voltage change? Dec 08 08:08:23 I'm not sure exactly how efficient the step up I looked at making was though Dec 08 08:08:34 up stepper or whatever this is called Dec 08 08:08:48 if you find a dc to dc step up board that'll do enough amps, yeah Dec 08 08:10:02 just found 11.1V / 1.5Ah Dec 08 08:10:53 that's pretty damn good Dec 08 08:10:55 where'd you find that Dec 08 08:11:11 I have some big lithium ion batteries from my old robot project Dec 08 08:11:15 that are huge and powerful Dec 08 08:11:17 but... they're huge. Dec 08 08:11:18 :P Dec 08 08:11:31 http://www1.conrad.de/scripts/wgate/zcop_b2c/~flNlc3Npb249UDkwV0dBVEU6Q19BR0FURTEzOjAwMDAuMDEyNy4zMmYwOGQ2MSZ+aHR0cF9jb250ZW50X2NoYXJzZXQ9aXNvLTg4NTktMSZ+U3RhdGU9Mzk1NjU1NDk0NQ==?~template=PCAT_AREA_S_BROWSE&mfhelp=&p_selected_area=%24ROOT&p_selected_area_fh=&perform_special_action=&glb_user_js=Y&shop=B2C&vgl_artikel_in_index=&product_show_id=&p_page_to_display=DirektSearch&~cookies=1&zhmmh_lfo=&zhmmh_area_kz=&s_haupt_kategorie=&p_searchst Dec 08 08:11:38 whoops sorry Dec 08 08:12:20 that's even the wrong url Dec 08 08:13:14 http://www.produktinfo.conrad.com/datenblaetter/225000-249999/228347-da-01-en-Lithium-Polymer_Akkus_11_1_V_1500mA.pdf that's the english datasheet Dec 08 08:13:25 the trick with lithium polymer batteries (and any lithium ion batteries anyway) is that you need a special charger IC Dec 08 08:13:33 because they need a certain charging profile Dec 08 08:14:56 actually if you look at pg 5 of that sheet you can see the charging profile it wants Dec 08 08:17:18 dcordes, hmmm, I'm trying to bitbake kernel-module-kd1211rw but it says no providers for build target Dec 08 08:17:27 where can I get a list of packages that I can build? Dec 08 08:18:06 DaedalusX: you are not giving the right ${PN} then Dec 08 08:18:35 DaedalusX: your bitbake files are in org.openembedded.dev/packages/ Dec 08 08:18:41 yeah I found em Dec 08 08:18:52 it's that the kd1211 packages are named differently Dec 08 08:18:54 bitbake -b mydriver.bb Dec 08 08:19:14 or bitbake ${PN} Dec 08 08:19:19 that builds latest version of product Dec 08 08:20:04 bitbake zd1211 in your case Dec 08 08:20:16 yeah I got it Dec 08 08:20:21 it won't build for you since the URI is borked Dec 08 08:20:31 *sigh* Dec 08 08:20:31 yeah Dec 08 08:20:35 I know the new address Dec 08 08:20:54 will it freak out if I change the bb file? Dec 08 08:20:57 from the md5sum? Dec 08 08:21:10 I guess I could just make a new bb file Dec 08 08:21:39 try to edit the old one Dec 08 08:21:58 put in new URI with latest source and save it accordingly to the new version number Dec 08 08:22:21 make it build Dec 08 08:22:35 apply your new .bb to bugs.openembedded.org Dec 08 08:25:14 dcordes, hmmm... the zd1211rw driver's included in the kernel source now Dec 08 08:25:45 not in the kernel you build Dec 08 08:25:50 for akita Dec 08 08:26:11 then how do I get it? :P Dec 08 08:26:18 create .bb Dec 08 08:26:56 ... what would I put in it though? Dec 08 08:27:39 don't care about the unslung parts Dec 08 08:27:45 rip them off for now Dec 08 08:27:56 (in case you want a new version) Dec 08 08:28:02 if you find t he source URI for the same revision Dec 08 08:28:14 nononono... there IS no source URI any more Dec 08 08:28:41 because atheros acquistion and shit and new driver? Dec 08 08:28:48 don't mind just look for the r85 source Dec 08 08:29:02 it doesn't exist any more Dec 08 08:29:12 that was the original company's driver I guess but it's been taken over Dec 08 08:29:17 with the zd1211rw driver Dec 08 08:29:31 then make a new recipe from scratchj Dec 08 08:29:36 yeah Dec 08 08:29:44 and new product Dec 08 08:29:50 but how do I tell it to compile just that bit of the kernel? Dec 08 08:29:56 create a folder packages/zd1211rw Dec 08 08:30:16 DaedalusX: you will have to write patches which include the sources Dec 08 08:30:24 you go less complicated by adding up the recipe Dec 08 08:32:04 DaedalusX: give me a link to the new source Dec 08 08:32:05 patch the zd1211rw code files onto the zaurus kernel? Dec 08 08:32:06 I will see Dec 08 08:32:12 DaedalusX: exactly Dec 08 08:32:16 then configure it accordingly Dec 08 08:32:27 dcordes, it's included in the giant kernel code packs. Dec 08 08:32:31 but nobody wants that. make a recipe Dec 08 08:32:32 from kernel.org Dec 08 08:32:34 yeah. Dec 08 08:32:47 that just includes the files for the zd1211rw driver right? Dec 08 08:33:01 DaedalusX: you will still find the source seperate somewhere, won't you? Dec 08 08:33:18 even if it is in the mainline kernel Dec 08 08:33:22 somebody has to develop it Dec 08 08:33:27 yeah Dec 08 08:33:30 I'm looking Dec 08 08:35:11 ah, that's easy enough Dec 08 08:35:41 found it Dec 08 08:35:45 DaedalusX: give me Dec 08 08:37:03 I hope the new driver does not require patching Dec 08 08:37:46 it shouldn't. it's in the mainline kernel code so I assume it'll work with it... unless the zaurus kernel code is significantly different Dec 08 08:39:31 dcordes, how do you want me to send it to you? Dec 08 08:39:43 dcc? email? Dec 08 08:39:43 DaedalusX: when you cross compile that's always a different situation Dec 08 08:40:05 many of the patches in openemebdded are cross compile related Dec 08 08:40:11 yeah Dec 08 08:40:16 like makefile or configure patches Dec 08 08:40:46 DaedalusX: URI will sufice Dec 08 08:41:37 I don't have any hosting space Dec 08 08:41:55 DaedalusX: where did you get the source then? Dec 08 08:42:02 when you have no URI Dec 08 08:42:08 from kernel.org? :P Dec 08 08:42:20 in one of the huge kernel archives :P Dec 08 08:45:09 dcordes, they don't have separate packages for it. Dec 08 08:45:35 how about https://zd1211.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zd1211/trunk ? Dec 08 08:46:03 because that's the deprecated code Dec 08 08:46:15 and isn't being developed any more Dec 08 08:47:56 DaedalusX: ok but you can't tell me there is no seperate source of the rewrite Dec 08 08:48:38 http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download <--- there seems to be this Dec 08 08:48:47 but that includes a lot of other stuff Dec 08 08:48:53 and I'm not sure what the difference is Dec 08 08:49:58 This package is updated daily. It reflects the latest on wireless-2.6.git 'everything' branch. Dec 08 08:50:02 sounds good doesn't it? Dec 08 08:50:19 so that's our SRC_URI we start from Dec 08 08:50:19 ahhhh you know what it is? Dec 08 08:50:35 it's allllll of the stuff that this group is putting into the kernel Dec 08 08:50:40 okay Dec 08 08:50:47 that's all of them Dec 08 08:50:51 ok so we don't want that Dec 08 08:51:09 no. the zd1211rw folder's in that package though Dec 08 08:51:45 /compat-wireless-2.6/drivers/net/wireless/zd1211rw/ Dec 08 08:51:50 yep Dec 08 08:52:14 you just have to specify the workdir then Dec 08 08:52:17 inside the .bb Dec 08 08:52:21 actually this package will be really useful... it's also got the mac80211 stuff in there too Dec 08 08:52:23 alright Dec 08 08:52:37 is that relative to the root directory of the package I assume? Dec 08 08:53:03 the $WORKDIR? Dec 08 08:53:10 I don't know this from top of the head Dec 08 08:53:40 I'll look at the bitbake manual Dec 08 08:54:15 or in OE manual Dec 08 08:54:40 the source goes to build/tmp/angstrom/work/blabla Dec 08 08:55:11 because it's a kernel module and machine specific it will go to build/tmp/angstrom/work/akita-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ Dec 08 08:55:29 then you have a direcotry called workdir and inside that the source gets extracted Dec 08 08:55:31 yeah Dec 08 08:55:53 and because the sourcedir ${S} is not the root of the tarball Dec 08 08:55:57 you have to specify that Dec 08 08:56:04 so bitbake knows where it wants to work Dec 08 08:56:49 to avoid this you prefer a direct source for the product Dec 08 08:57:13 yeah. I don't think there is one though Dec 08 08:57:19 then you have to drive that way Dec 08 09:00:25 DaedalusX: try to set S = "${WORKDIR}/compat-wireless-2.6/drivers/net/wireless/zd1211rw/ Dec 08 09:00:51 I'm a step ahead of you :) Dec 08 09:01:08 just making sure I don't have to do anything else for the do_compile or do_install bits Dec 08 09:01:28 try Dec 08 09:01:35 see if it builds Dec 08 09:01:37 then you know more Dec 08 09:09:06 hmmm Dec 08 09:12:20 do_compile failed... the makefile in that directory doesn't actually make kernel modules Dec 08 09:14:38 I guess you want to use a different source then Dec 08 09:14:58 want to build the current source from the maindir altering the makefile to only build you a zd module Dec 08 09:15:37 or look for a very obsolete and old but working r85 source of the original driver, replacing the old and obsolete SRC_URI in the present recipe Dec 08 09:16:00 I guess I could make a Makefile patch for it or something Dec 08 09:16:06 it's 4:15 in the morning here though Dec 08 09:16:11 I should probably go to sleep :P Dec 08 09:16:21 that's what I mean Dec 08 09:16:34 create a Makefile patch to only build you a zd module Dec 08 09:17:38 DaedalusX: but that's not so elegant. what I'm also thinking is not so good about that source is that it is changing all the time Dec 08 09:18:03 for OE you rather want a source that stays as it is and create a recipe for the actual verison Dec 08 09:18:09 so you can make sure it is working Dec 08 09:18:23 yeah Dec 08 09:18:27 but I don't have any hosting space. Dec 08 09:18:28 and not requiring patches every day when they decide to implent changes that make the cross compile file Dec 08 09:18:44 is there any place where we COULD host it? Dec 08 09:18:57 I have none either Dec 08 09:19:24 but maybe there is some place where you can get that driver seperately in different versions Dec 08 09:19:54 have to leave now sorry Dec 08 09:20:01 so do I Dec 08 09:20:04 I'll talk to you later Dec 08 09:20:08 thanks for your help Dec 08 09:20:16 and you better get some sleep until you start fighting against evil .bb files Dec 08 09:20:20 hah Dec 08 09:20:21 no problem at all Dec 08 09:20:22 cya Dec 08 09:20:24 bye Dec 08 11:55:15 hi Dec 08 11:55:42 on swisscom wp50 is the audio working yet ? Dec 08 12:29:06 good morning Dec 08 13:23:37 I am having a problem with AngstromOpie-t650 and cocoboot-0.4 after the boot scripts run it fails to go to the calibration screen it just goes black and the screen appears to freeze I have left it on that scren for 10+min with no change wondering if any body has any idea as to why this is happening Dec 08 13:23:57 or how to fix Dec 08 14:04:48 infurnus: what's the image you installed (date) ? Dec 08 14:11:32 22.04.2007 Dec 08 14:11:47 Angstrom Opie .1 testing fro treo 650 Dec 08 14:11:53 is the lastest image ? Dec 08 14:12:30 i haven't been able to find any other downloads that are ext2 format it appears i have to build one Dec 08 14:12:41 since i have never done that im getting everything setup and installed to attempt Dec 08 14:13:07 have you wifi or usbnet working ? Dec 08 14:13:29 its like a live cd when it boots Dec 08 14:13:31 its not flashed Dec 08 14:13:46 i know that process Dec 08 14:15:12 no wifi Dec 08 14:15:24 if i plug it in via usb when its booting output from dmesg isnt pretty Dec 08 14:16:58 http://pastebin.com/d3636d6dc Dec 08 14:18:55 it doesn't sound good Dec 08 14:19:31 i get the open embedded boot screen the led's go off it vibrates Dec 08 14:19:39 once i saw the calibration screen but i havent since Dec 08 14:20:01 ive tried mem=32M psplash=false on the command line for swap and to look for errors Dec 08 14:20:09 but i cant read as fast as it boots XD Dec 08 14:20:13 can you boot with console image ? Dec 08 14:20:41 forgive my ignorance what do you mean? Dec 08 14:20:57 there are thre images type on angstrom Dec 08 14:21:01 minimal, console and x11 Dec 08 14:21:13 if you can't boot on x11, test the console image Dec 08 14:21:22 thefirst is boot, after run x11 Dec 08 14:21:25 hm ok i think this is the part where i need to build one Dec 08 14:21:49 it should exist console image on angstrom web Dec 08 14:22:47 i see quite a few not the manuf of my device...shall i just pick one? Dec 08 14:23:23 can you write again the sentence, I can't understand you Dec 08 14:24:48 I see the different manufactures of different devices and architectures but i do not see any that resemble the Palm devices. Are all these x-scale ARM roms? or are they built specific for devices? Dec 08 14:25:40 each device has it's own build Dec 08 14:25:59 i don't know if palm version is on the angstrom web Dec 08 14:26:18 have you check hackndev web ? they're working with palm and linux Dec 08 14:26:28 yeah Dec 08 14:26:35 i have also checked with shadowmite Dec 08 14:26:43 your the only person who has responded to my problem Dec 08 14:26:47 lol Dec 08 14:27:29 well, thanks for the information and clearing things up for me Dec 08 14:28:03 i haven't played with palm devices Dec 08 14:28:10 with angstrom Dec 08 14:28:41 yeah their minimal devices i dont blame you lol Dec 08 14:30:47 you can build yourself an image Dec 08 14:30:57 but that's not a trivial process Dec 08 15:52:06 hey Dec 08 15:52:13 i got ipaq h2200 Dec 08 15:52:19 :) Dec 08 15:52:20 connected to PC via USB cable Dec 08 15:52:47 if I set IP adress of usb0 device on PC, it disapears;/ Dec 08 15:52:56 if i set it on ipaq side, it keeps Dec 08 15:53:08 and i try to ping from ipaq Dec 08 15:53:41 if write ifconfig usb0 192.168.66.254 on pc very fast Dec 08 15:53:46 i can see a ping reply Dec 08 15:54:05 but only as long, as i keep setting IP on PC Dec 08 15:54:06 ;/ Dec 08 15:54:40 you must set ip on pc side Dec 08 15:55:09 mimecar, i did that Dec 08 15:55:13 but it disapeard Dec 08 15:55:20 on reboot ? Dec 08 15:55:26 and if i repeatedly seting that IP Dec 08 15:55:29 ir works Dec 08 15:55:50 nope, just like this: "ifconfig usb0 192.168.66.254" Dec 08 15:57:19 then you muast assign IP 2 times? Dec 08 15:57:34 i do it, on ipaq and on PC Dec 08 15:57:44 on ipaq it keeps, but on PC it disapeard Dec 08 15:57:57 *disapears Dec 08 15:57:59 I must do the same with my wifi card on my laptop Dec 08 15:59:42 it disapeard Dec 08 15:59:43 ;/ Dec 08 15:59:57 as long as i keel setting it, i can ping Dec 08 16:10:13 something is wrong, when i set IP address Dec 08 16:11:14 i can't help you cofeineSunshine, soory Dec 08 16:12:08 np Dec 08 16:37:17 i found my MACHINE conf file but i pasted this in local.conf and it tells me the machine is incorrect do i paste the contents of palmt650.conf inside of local.conf or how do i associate the two Dec 08 16:37:47 you must change architecture value Dec 08 16:37:49 on local.conf Dec 08 16:38:13 just to palmt650 ? Dec 08 16:38:22 or the contents of the palmt650.conf file? Dec 08 16:40:10 only the name Dec 08 16:40:45 ok Dec 08 17:15:12 so i want to build a new kernel image for my zaurus. anyone know which kernel package i need to build? Dec 08 17:15:28 just the linux-2.6.23? Dec 08 17:20:55 or is there some easier way to just rebuild a module? Dec 08 17:27:15 (ah, looks like linux-rp-2.6.23) Dec 08 18:34:28 !logs Dec 08 18:34:29 Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at: Dec 08 18:34:30 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom Dec 08 18:34:31 Live-logs are available at Dec 08 18:34:33 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog Dec 08 18:34:35 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Dec 08 18:36:58 good morining all :) Dec 08 21:41:53 hi all Dec 08 21:41:56 dcordes, you around? Dec 08 21:42:25 yep Dec 08 21:43:33 trying to bitbake that package fails out because it can't find the mach_mpspec.h file from the kernel source :( Dec 08 21:43:46 which is made when you run "make prepare" in the kernel directory Dec 08 21:44:13 Is there now single driver which is stable enough? Dec 08 21:44:29 no. I'm just compiling all of them at once. Dec 08 22:00:20 dcordes: word to ya' homie. Dec 08 22:11:22 DaedalusX, sorry connection died Dec 08 22:28:20 dcordes_: hi buddy Dec 08 22:28:54 Zero_Chaos, helas Dec 08 22:29:15 dcordes_: I figured out my main issue... updater.sh doesn't work atm. Dec 08 22:29:55 as in your device is at the moment not capable to update or the current version of updater.sh is borked? Dec 08 22:30:12 dcordes_: number 2 Dec 08 22:31:04 so good old version works for you? Dec 08 22:32:40 dcordes_: correct, stick with the old working version for now. Dec 08 22:33:36 I'm happy your akita is working again Dec 08 22:33:47 dcordes_: I am happier than you ;-) Dec 08 22:34:12 do you have a working gpe? Dec 08 22:35:14 well, yes... but I didn't have to do anything special, it does work. Dec 08 22:35:44 I got used to kdrive anyway ^^ Dec 08 22:35:52 dunno what that is. Dec 08 22:36:45 xserver-kdrive Dec 08 22:37:20 I replaced xorg with it when I was not able to log into the gpe session Dec 08 22:37:55 hmm, dunno, never had that issue Dec 08 22:56:28 dcordes_, do you know which bitbake file is used for the angstrom kernel? Dec 08 22:56:47 DaedalusX: for akita? Dec 08 22:56:53 yeah Dec 08 22:57:18 DaedalusX: org...dev/packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.23.bb Dec 08 22:57:33 thanks Dec 08 23:01:25 Zero_Chaos, how would I go about making the bitbake file compile a new module which I added to the defconfig file? Dec 08 23:01:31 does it do it and it's just hidden somewhere? Dec 08 23:01:48 DaedalusX: if you add it to defconfig, it will do it. Dec 08 23:01:55 alright Dec 08 23:02:05 DaedalusX: but you have to add it to packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.23/defconfig-akita Dec 08 23:02:13 it didn't put together a kernel-module-* ipk for it though... any way to do that? Dec 08 23:02:17 Zero_Chaos, yeah I figured that out Dec 08 23:02:34 DaedalusX: it will automatically do that, if you edit the right defconfig ;-) Dec 08 23:03:11 Zero_Chaos, alright.. lemme try doing that again then. maybe I just did it in the wrong order :P Dec 08 23:03:22 DaedalusX: bitbake -c rebuild virtual/kernel (after editing defconfig-akita) Dec 08 23:03:31 virtual/kernel? Dec 08 23:03:40 is that the catchall? Dec 08 23:03:57 DaedalusX: that just means it picks the version/etc automatically, it's fine Dec 08 23:04:36 thanks.... with any luck....... Dec 08 23:10:10 Zero_Chaos, hmmm... obviously I'm missing some depends or something for the CONFIG_ZD1211RW flag Dec 08 23:10:15 because it didn't build the module Dec 08 23:10:29 kinda hard to figure out what flags you need without being able to make config or anything :P Dec 08 23:10:41 ah well... I'll do it on my desktop's kernel code Dec 08 23:10:45 it should be the same flags right? Dec 08 23:11:02 DaedalusX: okay, crash course. "bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel" then it saves the .config in tmp/work/.../ Dec 08 23:11:13 DaedalusX: copy that .config to defconfig-akita and -c rebuild Dec 08 23:13:02 which tmp/work directory? sorry... I don't see it Dec 08 23:13:15 tmp/work/akita/keep_looking/ Dec 08 23:13:26 oh... my bad... I didn't see the -c menuconfig Dec 08 23:13:33 Zero_Chaos, no need to get snappy :P Dec 08 23:13:46 DaedalusX: wasn't, just figured it was obvious from there. Dec 08 23:15:41 hold on... I'll be right back Dec 08 23:23:30 back Dec 08 23:29:07 Zero_Chaos, alright.... I've got the .config file. I just copy it over the defconfig-akita file right? Dec 08 23:29:16 correct Dec 08 23:30:02 in the packages/linux/linux-rpblahblahblah folder or in the work folder? Dec 08 23:30:24 1st one Dec 08 23:30:29 the work folder is transient Dec 08 23:30:39 alright Dec 08 23:31:06 DaedalusX: are you enabling the ieee80211 or the mac80211 driver? Dec 08 23:31:14 both. as modules. Dec 08 23:31:26 it should be fine. I've got both on my desktop here Dec 08 23:31:41 DaedalusX: which do you use? Dec 08 23:32:14 the zd1211rw driver will use the mac80211 driver if it exists Dec 08 23:32:20 so it loads that one up Dec 08 23:32:28 it'll also work with the softmac code Dec 08 23:33:01 DaedalusX: okay, just curious, because I have the mac80211 loaded, but I've not gotten to that chipset to test yet. Dec 08 23:33:24 I'm building all the modules atm to hopefull have them stuck into the repository if they work... most of these drivers have only been compiled for tosa or a couple other devices Dec 08 23:33:51 Zero_Chaos, well I'll let you know how it goes. Supposedly they've had good luck on the arm devices Dec 08 23:35:15 DaedalusX: I've built a lot of wifi drivers for my akita, just have not tested them all yet (because of issues with my favorite) Dec 08 23:35:20 excellent! the modules compiled and packed up Dec 08 23:35:37 happy birthday Dec 08 23:35:41 hah Dec 08 23:36:20 thanks for helping me out with bitbake... I just installed it yesterday so I'm still kinda poking around with it Dec 08 23:36:32 no problem, there is a lot to learn. Dec 08 23:36:57 Zero_Chaos, btw... what was the issue with overclocking the clamshells under 2.6? was it something to do with the LCD clock or have the drivers just not been tested enough yet? Dec 08 23:37:10 I know that it's different now that they do graphics on the chip Dec 08 23:37:13 or something Dec 08 23:38:50 worked fine under cacko for me... at least.. mostly fine. a little bit of weirdness with the screen but I was told that that was because of the LCD clock speed being thrown off Dec 08 23:40:16 brb again Dec 08 23:41:10 back Dec 08 23:45:12 DaedalusX: I've never overclocked anything in my life. Ever. Dec 08 23:45:28 Zero_Chaos, really? why not? Dec 08 23:45:40 never felt the need? Dec 08 23:45:59 DaedalusX: never thought my hardware was that replacable Dec 08 23:50:48 Zero_Chaos, I've never ever had anything that I've overclocked fail. Dec 08 23:51:26 the danger really isn't that great. generally your hardware will just stop working long before you reach an overclock that is actually damaging Dec 08 23:52:09 I've been running my E6600 Core 2 Duo on my desktop at 3.2 GHz since February and it's perfect. Dec 08 23:54:00 E6750 ftw Dec 08 23:54:11 non overclocked! Dec 08 23:58:41 Zero_Chaos, well once ipkg finishes installing the modules *groan* we'll see if the modules load :) Dec 09 01:43:37 does anybody know why this would happen and what this means im building an X11-image for a palmt650 Dec 09 01:43:37 NOTE: package linux-hackndev-2.6-2.6.21-hnd3-r12: task do_fetch: failed Dec 09 01:43:37 ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting Dec 09 01:43:37 NOTE: package linux-hackndev-2.6-2.6.21-hnd3: failed Dec 09 01:43:37 ERROR: Build of /OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-hackndev-2.6_git.bb do_fetch failed Dec 09 01:43:38 ERROR: Task 431 (/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-hackndev-2.6_git.bb, do_fetch) failed Dec 09 01:43:40 NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 906 tasks of which 0 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. Dec 09 01:43:42 ERROR: '/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-hackndev-2.6_git.bb' failed Dec 09 01:44:00 it means that it failed to download the files for it, I think Dec 09 01:44:07 (thus the "do_fetch") Dec 09 01:44:23 just try it again... it might find it this time Dec 09 01:44:29 kk Dec 09 01:44:49 or the file just might not exist any more :P Dec 09 01:45:00 ah that would suck Dec 09 01:45:08 it's happened :P Dec 09 01:45:21 yeah same error Dec 09 01:45:42 open that bb file and see what the URI_SRC is pointing at Dec 09 01:45:46 errr Dec 09 01:45:48 SRC_URI Dec 09 01:47:18 SRC_URI = "git://git.hackndev.com/git/linux-hnd;protocol=http \ Dec 09 01:47:18 file://defconfig" Dec 09 01:50:07 ah. do you have git installed? Dec 09 01:50:22 yes Dec 09 01:50:31 hmmm Dec 09 01:50:32 which git /usr/bin/git Dec 09 01:50:37 my machine is in the list at the top of compatible ones also Dec 09 01:50:59 when it said it failed it should have told you that a log was made of why it failed Dec 09 01:52:22 ok something weird when i ran bitbake x11-image Dec 09 01:52:33 ERROR: No providers of build target X11-image (for []) Dec 09 01:53:16 im trying console-image now Dec 09 01:53:58 error: pick-rref: HEAD not found Dec 09 01:53:58 No such ref HEAD at http://git.hackndev.com/git/linux-hnd Dec 09 01:53:58 NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: Dec 09 01:54:12 same error no mention of a log Dec 09 01:54:30 well that's strange. HEAD is in that folder. Dec 09 01:55:10 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found Dec 09 01:55:10 19:54:33 ERROR 404: Not Found. Dec 09 01:56:19 Resolving www.angstrom-distribution.org... 85.214.40.226 Dec 09 01:56:19 Connecting to www.angstrom-distribution.org|85.214.40.226|:80... connected. Dec 09 01:56:19 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found Dec 09 01:56:19 19:54:32 ERROR 404: Not Found. Dec 09 02:03:45 dead link I guess? Dec 09 02:04:26 I can ping it okay... try again Dec 09 02:04:40 oh wait Dec 09 02:04:42 the file Dec 09 02:04:44 I dunno Dec 09 02:06:06 do you know of any other ways to build an image? Dec 09 02:06:30 its near impossible to find any prebuilt for the treo650 i have found one Dec 09 02:06:37 and after boot it goes to a black screen Dec 09 02:06:55 after getting the splash and led's go off then the vibration but i can never get it functional Dec 09 02:07:34 dunno Dec 09 02:09:17 cool well ill keep working at it thanks for the help DaedalusX nobody answers in the other channels this has been the only one that people have helped. I really appreciate that. Dec 09 02:09:50 no problem Dec 09 02:09:58 infurnus, what's your target btw, for OE? Dec 09 02:10:03 I could try building here if you'd like Dec 09 02:10:28 the architecture i am building for? Dec 09 02:10:39 yeah Dec 09 02:10:48 arm Dec 09 02:11:01 TARGET_ARCH = "arm" Dec 09 02:11:01 TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi" Dec 09 02:12:31 yeah but is there a specific MACHINE setting for the treo? Dec 09 02:12:53 heres my local.conf Dec 09 02:12:54 http://pastebin.com/m4e8c9211 Dec 09 02:13:07 MACHINE = "palmt650" Dec 09 02:13:46 found it Dec 09 02:15:54 infurnus, have you gotten anything to compile for it? Dec 09 02:16:44 as in has it worked? or have i gotten the tools to compile? Dec 09 02:17:07 forgive my ignorance this is my first time doing any of this Dec 09 02:17:29 i followed the directions here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Dec 09 02:17:37 and so far its gone without a hitch Dec 09 02:17:49 so do you get a screen at all? Dec 09 02:17:51 a console? Dec 09 02:18:16 no Dec 09 02:18:27 after boot i get the open embedded screen the i see a _ but it doesnt flash Dec 09 02:18:31 it just sticks Dec 09 02:18:40 is the kernel an official treo kernel? Dec 09 02:18:48 errr Dec 09 02:18:49 well Dec 09 02:18:50 lol idk i found it around on the web Dec 09 02:18:51 not official Dec 09 02:18:54 heh Dec 09 02:19:14 because if you don't get a console at all, then you're certainly not going to get X :P Dec 09 02:20:06 right the pictures on the site just show the open embedded boot screen but not after that and i haven't found any instructions anywhere about it Dec 09 02:20:23 what site are you looking at? Dec 09 02:20:30 they might not have anything past that you know :P Dec 09 02:21:04 right Dec 09 02:22:05 http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2007/06/30/im-in-ur-treo-linuxin-ur-phonez/ Dec 09 02:22:14 taken from http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTreo650HowTo Dec 09 02:24:22 I DO hope you use that bootloader that I see in this video, and didn't just wipe your treo clean :P Dec 09 02:25:00 i use the same program he does Dec 09 02:25:01 cocoboot Dec 09 02:25:08 it doesnt touch the file system on the palm Dec 09 02:25:20 it boots from the ext2 from the SDIO card Dec 09 02:25:25 nice Dec 09 02:25:30 i didnt see that video before but watching it mine looks identical and i get that black screen that hangs Dec 09 02:25:35 would you like me to try recompiling that kernel for you, and send you the file? Dec 09 02:25:44 hang on a sec Dec 09 02:25:49 imma leave it at the boot screen longer Dec 09 02:25:59 i have left it their for a few mins and gave up Dec 09 02:26:08 it may need more time Dec 09 02:26:18 it probably does Dec 09 02:26:26 very minimal device Dec 09 02:26:29 it's gotta cram everything into a tiiiny amount of memory Dec 09 02:26:31 as far as specs go Dec 09 02:26:32 right Dec 09 02:26:43 32 MB of RAM, and that's shared between a billion things Dec 09 02:31:28 wellll I had no luck getting that kernel package either Dec 09 02:31:38 :( Dec 09 02:31:39 infurnus, I think your treo'll probably go linuxless for a little while yet Dec 09 02:31:44 its still on the black screen Dec 09 02:31:45 yeah Dec 09 02:31:55 sorry buddy Dec 09 02:32:07 thanks anyways you have been a huge help Dec 09 02:32:18 all the links for working treo650 linux images seem to be down :P Dec 09 02:32:21 maybe it's a conspiracy Dec 09 02:32:22 :P Dec 09 02:32:27 XD Dec 09 02:32:41 if i can get around to a minisd ill try it on my 755 Dec 09 02:32:44 has a bit more power Dec 09 02:32:49 heh, nice Dec 09 02:55:09 Time to see if ångström compiles... 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