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Dec 09 03:35:18 <schme> So bitbake minimal-image fails for me.
Dec 09 03:35:20 <schme> install: cannot stat `/home/bitbaker/OE/build/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glibc-intermediate-2.5-r8/glibc-2.5/sunrpc/rpcsvc/bootparam_prot.h': No such file or directory
Dec 09 04:32:28 <DaedalusX> is there any way to scale programs that run at 320x240 to 640x480 without totally destroying the framerate?
Dec 09 04:33:41 <Zero_Chaos> yeah, get a faster gpu/cpu
Dec 09 04:34:35 <DaedalusX> Zero_Chaos, in all seriousness though :P
Dec 09 04:34:44 <DaedalusX> like a basic 2x point scaler or anything
Dec 09 04:34:47 <Zero_Chaos> DaedalusX: what program?
Dec 09 04:35:23 <DaedalusX> Zero_Chaos, mplayer (I can't find a basic 2x scaler in the options), prboom, quake
Dec 09 04:35:30 <DaedalusX> I guess I could just recode it.
Dec 09 04:35:46 <Zero_Chaos> hmm...
Dec 09 04:35:56 <Zero_Chaos> I'd think mplayer should work...
Dec 09 04:35:59 <DaedalusX> that's just kind of a pain that I'd rather avoid if possible
Dec 09 04:36:03 <Zero_Chaos> but I dunno, haven't tried
Dec 09 04:36:12 <DaedalusX> it should, but the only scaler I can find is the 2xSAI scaler
Dec 09 04:36:16 <DaedalusX> which is so painfully slow
Dec 09 04:36:17 <DaedalusX> it's bad
Dec 09 04:36:32 <DaedalusX> scummvm has a basic 2x point scaler which works great :)
Dec 09 11:52:20 <cofeineSunshine> i have no sound in my IPAQ
Dec 09 11:52:23 <cofeineSunshine> h2200
Dec 09 11:52:39 <cofeineSunshine> root@h2200:/home/justinas$ uname -a
Dec 09 11:52:39 <cofeineSunshine> Linux h2200 2.6.21-hh17 #1 PREEMPT Sun Nov 4 03:34:52 CET 2007 armv5tel unknown
Dec 09 12:59:19 <cofeineSunshine> where i can get mtdchar.ko for 2.6.21-hh17
Dec 09 14:50:07 <mimecar> hi
Dec 09 14:51:52 <schme> Finally ångström compiled ok. Now to make some recipes :)
Dec 09 14:52:22 <mimecar> are you building and image or a program ?
Dec 09 14:55:18 <schme> Well first of I just wanted to build anything at all so I was bitbaking minimal-image. but the build process broke.
Dec 09 14:55:36 <schme> Now I'm just basking in the joy of having finally got that working :)
Dec 09 14:56:17 <schme> Next step.. beats me. What I want is to have some programs running on my zaurus. those are the ones I want to compile.
Dec 09 15:00:22 <mimecar> for example ?
Dec 09 15:00:48 <schme> clisp and sxemacs.
Dec 09 15:01:09 <mimecar> ok
Dec 09 15:01:38 <schme> It doesn't look too difficult :)
Dec 09 15:01:56 <schme> I mostly set up an openembedded thingy here to do crosscompilation. Bitbake seems amazing though.
Dec 09 15:02:17 <schme> And gnubg I guess. mmmm..
Dec 09 15:03:13 <schme> That is the proper way to do things, yes?  Setup OE, make some recipes. Watch it go?
Dec 09 15:04:07 <mimecar> ig you have the recipie, compilation is easy
Dec 09 15:06:04 <schme> ig?
Dec 09 15:06:16 <schme> if
Dec 09 15:06:27 <schme> Sorry. I'm on dvorak I don't read qwerty typos so well :D
Dec 09 15:06:39 <schme> Seems easy enough to make recepies.
Dec 09 15:07:20 <mimecar> don't worry
Dec 09 15:07:38 <mimecar> i don't read all the sentences i write ;)
Dec 09 15:15:54 <schme> Hahahaha.
Dec 09 15:58:36 <cofeineSunshine>  flash_eraseall -j /dev/mtd3
Dec 09 15:58:45 <cofeineSunshine> where i can get  flash_eraseall
Dec 09 15:59:36 <mimecar> what do you want do ?
Dec 09 15:59:57 <cofeineSunshine> i want to put my rootfs into ipaq memory
Dec 09 16:00:05 <cofeineSunshine> so, it can boot
Dec 09 16:00:10 <mimecar> manually ?
Dec 09 16:00:21 <cofeineSunshine> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ipaq-h2200-series
Dec 09 16:00:27 <cofeineSunshine>  Method 2: Flash a rootfs to internal flash from linux
Dec 09 16:00:29 <cofeineSunshine> like this
Dec 09 16:00:50 <pH5> cofeineSunshine: mtd-utils
Dec 09 16:01:14 <mimecar> if you have problems you won't be able to boot windows..
Dec 09 16:01:16 <cofeineSunshine> pH5, thanx
Dec 09 16:01:40 <pH5> mimecar: that's true, writing to flash is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing :)
Dec 09 16:01:49 <cofeineSunshine> but i know;]
Dec 09 16:02:01 <cofeineSunshine> windows isnt there already for a long time;]
Dec 09 16:02:07 <mimecar> and erase windows mobile... you can't run gameboy emulator..
Dec 09 16:02:30 <cofeineSunshine> wow Skipping bad block at 0x01570000
Dec 09 16:10:50 <cofeineSunshine> wow
Dec 09 16:11:02 <cofeineSunshine> it now boots without sd card;D
Dec 09 16:11:49 <mimecar> and the bad block error ?
Dec 09 16:12:16 <cofeineSunshine> nothing
Dec 09 16:12:43 <cofeineSunshine> the bad block error was when i ran flash_eraseall
Dec 09 16:14:17 <mimecar> have the program marked that address as bad ?
Dec 09 16:14:31 <mimecar> if not, you are writing on a bad memmory
Dec 09 16:15:05 <cofeineSunshine> no sound;/
Dec 09 16:29:28 <cofeineSunshine> i have no sound
Dec 09 16:29:33 <cofeineSunshine> what could be?
Dec 09 16:29:38 <cofeineSunshine> where to start looking?
Dec 09 16:29:51 <mimeca1> it can be a mistake on kernel
Dec 09 16:30:31 <cofeineSunshine> snd_pcm_oss            41120  0 
Dec 09 16:30:31 <cofeineSunshine> snd_pcm                74085  1 snd_pcm_oss
Dec 09 16:30:31 <cofeineSunshine> snd_timer              20388  1 snd_pcm
Dec 09 16:30:31 <cofeineSunshine> snd_page_alloc          5832  1 snd_pcm
Dec 09 16:30:31 <cofeineSunshine> snd_mixer_oss          14816  1 snd_pcm_oss
Dec 09 16:30:32 <cofeineSunshine> snd                    46388  4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
Dec 09 16:30:39 <cofeineSunshine> there is some sound modules
Dec 09 16:35:05 <mimeca1> check volume
Dec 09 16:35:16 <mimeca1> if you use kernel 2.6, you're using alsa
Dec 09 16:37:29 <cofeineSunshine> i look like there is no such device
Dec 09 16:37:44 <cofeineSunshine> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
Dec 09 16:37:57 <mimeca1> ok
Dec 09 16:49:32 <cofeineSunshine> yay
Dec 09 16:49:34 <cofeineSunshine>  modprobe snd-h2200_audio 
Dec 09 16:49:38 <cofeineSunshine> and all works;D
Dec 09 16:50:38 <cofeineSunshine> ghm
Dec 09 16:50:47 <cofeineSunshine> there is no such package xmms?
Dec 09 16:51:05 <mimeca1> yes, it is
Dec 09 16:53:36 <cofeineSunshine> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=xmms
Dec 09 16:53:42 <cofeineSunshine> i did ipkg update
Dec 09 17:31:10 <cofeineSunshine> how I install xmms to angsrom?
Dec 09 17:31:28 <cofeineSunshine> how do i have to change ipkg sources list, so i can all xmms?
Dec 09 17:31:31 <mimecar> ipkg install xmms
Dec 09 17:31:54 <cofeineSunshine> it says that there isnt such package and suggest to run ipkg update
Dec 09 17:32:01 <cofeineSunshine> after that, nothing changes
Dec 09 17:32:29 <mimecar> what's architecture of your handheld? (arm...)
Dec 09 17:32:53 <cofeineSunshine> Linux h2200 2.6.21-hh19 #1 PREEMPT Sat Dec 8 00:49:22 CET 2007 armv5tel unknown
Dec 09 17:32:59 <cofeineSunshine> armv5tel?
Dec 09 17:33:44 <mimecar> xmms 1.2.10-r3 for armv5te (Ångström unstable armv5te base feed)
Dec 09 17:39:16 <cofeineSunshine> it shoult be in results of command ipkg search xmms?
Dec 09 17:39:39 <cofeineSunshine> but a problem, dont get any output form ipkg search command
Dec 09 17:39:54 <mimecar> if you can't do "ipkg install xmms"
Dec 09 17:39:57 <mimecar> something is wrong
Dec 09 17:41:31 <cofeineSunshine> root@h2200:/home/justinas$ ipkg install xmms
Dec 09 17:41:31 <cofeineSunshine> Nothing to be done
Dec 09 17:41:31 <cofeineSunshine> An error ocurred, return value: 4.
Dec 09 17:41:31 <cofeineSunshine> Collected errors:
Dec 09 17:41:31 <cofeineSunshine> Cannot find package xmms.
Dec 09 17:41:32 <cofeineSunshine> Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update'
Dec 09 17:41:34 <cofeineSunshine> root@h2200:/home/justinas$ 
Dec 09 17:41:36 <cofeineSunshine> what could be?
Dec 09 17:41:46 <cofeineSunshine> btw, i ran ipkg update
Dec 09 17:42:31 <cofeineSunshine> here is output: http://p.defau.lt/?WXpzbh4Z0TxVUWj8mtIugw
Dec 09 17:42:49 <mimecar> the package name is other
Dec 09 17:43:13 <cofeineSunshine> i think something is wrong with ipkg
Dec 09 17:43:21 <cofeineSunshine> i cant search any of packages
Dec 09 17:43:38 <cofeineSunshine> even when i write 'ipkg search a' i dont get any results
Dec 09 17:43:39 <cofeineSunshine> ;/
Dec 09 18:12:06 <cofeineSunshine> what could mean  cat /dev/sndstat 
Dec 09 18:12:12 <cofeineSunshine> Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.14rc3 emulation code)
Dec 09 18:12:12 <cofeineSunshine> Kernel: Linux h2200 2.6.21-hh19 #1 PREEMPT Sat Dec 8 00:49:22 CET 2007 armv5tel
Dec 09 18:12:12 <cofeineSunshine> Config options: 0
Dec 09 18:12:12 <cofeineSunshine> Installed drivers: 
Dec 09 18:12:12 <cofeineSunshine> Type 10: ALSA emulation
Dec 09 18:12:12 <cofeineSunshine> Card config: 
Dec 09 18:12:14 <cofeineSunshine> iPAQ h2200 Audio [codec Philips UDA1380]
Dec 09 18:12:18 <cofeineSunshine> Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
Dec 09 18:12:20 <cofeineSunshine> Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
Dec 09 18:12:23 <cofeineSunshine> Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
Dec 09 18:12:24 <cofeineSunshine> Timers:
Dec 09 18:12:26 <cofeineSunshine> 7: system timer
Dec 09 18:12:29 <cofeineSunshine> Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
Dec 09 18:17:34 <gmad> Hello everybody!
Dec 09 18:18:57 <schme> Hi dr nick!
Dec 09 18:20:42 <gmad> I am looking for softwar which change my Z to alarm clock. Do you know something?
Dec 09 18:23:25 <schme> at ?
Dec 09 18:27:30 <gmad> I wouldlike to install something like qpalarmclock from Sharp ROM
Dec 09 21:53:49 <gmad> hello!
Dec 09 21:53:58 <gmad> is anybody online?
Dec 09 21:54:00 <CoreDump> hey
Dec 09 21:54:18 <CoreDump> got your Z working again?
Dec 09 22:15:23 <xjqian> i'm wondering who maintains zroadmap 1.0.12 under OZ
Dec 09 22:16:39 <xjqian> I have a local recipe for zroadmap 1.1.0, but had some packaging issue
Dec 09 22:17:06 <xjqian> seems 1.0.12 also had the same issues about icons, etc.
Dec 09 22:17:23 <xjqian> just wondering if 1.0.12 works for anybody under OZ before
Dec 09 22:18:21 <xjqian> from what I can tell, the icons was not packaged into 1.0.12. not sure if there's anything else missing.
Dec 09 22:20:25 <xjqian> this is for opie 1.2.3 btw, but should be similar for gpe as well
Dec 09 22:20:38 <gmad> CoreDump: Hello! yes it's working 
Dec 09 22:21:22 <gmad> and finaly I got polish letters in my Z
Dec 09 22:21:46 <gmad> anybody is interesting in how to do it?
Dec 09 23:10:22 <Sketch> so i apparently need to manually run hciattach to get my socket BT card working
Dec 09 23:10:44 <Sketch> what's the best way to automate that?
Dec 09 23:12:03 <Sketch> it looks like the pcmcia stuff has changed completey since 2.4, and doesn't handle hotplug stuff itself...
Dec 09 23:17:36 <reyawn> hey all
Dec 09 23:19:02 <reyawn> is anyone else going crazy because of the whole qemu fiasco?
Dec 09 23:20:17 <Sketch> package builds fail on x86_64 because of qemu?
Dec 09 23:22:45 <reyawn> no
Dec 09 23:22:54 <reyawn> I am not using x64
Dec 09 23:23:01 <reyawn> even if my cpu does support it :)
Dec 09 23:23:11 <reyawn> but I'm stuck at a dead end now
Dec 09 23:23:19 <reyawn> is qemu actually needed?
Dec 09 23:24:42 <reyawn> I wish I could figure out a way to skip it, I've been reading everyone through the documentation and can't figure out how...even tried looking at the package bases to deselect it as a dependency but can't seem to find it listed anywhere
Dec 09 23:25:19 <dcordes> reyawn, install gcc-3.4
Dec 09 23:25:33 <dcordes> qemu doesn't like 4*
Dec 09 23:25:36 <reyawn> I know
Dec 09 23:25:48 <reyawn> but I'm scared to build another gcc from sources, don't want to bork things
Dec 09 23:26:00 <Sketch> hmm
Dec 09 23:26:11 <Sketch> try adding ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION="0" to local.conf
Dec 09 23:26:27 <reyawn> ah, I've read about that somewhere
Dec 09 23:26:30 <reyawn> what does it do?
Dec 09 23:26:37 <Sketch> that's what i had to do, i read it was an x86_64 issue, but might work elsewhere
Dec 09 23:26:52 <Sketch> not sure ;)
Dec 09 23:27:41 <reyawn> okay, lets see what happens... :)
Dec 09 23:28:04 <reyawn> its a pain because I had it all building once upon a time in my ubuntu installation
Dec 09 23:28:26 <reyawn> and then here I go to suse and there doesn't seem to be any legacy gcc support
Dec 09 23:35:58 <ant> Sketch: for socket cf bluetooth look at http://www.pastebin.org/11014
Dec 09 23:36:06 <dcordes> reyawn, yes in ubuntu I also just install 3.4 and I'm done
Dec 09 23:39:21 <ant> for some reasons the path of the feeds from angstrom differs from mine (built today)
Dec 09 23:39:27 <ant> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv5te/
Dec 09 23:40:09 <ant> mine /oe/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/ipk
Dec 09 23:40:23 <Sketch> ant: i tried that, didn't seem to work
Dec 09 23:40:27 <Sketch> what rev is your card?
Dec 09 23:40:44 <ant> one G and one K
Dec 09 23:40:57 <Sketch> that works for both?
Dec 09 23:41:03 <Sketch> mine's an H
Dec 09 23:41:10 <Sketch> should be the same as G afaik
Dec 09 23:41:17 <ant> should be fine
Dec 09 23:41:37 <HRH_H_Crab> anyone had any luck with usb gadget storage (card-reader mode)?
Dec 09 23:41:55 <dcordes> HRH_H_Crab, ah no change there for me
Dec 09 23:42:06 <HRH_H_Crab> i feel like im close!
Dec 09 23:42:09 <ant> Sketch: Then set appropriately hcid.conf and rfcomm.conf and pair the devices with passkey-agent.
Dec 09 23:42:15 <HRH_H_Crab> but at the same time so far...
Dec 09 23:42:15 <HRH_H_Crab> ;)
Dec 09 23:42:24 <Sketch> ant: did you add any uart stuff in hcid.conf?
Dec 09 23:42:39 <Sketch> or just modified the settings already there
Dec 09 23:42:40 <ant> Sketch: i'll post you
Dec 09 23:42:49 <ant> Sketch: 1 min
Dec 09 23:43:00 <Sketch> it works when i hciattach ; hciconfig manually
Dec 09 23:44:08 <dcordes> HRH_H_Crab, aren't you the gprs on akita guy?
Dec 09 23:44:16 <HRH_H_Crab> nope
Dec 09 23:44:30 <HRH_H_Crab> i have a sl-c3200
Dec 09 23:44:48 <HRH_H_Crab> i use pand via gprs on my phone.
Dec 09 23:44:56 <HRH_H_Crab> (or at least i think its gprs) 
Dec 09 23:45:25 <dcordes> do you know good howtos for this=?
Dec 09 23:45:44 <HRH_H_Crab> not really, but i found it quite easy to set up.
Dec 09 23:45:55 <HRH_H_Crab> the most difficult bits were on the phone side.
Dec 09 23:45:59 <ant> Sketch: http://www.pastebin.org/11016
Dec 09 23:46:17 <HRH_H_Crab> but i think thats specific to your phone and telephone comapny.
Dec 09 23:46:21 <HRH_H_Crab> *company
Dec 09 23:48:13 <HRH_H_Crab> http://pastebin.com/m266a7c72
Dec 09 23:48:22 <HRH_H_Crab> i think thats pretty much all you need to do.
Dec 09 23:48:25 <Sketch> ant: yeah, that looks pretty much like what i have too
Dec 09 23:48:37 <HRH_H_Crab> prob. have to peer the phone and z first.
Dec 09 23:49:25 <ant> Sketch: I tried only with gpe-bluetooth
Dec 09 23:50:15 <ant> Sketch: so I had to passkey-agent my devices...
Dec 09 23:52:29 <ant> HRH_H_Crab: he he...we crossed on the same point...pairing
Dec 09 23:52:56 <HRH_H_Crab> i actually found that quite easy with my phone.
Dec 09 23:53:06 <HRH_H_Crab> its been a while now,
Dec 09 23:53:26 <ant> HRH_H_Crab: initially I failed: the password and the device MAC must be "wrapped"
Dec 09 23:54:20 <HRH_H_Crab> i cant remember how i did the password either.
Dec 09 23:54:29 <ant> HRH_H_Crab: I mean double-quoted
Dec 09 23:54:37 <HRH_H_Crab> whether it was in gpe-bluetooth or in some conf file.
Dec 09 23:55:29 <ant> HRH_H_Crab: gpe-bluetooth is so broken that I only use it for on/off
Dec 09 23:55:33 <reyawn> Sketch: I'm still building after putting that switch in :)   Hopefully it will continue!
Dec 09 23:56:18 <HRH_H_Crab> i know that i cant get my gps to peer with the z.
Dec 09 23:56:20 <ant> HRH_H_Crab: eventually on shutting off exits with an error stating all was ok ...???
Dec 09 23:56:32 <HRH_H_Crab> even though i know its password is 0000
Dec 09 23:56:44 <HRH_H_Crab> but pand is far more important to me so ill take that on the chin for now.
Dec 09 23:57:42 <Sketch> hmm, gpe-bluetooth doesn't even work for me
Dec 09 23:58:09 <ant> Sketch: eject - reinsert the card and/or reboot
Dec 09 23:58:20 <HRH_H_Crab> there are a lot of how tos on zaurus bluetooth, and bluez generally, and i was able to google and fart around with those until such time as i suddenly heard my phone buzz and disply something like "your z is trying to use me as a modem, shall i allow it?"
Dec 09 23:58:33 <HRH_H_Crab> and i answered something along the lines of "yes, always"
Dec 09 23:58:36 <Sketch> actually it might be becaues i just put my CF wifi card in to install it ;)
Dec 09 23:58:45 <HRH_H_Crab> and touch wood, everythings been ok since!
Dec 09 23:59:07 <HRH_H_Crab> but i should note im using a usb dongle.
Dec 09 23:59:19 <HRH_H_Crab> i heard cf bluetooth isnt as straightforward.
Dec 10 00:00:10 <Sketch> HRH_H_Crab: seems that way ;)
Dec 10 00:00:18 <Sketch> it was easy on cacko though
Dec 10 00:00:30 <ant> HRH_H_Crab: imagine that in OpenZaurus was ttyS3 and now ttyS4...
Dec 10 00:00:43 <ant> ouch...
Dec 10 00:00:48 <Sketch> gpe-bluetooth complains that it can't own the service due to security policy in the config file
Dec 10 00:01:23 <Sketch> dinner, bbl
Dec 10 00:02:56 <ant> exactly now rev K
Dec 10 00:03:15 <ant> forget...clipboard
Dec 10 00:03:21 <ant> bye
Dec 10 02:03:41 <Infurnus> anybody know what boot commands are available for cocoboot?
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