**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 11 02:59:57 2007 Dec 11 10:40:57 Can Anyone tell me how can I bitbake mipv6_2.0.2? It tells "error: kernel headers do not support MIPv6." Dec 11 10:55:02 hi there ... anybody home ? Dec 11 10:59:02 nigam: ask your question. If somebody knows an answer, he will let you know. Dec 11 10:59:52 i am trying to flash my SL-C750 with an Angstrom console image. I got zImage.bin, updater.sh and initrd. Dec 11 11:00:01 bin from the c7x0 directory Dec 11 11:00:20 but after flashing my Z, I still see the old kernel ... what could I be doing wrong ? Dec 11 11:00:47 did you you an installkit? If so, from which date? Dec 11 11:01:16 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/c7x0/Angstrom-console-image-glibc-ipk-2007.9-test-20071211-c7x0-installkit.tgz should work Dec 11 11:01:23 that has marcin fixes Dec 11 11:01:41 minus the reboot fix, which wasn;t in the repo at buildtime Dec 11 11:02:27 maybe we should replace "reboot" with "Update finished, please reset." Dec 11 11:02:44 an extra reset can't hurt Dec 11 11:04:23 fwiw, some models were doing just that IIRC Dec 11 11:04:57 Hello Koen, didn't get to compile mipv6 yet... I'm quite desperate :-( Dec 11 11:05:18 "configure: error: kernel headers do not support MIPv6." Dec 11 11:05:24 hmmm ... So, I need to get that first ? I directly picked ... the files at the bottom of the page ... console-image, zImage-2.6.93... I didn't have access to updater-c7x0.sh Dec 11 11:06:36 nigam: that is the default way of doing it. It ensures proper versions of all files Dec 11 11:06:54 ah ok. So, let me try the installkit method ... again Dec 11 11:08:11 thx for the input Dec 11 11:08:27 are any of you working on Android ? Dec 11 11:08:44 that's my ultimate aim ... to go from Sharp's ROM to Angstrom to Android Dec 11 11:08:58 nigam: try #andriod ;) Dec 11 11:12:37 awesome :) one more question, after getting the three files from installkit, do I also need to get the rootfs.tar.gz file and put it on the Z ? Dec 11 11:14:48 no Dec 11 11:14:58 nigam: installkit contain everything needed Dec 11 11:15:11 kewl, thx Dec 11 11:15:31 u guys are great. Dec 11 11:39:47 Hi again, I just wanted to know whether the Angstrom kernel source is available anywhere ? Dec 11 11:42:41 nigam: yes, the best way to get it is using OE: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Dec 11 11:42:51 awesome, thanks a bunch ! Dec 11 12:10:32 Can anybody explain me what is tasks directory for? I know that task-base is a way to specify features, but don't know what are the rest of files for Dec 11 12:11:03 tasks create metapackages Dec 11 12:11:44 so you can say 'ipkg install task-toolchain' instead of 'ipkg install gcc binutils automake autoconf perl python' Dec 11 12:12:09 and how can they be created? Dec 11 12:12:31 bitbake task-tookchain? Dec 11 12:12:36 yes Dec 11 12:12:43 I see Dec 11 12:13:40 so, bitbake -c clean task-toolchain shoul work too Dec 11 12:13:58 yes Dec 11 12:14:05 (if task-toolchain exists) Dec 11 12:14:28 thanks! Dec 11 12:14:34 but that wouldn't "-c clean" all packages defined in task-toolchain of course Dec 11 12:14:41 ? Dec 11 12:14:56 it would only clean the meta package Dec 11 12:15:13 ans is there any method for doing that? Dec 11 12:15:28 good question Dec 11 12:15:33 you could add a cleanall task in base.bbclass Dec 11 12:15:46 but I suspect that wouldn't do what you want Dec 11 12:16:10 since it would clean *everything* in (R)DEPENDS Dec 11 12:38:28 evening! Dec 11 14:04:35 koen: Do you know what dows this message mean? "| configure: error: kernel headers do not support MIPv6." Dec 11 14:04:58 I know what it means, I don't know what's causing it or how to solve it Dec 11 14:04:59 ffc: which kernel version got mipv6 support? Dec 11 14:05:50 hrw: that's a good question Dec 11 14:06:19 AFAIK there's no support Dec 11 14:06:44 then nothing strange that it tell that Dec 11 14:06:48 CONFIG_MIP6 in 2.6.23 Dec 11 14:06:48 There's a patch Dec 11 14:07:03 I've used MIPV6 on a desktop linux Dec 11 14:07:13 and I had to patch kernel with MIPL patch Dec 11 14:07:41 after patching, CONFIG_IPV6_MIP6 appeared Dec 11 14:08:18 ffc: 2.0.36 is known as havin that problem? Dec 11 14:08:55 mip6 is over year old Dec 11 14:09:08 hrw: you mean mipv6_2.0.36? Dec 11 14:09:12 http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=ee53826801a8fa7a0e333895421ef6d0e5fbfbf0 Dec 11 14:09:23 "Fri, 22 Sep 2006" Dec 11 14:09:29 so it's even in 2.6.19 Dec 11 14:09:33 no kernel 2.0.36 Dec 11 14:09:42 ffc: thats what you run on desktop - right? Dec 11 14:10:10 http://www.mobile-ipv6.org/software/download/mipv6-2.0.2-linux-2.6.16.patch.gz Dec 11 14:10:38 someone still use 2.6.16 on desktop? Dec 11 14:10:55 I had to get a kernel from kernel.org Dec 11 14:11:05 ah, mipl is deprecated Dec 11 14:11:07 http://linux-ipv6.org/ml/usagi-announce/msg00189.html Dec 11 14:11:12 * koen is really behind the times Dec 11 14:11:21 MIPL is deprecated?? Dec 11 14:11:29 good to know it, thanks koen Dec 11 14:13:31 ok then, but as you're saying, 2.6.23 should already have MIPv6 support, right? Dec 11 14:14:10 2.6.19, 2.6.20, 2.6.21, 2.6.22, .2.6.23 should all have it Dec 11 14:15:39 so headers from 2.6.20 should be ok Dec 11 14:16:06 That's why koen is saying that know the meaning of the error I posted but not why it's appearing... Dec 11 14:16:30 mipl probably expects a different interface Dec 11 14:17:44 can it be a problem of configuration of my host machine? Dec 11 14:19:37 * ffc apologizes for his horrible english (should improve it, he knows, he knows) Dec 11 14:21:52 there is nothing to apologize for. Your English is quite well. Dec 11 14:23:02 ant: resuming on power didn't work for me either Dec 11 14:23:06 I prefer non-native English then native English Dec 11 14:23:20 natives are too often hard to understand ;) Dec 11 14:23:29 * koen is fluent in engrish Dec 11 14:23:32 later all Dec 11 14:24:09 Engrish is Angry English? Dec 11 14:24:33 !google define: engrish Dec 11 14:24:34 Engrish refers to grammatically incorrect variations of English often found in East Asian countries. While the term may refer to spoken English ... @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engrish ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=all&q=define:+engrish ) Dec 11 14:25:52 thanks Dec 11 14:27:02 then, couldn't be a problem of host configuration? Dec 11 14:27:33 I've been testing different machines for Angstrom compilation and I've found that it depends a lot on machine configuration Dec 11 14:27:58 it works better in Ubuntu 7.10 than in 7.04, for example Dec 11 14:28:19 and a debian etch machine we had didn't want to compile bluez package :-) Dec 11 14:28:46 I reinstalled it and it worked quite well Dec 11 14:28:52 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/12/11/preparing-to-next-trip/ Dec 11 14:31:19 * CoreDump pats his OE jail on the back Dec 11 14:37:40 btw: http://iamlegend.warnerbros.com/ awsome trailer Dec 11 14:44:27 wow Dec 11 15:09:05 later Dec 11 15:23:13 hrw: wanna start bets what the 'amazing' direction is the pdaX dudes are announcing in 2008? Dec 11 15:23:41 I bet 'debian based', but in a crazy maemo way Dec 11 15:28:50 ;)) Dec 11 15:29:49 like "install this deb, that will alter setting in $HOME" Dec 11 15:30:09 hmm Dec 11 15:30:13 either that Dec 11 15:30:21 or t2-project, heh Dec 11 15:30:28 heh Dec 11 15:30:29 [unlikely though] Dec 11 15:30:36 bbiab, lunchtime Dec 11 16:07:29 mickey|lunch: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25187&pid=172453&st=15&#entry172453 Dec 11 16:12:36 koen: was there ever any discussion about Summer of Code? Dec 11 16:12:48 not that I'm aware off Dec 11 16:30:54 bye! Dec 11 16:56:29 bah, time to return to twm for my desktop Dec 11 17:19:10 hey all Dec 11 18:26:17 what is the status of 5500 in angstrom? Dec 11 18:27:52 dunno, no feedback from testers on the autobuilds images yet Dec 11 18:28:08 (feedback means mails to the angstrom-distro-devel mailinglist) Dec 11 18:28:22 ok, I'll look at that later today Dec 11 18:28:42 is the autobuilds image linked on the main page? or at least, how to get to it? Dec 11 18:29:07 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/collie/ Dec 11 18:29:39 or check the "autobuilder uploads" sections on the frontpage Dec 11 18:29:57 alright, thanks. Looking at that, looks like the X11 images are too big Dec 11 18:32:14 koen: how can I quickly create an overlay for the new feeds (to install mc) ? Only for this pkg + deps ? Possible ? Dec 11 18:32:47 koen: without contaminating the two Dec 11 18:33:12 well, mc is in the armv5 feeds now Dec 11 18:33:19 koen: thanks Dec 11 18:33:37 but in general you upload the ipkgs to a webserver, run ipkg-make-index and point ipkg to that feed Dec 11 18:34:01 koen: I did ipkg-upgrade from the new feeds Dec 11 18:34:07 ant: when i got home last night, i plugged my zaurus in and resumed, and it failed to resume properly...i saw the console resuming screen, but then the screen went black and i wasn't able to get anything out of it Dec 11 18:34:20 then i rebooted and suspended and resumed, still on power and it worked Dec 11 18:34:22 koen: and only 2 pkg got upgraded, with unstable feeds where alot Dec 11 18:34:33 then i suspended on battery, and resumed on power, and it worked that time too Dec 11 18:34:40 so it seems like it might be somewhat inconsistant Dec 11 18:34:55 ant: yes, all package versions are frozen except for bugfixes Dec 11 18:35:38 koen: one was libesd Dec 11 18:36:00 koen: the other ...don't remember atm..sorry Dec 11 18:38:17 Sketch: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3456 Dec 11 18:38:53 Sketch: please extend Dec 11 18:40:11 hmm, actually when it didn't work for me it was suspended on battery and resumed on charge Dec 11 18:40:42 Sketch: I'm flashing now the c7x0 altboot-console-image Dec 11 18:40:49 Sketch: let you know Dec 11 18:41:20 Sketch: P.S. from autobuilder Dec 11 18:44:15 i was thinking it may not have actually been down, but just that the screen brightness was messed up so i couldn't see anything Dec 11 18:44:22 i should try it on wireless and see if it's pingable Dec 11 18:44:47 Sketch: these are two issues probably...power man and the bastard "bl" script Dec 11 18:45:07 Sketch: tortures me since OZ Dec 11 18:46:02 Sketch: the keyboard is stuck after flash...reboot Dec 11 18:48:10 koen: for some reasons altboot-console-image 2007-12-11 is stuck at altboot password prompt. No keyboard Dec 11 18:48:29 koen: it's first time I trie this image on c7x0 Dec 11 18:48:39 *try Dec 11 18:49:31 hmm, there's a new akita image up Dec 11 18:49:41 Sketch: good luck Dec 11 18:49:41 and no spitz images at all... Dec 11 18:49:52 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/ Dec 11 18:51:03 Sketch: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/spitz/ Dec 11 18:53:30 hmm, yeah i see Dec 11 18:53:36 well, i was running the akita images anyway Dec 11 18:53:39 -s Dec 11 18:54:06 just wondered if there was a newer spitz image up, when i dl'd, the akita was newer (which wasn't why i was running it, i just didn't want to repartition my HD) Dec 11 18:54:50 Sketch: should'n matter..same kernel Dec 11 18:54:59 nod Dec 11 18:55:06 Sketch: I mean 2.6.23 Dec 11 18:55:21 yeah, i already have 2.6.23 Dec 11 18:55:31 i am currently running an akita image from 1117 Dec 11 18:55:46 Sketch: outdated Dec 11 18:55:55 so i see ;) Dec 11 18:56:03 it was the newest one on the download page on the web site Dec 11 18:56:14 i didn't see any links to the autobuild thing before today Dec 11 19:00:11 koen: the console image is booting ok. keyboard ok Dec 11 19:00:35 koen: it is probably altboot Dec 11 19:00:35 cool, could you send a mail to angstrom-distro-devel stating that? Dec 11 19:00:59 koen: ok, but what's the point if the images change dailyù Dec 11 19:01:28 well, we know what changes inbetween :) Dec 11 19:01:38 thanks to using an SCM and auotbuilder Dec 11 19:01:43 koen: you iron men..me got lost! Dec 11 19:02:15 koen: and in your crew you are not so many Dec 11 19:02:15 and all updates should be available via ipkg as well Dec 11 19:02:37 (minus things like updater.sh, but that's pretty obvious) Dec 11 19:03:35 quote of the day "i want to use cacko as my main system and wish to run angstrom/debian/etc natively. a bootloader should give me the choice, Dec 11 19:03:35 kexec runs within angstrom." Dec 11 19:03:40 riiiiiiight Dec 11 19:03:49 kexec is a virtual machine Dec 11 19:03:50 NOT Dec 11 19:03:51 koen: oneday we'll update the kernel per ipk..I know Dec 11 19:04:22 koen: we have to push hrw for this! Dec 11 19:04:47 koen: imagine having 5 mb /boot and a true bootloader menu Dec 11 19:05:08 koen: you could store 4 kernels Dec 11 19:05:10 that would be really ideal, particularly since the feeds update modules for you Dec 11 19:05:49 koen: I saw this on OSF..you samaritan Dec 11 19:05:59 *OESF Dec 11 19:06:32 ant: I still think rebooting is overrated and should be done at most yearly :) Dec 11 19:06:40 koen: you are fishing for souls there, aren't you? Dec 11 19:06:52 koen: forget about /boot Dec 11 19:07:15 ant: I get pissed off bu ignorance, so if someone says that kexec runs 'inside'.... Dec 11 19:07:26 when the *&$#@&$*# first link in google proves them wrong Dec 11 19:07:41 koen: do you think the couple of valid pdax guys would eventually help Dec 11 19:07:45 ? Dec 11 19:07:46 * koen waits for Crofton to say we should stop being elitist Dec 11 19:07:58 ant: I hope they will help out Dec 11 19:08:09 koen: they are loosing time on debian Dec 11 19:08:15 ant: but I fear they can't work in a team with rules like OE and angstrom Dec 11 19:08:27 koen: they miss all small-screen and arm patches Dec 11 19:08:42 koen: they'll re-invent the wheel Dec 11 19:08:49 yeah Dec 11 19:08:53 sad Dec 11 19:09:04 having a 'proper' distro running is the end goal of course Dec 11 19:09:31 koen: 'proper' is moving target Dec 11 19:09:47 koen: and personal subject I gues Dec 11 19:10:13 koen: in OESF there are a lot of potential testers/users Dec 11 19:10:27 koen: they spend time on e.g. Zaurus Dec 11 19:10:42 koen: but they cannot resolve the bugs themselves Dec 11 19:11:01 koen: we/you should use this testing time Dec 11 19:11:25 koen: but they only browse that old forum Dec 11 19:11:28 ... Dec 11 19:11:46 koen; I come from there Dec 11 19:11:59 koen: as many others here Dec 11 19:13:00 I leave herding of users to other people Dec 11 19:13:21 and I still fail to see why reporting stuff to the bugtracker or mailinglists is so atrocious Dec 11 19:13:47 koen: for many people linux is a black box Dec 11 19:14:10 koen: they were given the Z by mistake... Dec 11 19:14:21 :-) Dec 11 19:15:25 I almost bought a collie 5 years ago Dec 11 19:15:31 koen: as you and mickeyl did, the viable solution is that YOU get THERE Dec 11 19:15:33 but I bought an ipaq h2200 instead Dec 11 19:16:16 koen: I'm for clamshells Dec 11 19:16:28 * koen has a bluetooth keyboard Dec 11 19:16:35 koen: ah Dec 11 19:16:52 koen: battery life? Dec 11 19:16:58 I use things as internet terminals, so the zaurus is pretty worthless in that regard Dec 11 19:17:14 the ipaq can get like 10 hours with bluetooth on Dec 11 19:17:31 ant: I still think rebooting is overrated and should be done at most Dec 11 19:17:44 rebooting is for when your machine crashes or freezes ;) Dec 11 19:17:56 (which happens far too often with cacko) Dec 11 19:18:07 or when your battery runs out when you're away Dec 11 19:18:16 koen: i use my zaurus mostly as a wireless internet terminal lately Dec 11 19:18:58 (wireless being via bluetooth to my cellphone) Dec 11 19:19:03 ditto Dec 11 19:19:31 koen: the console image either doesn't resume if plugged during suspend...odd Dec 11 19:19:56 i can get at least 6 hours with bluetooth on, which i think isn't bad Dec 11 19:20:01 * koen has a pile of PDAs next to all the devboards Dec 11 19:20:34 koen: believe me or not bought Zaurus for work... Dec 11 19:20:38 i don't think i can get 6 hours out of mine, but i get enough. Dec 11 19:20:47 koen: even 3 Zaurii Dec 11 19:20:53 and thats including caning the battery for mp3 playback too! Dec 11 19:20:54 ;P Dec 11 19:21:18 ant: a few of the PDAs are owned by the university Dec 11 19:21:30 koen: no other PDA was offering 640x480 Dec 11 19:21:51 * koen also has a ipaq hx4700 Dec 11 19:22:12 koen: I'm sale agent for life..I have my photo-catalog and price list Dec 11 19:22:16 bluetooth, wifi, cf, sd, 128mb flash, 620MHz pxa270, vga Dec 11 19:22:41 the zaurus is quite neat for showing picturers and stuff Dec 11 19:22:43 koen: and if BT works I can even connect to my office for IMAP and Web-App Dec 11 19:22:51 koen: apache+mysql Dec 11 19:23:08 koen: definitely NOT a bad buy Dec 11 19:23:20 koen: but for multimedia...well Dec 11 19:23:29 koen "nfinished" Dec 11 19:23:33 ant: the z? Dec 11 19:23:39 i dont think its so bad. Dec 11 19:23:50 ant: xdrive-imageon has xv support Dec 11 19:23:50 HRH_H_Crab Dec 11 19:23:58 HRH_H_Crab: for users Dec 11 19:24:01 so playing movies with mplayer is pretty fast Dec 11 19:24:16 ant: well i am a user really, im just an imposter in the dev channel ;) Dec 11 19:24:31 koen: I know, and want to make bench againts mickeyl ones Dec 11 19:24:54 i miss mpd a bit, but i could prob. build that myself if i could be bothered to learn openembedded / bitbake. Dec 11 19:25:25 i have some of my favorite comedy series encoded for my z, and that plays back well enough to make long train journeys less boring than they would otherwise be. Dec 11 19:25:36 HRH_H_Crab: if you need to start mplayer by console...(debian)...not nice Dec 11 19:25:40 certainly a lot nicer under angstrom than they were under openzaurus. Dec 11 19:26:12 i guess for really inexperienced users, but for the average linux user i dont think thats a problem. Dec 11 19:26:50 i agree something with an interface more akin to the sharp rom would be nicer for those users, Dec 11 19:27:16 but im extremely happy with what you guys have given me. Dec 11 19:27:49 ant quasar is in the feeds now for amvv5 Dec 11 19:27:57 HRH_H_Crab: thanks others, not me! Dec 11 19:28:02 koen: thx! Dec 11 19:29:53 koen: I'd like flite but I guess rootfs size ...too small Dec 11 19:30:53 koen: I'll try to install it in /home Dec 11 19:31:11 12K ./base/flite_1.2-r2_armv4t.ipk Dec 11 19:31:18 koen: sooo Dec 11 19:31:19 3.0M ./base/libflite1_1.2-r2_armv4t.ipk Dec 11 19:31:19 3.1M ./base/libflite-cmu-us-kal16-1_1.2-r2_armv4t.ipk Dec 11 19:31:19 1.8M ./base/libflite-cmu-us-kal1_1.2-r2_armv4t.ipk Dec 11 19:31:30 so ~6MB Dec 11 19:31:41 koen: why have I this wrong idea?read somewhere Dec 11 19:31:52 the voicepacks are large Dec 11 19:32:00 we packages those seperately Dec 11 19:32:01 koen: it's for the voice part of GPS navigation Dec 11 19:32:19 koen: maemo-mapper works? Dec 11 19:32:35 koen: navit needs speechd Dec 11 19:32:39 the one in the feeds should be usefull Dec 11 19:32:52 I'm still trying to buld an uptodate version of maemo-mapper Dec 11 19:33:04 but the author uses gcc3 and gcc4 refuses to compile it Dec 11 19:33:12 koen: but no .bb for speech-dispatcher , only gentoo ebuild to start from Dec 11 19:33:41 ant: https://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/local/?root=mokotts Dec 11 19:33:51 the gilles, the navit dude is working on that Dec 11 19:34:14 koen: thx again for he info Dec 11 19:34:39 heh Dec 11 19:34:51 i look forward to when that phone is ready for primetime, Dec 11 19:35:05 but ill be using my z as the keyboard and display for it on the bus / train! Dec 11 19:36:14 ant->lunch->yumm bb Dec 11 19:40:08 later all Dec 11 19:42:20 * Crofton is painting, no time to check up on you guys .... Dec 11 19:56:33 Hello! I am looking for Kapi software. Do you know where can I find it? Dec 11 20:03:17 are there instructions for flashing collie somewhere? Dec 11 20:06:48 somehow I had flashed my collie previously with opie, and now I can't get it to reflash Dec 12 01:09:06 somehow I had flashed my collie previously with opie, and now I can't get it to reflash, suggestions? Dec 12 01:10:46 summatusmentis: when does it fail? Dec 12 01:10:53 are you able to get into flash kernel? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 12 02:59:57 2007