**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 21 02:59:56 2007
Dec 21 06:48:03 <kamathln> http://flickr.com/photos/kamathln/2125812958/
Dec 21 06:48:10 <kamathln> somebody please help me
Dec 21 06:48:15 <kamathln> with booting my phone
Dec 21 06:48:41 <kamathln> i just dont seem to get it right
Dec 21 06:49:28 <kamathln> kernel and rootfs from www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/a780/20071207/
Dec 21 06:49:28 <kamathln> uncompressed rootfs onto /dev/mmca1
Dec 21 06:49:28 <kamathln> used boot_usb to push kernel into phone
Dec 21 06:49:28 <kamathln> already tried the trick of removing and re-insterting the battery.
Dec 21 07:12:26 <jpmatrix_zZZz> great! i've just booted into spitz angstrom 2007.11RC1 on my Zaurus C3000 !
Dec 21 07:13:07 <kamathln> jpmatrix_zZZz: waiting for the pic/screenshot :-0
Dec 21 07:16:17 <jpmatrix> brb
Dec 21 07:40:25 <ffc> Has anybody tested Angstrom with Qemu? GPE-dm exits with status 1
Dec 21 07:45:28 <ffc> CoreDump: Have you tested X11 with QemuArm?
Dec 21 07:46:17 <kamathln> hi
Dec 21 07:46:42 <kamathln> somebody please help me boot a780 with angstrom
Dec 21 07:47:07 <kamathln> http://flickr.com/photos/kamathln/2125812958/
Dec 21 07:49:38 <ffc> later
Dec 21 07:57:31 <jpmatrix> keyboard problem on latest angstrom...
Dec 21 08:16:48 <jpmatrix> updated to RC1.2 and rebooting :)
Dec 21 08:25:51 <xjqian> hi all,
Dec 21 08:26:19 <xjqian> broken alsa (sound) seems to be a generic problem for most of machines in Angstrom
Dec 21 08:26:57 <xjqian> should we make this a high priority through the next couple RC cycles of Angstrom
Dec 21 08:27:42 <xjqian> I think alsa is working fine, it's just different devices need testing for the correct sound state
Dec 21 08:28:19 <xjqian> just like keymap problem, try and error. Am I understanding it correctly?
Dec 21 08:36:12 <ffc> xjquian: Could it be the source of the problem in QEmu and X11? It reports a problem with sound sometimes
Dec 21 08:51:37 <xjqian> ffc: i'm not sure if i unserstand what you are saying
Dec 21 08:51:55 <ffc> oh, excuse me
Dec 21 08:52:13 <ffc> I'm having problems trying to use Angstrom with QEmu
Dec 21 08:52:30 <ffc> it keeps on going back to login screen
Dec 21 08:52:39 <xjqian> ffc: I have no experience with QEMU though
Dec 21 08:52:52 <ffc> and in messages it tells that gpe-dm quits
Dec 21 08:53:12 <xjqian> ffc: which machine file are you testing
Dec 21 08:53:30 <ffc> qemuarm
Dec 21 08:54:20 <xjqian> ffc: sorry, I can't help you as I know little about qemu and machines other than Tosa
Dec 21 08:54:33 <ffc> :-) thanks anyway
Dec 21 08:54:38 <xjqian> ffc: I have to go, good luck
Dec 21 08:54:48 <ffc> ok, thanks
Dec 21 09:08:04 <kamathln> hi can i tell boot_usb which device to push the kernel to ?
Dec 21 09:08:24 <kamathln> i have my a1200 connected too to upload photos to flickr ;-)
Dec 21 09:08:42 <kamathln> i have to unplug it every time i push kernel to my a780
Dec 21 09:35:34 <jpmatrix> how can i solve the keymap problem ?
Dec 21 09:41:40 <kamathln> hi
Dec 21 09:41:58 <kamathln> is it advised to use rdev on a kernel meant for a780?
Dec 21 09:42:01 <ffc> hrw: did you use Qemu?
Dec 21 09:42:05 <schme> jpmatrix: You managade to boot the spitz image?
Dec 21 09:42:10 <schme> managed too.
Dec 21 09:42:14 <kamathln> coz i tried and the kernel wonmt boot :-P
Dec 21 09:42:36 <hrw> ffc: yes
Dec 21 09:42:58 <ffc> with X11 version?
Dec 21 09:44:31 <hrw> yes
Dec 21 09:45:01 <ffc> And I suppose you have'nt got any problems with it, right?
Dec 21 09:45:50 <ffc> Can you tell me wich command line do you use for launching QEmu with X11?
Dec 21 09:46:05 <ffc> Maybe I'm missing something stupid
Dec 21 09:47:24 <jpmatrix> yes i booted the spitz image
Dec 21 09:47:42 <jpmatrix> that one : Angstrom-x11-office-image-glibc-ipk-2007.11RC1-spitz.rootfs.tar.gz
Dec 21 09:47:52 <jpmatrix> but i'm becoming crazy with the keyboard !
Dec 21 09:48:01 <jpmatrix> the Fn key is not working
Dec 21 09:48:14 <hrw> sudo ./qemu/qemu-system-arm -kernel zImage-armv6 -append "psplash=false root=/dev/sda console=ttyAMA0 console=tty0" -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=/home/hrw/devel/OH/poky/scripts/poky-qemu-ifup -M versatilepb -usb -usbdevice wacom-tablet -cpu arm1136 -serial stdio -hda poky-image-sato.ext2
Dec 21 09:48:29 <hrw> thats my qemu invocation
Dec 21 09:48:39 <ffc> ok, thank you very much
Dec 21 09:48:47 <ffc> I'll try it and I hope it works
Dec 21 09:49:15 <schme> jpmatrix: That sounds terrible with the fn-key.   I will try the installkit for that x11-office-image.
Dec 21 09:50:32 <ffc> are you using poky?
Dec 21 09:51:49 <ffc> or it's a modification of
Dec 21 09:51:51 <schme> Is there some magic incantation involved other than what is mentioned on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/angstrom-installation-spitz ?
Dec 21 09:57:36 <hrw> what problem you ave?
Dec 21 09:59:03 <XorA|gone> hrw: ever been to the US?
Dec 21 09:59:31 <hrw> XorA|gone: no and do not plan to go
Dec 21 09:59:36 <hrw> why you ask?
Dec 21 10:00:21 <XorA|gone> hrw: your blogging about UK signs, I found it wierd in the US, we use stuff like "No Exit" in US this is "This is not an Entrance" every sign seemed to have a full sentence rather than a terse message
Dec 21 10:00:27 <schme> hrw: I follow those exact instructions using various install packages I find in autobuild. It seems install finishes just fine (formats, extracts, says it will reboot). When it is supposed to reboot the screen gives a really quick whiteish flash and goes black again.
Dec 21 10:01:37 <hrw> hm.
Dec 21 10:01:45 <hrw> you do not have serial cable?
Dec 21 10:02:30 <schme> Excuse my ignorance/stupdity here but a serial cable? I didn't even know my Z had a serial port :S
Dec 21 10:03:28 * schme <- bloody n00b ;)
Dec 21 10:03:50 <hrw> ok
Dec 21 10:04:11 <hrw> looks like we need to get someone with spitz to retest new updater
Dec 21 10:05:19 <schme> I've tried two updaters. The one in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable ... and one that I was pointed to here..
Dec 21 10:06:54 <hrw> both was nearly same
Dec 21 10:07:07 <schme> hrw: http://www.openembedded.org/~hrw/updater.bin is the one I was pointed too. Only difference there is that it didn't autoreboot and left me with a # prompt. I explored the filesystem on the harddrive a bit and that looked ok atleast :)
Dec 21 10:13:12 <schme> How would I go buy acquireing one of these serial cables?
Dec 21 10:13:50 <hrw> amazon US have them cheap
Dec 21 10:15:17 <XorA|gone> hrw: I can test spitz tomorrow most likely
Dec 21 10:15:41 <schme> XorA: If it works for you I will cry and cry :S
Dec 21 10:15:50 <XorA> schme: its likely your not alone
Dec 21 10:17:26 <schme> XorA: Phew. I just got my lil precious baby like two days ago and I have no experience with PDAs and stuffs.. and first encounter with a zaurus was all "OMG!OMG!OMG!" so I'm just terrified that it's all broken here :)
Dec 21 10:18:03 <schme> Hmm. I find some sl-5500 serial cables on amazon. Is it the same?
Dec 21 10:18:08 <XorA> yup
Dec 21 10:18:44 <schme> Cools.
Dec 21 10:21:41 * XorA wonders why using MASQ stops avahi working
Dec 21 10:43:32 <jpmatrix> hmm
Dec 21 10:43:45 <jpmatrix> it seems most packages are uninstalable on latest angstrom
Dec 21 10:44:19 <jpmatrix> the ipkg.conf directory seems not to point to actual angstrom feeds
Dec 21 11:16:21 <schme> Is it normal that I need to do a NAND restore each time I've tried installing that spitz install kit?
Dec 21 11:16:56 <CoreDump> of course not
Dec 21 11:17:26 <schme> Ugh. Maybe my Z is terribly broken :S
Dec 21 11:17:50 <CoreDump> try on old OZ updater.sh
Dec 21 11:18:06 <schme> As soon as I find one :)
Dec 21 11:22:07 <kamathln> anyone with a780 knowledge ?
Dec 21 11:22:17 <schme> CoreDump: My problem with that is that http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install points me to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/ :S
Dec 21 11:22:54 <kamathln> i am geting a wierd problem.. my kernel boots but finally panics when i simply psuh it to my a780
Dec 21 11:23:30 <kamathln> but if i supply "root=0xf302" to boot from mmc, it will just give me some garbage
Dec 21 11:25:07 <kamathln> i used http://people.openezx.org/laforge/kernel/zImage-2.6.16.13-ezx3-32mb-p1
Dec 21 11:28:08 <CoreDump> I don't think many people here own an A780
Dec 21 11:29:18 * schme found an updater.sh from 2006. Half the size. Wow! Can't wait to try this :) thx CoreDump !
Dec 21 11:29:32 <CoreDump> np
Dec 21 11:30:01 <kamathln> CoreDump:  thx anyways .. i guess laforge has one .. so am bothering him on $openezx 
Dec 21 11:30:07 <kamathln> #openezx
Dec 21 11:45:01 <CoreDump> kamathln: I believe mickey_away and koen have one as well. I could be wrong tho
Dec 21 11:50:12 <hrw> bye
Dec 21 11:50:44 <XorA> CoreDump: Im pretty sure they do
Dec 21 11:55:12 <schme> CoreDump: I love you.
Dec 21 11:55:32 <CoreDump> ;)
Dec 21 11:56:19 <schme> The openzaurus updater worked like a charm. It even outputted interesting stuff about updating kernel and reflashing. Oh gosh now it is booting.
Dec 21 12:14:42 <CoreDump> hrmm. a quadcore is positively bored to death by an angstrom build with -j4
Dec 21 12:30:13 <Crofton|home> urg
Dec 21 12:30:25 <Crofton|home> I hate the holidays, I can't get any work done
Dec 21 12:30:43 <Crofton|home> of course the main problem is I am remodeling the homie office, so the house is a wreck
Dec 21 12:31:06 <Crofton|home> my OSK is buried under papers and I can't test Angstrom RC's on it ..
Dec 21 12:33:40 <Crofton|home> good there are RC2 images when I am rady
Dec 21 13:27:04 <hrw|gone> CoreDump: add BB_THREADS
Dec 21 13:27:34 <hrw> CoreDump: at OH we have quadcore as buildmachine. -j4 + 16 BB threads makes real use of it
Dec 21 13:28:24 <CoreDump> hrw: I have BB_NUMBER_THREATS=4 and -j4
Dec 21 13:29:59 <CoreDump> -j6 even
Dec 21 13:30:23 <hrw> make it 16 threads
Dec 21 13:30:43 <CoreDump> will do
Dec 21 13:48:14 <jpmatrix_brb> re
Dec 21 13:51:16 <jpmatrix> men these keyboard issues are a major drawback in rc1...
Dec 21 13:51:46 <jpmatrix> it used to work before...
Dec 21 14:24:55 <Furre> Anyone want a leathercase of the C700? I found one but I dont own a C700 anymore so I have no use for it, let me know if anyone you want it and Ill send it if you pay the shippingcost to wherever in the world you live (Sent from Sweden)
Dec 21 14:26:19 <hrw> I have two...
Dec 21 14:27:58 <Furre> well if you want a leathercase for it let me know, I dont think it'd be too expencive to send, want me to check?
Dec 21 14:28:42 <Furre> working on cleaning my room for X-mas, its amasing what things you can find ^^
Dec 21 14:29:21 <Furre> just throwing it away feels like a waste since it havnt even been used
Dec 21 14:32:05 <hrw> two leathercases
Dec 21 14:32:26 <Furre> oh :X
Dec 21 14:32:30 <hrw> and one c760 - I do not even use those cases
Dec 21 14:35:48 <jpmatrix> just upgraded to Anstrom 2007.11RC2 :)
Dec 21 14:36:51 <jpmatrix> would someone give me a working ipkg.conf ?
Dec 21 14:37:16 <jpmatrix> i mean base-feed.conf
Dec 21 14:37:51 <jpmatrix> can we safely replace with http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/
Dec 21 14:37:56 <jpmatrix> ?
Dec 21 15:00:58 <jpmatrix> hmm
Dec 21 15:01:00 <jpmatrix> you know what?
Dec 21 15:01:22 <jpmatrix> keyboard is not working ONLY in initial x-terminal !
Dec 21 15:01:35 <jpmatrix> it does work under rxvt i've just installed !!!
Dec 21 18:47:07 <tobb_> which package has x11 pcf fonts?, rxvt wont start cause it can't find any font
Dec 21 18:50:17 <tobb_> (I've installed X on a console-image)
Dec 21 19:56:01 * Blue89 is flashing the zaurus now... can't wait to see the finished product :-)
Dec 21 19:59:12 <Blue89> ?
Dec 21 19:59:17 <Blue89> I waited for the flash to finish
Dec 21 19:59:26 <Blue89> it was supposed t reboot, but it just shut off
Dec 21 19:59:29 <hrw|tv> which Z?
Dec 21 19:59:38 <hrw|tv> spitz like?
Dec 21 19:59:42 <Blue89> now I press the power key and it flashes for a minute then shuts back off
Dec 21 19:59:47 <Blue89> spitz-like
Dec 21 19:59:53 <Blue89> 3200 terrier to be more specific
Dec 21 19:59:57 <hrw|tv> updater.sh is broken for it
Dec 21 20:00:02 <Blue89> ...
Dec 21 20:00:07 <hrw|tv> someone have to fix it ;(
Dec 21 20:00:29 <Blue89> could someone put a warning on the wiki?
Dec 21 20:00:48 <Blue89> I followed instructions very carefully, and yet I am left with a blank zaurus
Dec 21 20:00:55 <Blue89> am I bricked?
Dec 21 20:00:59 <hrw|tv> no
Dec 21 20:01:10 <hrw|tv> you need older updater.sh for now
Dec 21 20:01:14 <hrw|tv> grab one from openzaurus
Dec 21 20:01:47 <Blue89> any will do?
Dec 21 20:02:00 <hrw|tv>  spitz one
Dec 21 20:02:15 <Blue89> I have the one from my pdaxii13 install laying around, I will put it back on my SD card
Dec 21 20:02:31 <hrw|tv> I do not know that one
Dec 21 20:02:32 <Blue89> although, I think they use a different partition scheme
Dec 21 20:02:40 <hrw|tv> I kwno that zaurus one will work for you
Dec 21 20:02:43 <Blue89> I better download an openzaurus one
Dec 21 20:04:40 <Blue89> http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install <-- for some reason, this download link points to angstrom files?
Dec 21 20:05:30 <hrw|tv> go to openzaurus.org/download/
Dec 21 20:05:31 <Sketch> any working updater.sh should work, i used the one i had laying around from installing cacko
Dec 21 20:05:51 <Sketch> OZ one is probably closer to matching the angstrom docs though ;)
Dec 21 20:05:53 <hrw|tv> Sketch: I know that OZ one works
Dec 21 20:06:06 <hrw|tv> angstrom one is based on OZ one
Dec 21 20:06:29 * hrw|tv -> movie
Dec 21 20:06:44 <Blue89> http://www.openzaurus.org/download/3.5.4/images/ <-- I don't see any spitz ones here...
Dec 21 20:07:08 <Sketch> it seems like there really ought to be a working updater.sh for an RC...
Dec 21 20:13:59 <Blue89> Sketch, I still can't find any updater.sh except from pdaxrom...
Dec 21 20:14:06 <Blue89> I am googling now
Dec 21 20:14:25 <Blue89> but I'm not finding much
Dec 21 20:16:42 <Sketch> hmm
Dec 21 20:16:57 <Sketch> there's one in OZ 3.5.4.1 but it 403's
Dec 21 20:17:24 <Blue89> is there a server you can use to give me the one you have? I am desperate >_<
Dec 21 20:18:16 <Blue89> how many lines is it? can you pastebin it?
Dec 21 20:18:32 <Sketch> it's a binary
Dec 21 20:18:53 <Blue89> oh
Dec 21 20:19:04 <Blue89> *_*;
Dec 21 20:20:14 <Blue89> http://sharpromfeed.home.linuxtogo.org/download/cacko/rom1.23/ <-- looks like I am getting closer
Dec 21 20:20:32 <Sketch> i'll upload what i used...
Dec 21 20:21:58 <Sketch> http://fiero.cc/sketch/spitz/
Dec 21 20:22:27 <Sketch> initrd.bin is the name of the rom image, that one is the akita rc1 image
Dec 21 20:22:31 <Blue89> do I need any of those other files, or will just the updater.sh do?
Dec 21 20:23:10 <Sketch> you need the tools.tar, and you may need to replace the kernel image in it
Dec 21 20:23:52 <Sketch> actually i'm not 100% sure that will work on a 3200, it might only work on a 3100
Dec 21 20:29:31 <Sketch> so you might need one from a 3200
Dec 21 20:29:46 <Sketch> though the way the tools.tar is laid out, i wonder if you could just rename the 3100 dir with the kernel in it to 3200
Dec 21 20:30:12 * Blue89 will try anything, just wants it to work
Dec 21 20:30:41 <Blue89> I found a cacko 3200 qtopia image we can salvage parts from
Dec 21 20:31:00 <Blue89> try those?
Dec 21 20:31:00 <Sketch> yeah, that ought to work
Dec 21 20:32:22 <Blue89> I need the ramdisk, updater.sh, and the toolr.tar?
Dec 21 20:33:01 <Blue89> ... I don't see a tools.tar here
Dec 21 20:33:06 <Sketch> initrd.bin is the main image, tools.tar is a tar file that contains the kernel (and a few other things), and updater.sh does the updating
Dec 21 20:35:10 <Blue89> I only see gnu-tar hdimage1.tgz, updater.sh, and zImage.bin
Dec 21 20:36:16 <Sketch> that sounds like angstrom?
Dec 21 20:37:05 <Blue89> wow, my filebrowser hiccuped
Dec 21 20:37:42 <Blue89> yeah
Dec 21 20:37:44 <jpmatrix> there's a working set here too :
Dec 21 20:37:44 <jpmatrix> http://matrixmen.free.fr/zaurus/angstrom/
Dec 21 20:37:48 <jpmatrix> brb
Dec 21 20:37:49 <Blue89> the files I needed are in the cacko image
Dec 21 20:38:22 <Sketch> jpmatrix: for what hardware?
Dec 21 20:38:45 <Sketch> if that works it's probably easier than using the cacko stuff ;)
Dec 21 20:39:27 <Blue89> right...
Dec 21 20:41:26 <Sketch> to use the cacko files you have to untar the tools.tar, replace the zImage.bin with the one from angstrom, and re-tar it
Dec 21 20:41:54 <Sketch> and download the appropriate .jffs2 image and rename it initrd.bin
Dec 21 20:42:32 <Sketch> then put your new tools.tar, initrd.bin, and the updater.sh on your flash card and flash
Dec 21 20:43:06 <Sketch> (and you may want to read the cacko readme for that, but it's pretty straightforward, you just select the menu options to install the new image)
Dec 21 20:43:47 <Blue89> I think I am going to try jp's fiels first
Dec 21 20:43:57 <Sketch> nod, it's probably easier
Dec 21 20:44:25 <Blue89> hopefully I won't end up with a $600 foreign-made paperweight much longer...
Dec 21 20:50:44 <Blue89> it's ALIVE!
Dec 21 20:50:52 <Blue89> jp is da bomb :-)
Dec 21 20:51:29 <Blue89> whatever I am paying you, double it... oh , nevermind. X-D
Dec 21 20:52:42 <CoreDump> the angstrom spitz situation is getting silly. Would someone _please_post a note about the broken updater.sh at the d/l section?
Dec 21 20:53:26 * Blue89 nods
Dec 21 20:54:50 <CoreDump> so...anyone w/ r/w access?
Dec 21 20:57:03 <CoreDump> http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/mhcln05/quadcore-goodness.png =)
Dec 21 20:59:10 <hvontres|work> CoreDump: sweeet :) How long to re-build from a clean tmp now?
Dec 21 21:00:00 <Blue89> CoreDump, is that foresight?
Dec 21 21:00:23 <Blue89> looks cool
Dec 21 21:03:59 <CoreDump> hvontres|work: I have yet to measure it ;)
Dec 21 21:04:06 <hvontres|work> CoreDump: -1C? brrrrrr
Dec 21 21:04:14 <CoreDump> yeah =(
Dec 21 21:04:49 <hvontres|work> CoreDump: I guess you could super cool your machine by running a duct to the outside :)
Dec 21 21:05:03 <CoreDump> I'm going to shoot a video of BB_NUMBER_THREATS = 16 in action, bloody funny to see
Dec 21 21:05:13 <CoreDump> hvontres|work: just have to open the window =D
Dec 21 21:05:45 <hvontres|work> CoreDump: hehe... I have been runnin BB_NUMBER_THREADS = 8 on my dual core :)
Dec 21 21:06:08 <CoreDump> never messed with that on mine
Dec 21 21:06:42 <hvontres|work> CoreDump: it keeps the CPU busy for sure...
Dec 21 21:07:27 <CoreDump> indeed
Dec 21 21:07:51 <CoreDump> the quadcore was bored to death w/  BB_NUMBER_THREATS = 4 and -j 6
Dec 21 21:07:59 <CoreDump> 16 looks perfect
Dec 21 21:08:50 <CoreDump> did you ever run into the dependency bug?
Dec 21 21:10:18 * CoreDump tries bitbake trunk
Dec 21 21:12:20 <CoreDump> or not hmpf
Dec 21 21:28:12 <hvontres|work> CoreDump: I have, but ususally a restart will cure that :)
Dec 21 21:29:24 <hvontres|work> CoreDump: the one I have seen the most is altboot trying to build before ncurses...
Dec 21 21:33:05 <CoreDump> well, it kinda sucks for nightly / unsupervised builds
Dec 21 21:36:04 <tobb_> what tool can I use to generate sha256 checksums? (for conf/checksums.ini)
Dec 21 21:36:20 <CoreDump> sha256sum
Dec 21 21:37:03 <tobb_> doh
Dec 21 21:37:08 <tobb_> :)
Dec 21 21:37:47 <CoreDump> =)
Dec 21 21:38:04 <schme> Silly q here. I installed gpe-minimalist image and I was wondering how on earth I skip to a console instead of X?
Dec 21 21:38:54 <schme> oh found it!
Dec 21 21:39:08 <schme> or not ><
Dec 21 21:39:40 <CoreDump> Fn-LeftArrow could work...depending on how "minimalistic" that image is
Dec 21 21:39:52 <tobb_> schme: chvt 1 in a terminal?
Dec 21 21:40:06 <schme> CoreDump: It just boots X and what I am guessing is GPE.. with nothing there to run :D
Dec 21 21:40:24 <schme> fn-leftarrow seems dead.  and what is chvt 1 ?
Dec 21 21:40:36 <tobb_> schme: ctrl-alt-backspace many times will kill the login manager also
Dec 21 21:40:43 <schme> Ok I'll try that.
Dec 21 21:40:44 <tobb_> schme: change virtual terminal
Dec 21 21:40:48 <schme> Ah.
Dec 21 21:41:06 <schme> Yeah if I had a terminal to start in GPE ;) thx. I'll try the C-A-BS
Dec 21 21:41:29 <CoreDump> schme: well, C-A-BS should work in any case
Dec 21 21:41:56 <schme> Problem with C-A-BS is gpe-dm restarts X.
Dec 21 21:41:58 <schme> Grrr.
Dec 21 21:42:13 <tobb_> schme: many times in a row
Dec 21 21:42:15 <CoreDump> do it 3 or 4 times and it quits
Dec 21 21:42:18 <schme> I guess it's time to install another image with a terminal program.
Dec 21 21:42:26 <schme> Pffft. Done it 10 times here :)
Dec 21 21:42:47 <CoreDump> IMO these "mini" images should be pulled...more trouble than worth it
Dec 21 21:43:39 <schme> I hear you there. gpe-minimalist was a bit.. silly. I was thinking it was GPE + some terminal. It's just GPE and no software :)
Dec 21 21:43:48 <tobb_> can I ask oe questions about .bb files here?, having trouble with actually downloading the file with SRC_URI
Dec 21 21:43:50 * schme reinstalls. Thanks for the help though.
Dec 21 21:44:17 <CoreDump> ask away
Dec 21 21:45:36 <tobb_> I've set the SRC_URI, and the do_fetch procedure just complains about it not being in the dir where downloaded sources go
Dec 21 21:46:33 <tobb_> http://pastebin.org/12448
Dec 21 21:47:44 <tobb_> http://pastebin.org/12449 <- the .bb file
Dec 21 21:49:18 <CoreDump> hmm
Dec 21 21:49:43 <CoreDump> you sure that "/oe/sources/" exists?
Dec 21 21:50:38 <tobb_> yea, I've built a couple of images so it's full of tarballs
Dec 21 21:52:17 <CoreDump> do a rm /oe/sources/emonob*
Dec 21 21:52:22 <CoreDump> *shrug*
Dec 21 21:52:28 <CoreDump> never ran into that one
Dec 21 21:53:07 <tobb_> I've created the .bb file myself, so it's probably something wrong there, but can't see what
Dec 21 21:53:39 <CoreDump> neither can I
Dec 21 21:54:18 <CoreDump> tried unsetting ${S} ?
Dec 21 21:54:42 <tobb_> ah there was a lockfile left in sources/
Dec 21 21:54:51 <tobb_> thanks
Dec 21 21:56:48 <CoreDump> ;)
Dec 21 22:01:54 <tobb_> hmm, how do I get e-wm installed in cross? it's built and packaged, but no files from e-wm in tmp/cross
Dec 21 22:02:45 <CoreDump> e is pretty broken AFAIK
Dec 21 22:03:44 <tobb_> well I have it up and running on my zaurus
Dec 21 22:04:11 <CoreDump> really? People have been reporting problems w/ entrance
Dec 21 22:04:36 <tobb_> I don't use any loginmanager
Dec 21 22:05:05 <CoreDump> oh, the manual way works, yes ;)
Dec 21 22:05:37 <CoreDump> I had it running some time ago but found it to be not very suited for a VGA screen and a relatively weak CPU
Dec 21 22:05:57 <tobb_> it works with the gpe loginmanager too
Dec 21 22:07:11 <tobb_> true true, but another theme would fix that, almost everything is a module now so it's very suited for embedded
Dec 21 22:08:03 <CoreDump> http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/mhcln05/BB_NUMBER_THREATS=16.mpeg (download to HDD for best effect)
Dec 21 22:09:11 <tobb_> CoreDump: hoho :)
Dec 21 22:09:33 <CoreDump> insanity
Dec 21 22:14:36 <tobb_> is do_stage() where a .bb can install to cross/ ?
Dec 21 22:20:15 <tobb_> guess not
Dec 21 22:35:29 <tobb_> ah no need to, include was linked in cross, so nm
Dec 21 22:38:11 <tobb_> another question then, after I build a package or image, the Packages.gz in deploy/.../ipk/feeds arent updated
Dec 21 22:38:17 <tobb_> can I do it manually?
Dec 21 22:38:48 <CoreDump> bitbake package-index
Dec 21 22:40:22 <tobb_> CoreDump: oh nice, been looking for that one :)
Dec 21 23:26:26 * schme is trying out RC2 here.
Dec 22 00:10:51 <Blue89> why are there packages in the feed browser I can't download with ipkg?
Dec 22 00:14:33 <Sketch> they are probably not available for your arch
Dec 22 00:15:48 <Blue89> I was under the impression that all Angstrom devices are ARM...
Dec 22 00:18:05 * CoreDump points out that there are a bazillion different ARM CPUs
Dec 22 00:18:10 <Sketch> i don't think that is the case,and there are different versions of arm
Dec 22 00:19:14 <rwhitby> I know koen runs angstrom on non-arm devices
Dec 22 00:19:45 <Blue89> I just noticed the e-wm package is available for ppc and i686...
Dec 22 00:19:53 <CoreDump> =)
Dec 22 00:20:58 <CoreDump> bitbake x11-gpe-image 57m
Dec 22 00:28:40 <Blue89> ipkg update is generating error number 8 when unpacking the spitz information
Dec 22 00:29:08 <CoreDump> try adding some swap
Dec 22 02:02:06 <tobb_> I don't get it, is XSetPointerMapping weird on kdrive-imageon?, I set the mapping, and get it to see if it's changed, and it does, but clicking still gives me button 1
Dec 22 02:19:54 <tobb_> xmonobut with a keycode does not seem to work either...
Dec 22 02:29:03 <schme> I'm a bit confused about the ångström packages / feeds.  The package browser at angstrom-distribution.org lists a heckuva lot of packages that I can not find when I do ipkg list (irssi, emacs, and a bunch of others).  Do I need to configure it somehow to find the rest?
Dec 22 02:31:11 <tobb_> schme: I believe you need to add the unstable feed then
Dec 22 02:31:40 <tobb_> schme: do you have xmonobut running in your gpe environment? can you right-click ?
Dec 22 02:32:06 <schme> I'm supposed to know the answer to that, huh? :)
Dec 22 02:32:26 <tobb_> is there a little mouse with buttons in your taskbar?
Dec 22 02:32:34 <schme> No.
Dec 22 02:33:08 <schme> Do I just add http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/base/   to the feed list?
Dec 22 02:34:37 <tobb_> schme: I'm not sure about those ipkg files, you could create a /etc/ipkg/armv5te-feed.conf 
Dec 22 02:35:06 <tobb_> I don't think there is one there by default
Dec 22 02:36:07 <schme> No, there isn't.
Dec 22 02:37:23 <schme> Interesting. I'll solve this. Thx!
Dec 22 02:43:20 <schme> Now it refuses to boot ><
Dec 22 02:43:23 <schme> Grrr!
Dec 22 02:58:10 <schme> Shit I think I killed it. NAND restore and I still can't get anything working.
Dec 22 02:59:32 <tobb_> how?
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