**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 28 02:59:56 2007 Dec 28 04:01:42 Is oe bugs down? Can't seem to get to it. http://bugs.openembedded.org/ Dec 28 04:03:45 seems like it is to me Dec 28 04:04:22 or the server is under heavy load Dec 28 04:06:27 thanks Taekero. Will just wait it out then :-) Dec 28 04:12:39 agittins: do you have any experience in kernel hacking? Dec 28 04:12:49 not yet :-) Dec 28 04:13:16 lol, alright, any idea where the kernel configs/etc. are stored in OE? Dec 28 04:13:34 i've mucked around with patching kernels etc in the past for various purposes, and have done some tiny silly hacks, but not by any means a kernel hacker Dec 28 04:14:51 hehe i actually just blatted away my OE environment and am starting again... taking a look though.... Dec 28 04:15:59 mm... I'm willing to start screwing with the kernel to see if we can't get collie up and running Dec 28 04:16:04 lol, my internet is hugely screwy at this point, otherwise I'd go look it up somewhere(or at least google around) Dec 28 04:16:28 and with that, I'm gonna quit IRC, and maybe free something up Dec 28 10:29:07 Release announcement for ixp4xxle and ixp4xxbe sent. Dec 28 10:38:17 hrw, got my prism2 card going in angstrom, hostap_cs didn't have proper ids for it Dec 28 10:39:17 Taekero: then give me pccardctl ident output Dec 28 10:39:24 and it will Dec 28 10:42:32 "The Linksys Group, Inc.", "Wireless Network CF Card", "ISL37300P", "RevA", 0xa5f472c2, 0x9c05598d, 0xc9049a39, 0x57a66194 -- manfid: 0x0274, 0x3301 Dec 28 10:43:01 not sure how specific you want to be with it :) Dec 28 10:43:20 otherwise i would have had you a patch Dec 28 10:44:03 I can generate patch from it Dec 28 10:46:02 for the record, thats a WCF11 Dec 28 10:46:18 ok, which device? Dec 28 10:46:45 hmm? Dec 28 10:46:50 which zaurus Dec 28 10:46:53 poodle Dec 28 10:47:11 ok Dec 28 10:47:58 I will build kernel + modules for you Dec 28 10:48:11 oh i aready have one :) Dec 28 10:48:17 you have 2.6.17 now? Dec 28 10:48:21 yeah Dec 28 10:48:32 can you test 2.6.23 for me? Dec 28 10:48:36 sure Dec 28 10:48:39 cool Dec 28 10:48:46 i've been working on getting root on sd.. heheh Dec 28 10:48:56 without altboot Dec 28 10:49:15 you can recompile kernel with other root= option Dec 28 10:49:45 yeah, defconfig-poodle, correct? Dec 28 10:50:02 or is there a way to make custom configs i should know about Dec 28 10:51:07 this one Dec 28 10:51:16 but kernel cmdline is set by linux-rp.inc Dec 28 10:51:24 ahha Dec 28 10:55:38 was the best birthday present today to find that the suspend/display issues had been fixed on poodle :) Dec 28 10:55:50 ;) Dec 28 11:04:02 knock on wood, i haven't had any hard lockups on the poodle yet with angstrom.. i'd get them a lot with oz Dec 28 11:05:11 we'll see after i get links back on here, and stress it a bit with html rendering and memory swapping Dec 28 11:07:39 sorry - kernel is too big Dec 28 11:07:47 will have to look more at it Dec 28 11:07:53 mm okay Dec 28 11:08:35 i might have to hand you my patches to links in graphical mode.. i got it working with tslib directly... needs to be cleaned up though Dec 28 11:09:17 send to bugtracker Dec 28 11:09:38 i'll work on some cleanup Dec 28 11:09:43 before i do that :) Dec 28 11:19:25 spectacular, booting from sd Dec 28 12:56:18 Taekero: http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/hostap_cs.ko - use it on your 2.6.17 poodle Dec 28 12:57:28 hrw|afk, thanks, you didn't have to :) Dec 28 12:58:02 Taekero: use it and report Dec 28 12:58:14 not only you will gain from it Dec 28 12:58:29 ah, test okay Dec 28 13:00:54 Hi all Dec 28 13:01:24 ho pto Dec 28 13:03:01 Anyone here hacking on Compulab ENC-X270 (i.e. X270 which is a PXA270) Dec 28 13:03:47 you mean em-x270? Dec 28 13:04:42 naa - however very similar; http://www.compulab.co.il/x270cm/html/x270-enc-datasheet.htm Dec 28 13:05:14 The difference seems to be in the display part Dec 28 13:05:49 EM-X270 has a display, and ENC-X270 is a wire/wireless "server" Dec 28 13:06:36 hrw, as expected, works... hopped on my network and got dhcp lease Dec 28 13:06:59 Anyway - I want to setup my scratchbox toolchain Dec 28 13:08:04 ... never tried scratchbox before Dec 28 13:08:11 Taekero: cool Dec 28 13:08:16 pto: use OpenEmbedded Dec 28 13:11:07 hrw: at http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted ? Dec 28 13:12:05 yes Dec 28 13:14:33 running there :) Dec 28 13:17:20 Taekero: patch which adds card sent upstream Dec 28 13:17:35 hrw, awesome. Dec 28 13:17:59 thats why reporting card is so important Dec 28 13:18:30 generating patches which adds pcmcia/cf cards takes small time Dec 28 13:20:36 !lart Paul S Dec 28 13:20:36 * cdbot2 stabs Paul S Dec 28 13:22:34 now if only my pentium d 840 had good cooling, i'd be building on it.. hopefully i'll get that taken care of soon :) Dec 28 16:54:11 hvontres|work: hey Dec 28 16:58:20 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/12/28/zaurus-kernel-config-generation/ anyone? Dec 28 16:58:38 can anyone else build fakeroot? I'm getting a do_fetch error Dec 28 17:01:10 http://mirror.hentges.net/SonkeiSourceMirror/raw/ Dec 28 17:02:52 hrw: good idea Dec 28 17:03:02 !lart gcc internal errors Dec 28 17:03:02 * cdbot2 frags gcc internal errors with his BFG9000 Dec 28 17:03:07 hrw: I'll test spitz Dec 28 17:06:31 is bugs.openembedded.org down? Dec 28 17:06:55 yep Dec 28 17:07:19 ggilbert mentioend he would be doing some work on the server Dec 28 17:08:55 CoreDump: morning :) Dec 28 17:09:57 hrw: I'll take a look at poodle when I get home tonight Dec 28 17:10:11 hrw: unless RP beats me to it :) Dec 28 17:11:14 CoreDump: this kernel will probably fail Dec 28 17:11:31 RP now fight with poodle size Dec 28 17:12:42 hrw: yeah. I wound up making pcmcia a module for 2.6.23 last night.... Dec 28 17:13:25 * hvontres|work wonders if we could get u-bot or grub to sit in place of the actual kernel on a Z... Dec 28 17:14:22 sadly this is conidered as too much work :\ u-boot would need some porting, even for the devices that pdax already supported. Dec 28 17:14:42 hrw: One thing I have been able to do so far is flash a 2.6.17 kernel with kexec and atag support to boot a 2.6.23 kernel from the SD card Dec 28 17:16:46 I think that there is other way Dec 28 17:17:08 anyone here with a c7x0 willing to help me debug the altboot issue? Dec 28 17:17:33 building minimalistic kernel (500-700KB size) + initramfs with busybox and kexec (uclibc/thumb for space saving) Dec 28 17:19:38 hrw: sounds interesting... Dec 28 17:19:46 * hvontres|work needs to get back to work :) Dec 28 17:24:28 CoreDump: my c7x0 does not want to boot Dec 28 17:24:56 no worries, I'll find a victim sooner or later =) Dec 28 17:27:45 CoreDump: did you ever get your poodle working again? Dec 28 17:28:01 I haven't tried yet (still on holidays) Dec 28 17:28:08 CoreDump: np. Dec 28 17:28:57 * hvontres|work is looking for feedback on his curses altboot interface before doing more work on it Dec 28 17:29:22 altboot, initramfs-bootmenu... Dec 28 17:29:32 hrw: your split-up defconfig would probably take forever to sort out for out devices. Maybe just splitt between a per-machine "=y" and a common =m ? Dec 28 17:30:34 its not so easy Dec 28 17:33:10 lol. someone unsubscribed Aaron from the Angstrom lists for voicing his opinion Dec 28 17:33:23 Way. To. Go. Dec 28 17:36:50 8-( Dec 28 17:37:03 it's a pitty to see that waste of energy ... Dec 28 17:49:02 hvontres|work: update OE and then test kernel Dec 28 17:52:00 bye Dec 28 18:12:24 heya is anyone else having trouble with the latest spitz anggstrom builds? I can install them but they wont boot... Dec 28 18:15:23 define "wont boot" Dec 28 18:15:42 and where did you get your images from? Dec 28 18:16:45 got my image from here: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/RC1/ Dec 28 18:16:54 and when i press the pwoer switch i get a flash of light, then it turns straight off again Dec 28 18:16:58 right, these don't boot Dec 28 18:17:04 ahhh :) Dec 28 18:17:25 the question is where the recent images are hidden Dec 28 18:17:58 pretty bad release candidate if you ask me ;) Dec 28 18:18:00 CoreDump: I'm looking at that link you gave earlier for fakeroot, and I downloaded the correct version and md5sum, but I can't get OE to recognize it Dec 28 18:18:08 CoreDump: they hidden right now then? Dec 28 18:18:34 daresbalat: not exactly, but the download URLs appear to be ever changing Dec 28 18:18:48 here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/spitz/ ? Dec 28 18:18:52 CoreDump: maybe leave it a week or 2 and try again then? Dec 28 18:19:13 cyrilRomain: thanks for that ill give ti a go Dec 28 18:19:30 cyrilRomain: that's the one, thanks Dec 28 18:19:37 daresbalat: use the RC3 images Dec 28 18:20:00 summatusmentis: hmm that should work Dec 28 18:20:08 great, thanks both of you Dec 28 18:20:46 summatusmentis: is there a fakeroot*.lock file? If so, trash it Dec 28 18:22:43 daresbalat: np Dec 28 18:23:13 * cyrilRomain quotting koen: "If you point your newsreader to Dec 28 18:23:15 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/rss.php you will get a list of uploaded files and the time that happened." Dec 28 18:24:01 * CoreDump usually compiles his own images ;) Dec 28 18:24:54 hehe well im not an angstrom developer geek i just wanna make this pda work ;) lol Dec 28 18:25:28 no worries, RC3 should work just fine. Dec 28 18:25:42 CoreDump: there was, but now I'm in the middle of cycling through every debian server, ever, to try and find fakeroot :-/ Dec 28 18:25:53 The problem with RC1 was a broken updater.sh which left you with a broken kernel Dec 28 18:26:07 doh, im getting the same thing :( Dec 28 18:26:35 did you delete the old updater.sh? Dec 28 18:26:46 yeah Dec 28 18:26:52 wiped everything and put on the new files Dec 28 18:27:06 ahem Dec 28 18:28:13 summatusmentis: fakeroot builds here Dec 28 18:29:11 CoreDump: might be my network... we use satellite internet, and the dish needs repair, which means our internet as been extremely screwy Dec 28 18:29:49 it should pick up your local copy in any case Dec 28 18:30:05 daresbalat: try this one: http://hentges.net/tmp/updater.sh Dec 28 18:30:24 just trying it 1 more time Dec 28 18:30:31 then ill try that one, thanks :) Dec 28 18:33:01 CoreDump: alright, after it failed to login to any of the 25 debian servers all over the world, it recognized the local version Dec 28 18:33:01 thanks Dec 28 18:33:04 ahh works this time, maybe i just demounted the cf card messily or something :p heh Dec 28 18:33:22 np Dec 28 18:34:35 so...anyone here with a c7x0 by chance? Dec 28 18:34:51 so now all i gotta do is get the networking working and get it to sync with kdp-pim... sigh :) Dec 28 18:36:54 anyone know if the wireless support is working again? Dec 28 18:37:38 It was never broken AFAICT Dec 28 18:38:09 ah when i asked in here a while ago someone said the wireless module for wireless cf had been taken out the kernel... cant remeber what version Dec 28 18:38:32 hi Dec 28 18:39:01 last time I checked, WLAN w/ hostap worked OOTB Dec 28 18:39:06 humorum: welcome Dec 28 18:39:14 somebody asked us an wireless cf problem Dec 28 18:39:17 CoreDump: OOTB? Dec 28 18:39:21 CoreDump: good morning Dec 28 18:39:31 daresbalat: out of the box Dec 28 18:39:56 CoreDump: hmm ok, so theoretically i just bung my detials in the thing for wlan0? Dec 28 18:40:10 right Dec 28 18:40:24 but the GUIs for that are usually broken =) Dec 28 18:41:03 yeah :p im getting that, hahaha Dec 28 18:41:03 editing /etc/network/interfaces is what you probably want, it ships with examples for WEP and WPA Dec 28 18:41:07 cool Dec 28 18:42:23 anyone know how you specify a hex wireless key from memory? mehhh Dec 28 18:43:20 wireless-key AA:BB:CC:DD:EE ? Dec 28 18:43:32 ah ok no prefix? cool Dec 28 18:43:54 the s: is only for ASCII Dec 28 18:44:19 i hate wep encryption :\ sadly this is a shitty ISP supplied router and ya cant turn it off Dec 28 18:44:57 im getting "error for wireless request "set encode": SET feailed on device wlan0: no such device Dec 28 18:44:59 thats bad right? Dec 28 18:45:17 hello! Dec 28 18:45:35 gmad: hi Dec 28 18:45:39 gmad: welcome Dec 28 18:45:53 happy new year! Dec 28 18:46:05 daresbalat: try the key w/o ":" Dec 28 18:46:21 yeah ive just got it straight atm Dec 28 18:46:33 Angstrom feed server is so slow... Dec 28 18:46:33 wireless_key e528blahblah Dec 28 18:46:41 that works? Dec 28 18:46:52 hmm, Dec 28 18:47:12 CoreDump: nope just getting the cant find interface thing Dec 28 18:47:18 please hit 'ifconfig -a' Dec 28 18:47:51 ah, loads wrong driver probably. hostap vs orinico or vice versa Dec 28 18:48:01 humorum: im getiin irda0, lo and usb0 Dec 28 18:48:01 anyway, gotta jump. bbl Dec 28 18:48:06 if wlan0 or eth0 is not found, it is the network interface is not recognized. Dec 28 18:48:13 ahh boo :( ah well Dec 28 18:48:18 thanks for your help CoreDump :) Dec 28 18:48:29 you're welcome =) Dec 28 18:49:02 I've installed rox-filler with dependencies, how to start rox pinboard? Dec 28 18:49:09 has anyone managed to get an internet connection working from their Z? ive followed every usb networking thing i can find and no cigar Dec 28 18:50:09 my angstrom can connect with wireless-cf card with orinoco driver. Dec 28 18:50:23 "collie support manual"... anyone have any idea where I can find collie documentation? Dec 28 18:50:26 :( what card is it? Dec 28 18:50:39 hmm, it is very rare card Dec 28 18:50:51 maybe you don't know Dec 28 18:50:55 it would be :p haha why is nothignw ith linux ever simple? Dec 28 18:51:00 Thomas Kunze(on the devel list) suggested I get a hold of documentation so I can start looking at kernel stuff for the collie Dec 28 18:51:04 first, the card was not recognized Dec 28 18:51:20 and I made the kernel patch to recognize it Dec 28 18:51:28 AH IM AN IDIOT Dec 28 18:51:32 i had the wrong card in :p Dec 28 18:51:36 still same message though Dec 28 18:51:38 hmmmm Dec 28 18:51:59 if you are luckey, loading driver makes you happy ! Dec 28 18:52:24 insmod orinoco_cs Dec 28 18:52:28 insmod orinoco Dec 28 18:53:06 cool Dec 28 18:54:15 if you have tool-chains to build kernels, Dec 28 18:54:37 hmm both of them return an error, no such fire or directory Dec 28 18:54:42 you can find out the entry in the following file Dec 28 18:54:46 linux-2.6.23.orinoco/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco_cs.c Dec 28 18:54:57 linux-2.6.23/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco_cs.c Dec 28 18:55:08 ive just got a stock RC3 install will that work? Dec 28 18:55:35 I don't know, but cf-entry may be not updated... Dec 28 18:56:11 hmm ok Dec 28 18:56:15 i think i might call it a day Dec 28 18:56:20 thanks for your help :) Dec 28 18:56:22 did you try 'pccardctl info' ? Dec 28 18:56:27 one sec Dec 28 18:56:58 hmm Dec 28 18:57:01 it returns some stuff Dec 28 18:57:04 am i looking for anything? Dec 28 18:58:00 PRODID_1 and MANFID is important Dec 28 18:58:41 prodid_1=hitatchi Dec 28 18:58:44 summatusmentis: I have a copy. I'll forward it to you Dec 28 18:58:47 prodid+2=microdrive Dec 28 18:59:02 and theres 2 manif IDs here Dec 28 19:00:32 im guessing there should be an entry for the CF card too if its working? Dec 28 19:00:38 hvontres|work: thanks Dec 28 19:01:23 hitachi is the harddisk, it means your Z is SL-C3000/3100/3200. Dec 28 19:01:34 yeah Dec 28 19:01:35 ah well Dec 28 19:01:38 enough for today, thanks :) Dec 28 19:01:46 see ya Dec 28 19:01:53 good luck Dec 28 20:56:16 hi Dec 28 21:15:33 hi Dec 28 22:09:07 well..my zaurus doesn't turn on anymore.. Dec 28 23:00:19 ha? Dec 28 23:32:26 bgold: Tried nand restore? Dec 29 00:47:53 schme: didn't work :( Dec 29 00:51:16 bgold: You don't get the menu for doing the nand restore? Dec 29 00:51:30 schme: i did a nand restore but my Cf card dopesn't work Dec 29 00:51:51 Oooh! Dec 29 00:52:00 I thought you were referring to it not turning on anymore. Dec 29 00:52:27 ohh, for some reason i left it charging for like 2 minutes and it turned on Dec 29 00:52:50 Weird. Too bad about the cf. This the linksys one? Dec 29 00:53:13 What output does loading the module give ya? Dec 29 00:53:55 yeh Dec 29 00:54:01 doesn't give me any output Dec 29 00:54:06 no imformation provided Dec 29 00:54:31 i just contacted direct from japan and asked them if I can return it, if i can't get it to work within the next couple of days its going back to japan ;\ Dec 29 00:54:53 Nothing in dmesg after the insmod? Dec 29 00:55:11 nope Dec 29 00:55:11 insmod usually only reports errors. Dec 29 00:55:20 dmesg just says a cf card was inserted Dec 29 00:58:07 Is the module loaded? Dec 29 00:58:50 what module? Dec 29 00:59:14 The driver module for the wifi card. Dec 29 00:59:30 lsmod | grep orinoco Dec 29 00:59:43 i loaded orinoco Dec 29 00:59:58 ive done plrenty of things but the problem is Dec 29 01:00:04 its not recognizing that its a cf card Dec 29 01:00:12 its naming it "Anonymous Memory" Dec 29 01:00:30 Weird. Dec 29 01:00:33 nothing in iwconfig` Dec 29 01:00:34 ? Dec 29 01:00:42 nope Dec 29 01:00:55 socket 0 : no information provided Dec 29 01:01:03 im actually begining to believe there is osmething wrong with my zaurus itself Dec 29 01:04:43 I get. pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 1 followed with pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia1.0 then host_ap detects it as a wifi card. Dec 29 01:05:36 is there any output from pccard or pcmcia in the dmesg? Dec 29 01:09:57 umm Dec 29 01:09:59 not sure Dec 29 01:10:03 it just says Dec 29 01:10:09 pcmcia card has been inserted to socket 0 Dec 29 01:15:37 dmesg | grep pcmcia ; dmesg | grep pccard ; dmesg | grep orinoco Dec 29 01:16:12 hmm one second Dec 29 01:21:37 alright Dec 29 01:21:42 only thing that comes up is Dec 29 01:22:03 pxa_pcmcia_init(0) pxa_pcmcia_init(1) Dec 29 01:22:16 Huh. Dec 29 01:22:26 it just shows those 2 lines of text Dec 29 01:22:53 What os are you on? Dec 29 01:23:23 cacko, been switching around trying different things Dec 29 01:23:40 Can't help you much then. Dec 29 01:23:54 wouldn't get the same result? Dec 29 01:25:10 Perhaps. The issue is more that different OS have different layouts and different pecularities. I'm not even sure what modules there are available on cacko, or if there are bizarre patchwork done etc. Dec 29 01:25:33 gotchya Dec 29 01:25:52 well, it is japenese ;\ .. i guess i could of saw the worst coming .. for me i guess Dec 29 01:26:07 guess the Zaurus isn't for me or i just got the worst luck ever and got a faulty zaurus Dec 29 01:26:26 I suggest you install an angstrom console image for starters and then I can probably help you a lot more. Dec 29 01:26:42 well you were triyng to help me before remember Dec 29 01:26:52 and you concluded that my card was broken :P Dec 29 01:28:21 Not this card. Dec 29 01:29:06 true Dec 29 01:29:10 I'm mostly interested in the dmesg output from an angstrom install. Dec 29 01:29:27 alright, well i don't have much time tonight so I will install angstrom and talk to you tomorrow about it Dec 29 01:29:42 Good luck there :) Dec 29 01:30:07 Don't you have a cf memory card or something to try? Dec 29 01:30:14 I mean to see if the bus is working. Dec 29 01:33:51 yes Dec 29 01:33:53 and it works Dec 29 01:34:11 Ok, then I seriously don't think that the Z is busted. Dec 29 01:34:11 you don't understand how frusterating this thing is Dec 29 01:34:16 i almost just want to throw it in the dam trash can Dec 29 01:34:38 Hehehe. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 29 02:59:56 2007