**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 30 02:59:57 2007 Dec 30 05:37:10 why does package QA check .desktop files? Dec 30 05:40:38 I get errors on a .desktop file that looks fine to me, no real error message either Dec 30 06:28:53 I can't find any .desktop file that the qa accepts Dec 30 06:45:05 nvm, a mtn update fixed the problem :) Dec 30 09:49:39 ant_: you got a c7x0? Dec 30 10:14:35 tobb: hi Dec 30 10:14:50 tobb: I have two SL-C860 Dec 30 10:14:55 ant_: hello Dec 30 10:15:28 ant_: have you tried if you can right click with xserver-imageon 1.2? Dec 30 10:15:32 or middle Dec 30 10:15:59 tobb: gimme an ex with an app please Dec 30 10:16:41 tobb: usually I only need 1 button Dec 30 10:16:58 on the building angstrom page, the link to bitbake points to version 1.8.4 specifically... any reason not to use the later 1.8.8? Dec 30 10:17:07 ant_: xev will print what keys are pressed Dec 30 10:17:32 ant_: do a xmodmap -e "pointer 3 2 1" and see if Button 3 is pressed in xev Dec 30 10:18:12 tobb: oops Dec 30 10:18:33 tobb: bad buttons pointer code list, missing equal sign Dec 30 10:18:49 tobb: yea, sory Dec 30 10:19:58 tobb: which application should I try Dec 30 10:20:00 ? Dec 30 10:20:05 ant_: xev Dec 30 10:20:29 ant_: it'll print to stdout what keys/buttons are pressed Dec 30 10:20:34 tobb: xev: not found Dec 30 10:20:42 ipkg install xev Dec 30 10:20:53 tobb: I have a fresh x11 image Dec 30 10:21:10 tobb: I didn't add much yet... Dec 30 10:21:24 tobb: I'm debugging gps / bluetooth Dec 30 10:21:33 tobb: atm Dec 30 10:21:37 ant_: so it's not online? Dec 30 10:21:59 tobb: which image did you install for c7x0? Dec 30 10:22:54 ant_: console-image, I add stuff afterwards Dec 30 10:23:10 shodan: look here for the env http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Dec 30 10:23:33 tobb: let me install xev - one moment Dec 30 10:23:53 ant_: I did compile a console-image with overclocked cpufreqs if you're interested, works nice with automatic speedstepping Dec 30 10:24:08 tobb: ;-) Dec 30 10:25:03 ant_: yeah, found the more detailed instructions Dec 30 10:25:06 tobb: If u-boot becomes real, we could have a turbo-kernel Dec 30 10:25:18 tobb: and a stock one Dec 30 10:25:22 yes, _if_ Dec 30 10:25:35 CoreDump: he he Dec 30 10:25:42 it would solve a great deal of problems on the Zaurus line Dec 30 10:25:56 CoreDump: you live in DE? Dec 30 10:26:02 yes Dec 30 10:26:19 CoreDump: for the serial cable you could start with an old Siemens Dec 30 10:26:28 CoreDump: if you find it Dec 30 10:26:47 CoreDump: for the RS 232 I bought one in Muenchen Dec 30 10:26:52 nah, it's allright. I need to order a new WLAN NIC at trisoft anyway ;) Dec 30 10:27:14 ant_: I soldered a converter for my NSLU2 Dec 30 10:27:15 CoreDump: frage nach Weihnachtsgeschenk Dec 30 10:27:24 CoreDump: ;-)) Dec 30 10:27:31 ant_: I got one with the last delivery =) Dec 30 10:27:43 the 15cm penguin the have in the shop =D Dec 30 10:27:47 CoreDump: they are very nice guys, indeed Dec 30 10:28:19 very good customer service. I usually recommend them for Z stuff Dec 30 10:29:06 there is a guy here that already spent like 200$ in search for a working WLAN NIC hehe Dec 30 10:29:18 CoreDump: I read... Dec 30 10:29:19 he wouldn't listen and just ask trisoft Dec 30 10:29:25 *shrug* Dec 30 10:29:50 CoreDump: 3 defective cards...can happen... Dec 30 10:30:00 true Dec 30 10:30:10 CoreDump: the best part was when he wrote Dec 30 10:30:24 CoreDump: if somebody cross him on the street Dec 30 10:30:33 CoreDump: away..away..! Dec 30 10:30:43 CoreDump: lol Dec 30 10:30:46 =) Dec 30 10:31:47 CoreDump: I gess he's talented for such writings! Dec 30 10:32:00 *gess ???? Dec 30 10:32:05 guess Dec 30 10:32:17 ;) Dec 30 10:32:22 CoreDump: the kb is "crusty" ... Dec 30 10:32:52 CoreDump: ..must wait aster for next clean up ! Dec 30 10:32:56 *Easter Dec 30 10:33:05 CoreDump: =) Dec 30 10:33:33 * ant thinks: today buy one by FNAC Dec 30 10:34:50 * ant needs badly caffeine Dec 30 10:35:30 ant|away: don't forget xev Dec 30 10:37:28 shodan45: 1.8.8 and later is recommended Dec 30 10:38:51 * CoreDump is off to try unb0rking his WLAN router.... Dec 30 10:43:54 "Your message to Angstrom-distro-devel awaits moderator approval" Dec 30 10:44:03 that smells like root-abuse Dec 30 10:44:52 CoreDump: the link on the building-angstrom page shouldn't highlight a specific version I guess Dec 30 10:45:04 true Dec 30 10:45:26 CoreDump: after digging around a bit more I found the answer, but still Dec 30 10:48:37 who's the moderator then Dec 30 10:49:38 shodan45: I just sent an email to koen to update the link Dec 30 10:50:00 cyrilRomain: oh ok, cool Dec 30 10:50:27 heh, you mean I actually helped with something? ;p Dec 30 10:50:33 shodan45: yes :) Dec 30 10:50:55 tobb: koen Dec 30 10:51:45 heh, .mtn files are really just sqlite? Dec 30 10:51:50 thats kinda cool Dec 30 10:51:54 he put me into moderation mode for stating my opinion. Last time he even revoked my OE commit access =) Dec 30 10:53:20 angstrom needs a BDFL person Dec 30 10:53:38 !google define: BDFL Dec 30 10:53:40 Dictador bienintencionado vitalicio (Benevolent Dictator For Life), alias Guido van Rossum, el creador de Python. @ http://pyspanishdoc.sourceforge.net/tut/node18.html ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=all&q=define:+BDFL ) Dec 30 10:53:53 CoreDump: hehe, sounds like a sensitive guy :) Dec 30 10:54:56 CoreDump: you care to point out what opionion you got moderated for? Dec 30 10:55:42 that would be the " OE & Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET)" thread Dec 30 10:56:00 oh no, not that thread again Dec 30 10:57:24 * ant filters that tread as SCAM Dec 30 10:57:37 todd: I installed xev and.. Dec 30 10:57:46 todd: perhaps I'm dumb Dec 30 10:58:13 todd: but how is it supposed to be launched from console ? Dec 30 10:59:01 just xev Dec 30 10:59:17 cyrilRomain: should we start a Nigerian-Bank thread to stop the guys? Dec 30 10:59:39 Never mind, the thread is closed by the looks of it Dec 30 10:59:48 ant_: ;} Dec 30 11:01:01 todd: you there? Dec 30 11:01:44 CoreDump: please give me an example of apps using right button...(no Gimp pls) Dec 30 11:02:26 well Dec 30 11:02:28 CoreDump: lately my Z works in console-mode ;-) Dec 30 11:02:39 click+hold should result in a right-click Dec 30 11:03:37 CoreDump: I don't see any menu appear... Dec 30 11:04:08 oh, the GPE panel has a right-click menu Dec 30 11:05:04 CoreDump: OK, I somehow overlooked it Dec 30 11:05:16 CoreDump: and for the 3rd btn? Dec 30 11:05:26 no idea Dec 30 11:05:35 CoreDump: gimp Dec 30 11:05:46 I don't think there is an OOTB way for MMB Dec 30 11:06:18 CoreDump: but with the su*@ing partition don't have place anymore on flash... Dec 30 11:06:35 CoreDump: on / Dec 30 11:06:47 you can thank koen for removing ipkg-link Dec 30 11:07:01 CoreDump: schnell mit u-boot ! Dec 30 11:07:20 CoreDump: bitte Dec 30 11:07:31 I don't think the ancient version supports mmc.... Dec 30 11:07:39 it is hard-coded for flash-booting Dec 30 11:07:41 CoreDump: ough Dec 30 11:07:56 it can probably boot off CF Dec 30 11:08:29 but would need some serious hackery to install ATM ;) Dec 30 11:09:04 CoreDump: install u-boot from CF was a nightmare at the very beginning. Dec 30 11:09:14 CoreDump: on pdaxrom for c7x0 Dec 30 11:09:30 well, I found it rather painless actually Dec 30 11:09:33 CoreDump: I remember was only from SD Dec 30 11:09:51 CoreDump: I reformatted my CF ten times ...;-) Dec 30 11:09:54 no, the version I used didn't care for the source location Dec 30 11:10:17 bad card maybe? Dec 30 11:10:35 CoreDump: no, sash released a patch after a while Dec 30 11:10:48 CoreDump: bleeding edge... Dec 30 11:11:15 I've hacked the angstrom updater to install u-boot. But you'd need to install a new emergency system as well Dec 30 11:11:36 CoreDump: fine for me, I found some scripts for the nand backups Dec 30 11:12:16 CoreDump: http://www.seicento.selfip.org/ Dec 30 11:13:06 CoreDump: http://www.seicento.selfip.org/zaurus/issues/nand_backup.html Dec 30 11:13:55 CoreDump: at least some ideas Dec 30 11:16:29 ant_: just start xev from a terminal, click in the window, go back to the terminal and check what button was released Dec 30 11:21:57 ant_: I don't see him doing anything special besides backing up the rootfs. Backing up u-boot and friends is pointless as re-installing it via the pdaxrom script does exactly the same Dec 30 11:22:02 tobb: focus event, serial 19 Dec 30 11:22:05 anyway, bbib Dec 30 11:22:08 bbiab Dec 30 11:22:34 CoreDump: I meant if you change the partitions size Dec 30 11:22:40 CoreDump: se you Dec 30 11:23:01 ant_: look two lines below it Dec 30 11:23:07 * ant promises he'll buy a new keyboard Dec 30 11:23:29 ant_: or easier, xev | grep button Dec 30 11:23:46 tobb: should I close it or let it run ? Dec 30 11:24:17 ant_: start it anew, with the pipe and grep Dec 30 11:24:53 tobb: only button 1 Dec 30 11:25:20 okey, then it's confirmed Dec 30 11:25:52 tobb: but panel manager works...with 2 buttons Dec 30 11:26:47 tobb: why is the event not tracked ? Dec 30 11:26:48 ant_: but nothing else will Dec 30 11:27:26 dunno what special hacks that panel has, but what xev says that's what's really happening Dec 30 11:29:00 tobb: did you have valid ts calibration settings on first boot? Dec 30 11:29:17 tobb: I couldn't close the windows... Dec 30 11:29:28 tobb: need recalibration Dec 30 11:30:25 ant_: now that you mention it... Dec 30 11:31:11 tobb: there are soo many gpe bugs that this one is at the end of the list... Dec 30 11:31:39 ant_: which gpe bug? Dec 30 11:31:47 tobb: BTW I'm scared by the lack of /etc/localtime Dec 30 11:32:18 tobb: I admit with 2007-12 release the panotrama is better Dec 30 11:32:35 tobb: at least the settings applets ask for root password Dec 30 11:32:49 tobb: instead of letting you think you've set... Dec 30 11:33:24 tobb: and doing nothing Dec 30 11:33:44 ant_: I don't really care for that gpe/gtk stuff, I think it's a bit ugly and slow, I do my settings from console Dec 30 11:34:28 tobb: the limit is there is noyhing but GPE atm Dec 30 11:34:59 * this was my finger and not the old keyboard Dec 30 11:35:03 *nothing Dec 30 11:36:08 ant_: I use e17 with lots of terminals (I've got a feed for it too :) ) Dec 30 11:36:30 some folks are working on getting opie in a useable state again Dec 30 11:37:13 CoreDump: yeah, Dec 30 11:37:22 CoreDump: would it mean SDL ? Dec 30 11:38:08 tobb: I admit I tried e very long ago Dec 30 11:38:27 tobb: perhaps now works ! Dec 30 11:38:33 yes, SDL works if one does take special care at compile-time Dec 30 11:38:42 CoreDump: nice! Dec 30 11:38:52 CoreDump: have you seen Navit ? Dec 30 11:38:58 nope Dec 30 11:39:14 well, saw a screenshot from the OM folks Dec 30 11:39:47 CoreDump: is slow to load but then works on c7x0 Dec 30 11:39:55 CoreDump: gtk Dec 30 11:40:14 http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Main_Page Dec 30 11:40:45 CoreDump: xjqian is working on this Dec 30 11:40:49 right Dec 30 11:40:57 looks useful Dec 30 11:41:02 CoreDump: but for SDL... Dec 30 11:41:14 maybe I can use the Neo for something afterall =) Dec 30 11:41:38 CoreDump: BTW Koen suggested to give a try to quasar Dec 30 11:41:53 CoreDump: it is QT and installs a libsdl... Dec 30 11:42:07 =) Dec 30 11:42:07 CoreDump: and a lot of other stuff... Dec 30 11:42:15 never heard of it Dec 30 11:42:27 router needs reboot Dec 30 11:43:07 CoreDump: quasar is another media-player Dec 30 11:44:08 CoreDump: back to Navit I can suggest you th buy the Marco Polo Grosse Reiseplaner Europa 2007-2008 Dec 30 11:44:15 CoreDump: is ok! Dec 30 11:44:34 CoreDump: DE is very detailed Dec 30 11:44:58 CoreDump: ..even with restaurants Dec 30 11:45:06 CoreDump: welcome back! Dec 30 11:45:31 and it works with navit? Dec 30 11:45:36 I mean the maps do Dec 30 11:45:38 CoreDump: yes! Dec 30 11:45:47 good to know, thank you! Dec 30 11:45:52 CoreDump: needs a little vm hack... Dec 30 11:46:33 CoreDump: echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory Dec 30 11:47:23 CoreDump: navit.xml needs some small patch Dec 30 11:47:56 CoreDump: and other minor fixes Dec 30 11:48:10 CoreDump: I'm sure xjqian will provide these soon Dec 30 12:12:08 bbl Dec 30 17:49:04 schme: any luck with that java yet? Dec 30 19:18:46 does the zaurus support flash Dec 30 19:22:04 ?? Dec 30 19:22:33 oh, flash-install on spitz you mean? Not by default, no Dec 30 19:27:28 just wondering, since my c1000 has gone to the pits Dec 30 19:27:34 i might exchange it for a 3100 Dec 30 19:27:41 and ill probably be able to install debian or something on there Dec 30 19:29:14 killed you Z? Dec 30 19:30:44 no..i have bought 3 wireless cards and NONE OF THEM WORK Dec 30 19:30:47 so i give up Dec 30 19:30:58 :\ Dec 30 19:32:12 just want to make sure its possible to use flash..if its not im ganna try to get a refund Dec 30 19:32:30 games ftw :P Dec 30 19:36:00 what do you want the flash for when you get a 4-6GB MD? Dec 30 19:38:14 Stilgar: I haven't really had the time to take a deeper look at it. I still needs to build myself a javac (: Dec 30 19:38:17 occasional games Dec 30 19:38:20 :P Dec 30 19:38:27 hmm Dec 30 19:38:30 bgold: I'm quite sure that adobe does not have a flashplayer for arm. Dec 30 19:38:39 I have a patched up version of the download that I managed to compile. Dec 30 19:38:55 Care to have it? all you'll need to do is build it again, but for arm instead of i686. Dec 30 19:39:08 Stilgar: for flash? Dec 30 19:39:14 or for javac Dec 30 19:39:22 bgold: java Dec 30 19:39:28 awww lol Dec 30 19:39:38 oh....that flash Dec 30 19:39:49 Stilgar: No need. I'm sure I will have no trouble compiling without any problems anyway. If not I'll be back. Dec 30 19:40:10 bgold: You could perhaps get gnash to compile. That supports swf7 opcodes. Dec 30 19:40:16 bgold: Meaning it is pretty useless. Dec 30 19:40:30 schme: there are some hacks you'll need to do on the way. I'm sure an agile programmer like you will have no problems. Dec 30 19:40:47 Stilgar: What hacks? Dec 30 19:40:56 bgold: do you want to play flash movies (flv) or interactive apps? Dec 30 19:41:13 schme: the source there does not compile cleanly with gcc 4 Dec 30 19:41:14 occasioanl .swf games and or youtube ect. Dec 30 19:42:06 youtube you can download as flv and convert (not on the Z) Dec 30 19:42:34 yeh well for just browsing, its not really an ideal way to do it Dec 30 19:43:26 bgold: You will have to get adobe to produce a flashplayer for arm linux. Dec 30 19:44:10 Schme: let me just call up the lead developers ..ill convince them Dec 30 19:44:14 lol Dec 30 19:44:41 bgold: That or put some work in to get gnash to support newer flash opcodes. Dec 30 19:45:10 Stilgar: Ugh. Downloading stuff from sun always seems more complicated than it should be (: Dec 30 19:45:14 Schme, i can't even get my wireless cards to work .. lets be serious now :| Dec 30 19:45:16 * schme finds java development kit. Dec 30 19:45:29 ): Dec 30 19:45:36 their site is indeed a mess. Dec 30 19:52:19 * schme grabs yet another jdk. Dec 30 19:52:51 Their sites have a tendency to throw too much information right in my face and I lose track of what I should be clickin' Dec 30 19:55:57 this is what I found out so far Dec 30 19:57:08 Aah.. i needs to compile a few tools to unpack the source file. Dec 30 20:00:05 that's what I've gathered Dec 30 20:00:19 we can probably build the midp2 package for midp applets Dec 30 20:00:20 Huh? Dec 30 20:00:42 but it comes with an ugly, on screen, phone emulator. Dec 30 20:00:59 I've built the more extensive CDC virtual machine Dec 30 20:01:10 but I'm not sure how you run MIDP2 midlets with it Dec 30 20:02:44 You're way ahead of me. Dec 30 20:02:59 I'm building bison and yacc so I can build gawk to unpack the jdk source file and build the jdk. Dec 30 20:03:07 To later build that there jre. Dec 30 20:07:49 bgold: if you want to watch .flv videos then mplayer works Dec 30 20:14:57 tobb: yeh, but doesn't it take to long to download the swf from a website..convert it, then watch it? i mean if im browsing like youtube or break and its like funny clip, its a little monotinious to download the 30 second clip and convert it lol .. but yeh i guess its the only way Dec 30 20:15:45 bgold: you dont need to convert them Dec 30 20:16:33 tobb: if I don't need to conver them wouldn't I just be able to play them through the browser? how does that work if I don't have to convert them Dec 30 20:16:44 bgold: the videos on video.google.com are all 320x240, looks perfect on my zaurus after I switch resolution Dec 30 20:17:08 tobb: from the browser? or after downloading Dec 30 20:17:29 bgold: after downloading Dec 30 20:18:44 tobb: alright, but I was just wondering how it works. If it is download swf or w/e .. and then you play it as a flv isn't it converting somehow? Dec 30 20:19:02 schme: there may be something basic here. You can use the binary jdk for i386 to compile the .java files Dec 30 20:19:23 bgold: the videos on video.google.com are .flv by default, I jhust download and play Dec 30 20:19:26 Why would you want to build the jre yourself? Dec 30 20:20:13 tobb: is this the same for youtube? Dec 30 20:20:38 bgold: but I haven't tried downloading from my zaurus, firefox and midori are too slow for me Dec 30 20:21:52 bgold: testing Dec 30 20:22:24 tobb: kk, what Z do you have btw? Dec 30 20:22:32 860 Dec 30 20:22:40 how much was that Dec 30 20:23:04 nvm Dec 30 20:23:17 Stilgar: I'm planning to try to build it for arm. Dec 30 20:24:02 that's what I'm saying. you only need to build the personalprofile for arm. not the jdk itself. Dec 30 20:24:23 Stilgar: I think this is easier for me ;) Dec 30 20:24:52 Building coreutils now so I can unpack the sourcefile anyway. Dec 30 20:28:34 bgold: same resolution, so they work too, but I don't know how to download the videos without flash installed Dec 30 20:29:38 bgold: because without flash you'd get a "you need a newer version of Flash Player" Dec 30 20:36:12 tobb: so how did you do it without installing flash on your Z? Dec 30 20:37:22 bgold: I didn't, I download them on my desktop computer Dec 30 20:37:27 oh Dec 30 20:37:52 There's youtube-dl. Dec 30 20:37:59 bgold: there's alot of complete documentaries on google Dec 30 20:38:15 kk, thanks for the help tobb/schme Dec 30 20:38:30 schme: nice been looking for something like that Dec 30 20:38:45 http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/ Dec 30 22:03:09 hey everyone Dec 30 22:03:24 does anyone know how to adjust partition sizes on a poodle? Dec 30 22:04:16 angstrom does not allow that Dec 30 22:04:33 oh, why not? Dec 30 22:04:52 it never did, technical issues Dec 30 22:05:03 ah i c Dec 30 22:05:11 so if i try it with parted or something it will just bail on me? Dec 30 22:05:19 yep Dec 30 22:05:30 the kernel expects a fixed partition size for startes Dec 30 22:05:34 *starters Dec 30 22:05:46 haha alright thx, i guess i will just get good at installing to sd then Dec 30 22:05:54 =) Dec 30 22:06:05 thx for the help :) Dec 30 22:06:14 hasn't poodle been switched to native-root-on-sd anyway? Dec 30 22:06:23 marlecule: np ;) Dec 30 22:06:29 i dont think so... Dec 30 22:06:35 doh Dec 30 22:06:45 i can still boot without an sd card in the slot Dec 30 22:06:57 marlecule: CoreDump not quite... I am still working with RP to get cmdline support into OE Dec 30 22:07:18 ooo that would be so much cooler to have root on sd Dec 30 22:07:22 hvontres|afk: i see, a fixed CMDLINE would do the job as well in the meantime =) Dec 30 22:07:34 except.. then it would have to be ext2 right? could i still stick my card in my xp comp and put files on it? Dec 30 22:07:49 it would have to be ext2, yes Dec 30 22:08:01 you could exchange files via CF card Dec 30 22:08:10 my laptop has an sd reader tho Dec 30 22:08:14 or AFAIK someone wrote an ext2 driver for windows Dec 30 22:08:25 that would be nice Dec 30 22:08:26 marlecule: for now you can flash the altboot-console image and edit /etc/altboot-2.6.cfg to allow for root-on-SD installs Dec 30 22:09:14 hvontres|afk: ok thanks, i may play around with that in a bit Dec 30 22:09:30 i am fairly new to linux, but im learning lol Dec 30 22:09:57 i know a thing or two about embedded systems but that doesnt really help here Dec 30 22:10:34 marlecule: you want to change DISABLE_SD_BOOT to no Dec 30 22:10:53 OE has cmdline support now? Dec 30 22:11:06 RP: phhhtpppt Dec 30 22:11:24 RP: I was refering to kexec, sorry Dec 30 22:11:31 hvontres|afk: ok thanks, hey what about using cf? can i do that instead of sd? Dec 30 22:11:45 hvontres|home: yes, kexec cmdline is in, right? Dec 30 22:11:57 hvontres|afk: I pushed those two poodle patches too earlier today Dec 30 22:12:19 hvontres|home: I'm a little worried suspend/resume isn't working for you, that worked when I tested it Dec 30 22:12:23 marlecule: the only problem will be that you can't put in a CF wireless card Dec 30 22:12:58 true, but i was thinking about buying that sandisk connect plus, which has 128 megs on it as well Dec 30 22:13:00 RP: are they in .dev or also in angsrom Dec 30 22:13:19 marlecule: IIRC, you can't use both at the same time :) Dec 30 22:13:33 damn! lol ok Dec 30 22:14:10 out of curiosity then, if i forget about putting root on the cf card, can i then use wifi and mem at the same time? Dec 30 22:14:12 hvontres|home: I push to .dev, I have no idea what happens to get time into angstrom Dec 30 22:14:31 or should i not bother with that wifi card at all Dec 30 22:14:54 RP: ok. Did you push the sound fix as well? Dec 30 22:15:04 hvontres|home: yes Dec 30 22:15:08 * hvontres|home is pulling right now Dec 30 22:15:12 RP: cool Dec 30 22:15:23 hvontres|home: I didn't find that LED problem yet :/ Dec 30 22:17:26 RP: hmmm Dec 30 22:21:48 RP: rebuilding now :) Dec 30 22:30:52 RP: found a slight typo in linux-rp_2.6.23.bb: ${RPSRC}/poodle_serial_vcc.patch;patch=1 should be: ${RPSRC}/poodle_serial_vcc-r0.patch;patch=1 Dec 30 22:31:21 hvontres|home: oops Dec 30 22:32:06 * hvontres|home should start to revision his patches Dec 30 22:34:02 hvontres|home: fix pushing now Dec 30 22:37:13 marlecule: These are a little out of date, but you might find these images interestig as well: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/unsupported-images/poodle/ Dec 30 22:37:28 marlecule: let me know if you run into any problems with thoses. Dec 30 22:37:57 ok thx, are those root on sd? Dec 30 22:38:46 marlecule: they can be. The readme.txt file has a short explanation. Dec 30 22:47:02 ok cool, thanks! Dec 30 23:02:35 schme: are you still around? Dec 30 23:02:57 if you are, you can take a look at: phoneme.dev.java.net Dec 30 23:03:06 Stilgar: Sure am. All the stuff I download from sun says checksum error when I try unpacking it >< Dec 30 23:03:29 There's a version of it compiled for pdaXrom, it'll probably be easier compiling it and getting CLDC implementation Dec 30 23:04:16 google for java zaurus phoneme Dec 30 23:04:48 There is a precompiled arm version too I see. Dec 30 23:05:04 is pdaXrom binary compatible with angstrom? Dec 30 23:05:16 Beats me. Dec 30 23:05:26 I can't see why not. Dec 30 23:05:41 I can't see why not just use the binary from phoneme.dev.java.net either ;) Dec 30 23:05:42 I'll check it now Dec 30 23:06:30 ah maybe it is not prebuilt. Dec 30 23:06:34 Seems easy enough to build it. Dec 30 23:06:49 If one indeed could download a javac from sun. Dec 30 23:08:57 hmm.. Dec 30 23:14:54 Stilgar: I read this: Sun has created a highly tuned Personal Profile implementation for the Zaurus. To learn how to download this implementation, send an email to ppti@sun.com. Dec 30 23:15:07 that's obsolete Dec 30 23:15:11 they had a QT version. Dec 30 23:15:17 this mail no longer answers. Dec 30 23:15:37 Ok. Dec 30 23:15:37 the phoneme route looks way more promising, with someone able to compile it just a few months ago Dec 30 23:17:12 I don't see why it would not compile. Dec 30 23:21:28 schme: the one from sun or the one from phoneme? Dec 30 23:22:23 Either one really. Dec 30 23:22:40 I can't seem to get a javac unpackade so I'll just avoid this all. Dec 30 23:22:47 I hate java anyway ;) Dec 30 23:22:59 I was able to compile the sun one from scratch Dec 30 23:23:17 but couldn't figure out how to make it run midlets. Dec 30 23:23:28 I can't even get it to unpack. Dec 30 23:23:50 unpackade <- wow. swedish english. Dec 30 23:34:54 the binary compiled for pdaXrom won't run - as it needs QT... Dec 30 23:35:27 Why not install QT? Dec 30 23:37:47 It needs qt-mt Dec 30 23:37:53 which is actually reasonable. Dec 30 23:37:59 What's that? Dec 30 23:38:06