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Jan 02 04:55:23 <JoeBlakesley> hi
Jan 02 14:45:46 <Tykc|away> !logs
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Jan 02 14:46:05 <Tykc|away> hello
Jan 02 17:39:42 <OasisGames> Hey, I'm wondering, are there any plans to release images for the iPaq rx3000 series?
Jan 02 17:49:38 <Tykc|away> is there a RC1 ?
Jan 02 17:49:45 <Tykc|away> for ur PDA
Jan 02 17:50:10 <OasisGames> No, but there were images made a while ago, they've since been lost.
Jan 02 17:51:09 <Tykc|away> :-( the same situation with my PDA-images (hx2000) - no RC, no old unstable images 
Jan 02 17:51:15 <OasisGames> I have an old Opie image and a corrupt tarbell of a GPE image for it...
Jan 02 17:51:44 <Tykc|away> it seems like no maintainers' activity.
Jan 02 17:51:44 <OasisGames> I'd compile the newest ones myself, but I don't have the tools or the patience and I don't trust myself cross-compiling...
Jan 02 17:52:33 <Tykc|away> does everything work in rx3000 under Linux?
Jan 02 17:52:47 <OasisGames> Everything worked fine supposedly, but I was working on old kernel version.
Jan 02 17:52:49 <OasisGames> s*
Jan 02 17:52:56 <OasisGames> (Two different ones, back from june/july)
Jan 02 17:53:30 <Tykc|away> even bluetooth, wifi and suspend/resume?
Jan 02 17:53:32 <OasisGames> Recently updated to the one from july, but it doesn't want to use my battery once Opie starts. Plus I'd much rather have GPE.
Jan 02 17:53:36 <OasisGames> Suspend/resume works fine
Jan 02 17:53:44 <OasisGames> Bluetooth and Wifi doesn't start with the old kernel.
Jan 02 17:53:49 <Tykc|away> and bluetooth?
Jan 02 17:53:57 <OasisGames> Sound works with the new one though
Jan 02 17:54:03 <Tykc|away> and with new kernel?
Jan 02 17:54:10 <OasisGames> Same...
Jan 02 17:54:22 <Tykc|away> so, everything works with new kernel?
Jan 02 17:54:25 <OasisGames> But it's still really old and I got it all off of sites that rarely respond.
Jan 02 17:54:29 <OasisGames> No
Jan 02 17:54:38 <OasisGames> No bluetooth or wifi, but it's not exactly "new", more just "newer"
Jan 02 17:54:54 <OasisGames> I'm sure it'd probably work with the current Angstrom version of the kernel.
Jan 02 17:55:11 <OasisGames> As they were supposedly fixed a long time ago...
Jan 02 17:56:07 <OasisGames> Gotta be the same bluetooth and wifi hardware as at least one of the other iPaq models, though...
Jan 02 17:57:29 <OasisGames> "I plan to prepare unsupported images for all the devises supported by linux-handhelds-2.6" - hopefully he can do this soon. I'd love to help mentor for the rx3000...
Jan 02 17:59:49 <mrdata> hi
Jan 02 17:59:53 <OasisGames> Hi.
Jan 02 18:00:13 * OasisGames is hoping to find an Angstrom image for an rx3000-series iPaq.
Jan 02 18:06:59 <mrdata> i use angstrom gpe x11 image on simpad with screen 800x600, matchbox desktop theme clearlooks
Jan 02 18:07:15 <mrdata> how can i increase the default size of scrollbars to larger ones?
Jan 02 18:46:44 <mrdata> okay, problem solved for me, found parameter scrollbar in gtkrc
Jan 02 18:57:11 <rakeem_> Hi all...  Anyone got a fix for xmonobut, or another way to copy&paste in terminals on GPE?
Jan 02 20:47:37 <reyawn> hello all
Jan 02 20:50:47 <jkent> hrw, i'm now registered with nickserv, its Taekero... if you have anything for poodle that needs testing let me know, i got a few bug reports i need to file already :)
Jan 02 20:52:53 <hrw> hvontres|work is poodle mentor - he can give you stuff for test
Jan 02 20:53:46 <jkent> k.. i knew you had that 2.6.23 you wanted me to test a few days ago, so thats why i came to you :)
Jan 02 20:54:03 <hvontres|work> jkent: how adventerous do you feel?
Jan 02 20:54:44 <jkent> hvontres|work, completely, i've been to the point where i had to recalibrate charging ;)
Jan 02 20:55:03 <jkent> as long as we dont have to do any jtag, haha
Jan 02 20:55:25 <hvontres|work> jkent: I can toss some 2.6.23 images into the unsupported folder tonight.
Jan 02 20:56:17 <jkent> alright
Jan 02 20:56:50 <hvontres|work> jkent: There are also the official autobuilder files in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/poodle/
Jan 02 20:57:08 <hvontres|work> jkent: those are still based on 2.6.17 tho.
Jan 02 20:57:32 <jkent> yeah, i just flashed it with that last night, the console image
Jan 02 20:57:39 <jkent> i must inform you that my poodle has some bad flash blocks in mtdblock3, but otherwise there are no other issues with my poodle
Jan 02 20:58:51 <hvontres|work> jkent: cool. 2.6.23 has support for changing the cmdline with kexec, so we can boot from SD :)
Jan 02 20:59:28 <hvontres|work> jkent: btw, is yours a pxa 250 or 255?
Jan 02 20:59:36 <jkent> yeah, i got some issues with SD, i actually rolled a 2.6.17 with SD booting... but i discovered the SD driver may have some issues... pxa 250
Jan 02 20:59:49 <jkent> thats one of my bugs i need to report
Jan 02 21:00:24 <hvontres|work> jkent: hmmmm..... I've been doing that for ~4-5 months without any isues...
Jan 02 21:01:27 <hvontres|work> jkent: put it in bugzilla and link it to #2652 if you could
Jan 02 21:02:16 <hvontres|work> jkent: btw, where are you located?
Jan 02 21:02:38 <jkent> alright, i'll be sure to include my method of testing, basically i ran badblocks on both my desktop and the zaurus, zaurus returned random bad blocks multiple times, desktop ran fine
Jan 02 21:02:50 <jkent> Illinois, US
Jan 02 21:03:36 <hvontres|work> jkent: yay... someone close to my timezone.... (I'm in San Diego)
Jan 02 21:03:53 * Sketch is in IL too
Jan 02 21:04:41 <jkent> yay, heheh
Jan 02 21:07:32 <jkent> i was impressed with how well mplayer runs... watched some tv i transcoded from my mythtv box, until the sd bug surfaced :)
Jan 02 21:11:22 <Sketch> i was unimpresed by how badly plaympeg runs on my 3100 ;)
Jan 02 21:11:36 <Sketch> i need to reinstall and reformat so i have enough room to install mplayer
Jan 02 21:11:41 <Sketch> http://gizmodo.com/339513/dash-express-runs-on-openmoko-foss-platform-nerds-heads-explode
Jan 02 21:11:42 <Sketch> hmm, neat
Jan 02 21:11:54 <Sketch> one thing i wondered, does openmoko actually use angstrom as their base distro?
Jan 02 21:12:16 <Sketch> i saw mentions of openmoko...
Jan 02 21:17:47 <jkent> this is what i understand, openmoko uses the openembedded build system, and angstrom does too... so both projects benefit from each other to a degree
Jan 02 21:18:21 <Sketch> ah, it must have bene in OE stuff where i saw angstrom
Jan 02 21:18:23 <Sketch> er openmoko
Jan 02 21:18:24 <Sketch> heh
Jan 02 21:20:28 <hrw> Sketch: openmoko use angstrom as base
Jan 02 21:20:52 <jkent> ah it does, okay
Jan 02 21:21:20 <Sketch> ah, cool
Jan 02 21:22:08 <Sketch> btw, i posted that before i read the whole thing...after reading that it costs $599 and that includes 3 free months of "dash serivce" it doesn't sound quite as cool ;)
Jan 02 22:25:35 <reyawn> I'm not quite sure how to do it, but on the new h5000 image (Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-h5000) gives me some annoying errors
Jan 02 22:26:01 <reyawn> one of them being that gpe seems to crash as soon as you try to set the time on initial startup
Jan 02 22:26:29 <reyawn> the buttons on the ipaq now seem to work, but the battery is unidentified again
Jan 02 22:26:45 <marlecule> hvontres|work, i noticed that the latest poodle 2007.12 build eats up cpu :S
Jan 02 22:28:45 <reyawn> sound gives flash errors:
Jan 02 22:29:09 <reyawn> [   23.590000] AK4535 Audio Codec 0.3<5>jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask d
Jan 02 22:29:21 <reyawn> I'm not sure if I have a bit of bad memory on my device or if its the image, tho
Jan 02 22:30:35 <reyawn> [   25.790000] Empty flash at 0x00f84318 ends at 0x00f8431c                     
Jan 02 22:30:35 <reyawn> [   25.850000] Old JFFS2 bitmask found at 0x00f981c4                            
Jan 02 22:30:35 <reyawn> [   25.850000] You cannot use older JFFS2 filesystems with newer kernels   
Jan 02 22:38:50 <hvontres|work> marlecule: IIRC, there should be a new version of ipaq-sleep in the feeds. if you have network access you can try an ipkg update;ipkg upgrade
Jan 02 22:47:41 <marlecule> oh it is the sleep function that eats cpu hey? i am ordering a nic online but dont have it yet :(
Jan 02 22:47:47 <marlecule> i'll just use the previous version for now
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