**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 09 02:59:58 2008 Jan 09 06:00:31 hi, i have built the org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable branch, but now would like to move the tree to other path Jan 09 06:01:04 is there a way to do it without rebuilding everything? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 09 07:33:06 2008 Jan 09 09:22:35 hi, i have built the org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable branch, but now would like to move the tree to other path Jan 09 09:22:41 is there a way to do it without rebuilding everything? Jan 09 09:23:32 best if i can just do a 'mv', and just reconfigure w/o rebuild Jan 09 09:23:50 rebuilding takes a long time. Jan 09 09:26:08 l05t: what tree do you want to move ? org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12 ? Jan 09 09:36:11 the build tree Jan 09 09:36:40 i realise the cross-compiler toolchain is under the build tree... Jan 09 09:47:04 yeah, the cross-compiler is in the build tree ... what I used to do is put a link from where you want to that build tree to the cross-compiler Jan 09 09:48:37 is a ln -s for the cross-compile the only thing i need to do besides changing the bitbake conf files and env? Jan 09 09:49:26 and now there is a package that lets you build a cross-compiler that you can install on any host as a package, it is gcc-cross-sdk Jan 09 09:49:39 iirc Jan 09 09:50:52 hmm. nice. Jan 09 09:51:09 but if what you want to achieve really is to move the whole build tree because you don't like the place it is, I think you will have to rebuild it Jan 09 09:52:24 its not that i don't like... i built it on a ntfs-3g FS and gdbm-native fails because the configure script does chmodding and checks the result.. Jan 09 09:55:14 well in this case ... if moving it and changing the ENV variables does not work, I see no other solution than rebuilding ... but I'm not an OE expert Jan 09 09:55:56 ok, i'll try the ln + env thing first.. Jan 09 09:56:11 thanks Jan 09 10:08:19 hi! Jan 09 11:12:11 hmi Jan 09 11:12:39 IP addresses on section 4 of http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/AngstromManual seems to be incoherent... Jan 09 11:13:33 the examples use both 192.168.2.x and 192.168.129.x local IP Jan 09 11:16:04 can anyone fix this ? Jan 09 11:25:25 you can Jan 09 11:30:11 ok Jan 09 11:32:38 the IPs are correct Jan 09 11:36:11 usb host was forwarding 192.168.2.x addresses, usb slaves were set with 192.168.129.x addresses, gentoo example used a completly different address as compared to suse/debian examples Jan 09 11:37:26 I took them for examples, but you are probably right. Jan 09 11:37:34 192.168.0.x it is then Jan 09 11:37:46 and of course by default angstrom uses 192.168.0.202 as IP just to add to confusion Jan 09 11:37:55 for usb Jan 09 11:38:29 :) Jan 09 13:31:08 Hi, I've dug my Z C760 out of the box it was burried in and flashed Angstrom released the other day, Have an issue with my wireless cards and the hostap driver however, It sometimes connects ok, others not, and seems to help if the orinoco driver is also loaded(??) however regardless of it being loaded the Z frequently freezes, removing the card frmo the slot brings it back to life and reinserting smoetimes brings back the connec Jan 09 13:31:09 be shortly followed by another freeze! Anybody know a way round this? Jan 09 13:32:16 soemtimes it doesn't freeze complelty, rather becomes very unresponsive, but again it come back to normal when the card is pulled from the slot Jan 09 14:04:10 g'day Jan 09 14:11:10 Hello everybody Jan 09 14:11:40 I've just compiled stable version Jan 09 14:11:46 Qemuarm machine Jan 09 14:12:08 and can't get x11 working Jan 09 14:12:44 gpe-dm exits each time I login (After 5-10 seconds) Jan 09 14:12:53 any clue? Jan 09 14:24:34 Has anybody tried QemuArm version of Angstrom? Jan 09 14:25:28 you mean angstrom built for qemuarm machine Jan 09 14:25:28 ? Jan 09 14:25:36 I did not tried Jan 09 14:25:38 yes Jan 09 14:26:09 And dou you knwo anybody that has tried? Jan 09 14:27:04 Hi guys, I have just installed angstrom on my spitz (SL-C3200). Is there any way to get a normal task bar operation? Jan 09 14:27:38 at the moment, the only way I can access other windows is to close the ones in front of them :( Jan 09 14:30:25 also, is there any form of automated wireless tool. I get tired of typing in SSIDs all the time. Jan 09 14:32:40 Jemson777: Lemme fire up GPE on my terrier and see if I can find something (: Jan 09 14:34:04 could it be that there is no sound hardware available on qemuarm? Jan 09 14:34:37 because sometimes it shows an error about sound hardware missing Jan 09 14:35:01 schme: Thanks, much appreciated Jan 09 14:36:28 Jemson777: I can't seem to find anything. Closest thing I can come up with add a "program manager" launcher to the task bar and you can use it to switch between running programs. No way to access the desktop though. Jan 09 14:37:03 ffc: there is no sound in qemuarm Jan 09 14:37:12 Jemson777: you can do alt-tab switching Jan 09 14:37:28 Jemson777: hold stylus on windowtitle and you will get list of opened windows Jan 09 14:37:31 Jemson777: Or you could, you know, just avoid X like the plague. Jan 09 14:37:39 Jemson777: alt is one of those Japanese keys Jan 09 14:37:40 hrw: Oh cool. Jan 09 14:38:06 aha, fantasic. Thanks guys Jan 09 14:38:22 is there any automated wireless tool? Jan 09 14:38:43 I use wpa-supplicant which has text file config Jan 09 14:38:49 * hrw -> out Jan 09 14:39:20 Jemson777: I set my essid in /etc/networks somewhereish. Jan 09 14:40:35 im often switching between networks. Work, Home, Friends etc Jan 09 14:40:41 gets tiring changing ssid Jan 09 14:40:52 install wifi-radar or wpa-gui Jan 09 14:41:46 ill give that a go. Is it an automated config tool, or just a kismet equivelant Jan 09 14:55:26 google for it please Jan 09 14:56:53 Btw. I have been trying to compile swi-prolog and prolog for angstrom and neither seems to work. Does anyone know a prolog compiler that *does* work? Jan 09 14:57:44 hrw: did that, and now have it installed. excuse my ignorance Jan 09 14:58:16 Jemson777: its not about ignorance or not. I am just a bit busy now Jan 09 14:59:51 hrw: thats fine. thanks for the help. much appreciated :) Jan 09 17:57:37 morning Jan 09 19:05:18 psokolovsky: hi Jan 09 19:05:34 hi Jan 09 19:05:34 psokolovsky: i have booted 2.6 on h3800 sucesfully :} Jan 09 19:06:15 univac: great! consider becoming Angstrom machine mentor for it! Jan 09 19:06:39 Yes, i will Jan 09 19:07:05 but, soundbt, and udc still wont work Jan 09 19:07:16 tbd ;) Jan 09 19:08:04 udc is known problem for sa1100 ;-( Jan 09 19:08:22 hard to implement Jan 09 19:08:43 yep, controller pretty buggy Jan 09 19:25:31 Hi, I just installed the 2007.12 drop of Angstrom on my Sharp Zaurus C1000 "Akita". I managed to establish network connectivity via USB and everything... Jan 09 19:25:42 Now I seem to have a problem installing new software Jan 09 19:26:12 "ipkg update" runs fine but doesn't update anything "haven't really expected tha, though) Jan 09 19:26:42 I badly need OpenVPN but ipkg doesn't seem to find that package Jan 09 19:37:00 update just updates the package list Jan 09 19:37:03 try ipkg upgrade Jan 09 19:37:19 tried that also Jan 09 19:37:59 To no avail... Jan 09 19:38:18 "Cennot find package openvpn." :( Jan 09 19:41:24 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=openvpn Jan 09 19:41:28 the package exists... Jan 09 19:41:35 Yes, I know... Jan 09 19:41:58 I haven#t really modified anything yet (regarding ipkg) Jan 09 20:22:13 xmms installed without problems... However, it seems all my other desired packets are in the unstable feeds. How can I make ipkg use them? Jan 09 20:48:33 *knock knock* the matchbox window manager is giving me problems, it refuses to even so much as start (I put some log stuff on the first line of the main function, and still nothing). Ideas before I go hacking away at it? Jan 09 20:49:56 DaSourcerer: you should add feed entry for it Jan 09 20:50:20 Hm... how? Jan 09 20:50:33 I'm pretty new to debian-based distros :P Jan 09 20:50:34 DaSourcerer: have a look at /etc/ipkg/ Jan 09 20:50:50 okay... Jan 09 20:51:50 ;] Jan 09 20:55:21 ... nvm. I appear to have fixed the window manager simply by changing its start up line in the matchbox session start script... now it works... Jan 09 20:56:33 ok, now I just need to re-add the matchbox desktop and my pda will work (aside from a few little things) Jan 09 21:13:06 USB networking is soooo sloooww.... Jan 09 21:15:23 ooh Jan 09 21:15:27 my wireless works... Jan 09 21:17:04 ipkg update-ing Jan 09 21:46:13 I just installed pidgin on my iPaq. Dang that's cramped... Need a smaller GTK+ theme... Jan 09 21:46:40 Or a working keyboard... Jan 09 22:24:53 would it be safe to add a swap partition to my SD card Jan 09 22:25:16 ? Jan 09 22:26:16 and why is the / + ? all the way on the left or non existant on the keyboard layouts... Jan 09 22:28:50 repetitive writing is bad for flash cards, so it may lead to an early death of the card Jan 09 22:28:55 other than that, it is probably safe Jan 09 22:29:54 60mb of ram fills up fas Jan 09 22:29:56 t Jan 09 22:30:24 erg, these gestures are too sensitive Jan 09 22:31:57 define 'early'... Jan 09 22:33:11 most flash chips are rated for a certain number of write cycles Jan 09 22:33:13 "early" == two years after you've bought couple of other cards Jan 09 22:33:50 i'm not sure if it's really enough of a problem to be a practical concern or not Jan 09 22:34:27 hmm, well, i guess i ca Jan 09 22:34:57 n just make routine backups and get a new c Jan 09 22:35:09 ard when required... Jan 09 22:35:21 bb after i reformat Jan 09 22:38:05 * OasisGames is on his laptop Jan 09 22:40:03 SD cards have dropped quite a bit in price, so getting a new one every so often because I'm using 128mb of it as swap space should be reasonable (2gb cards, 1gb, doesn't matter, currently using one of my 2GBs for Angstrom) Jan 09 22:41:26 partitioning... Jan 09 22:43:00 So, will angstrom automount it as swap or will I have to do some stuff myself? haven't really looked into the hardware recognition yet... Jan 09 22:44:32 Ahh, next step in the process of getting my PDA up to top-notch standards is to get the new kernel to work. It divides by zero when it changes a lot (that may just be the LED module, though, but I know it has problems because it refuses to boot) Jan 09 22:48:30 Ok, let's see if gimp starts... Jan 09 22:48:33 lol Jan 09 23:26:28 Man, I need a really small GTK theme >_< Jan 09 23:26:42 Or I need to get X to run in pseudo-640x480 Jan 09 23:26:45 that would be cool... Jan 09 23:27:37 Do you think I could get X to run in 640x480, but shrunk down to 320x240? Jan 09 23:27:41 (pixel doubling) Jan 09 23:27:54 Also, gimp crashes when trying to draw >_< Jan 09 23:29:33 OasisGames, what's you machine? Jan 09 23:31:43 rx3000 Jan 09 23:31:47 ipaq Jan 09 23:31:57 armv4x Jan 09 23:49:40 http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/IpaqHx2750 suggests using a hard reset before running haret. Note that I am still contemplating buying a device but this really turns me down. Has this been improved on hx2750 since this tutorial was written? Jan 10 00:18:48 RP: ping Jan 10 00:19:55 chx: Performing a hard reset is pretty simple, just pull the battery. You can always take the time to flash Angstrom (or whatever) to the ROM, but that's complicated business (otherwise I would have done it by now) Jan 10 00:20:18 Anyone know if I can get X to run in 640x480 on a 320x240 device? Jan 10 00:20:40 OasisGames: but hard reset means I lose all my apps Jan 10 00:20:56 That's what backups are for Jan 10 00:21:14 OasisGames: Can I, say, back up to an SD and restore easily and quick? Jan 10 00:21:21 Yes... Jan 10 00:22:09 Of course, if you're going to be using something like Angstrom, you wouldn't necessarily need the apps anymore... Jan 10 00:34:09 OasisGames: hmm, hmmm, speaking of games, there are a few RTS on Pocket PC which I like. Also, mobipocket. Jan 10 00:34:32 OasisGames: these are hardly available for Linux. Of course, LAMP stack is not available for Pocket PC :/ Jan 10 00:51:57 Anyone have any experience with getting wired keyboards working? Specifically with ipaqs? Jan 10 01:21:43 I have GOT to get some working sound modules for my hh9 kernel >_< Jan 10 01:21:58 Or fix h19 so it works... Jan 10 01:41:30 What do you guys suggest for IMAP mail? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 10 02:59:57 2008