**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 21 03:00:03 2008 Jan 21 03:22:09 anybody used qemu while building things Jan 21 03:22:40 to test em out Jan 21 03:30:26 Probably. Jan 21 03:30:54 I used to do that before I noticed that it was not so very useable. Jan 21 03:47:42 !logs Jan 21 03:47:42 Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at: Jan 21 03:47:43 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom Jan 21 03:47:44 Live-logs are available at Jan 21 03:47:45 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog Jan 21 03:47:47 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Jan 21 04:53:13 I can't find anything the wiki... so maybe it should be obvious... but how do I know which spitz image I want to download? X11? GPE? glibc? Pimlico? Office? Jan 21 05:52:41 anybody in here alive with en OE build environment Jan 21 06:00:50 anybody? Jan 21 06:01:41 I have one that I don't think works right now Jan 21 06:01:49 I can answer a question but probably not build anything Jan 21 06:08:26 i just need Jan 21 06:08:34 in your org.openblabla/packages/mozilla Jan 21 06:08:38 firefox_1.0.7.bb Jan 21 06:08:44 sure Jan 21 06:08:47 one sec Jan 21 06:08:51 for some reason i'm unable to make mtn redownload it Jan 21 06:08:59 mtn revert bleh.bb Jan 21 06:10:09 did that Jan 21 06:10:11 ah stupid me Jan 21 06:10:15 wasn't in the right dir Jan 21 06:11:00 it's ok. It actually encouraged me to fix my OE Jan 21 06:11:19 i did that last time 2 Jan 21 06:11:37 but i forgot revert wanted me to be in the package dir or to specify it Jan 21 06:16:35 johnx: had fun building amsn but damn way 2 slow Jan 21 06:22:51 you mean amsn ran too slow or the compile took too long? Jan 21 06:23:06 ran to slow on the Z Jan 21 06:23:15 well kinda sorta acceptable Jan 21 06:23:15 that's too bad Jan 21 06:23:20 but pidgin runs smooth compared to amsn Jan 21 06:23:29 i find the login time was huge but i didn't retry after first load Jan 21 06:23:31 gimme a sec Jan 21 06:23:38 then had the tls issue haha Jan 21 06:24:35 what machine u using? Jan 21 06:25:52 it's after login in Jan 21 06:26:06 the update thing Jan 21 06:26:13 I have an akita, a collie and a nokia n800 Jan 21 06:26:43 the collie's battery is kind of useless though at this point Jan 21 06:26:53 how come Jan 21 06:26:58 how long have u had it? Jan 21 06:27:49 well not that bad to login Jan 21 06:28:12 but gobs 2 much ram Jan 21 06:28:55 looks awesome on Z tho Jan 21 06:29:09 I've had the collie for 6 years or so, now I guess Jan 21 06:29:45 kewl Jan 21 06:29:49 yeah once logged in Jan 21 06:29:51 opening a chat window Jan 21 06:29:55 is forever slow Jan 21 06:30:04 that's too bad Jan 21 06:30:10 at least we have pidgin Jan 21 06:30:14 took me forever to get it to compile Jan 21 06:30:30 then compiling tls worked but wouldn't package it so installed it manualy Jan 21 06:30:41 then amsn wouldn't find it even when setting the directory in preference Jan 21 06:30:44 had to strace what was happeneing Jan 21 06:30:48 what a pain Jan 21 06:30:52 but was fun to make it work Jan 21 06:31:15 hum Jan 21 06:31:41 yeah, it gets easier every package you do...but it never seems simple Jan 21 06:32:26 well Jan 21 06:32:36 seems it's me touching the screen not well to open window Jan 21 06:32:45 seems actualy usable if i do it just right Jan 21 06:34:51 hum what does one use in angstrom for screenshots? Jan 21 06:35:32 I think there is an applet you can add to the bottom taskbar thing Jan 21 06:35:44 looking for it Jan 21 06:35:49 there was one in pdaxii13 Jan 21 06:37:25 hum don't see a gpe addon for that in the package list Jan 21 06:37:35 that's strange Jan 21 06:37:41 i must be going blind Jan 21 06:37:44 it's late for me lol Jan 21 06:37:45 I sware I remember one Jan 21 06:37:53 but I can't find it either :/ Jan 21 06:37:57 i know there was one in pdaxii13 Jan 21 06:38:21 ahh Jan 21 06:38:23 gpe-scap Jan 21 06:40:06 I think I must need to point my ipkg.conf at the newer feeds. I can't seem to find anything :( Jan 21 06:40:14 well found it on website Jan 21 06:40:15 gpe-scap Jan 21 06:40:20 ah Jan 21 06:41:37 turns out Jan 21 06:41:40 amsn is actualy usable Jan 21 06:41:48 a tad slow Jan 21 06:41:51 but usable Jan 21 06:41:56 it was me not clicking on the windows correctly Jan 21 06:42:07 some options like popups will need to be disabled i guess Jan 21 06:44:43 http://vegettech.com/zaurus/amsn.png Jan 21 06:45:13 looks pretty good. not so sure about the font though Jan 21 06:45:20 didn't change it Jan 21 06:45:24 is that tcl/tk or qt? Jan 21 06:45:25 well it's all in the touching the screen Jan 21 06:45:34 tcl/tk is what amsn uses Jan 21 06:46:38 hum Jan 21 06:46:47 i should think about making a .bb and patching everything i patched by hand Jan 21 06:49:16 wow it's really in the tapping correctly Jan 21 06:49:21 that's why i thought it was so slow Jan 21 06:49:40 cool, so it's not that bad except for RAM usage? Jan 21 06:49:47 yeah Jan 21 06:49:51 but kinda like firefox is lol Jan 21 06:49:55 really bad for ram Jan 21 06:50:01 but i guess with some tweeks some stuff can be removed Jan 21 06:51:34 now to try out firefox Jan 21 06:51:50 I've settled on minimo for now Jan 21 06:51:57 epiphany webkit looks promising too Jan 21 06:52:04 hum i guess i'll try and make an amsn .bb and tls .bb and patches later on Jan 21 06:52:10 i love firefox on pdaxii Jan 21 06:52:14 it's a memory gobber Jan 21 06:52:18 but displays everything correctly Jan 21 06:54:33 I kind gave up trying to browse on the zaurus Jan 21 06:58:45 well on pdaxii13 Jan 21 06:58:48 firefox was usable Jan 21 06:58:55 it was starting it that was long Jan 21 06:59:02 dillo ain't 2 bad Jan 21 06:59:06 displays everything crookedly Jan 21 06:59:09 but loads fast Jan 21 07:03:42 takes about 50seconds to load amsn lol Jan 21 07:04:18 sad Jan 21 07:04:24 yeah indeed Jan 21 07:04:35 i wonder if there is anything that can be done to remove useless things Jan 21 07:04:41 but it looks so nice Jan 21 07:04:50 and once loaded it ain't as bad as i first thought it was Jan 21 07:05:01 pidgin seems like a better bet though Jan 21 07:05:08 yup Jan 21 07:05:10 way better bet Jan 21 07:05:14 but amsn was fun to get to work Jan 21 07:06:08 definitely Jan 21 07:06:28 just like running a webserver+wiki on the collie was a fun project Jan 21 07:06:42 it even used to be inet accessible for a while, but I haven't set it up again recently Jan 21 07:07:39 hehehe Jan 21 07:08:05 it's fun Jan 21 07:11:11 dunno what else i could use on Z that's not in packages Jan 21 07:11:18 i mean amsn i had a feeling it would take 2 much power Jan 21 07:11:20 but was fun Jan 21 07:11:24 and it's usable once loaded lol Jan 21 07:13:00 what do you use for music? Jan 21 07:13:30 i was using xmms Jan 21 07:14:00 guessing amarok would requier 2 much guts Jan 21 07:14:06 yeah, probably Jan 21 07:14:18 but would be fun to try Jan 21 07:15:30 I actually ended up using mpd+ncmpc and/or glurp for a while Jan 21 07:16:59 I tried to get banshee to build once too, but I think it wanted to drag in mono.net Jan 21 07:21:18 eek Jan 21 07:21:34 trying to compile firefox 2.0.0.3 Jan 21 07:21:39 with some fixes Jan 21 07:21:41 see if it runs Jan 21 07:21:45 or seg faults like the packages Jan 21 07:22:26 pixelized, actually I wonder if firefox 3 beta (or alpha or whatever) might be a better bet Jan 21 07:23:11 yeah Jan 21 07:23:14 i was thinking about it Jan 21 07:23:16 since it uses less ram Jan 21 07:23:21 and doesn't have the memory leak issue Jan 21 07:23:22 etc etc Jan 21 07:23:27 and some ARM fixes should be applied too Jan 21 07:25:40 ? Jan 21 07:25:42 really? Jan 21 10:49:36 Good morning everyone. Jan 21 10:51:16 good morning Jan 21 11:45:36 good day hrw Jan 21 11:45:43 morning Jan 21 11:45:43 did you got child? Jan 21 11:51:46 not yet Jan 21 11:51:56 watch my blog for info Jan 21 11:52:36 * XorA suspects a more exciting intro to channel when it arrives Jan 21 11:53:23 a human rights watch blog? Jan 21 11:54:17 http://blog.haerwu.biz/ Jan 21 11:54:18 ? Jan 21 11:56:45 andieh: not human rights watch Jan 21 11:56:58 hehe :D Jan 21 12:01:17 hrw, is haerwu.biz your domain? Jan 21 12:05:09 yes **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 21 12:54:47 2008 Jan 21 13:00:33 when i start any openmoko package, i get the following error: Could not find the icon 'moko-call-answer'. The 'hicolor' theme Jan 21 13:00:42 which package do i have to install to get those icons? Jan 21 13:08:35 : Jan 21 13:08:57 hi Chriva Jan 21 13:09:59 andieh: m. not sure kan take a look at it later. my laptop is kind of mad at me for the moment. (still bitbaking) Jan 21 13:10:15 Hi, andieh btw =) Jan 21 13:11:41 ok. i just have a look at openembedded to start bitbaking my own programs ... Jan 21 13:12:49 its quite easy to accomplish. one note though, download latest bitbake from their webpage. it solved a lot of problems for me. Jan 21 13:14:58 Btw, Who is the mentor for Acer N30 devices? or aa i just plain stupid trying to get this working the way i want, anyway managed to get eabi working after a few handmade patches for the 2.6.20 kernel... and touchscren by disabling mouse support and putting event3 in tslib.sh **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 21 13:23:39 2008 Jan 21 13:28:16 Chriva: mailed angstrom-devel? Jan 21 13:28:33 I do not know do someone has n30 here now Jan 21 13:31:51 i mailed just one guy but he did not reply. i rather not be a pain in the but so i dont dare to mail yet another person. and the my device is actually a n35 but it belongs to the n30 developement as far as i know since there is a entry for it in the kernel when using the n30 patches (altough i had to do some heavy modifications to them to make them work on a 2.6.20 kernel Jan 21 13:32:41 not person but mailing list Jan 21 13:34:54 hm. Im really feeling plain tupid sometimes. thank you, hrw. ill try that at once =) Jan 21 15:37:48 puh, building with bitbake is very hard stuff. Jan 21 15:38:04 opie-solitaire takes 400 tasks, hard! Jan 21 15:46:52 imaging doing all those 400 tasks by hand... Jan 21 15:47:23 Andieh: i see you got it up and running =) try bitbake world ;) Jan 21 15:47:43 haha no chance Jan 21 15:49:32 im planning to do some day. ive got an urgent need hoggning my harddisk with stuff ^^ Jan 21 15:51:18 haha next time youre on holidays! Jan 21 15:54:43 am i right, that bitbake makes for each task a single .ipkg package? Jan 21 15:57:36 it depends on how you set the switches in local.conf. Jan 21 15:58:23 which switches? Jan 21 15:59:04 INHERIT = "package_ipk" Jan 21 15:59:15 IMAGE_FSTYPES Jan 21 15:59:26 IMAGE_FSTYPES = "jffs2 tar" Jan 21 16:00:01 i set mine to IMAGE_FSTYPES = "tar, exe, ipk" it sems to work fine. anyway it makes the files i need. not sure if its correct Jan 21 16:10:08 hmm which machine do you use? i have a dual core centrino... puh, it takes sooo much time! iam at task 100 / 400 Jan 21 16:10:15 for a simple solitaire game :D Jan 21 16:19:34 andieh: well the firest time it needs to go through and build the whole tool-chain, glibc and other stuff Jan 21 16:19:58 * hvontres|work used to build on a dual PII-333.... ~8hrs just for glibc Jan 21 16:39:01 im using a singlecore centrino at 2.4 ghz for the moment. i could use the big computer but im too lazy to sitt over there =D try putting BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "4" in local.conf it should speed things up Jan 21 16:45:10 Andieh: you could even try 8 instead of 4. it depends on how much ram u have. i have 1 gig and setting threads to 8 brought mine to its knees Jan 21 16:53:50 joah 1gb, too Jan 21 16:53:51 hmm Jan 21 16:53:59 | WARNING: "gcc" looks like gcc 4.x Jan 21 16:53:59 | Looking for gcc 3.x Jan 21 16:53:59 | gcc 3.x not found! Jan 21 16:54:03 worst case! Jan 21 16:54:04 :D Jan 21 16:54:16 andieh: I use BB_NUMBER_THREADS= "8" on a AMD Tl-56 with 2GB ram Jan 21 16:54:29 andieh: hmm, looks like it just barfed on qemu Jan 21 16:54:59 qemu, exact! Jan 21 16:55:58 andieh: what distrto are you running? Jan 21 16:56:06 archlinux Jan 21 16:56:07 :D Jan 21 16:57:43 andieh: IIRC you can have both gcc4 and gcc3 installed in paralell, but I am not familiar with archlinux at all Jan 21 16:58:09 so, lets try this at my own.. Jan 21 16:58:28 there musst be a way... Jan 21 17:00:55 andieh: this might help : http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro Jan 21 17:01:59 Arch Linux (Duke) Instructions Jan 21 17:02:01 hmm nice :D Jan 21 17:02:50 hmm but there a no gcc hints... Jan 21 17:16:00 ok, pacman -S gcc3 and im done ... Jan 21 18:08:23 hmm next error Jan 21 18:08:31 NOTE: Task failed: Jan 21 18:08:31 ERROR: Task 105 (/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc_2.6.1.bb, do_unpack) failed with 256 Jan 21 18:08:39 but no other error message Jan 21 18:09:33 oh, no space left :D Jan 21 18:12:22 3 gb for solitaire, hehehe Jan 21 18:14:24 ive got tre versions of gpe-image on my computer, one oabi and eabi for my handheld and one eabi for your handheld =) i think the use arround 30 gig alltogether Jan 21 18:15:25 omfg Jan 21 18:17:20 its a wonder you guys understand what im saying. Im sorry for my bad spelling :( Jan 21 18:18:28 my english is even more worst than yours :D so we understand each other perfectly :D Jan 21 18:25:17 The sad thing is that i only have a 40gb drive so i had to move everything to an external HD it sems to like its new working dir quite well Jan 21 18:32:48 i have a NAS drive here, but with a very slow connection to it (about 3-4 mb/s), maybe i put it over there... Jan 21 18:38:22 Chriva: andieh try adding INHERIT += "rm_work" to your local.conf Jan 21 18:39:19 doesnt that mean it will remove all files when the image is built? =) Jan 21 18:39:46 do we need them anymore? Jan 21 18:39:54 Chriva: only the stuff in /tmp/work Jan 21 18:43:25 my build dir is ~12G for poodle and qemuarm (gpe and opie images + a bunch of kernel builds) Jan 21 18:45:00 That may come in handy. thank you =) im playing around very much for the moment ("unsupported" device) so i save the files for now. i will write it down tough Jan 21 19:24:54 hvontres|work, is this correct? INHERIT = "package_ipk" Jan 21 19:24:54 INHERIT += "rm_work" Jan 21 19:25:10 bitbake fails again beccause it cant download qt-embedded Jan 21 19:35:01 hmm i rerun bitbake opie-solitaire and now there are 629 tasks to do? wh000t? Jan 21 19:45:22 andieh: comment out the INHERIT = "package_ipk" line, the sistro cnfig will take care of that. the extra tasks are all of the rm-work tasks that got added to the queue Jan 21 19:46:05 ah ok, thanks Jan 21 19:46:16 but i dont use sistro.conf? or what do you mean? Jan 21 19:58:36 andieh: oopps, I meant the distro config , specifially conf/distro/angstro*.conf Jan 21 19:58:47 andieh: oopps, I meant the distro config , specifially conf/distro/angstrom*.conf Jan 21 19:59:00 hehe ok, in my case hx4700.conf Jan 21 19:59:22 hmm why bitbake fails to download qte-mt-static Jan 21 19:59:23 ARG Jan 21 20:00:36 wget http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/hrw-oe-sources/qt-embedded-2.3.10-snapshot-20060120.tar.gz Jan 21 20:00:49 20:58:54 ERROR 403: Forbidden. Jan 21 20:34:07 no chance to get qt-embedded compiled? Jan 21 20:53:31 Andieh: you sure you use the ångström branch and not .dev? i had similar problems as you when i tried .dev branch so i jumped over to ångström Jan 21 20:54:38 hmm could be a solution Jan 21 20:55:14 could you please give me the address of the angstrom branch? Jan 21 20:57:20 just replace org.openembedded.dev with org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable. when you download =) Jan 21 20:58:42 hmm while updating mtn? Jan 21 21:00:25 i do this, before i starting bitbake Jan 21 21:00:45 mtn --db=/oe/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev Jan 21 21:00:52 mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable Jan 21 21:01:08 hehe okee :D Jan 21 21:01:17 (change /stuff to /oe) Jan 21 21:02:05 and then mtn --db=/oe/OE.mtn checkout --branch=org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable Jan 21 21:02:46 haha whats this? i just want to echo my $PATH variable, and with zsh you can just type $P and then press to autocomplete Jan 21 21:02:58 and it just gave me: echo $PANTS Jan 21 21:02:58 ON Jan 21 21:02:59 WTF? Jan 21 21:03:43 never hear of it before (im on debian) Jan 21 21:03:44 i dont have my pants on! Jan 21 21:04:50 that was a bit too much info for me ^^ Jan 21 21:04:58 hehe Jan 21 21:06:10 edit local.conf to reflect the changes (we rather use the .bb files from the angstrom branch than the .dev branch) =) Jan 21 21:07:44 if you read the guide. i gues that file is in /oe/build/conf/? Jan 21 21:10:17 oe/build/conf/local.conf, yes Jan 21 21:11:45 good =) just edit bbfiles to BBFILES = "/oe/org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable/packages/*/*.bb" Jan 21 21:13:55 just did this :D Jan 21 21:24:54 Andieh: ill have to go away for a day o two. i have to finish a music project. take a look at www.second-try.com if you want to. the music is free =) Jan 21 21:29:42 wuhuu Jan 21 21:30:04 electronic-musik of the future Jan 21 21:31:21 hmm is this techno? hmm Jan 21 21:31:50 hello, the flower :D Jan 21 21:33:41 more trance? Jan 21 21:33:56 sounds a little bit like prodigy Jan 21 21:36:10 ok, now bitbake fails with gcc-cross Jan 21 21:36:12 WAHHH Jan 21 21:38:08 andieh: yu might want to start over with a clean /oe/tmp dir Jan 21 21:38:26 (as painfull as that sounds...:) Jan 21 21:38:32 yes, im trying this now :D Jan 21 21:38:35 that does sound painfull Jan 21 21:39:09 i need a more powerfull machine Jan 21 21:39:15 so do i Jan 21 21:39:23 without monitor, just for compiling stuff Jan 21 21:39:25 pixelized: kind of depends on your build machine and how far you've gotten Jan 21 21:39:36 i've done alot of compiling Jan 21 21:39:42 worth 10gigs Jan 21 21:39:48 restarting would make me cry Jan 21 21:39:51 i did that five times before i got it working, andieh so i know what you mean ^^ Jan 21 21:40:32 hehe the eternitiy is never long enough Jan 21 21:41:37 jupp. thats the song i have to finnish. tobias is pissed at me since ive ben messin' around with linux for a several weeks =D Jan 21 21:41:47 "Back in my day, we had to walk 5 miles to get to the build machine, uphill, both ways with 6 feet of snow in july" Jan 21 21:42:41 hrhr Jan 21 21:43:21 all that go get a whopping 4mhz of number crunching power Jan 21 21:43:24 with 640k or ram! Jan 21 21:44:17 Chriva, i think your music is a little bit toooo fast for me Jan 21 21:44:57 * andieh needs a little bit of depeche mode now Jan 21 21:45:28 we do all kind of shit. just look around, there are a few calm ones too ^^ Jan 21 21:45:46 anybody got lirc working for the spitz? Jan 21 21:45:58 pixelized: would it be faster if i run it on a x64 based computer? Jan 21 21:46:39 Chriva: lol Jan 21 21:46:40 depends Jan 21 21:46:54 are your utilities and os well programmed to run in 64bit mode Jan 21 21:47:04 or are they just b0rked like half the 64bit stuff Jan 21 21:47:39 for the moment it that computer has m$-shit installed, but i would gladly replace it with a 64 bit version of debian or similar Jan 21 21:47:58 hehehe Jan 21 21:54:17 soo 2008.6 Jan 21 21:54:28 what the diff between 2007.12 and 2008.6 Jan 21 21:54:34 where can one read on this Jan 21 21:54:50 i think i read somewhere that amd handles 64 bit better than intel. not sure if its true though Jan 21 21:55:55 it is Jan 21 21:56:06 em64t is b0rked Jan 21 21:59:08 im looking for some info about 2008.6 now. but the info is nowhere to be seen :S Jan 21 21:59:42 hi, I'm trying to compile altboot-console-image for zaurus collie, and I get an error with glbic-intermediate Jan 21 21:59:54 the log says: Jan 21 22:00:16 dl-open.c: In function 'add_to_global': Jan 21 22:00:20 dl-open.c:144: error: 'RTLD_SINGLE_THREAD_P' undeclared (first use in this function) Jan 21 22:00:24 dl-open.c:144: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once Jan 21 22:00:24 dl-open.c:144: error: for each function it appears in.) Jan 21 22:00:24 dl-open.c: In function '_dl_scope_free': Jan 21 22:00:24 dl-open.c:174: error: 'RTLD_SINGLE_THREAD_P' undeclared (first use in this function) Jan 21 22:00:24 make[2]: *** [/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux/glibc-intermediate-2.6.1-r1/build-arm-an Jan 21 22:00:24 gstrom-linux/elf/dl-open.o] Error 1 Jan 21 22:01:18 and this is klingon for me, do not know C. ¿any idea? Jan 21 22:07:38 klingon? Jan 21 22:08:14 well, my english is not very good, I was trying to make a joke. Jan 21 22:09:09 hehe, sorry, my english is even worst, too :) Jan 21 22:09:34 but i cant help you here, trying bitbake since this morning, too Jan 21 22:11:01 one week, here, tried several packages, even make a .bb file for leafnode, a it worked with OZ 3.5.4. Jan 21 22:11:49 now I'm trying an altboot image, but got this error, and don't know what to do Jan 21 22:12:32 this happens quite early in the build process,? Jan 21 22:12:57 sounds like there is a depency missing for me .. Jan 21 22:13:35 I get one message about glibc at the beginning... Jan 21 22:13:53 NOTE: preferred version 2.6.1 of glibc not available (for item virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-libc-for-gcc) Jan 21 22:19:58 rinkinflinkis: ill try to investigate this. not sure if i can fix it tough. try asking CoreDump when he comes back =) Jan 21 22:20:18 ok, thanks Jan 21 22:20:39 if you need more info, logs, conf... Jan 21 22:23:07 i need to know how your local.conf file is configured. ill try to replicate the problem and se if i can fix it. if i do i will tell you what to do =) send it in private Jan 21 22:23:40 ok Jan 21 22:27:46 hmm so lets see if it works here on my machine with opie-solitaire :D Jan 21 22:27:55 job 160 / 629 done... Jan 21 22:28:09 i go in front of my tv now, good night and cu Jan 21 22:29:17 goodnight, andieh =) as you probably know by now. i wont be here for a few days after this night Jan 21 22:29:53 jojo no problem, but i will still miss you :D Jan 21 22:30:23 have fun with your music, angstrom is now in my xchat startup script, so ill be here any time my pc is on. Jan 21 22:30:25 cu! Jan 21 22:30:40 Chriva: sorry, I made a /query to you, but no answer Jan 21 22:32:41 i dont even know what /query does. i do some coding, but im very new to irc. (just used it for a few days) doesnt copy paste work? Jan 21 22:33:34 well, /query is for private messages Jan 21 22:34:50 may I cut and paste here? Jan 21 22:35:08 i think that is ok =) Jan 21 22:35:41 ok, here it goes: Jan 21 22:35:59 # Where to store sources Jan 21 22:35:59 DL_DIR = "/OE/downloads" Jan 21 22:36:03 # Working Dir Jan 21 22:36:07 TMPDIR = "/OE/build/tmp" Jan 21 22:36:20 # Which files do we want to parse: Jan 21 22:36:24 BBFILES := "/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" Jan 21 22:36:28 BBMASK = "" Jan 21 22:36:32 # ccache always overfill $HOME.... Jan 21 22:36:36 CCACHE="" Jan 21 22:36:40 # What kind of images do we want? Jan 21 22:36:43 IMAGE_FSTYPES = "jffs2 tar.gz " Jan 21 22:36:47 # Set TMPDIR instead of defaulting it to $pwd/tmp Jan 21 22:36:51 TMPDIR = "/OE/build/tmp/${DISTRO}" Jan 21 22:36:55 # Make use of my SMP box Jan 21 22:36:59 PARALLEL_MAKE="-j4" Jan 21 22:37:03 BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "2" Jan 21 22:37:07 # Set the Distro Jan 21 22:37:11 DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" Jan 21 22:37:23 # 'uclibc' or 'glibc' or 'eglibc' Jan 21 22:37:27 #ANGSTROM_MODE = "glibc" Jan 21 22:37:28 MACHINE = "collie" Jan 21 22:39:24 as far as i know the 2008.1 is in beta stage. do you really need it? Jan 21 22:40:11 not really, but as 2007 is now legacy... Jan 21 22:41:51 I began with 2007, and made slrn, leafnode and dependencies, and installed it in OZ 3.5.4 Jan 21 22:43:02 and now, trying the altboot image, I thought it was a good idea change to 2008. Jan 21 22:45:43 sorry my fault now i saw that you where using the .dev branch and not angstrom. have you tried the latest angstrom branch instead? i tried your settings with my angstrom and it sems to be fine. ill se if the guys in the oe channel knows what to do =) Jan 21 22:48:10 I am trying to compile for zaurus collie. So I guess I must use .dev branch, didn't I? Jan 21 22:49:32 there is an entry for the device in the angstrom branch too. not sure if it is very recent though Jan 21 22:50:28 Oh, I did not know. I'll try this. Jan 21 22:50:41 thank you very much Jan 21 22:52:02 i had a few problems with the .dev branch myself. i think .dev is better for building separate packages and angstrom for more stable complete distros Jan 21 22:53:48 so, rm /OE/build/tmp -rf and change local.conf and bitbake altboot-console-image? Jan 21 22:54:00 or not necessary to rm ? Jan 21 22:55:24 if you have diskspace i suggest you to save the files for now (just renaming the tmp folder to something else) since we dont know if the angstrom really does work as it should for your device Jan 21 22:56:04 hello Jan 21 22:56:15 Hi =) Jan 21 22:56:21 I was wondering why do the angstrom distro lacks ifconfig 0_o Jan 21 22:56:33 hi Chriva :) Jan 21 22:57:16 Chriva: ok, thanks, going for it :) Jan 21 22:57:45 anybody running opie in here? Jan 21 22:58:16 pixelized: o could transfer an opie image for my device if you want? Jan 21 22:59:18 Chriva: what device is that? Jan 21 22:59:50 transfer TO my device. why cant i ever learn :S im on a acer N35 with several hacks made to the kernel and angstrom Jan 21 23:02:16 rinkinflinkis: hows things going? =) Jan 21 23:02:40 gonna try to run opie later on Jan 21 23:03:17 Chriva: trying to figure what to do. Jan 21 23:03:42 mtn --db=OE.mtn co --branch= ??? Jan 21 23:03:50 pixelized: i hope you dont get the same problem as me. i got chinese keyboard in my opie image but gpe works Jan 21 23:04:36 mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable Jan 21 23:04:59 ok Jan 21 23:06:14 and then mtn --db=/stuff/OE.mtn checkout --branch=org.openembedded.angstrom-2007.12-stable =) one note though. im using /stuff as my work dir but i guess you want it to be place somewhere else so youll have to modify it for your needs =) Jan 21 23:06:43 yeah, I know this :P Jan 21 23:07:27 just making sure im making it as easy as possible for you. i dont know how much you know about openembedded ^^ Jan 21 23:07:55 well I can spell it, not much more ;) Jan 21 23:10:42 pixelized: i had to edit my tslib.sh to get opie and gpe respond to screen touches. i think that is because my ancient device tough. dont think its supported anymore Jan 21 23:15:22 I'm trying to get the damn usbnetwork working is driving me mad, I would really appreciate some help here. I already have the usbnet module, usb0 interface in my box is up, some time ago ping to the ipaq was working and for some reason I haven't figured out yet, it's broken now. Tried 'ip address' in the ipaq (wanted something like ifconfig), and seems the network interface usb0 is pretty screwed up cause it does not even have an ip number. ... Jan 21 23:15:28 ... Already set up some fields in network configuration in gpe but for some reason, it does not work Jan 21 23:15:31 it's really annoying Jan 21 23:16:01 I just want that damn ssh working =/ Jan 21 23:19:05 s/usbnetwork working is/usbnetwork working and it's Jan 21 23:19:46 My usbport in my device is busted up real good so i cant see if it fails for me too :( Jan 21 23:20:01 =/ Jan 21 23:20:14 that sucks Jan 21 23:21:19 i dont have any use fore mine anyway. but it would be fun to se if its related to your device or if gpe has some internal errors that cause ssh to fail Jan 21 23:22:50 it would be cool to have a base system with enough functionality so I don't need to mess with ugly stuff like 'ip' from busybox. I don't think ifconfig is so big it could not be included Jan 21 23:23:17 not even route is available in angstrom Jan 21 23:23:20 =/ Jan 21 23:23:37 tried downloading ifconfig package and installed it? Jan 21 23:23:38 how am I supposed to link the bit** up? Jan 21 23:24:09 TC-Rucho: what device and image are you using? Jan 21 23:24:13 Chriva: I would have tried if I had found the repository Jan 21 23:24:33 hvontres|work: Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-hx4700.rootfs.tar.gz Jan 21 23:24:51 im using a Acer N35 with custom made gpe-image Jan 21 23:25:09 TC-Rucho: and you are on hx4700? Jan 21 23:25:14 Chriva: I'm thinking in installing Gentoo to my ipaq Jan 21 23:25:27 hvontres|work: of course not, I can't get the damn usbnet working Jan 21 23:25:36 hvontres|work: I'm on my desktop box atm Jan 21 23:26:57 hvontres|work: I don't have anything wifi arround to make a wireless bridge, so usbnet will have to do, but it hasn't done yet Jan 21 23:27:01 =/ Jan 21 23:28:47 TC-Rucho: if you feel adventerous, you ight want to try one of the images from here:http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/hx4700/ Jan 21 23:29:05 TC-Rucho: it looks like ifconfig made it into those Jan 21 23:29:17 cool Jan 21 23:29:52 by the way, that process called 'ipaq-sleep' eats 50% of the CPU power and makes Xw100 eat the other half making the handheld heat, eat the battery _really_ fast and making it slow as a turtle stuck in molasses. Killing that %$#%@ process fixes it Jan 21 23:29:59 what is it supposed to do? Jan 21 23:33:40 it is supposed to suspend the device after a timeout, dim the display and shut down the device before the battery gets critical Jan 21 23:33:53 hmm Jan 21 23:34:09 it should not use that much CPU Jan 21 23:34:14 this problem is supposed to be fixed in current images AFAIK Jan 21 23:34:29 you mean 2008 ones? Jan 21 23:35:18 well, I hope "stable" release Angstrom has the fix Jan 21 23:35:51 2008.* in any case. You might get away with upgrading ipaqsleep via ipkg Jan 21 23:37:12 CoreDump: that's a problem, I'm getting annoyed as hell trying to get the ssh and therefore sftp working :) Jan 21 23:37:59 usb networking should work OOTB Jan 21 23:38:16 wtf ootb Jan 21 23:38:18 oops Jan 21 23:38:38 need to emerge that app Jan 21 23:38:51 !google define: ootb Jan 21 23:38:52 Sorry, no search results were found. Jan 21 23:38:57 doh =) Jan 21 23:39:05 ootb = Out Of The Box Jan 21 23:39:10 oh Jan 21 23:39:16 :D Jan 21 23:39:26 ,) Jan 21 23:39:33 !google define OOTB Jan 21 23:39:35 Sign in @ https://www.google.com/accounts/Login?continue=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define+OOTB&safe=off&btnG=Search&lr=lang_all&hl=en | Lingo definition of ootb this term is @ http://www.lingo2word.com/lingodetail.php?WrdID=60682%20class=l | Urban Dictionary: OOTB @ http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=OOTB%20class=l Jan 21 23:39:35 Gee... I don't know what ootb means... Jan 21 23:39:39 fuck Jan 21 23:39:41 lol Jan 21 23:39:55 I need to add that one Jan 21 23:40:12 it sure beats spelling it out every time Jan 21 23:42:54 OMG OMG OMFG IT IS WORKING!! xD xD xD Jan 21 23:42:58 YAY!! Jan 21 23:43:03 * TC-Rucho logins Jan 21 23:44:05 * TC-Rucho is IN! Jan 21 23:44:31 congrats Jan 21 23:46:23 CoreDump: ifconfig and route are included in the 2007 RC2.1 Jan 21 23:46:59 wonder why aren't they includded in the other image I tried Jan 21 23:47:03 well, I would bloody hope so Jan 21 23:47:14 really? ouch.... Jan 21 23:48:04 yeah, ifconfig and route are not in Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-hx4700.rootfs.tar.gz Jan 21 23:48:51 wait Jan 21 23:48:59 they _are_ there Jan 21 23:49:08 * TC-Rucho checks what's going on Jan 21 23:54:41 CoreDump: something is screwed up here Jan 21 23:54:42 7557733127f4e1923467a6eff2fdc1bc Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-hx4700.rootfs.tar.gz Jan 21 23:54:45 6b36859c70ff8721f7ea7cabaa400cc2 /mnt/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-hx4700.rootfs.tar.gz Jan 21 23:54:51 I think the problem was the corrupt image Jan 21 23:54:52 =/ Jan 21 23:54:55 damnit Jan 21 23:55:01 doh Jan 21 23:55:32 CoreDump: it would be very cool if a md5sums file was available in every images dir Jan 21 23:56:02 indeed. You should request that on the mailing list Jan 21 23:59:26 CoreDump: i managed to get a 2.6.24 kernel up and running for my device (Acern35), its still missing touchscreen support though. would you accept it in your mainline if i manage to get it stable and fully functional? Jan 22 00:00:12 that is not up to me to decide =) I have no big ties with Angstrom Jan 22 00:00:54 again, this would have to be discussed on the ML Jan 22 00:03:20 ok =) ill mess around with this for a few days and tell you when its ready. am i supposed to anounce this in the oe channel? Jan 22 00:04:29 yep Jan 22 00:08:24 allright then =) i will tell you how my project is going within a few days i have to finnish another project before i continue on this =) Jan 22 00:09:13 ;) Jan 22 00:11:34 heya coredump Jan 22 00:12:00 hey Jan 22 00:12:11 maybe u have info on this 2008.6? Jan 22 00:12:13 i have to go now. hope to see you soon, guys =) Jan 22 00:12:58 cya Chriva Jan 22 00:13:20 pixelized: umm define "info"? Jan 22 00:13:34 why it's doesn't seem to be in unstable? Jan 22 00:14:04 that I do not now, sorry. Jan 22 00:14:21 I have no hand in image & feed generation Jan 22 00:15:03 i know but u seem to read alot about angstrom =) Jan 22 00:15:06 so i figured i would ask Jan 22 00:15:35 ;) Jan 22 00:16:09 the two head-guys of angstrom stay away from IRC, they do read the mailinglists tho **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 22 02:59:56 2008