**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 09 02:59:57 2008 Feb 09 09:44:01 angstrom-distribution.org down? ... some one knows how long? Feb 09 09:59:17 gints: its been down for a while. Feb 09 09:59:22 bits of it are working though" Feb 09 09:59:25 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/ Feb 09 10:42:14 morning all Feb 09 12:25:22 Hello. Feb 09 12:25:45 hm, What happene d to angstrom's homepage? is that stopped or it's a temporary problem? Feb 09 12:25:58 I'm just newbee, and finding some information about angstrom. :) Feb 09 12:28:18 I'm pretty sure it's temporary. It was just up yesterday Feb 09 12:28:59 johnx: thank you :) Feb 09 12:32:05 you can at least use the google cache if you need to Feb 09 12:33:34 ah, I see. Thank you. :) Feb 09 13:15:14 hi Feb 09 15:00:38 hi Feb 09 15:42:10 hi Feb 09 15:43:58 hello Feb 09 15:44:05 evening johnx Feb 09 15:44:14 how are you this saturday ? Feb 09 15:44:39 pretty good Feb 09 15:44:47 will probably catch some sleep in a bit Feb 09 15:44:58 are you tired? Feb 09 15:45:15 that's the problem :) I really should sleep, but I'm not that tired yet Feb 09 15:45:32 read some mathematic text ;) Feb 09 17:00:09 re Feb 09 17:00:16 how can i change window manager ? Feb 09 18:46:17 does spitz support on demand frequency scaling? Feb 09 19:36:28 HRH_H_Crab: pxa270 does. not sure if it is implemented in the rp kernels Feb 09 19:36:50 pxa25x cpu scaling support just hit mainline, and there is a version with pxa270 support in the handhelds.org kernel tree. Feb 09 19:39:35 linux-rp kernel does not contain pxa27x cpufreq Feb 09 19:40:21 pH5: hh.org kernel contain lot of not-merged stuff Feb 09 19:41:22 pH5: hh.org is still 2.6.21? Feb 09 19:42:02 yes, it keeps lagging behind. Feb 09 19:42:23 I like Richard way Feb 09 19:42:34 mainline + bunch of patches Feb 09 19:42:43 there is so much stuff I'd like to merge, but I don't find the time. and it seems other people involved have the same problem. Feb 09 19:43:15 common problem Feb 09 19:43:32 and also lack of kernel hackers Feb 09 20:18:18 hi Feb 09 22:01:49 hrw / pH5: so im guessing, yes the hardware supports it, but unless i want to get my hands dirty (so to speak) i should sit tight for a while? (my preference is to run a fairly "vanilla" angstrom) Feb 09 22:04:05 HRH_H_Crab: exactly. The pxa270 cpufreq support is not very complicated and confined to one file (cpu-pxa.c), but I currently can't even boot my device on post-2.6.24 kernels, so I can't test anything right now :( Feb 09 22:05:15 well, if im honest, i don't have much need for it. im much braver with x86 stuff, or even ppc or amd64, but when it comes to my z, im a scared little child! Feb 09 22:05:52 seems like it could be more useful on my z than my amd64 rig though! Feb 09 22:06:53 yeah, power consumption is the killer on handheld devices. Feb 09 22:09:36 just out of interest, what do you mean by the "rp kernel" is that what angstrom uses? Feb 09 22:13:08 yes, RP's kernel recipes that the zaurus machines use in openembedded (packages/linux/linux-rp_*.bb) Feb 09 22:13:38 i havent really got my head around open embedded / bitbake yet. Feb 09 22:13:45 its something ive meant to do for a while, Feb 09 22:13:53 but im no programmer. Feb 09 22:15:37 i liked the idea of being able to build packages myself that the angstrom team hadnt got around to yet, but i managed to persuade dcordes to very kindly look at building mpd / ncmpc for me, and it became apparent very soon, that some programming knowledge was needed to make stuff work. Feb 09 22:16:42 HRH_H_Crab: right, it depends. sometimes you get lucky and things just work, sometimes you have to fix. Feb 09 22:21:57 Just to confirm, linux-rp doesn't have frequency scaling on the pxa27x. Nobodys ever given me a patch and I've never had the time to write/merge one Feb 09 22:25:15 RP: are you the dude that makes the kernel for my z then? if so thanks! :D Feb 09 22:25:31 HRH_H_Crab: you're welcome :) Feb 09 22:27:26 RP: well, now that pxa25x scaling is in mainline, hopefully the chances that somebody will step forward and submit the 27x support, too, have increased a bit :) Feb 09 22:27:49 pH5: I didn't see the 25x patch go in but yes, hopefully Feb 09 22:28:18 pH5: I got the input system power event -> apm bridge in this time, much to my surprise Feb 09 22:28:34 and a few work related mtd tweaks Feb 09 22:29:02 My next target is really to try and trim down the kernel size a bit... Feb 09 22:32:57 oh, good. upstream nobody seemed to care much in the last few months. Feb 09 22:33:11 This is assuming I find any time... Feb 09 22:33:43 heh. there's that universal catch again :) Feb 09 23:27:58 RP: are you around? Feb 09 23:30:48 RP: while you're looking at mtd, there are some minor tweakings... Feb 09 23:32:08 RP: 1) sharpsl-flash.c Line 95 printk(KERN_NOTICE "Using %s partision definition\n", part_type); Feb 09 23:32:24 RP: "partision" ? Feb 09 23:34:01 RP: 2) c7x0.conf Line 11 # yes, we are aware that the husky (c760,c860) has 53MB rootfs, Feb 09 23:34:42 RP: IMHO there are 53, and not 54 as in the original c7x0.conf **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 10 02:59:57 2008