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Mar 08 11:02:51 <johnx> does anyone know if ipkg works on any machine that uses arm-oabi, ie anything with a strongarm in it?
Mar 08 11:03:10 <johnx> I can't tell if this is some problem with ipkg on the collie or ipkg on any oabi machine
Mar 08 12:26:58 <mimecar> hi
Mar 08 12:27:46 <johnx> hello
Mar 08 12:28:05 <mimecar> hi johnx
Mar 08 12:34:08 <mimecar> johnx: where you workin with collie and angstrom?
Mar 08 12:34:36 <johnx> more "poking at" than "working on"
Mar 08 12:34:59 <mimecar> ie, playing ;)
Mar 08 12:35:08 <johnx> exactly
Mar 08 12:35:24 <mimecar> have you play with sd?
Mar 08 12:36:01 <johnx> a while ago
Mar 08 12:36:05 <johnx> it seemed to work
Mar 08 12:36:15 <johnx> ipkg still doesn't though
Mar 08 12:36:53 <mimecar> can you use sd??
Mar 08 12:37:30 <johnx> yeah...at least enough to run ls /media/card
Mar 08 12:37:34 <johnx> I didn't test it much
Mar 08 12:38:13 <mimecar> what's the kernel you're using?
Mar 08 12:38:49 <johnx> the one I tested with was from some time in february
Mar 08 12:39:10 <johnx> the one I currently have flashed is from like today
Mar 08 12:39:17 <mimecar> i must check media card folder
Mar 08 12:39:22 <johnx> I'll test it in a couple minutes
Mar 08 12:39:32 <mimecar> ok
Mar 08 13:07:27 <johnx> testing now
Mar 08 13:08:11 <mimecar> good luck
Mar 08 16:16:06 <shaplov> Hi all! I have a newbie-question: How to browse the content of ipk-package. I'va tired to gunzip, bunzup2, and tar -xf nothing helped. How to do it?
Mar 08 16:18:02 <pH5> shaplov: try ar x
Mar 08 16:19:10 <XorA|gone> dpkg-deb -c blah.ipk
Mar 08 16:19:49 <shaplov> pH5: Thx
Mar 08 16:20:57 <shaplov> XorA|gone: Got it... 
Mar 08 16:22:49 <XorA|gone> .ipk is same format as .deb
Mar 08 16:23:00 <XorA|gone> well the ones OE makes normally are anyway
Mar 08 16:42:59 <HRH_H_Crab> be afraid be very afraid.
Mar 08 16:43:23 <HRH_H_Crab> i have installed bitbake / OE and monotone and all that stuff in a xen based build host.
Mar 08 16:43:38 <HRH_H_Crab> and i am trying to build nano for the slug as a little test.
Mar 08 16:43:45 <HRH_H_Crab> (even though i won't be able to install it!)
Mar 08 16:44:19 <CoreDump> HRH_H_Crab: fwiw, I asked about the default password. Everybody told me it is empty :\
Mar 08 16:44:45 <HRH_H_Crab> CoreDump: yeah rwhitby showed up eventually,
Mar 08 16:45:08 <HRH_H_Crab> and told me that i would have to build a new image with a "seeded" (if thats the right term) /etc/passwd.
Mar 08 16:45:18 <CoreDump> hrmm
Mar 08 16:45:30 <HRH_H_Crab> so therefore i find myself teaching myself all this stuff.
Mar 08 16:45:48 <HRH_H_Crab> which is not too bad,
Mar 08 16:46:05 <CoreDump> well, why is a working password not the default 
Mar 08 16:46:10 <HRH_H_Crab> at some point i can maybe roll myself a nice little mpd/ncmpc ipkg.
Mar 08 16:46:23 <HRH_H_Crab> CoreDump: dunno.
Mar 08 16:46:42 <HRH_H_Crab> i think on other machines the lack of working password isnt such a problem.
Mar 08 16:46:57 <HRH_H_Crab> i discovered this same thing a few times with my spitz,
Mar 08 16:47:04 <CoreDump> I could build you slugos images, but I'm not set up for angstrom on NSLU2 right now
Mar 08 16:47:12 <HRH_H_Crab> CoreDump: heh
Mar 08 16:47:30 <HRH_H_Crab> well, with a little bit of help, you can teach me how to do it myself! ;P
Mar 08 16:47:39 <CoreDump> =)
Mar 08 16:48:04 <HRH_H_Crab> its gone very smoothly so far, but im sure that won't last! :D
Mar 08 16:48:38 <CoreDump> a working OE build environment is a very useful thing to have
Mar 08 16:49:19 <HRH_H_Crab> yeah i can see that, plus its been insanely fun so far.
Mar 08 16:49:41 <HRH_H_Crab> although im a non programmer, i do like all this compiling stuff for some reason, always have.
Mar 08 16:49:50 <HRH_H_Crab> there used to be a way to build gnome from source,
Mar 08 16:49:59 <HRH_H_Crab> that was the first time i saw anything like that i guess,
Mar 08 16:50:09 <HRH_H_Crab> its very fascinating.
Mar 08 16:50:25 <CoreDump> indeed
Mar 08 16:50:45 <CoreDump> but bitbake inside a VM is going to be rather slow I'd imagine
Mar 08 16:51:12 <HRH_H_Crab> well im patient.
Mar 08 16:51:20 <HRH_H_Crab> ive run gentoo on some pretty lame machines,
Mar 08 16:51:34 <HRH_H_Crab> and the xen system is doing nothing much atm.
Mar 08 16:52:09 <HRH_H_Crab> (except for that one vm)
Mar 08 16:52:31 <HRH_H_Crab> and because this is the first thing ive built, im guessing its creating a little toolchain,
Mar 08 16:52:41 <HRH_H_Crab> so most of the process is being held up by downloads atm.
Mar 08 16:52:41 <CoreDump> right
Mar 08 16:54:38 <CoreDump> HRH_H_Crab: did rwhitby tell you the name of the image to build for the nslu2?
Mar 08 16:55:08 <CoreDump> console-image, minimal-image?
Mar 08 16:55:47 <HRH_H_Crab> no
Mar 08 16:55:53 <HRH_H_Crab> but im guessing it will be minimal
Mar 08 16:55:54 <CoreDump> what is the DISTRO and MACHINE?
Mar 08 16:56:10 <HRH_H_Crab> atm, MACHINE is nslu2le, and distro is the default
Mar 08 16:56:15 <HRH_H_Crab> angstrom 2008.1 i guess.
Mar 08 16:56:30 <HRH_H_Crab> im just doing "bitbake nano" as a test.
Mar 08 16:56:37 <HRH_H_Crab> i don't even use nano!
Mar 08 16:56:38 <HRH_H_Crab> ;)
Mar 08 16:57:06 <HRH_H_Crab> i also need to figure out exactly what i need to do to the files before i build the image in order to "seed" /etc/passwd (if thats the right word)
Mar 08 16:59:08 <CoreDump> right
Mar 08 17:02:17 <HRH_H_Crab> so I have ~/OE
Mar 08 17:02:39 <HRH_H_Crab> and under that, i have build and org.openembedded.blah...
Mar 08 17:02:42 <HRH_H_Crab> and tmp
Mar 08 17:02:51 <HRH_H_Crab> where will it actually put the finished stuff?
Mar 08 17:02:55 <HRH_H_Crab> somewhere under build?
Mar 08 17:03:18 <CoreDump> under tmp
Mar 08 17:03:25 <CoreDump> tmp/deploy/*
Mar 08 17:03:40 <HRH_H_Crab> cool
Mar 08 17:04:17 * CoreDump pulls 200+ monotone revs...
Mar 08 17:09:22 <HRH_H_Crab> well thanks for your help CoreDump, im gonna leave this cooking and go get some food...
Mar 08 17:09:25 <HRH_H_Crab> see you later!
Mar 08 17:09:34 <CoreDump> later HRH_H_Crab 
Mar 08 17:12:26 * CoreDump I just started a minimal image, lets see how long that is going to take
Mar 08 17:57:08 <CoreDump> fwiw, minimal-image failed during do_rootfs in when using .dev
Mar 08 18:37:50 <shaplov> The second newbe question is how to determinate which package provides stddef.h for example... ipkg search stddef.h gives nothing, but I know for sure that it is a part of linux-libc-headers-dev package
Mar 08 19:18:34 <HRH_H_Crab> lo dcordes_ 
Mar 08 19:18:47 <dcordes_> hey HRH_H_Crab 
Mar 08 19:18:55 <dcordes_> got your slug working?
Mar 08 19:18:59 <HRH_H_Crab> nope
Mar 08 19:19:08 <HRH_H_Crab> but i finally installed bitbake / oe
Mar 08 19:19:16 <HRH_H_Crab> i am building nano atm as a test as per the docs.
Mar 08 19:19:35 <HRH_H_Crab> then i need to figure out what to do to make an image with a passowrd,
Mar 08 19:19:39 <HRH_H_Crab> then install the slug,
Mar 08 19:20:05 <HRH_H_Crab> once i can do that, ill prob. forget all about the slug and throw myself headfirst into the mpd/ncmpc project for spitz! ;)
Mar 08 19:20:52 <HRH_H_Crab> NOTE: Running task 200 of 304 (ID: 119, /home/crab/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc_2.6.1.bb, do_compile)
Mar 08 19:20:55 <HRH_H_Crab> NOTE: package glibc-2.6.1: started
Mar 08 19:20:57 <HRH_H_Crab> NOTE: package glibc-2.6.1-r3: task do_compile: started
Mar 08 19:21:02 <HRH_H_Crab> nano has a bit more to do yet ;)
Mar 08 19:22:01 <summatusmentis> is there anyone around who knows their way around the Angstrom Wiki? I can't figure out how to create a page
Mar 08 19:35:35 <dcordes_> HRH_H_Crab, OE can be quite fun and useful
Mar 08 19:35:51 <dcordes_> what's mpd/ncmpc?
Mar 08 19:36:16 <summatusmentis> isnt' mpd media player daemon?
Mar 08 19:36:16 <dcordes_> ah I remember. I already tried to make a recipe for it
Mar 08 19:36:45 <HRH_H_Crab> yeah
Mar 08 19:36:50 <dcordes_> me and a friend are seeking to get a cheap pda based media streaming client for his bar
Mar 08 19:37:18 <HRH_H_Crab> its been fun so far (OE)
Mar 08 19:38:06 <HRH_H_Crab> i tested an rtsp stream thingy with my z.
Mar 08 19:38:21 <HRH_H_Crab> but sadly using wifi rather than the edge network that you used.
Mar 08 19:38:31 <HRH_H_Crab> worked very well.
Mar 08 19:54:24 <HRH_H_Crab> well, it looks like i made some nano related packages and stuff.
Mar 08 19:54:44 <HRH_H_Crab> but i have no idea what to do to fix the slug issue except in horribly general terms.
Mar 08 19:54:54 <HRH_H_Crab> rwhitby: if you are about give me a shout pls!
Mar 08 19:57:49 <dcordes_> HRH_H_Crab, maybe you can just copy the passwd or something from your spitz build?
Mar 08 19:58:47 <HRH_H_Crab> but to where?
Mar 08 19:58:51 <HRH_H_Crab> :P
Mar 08 19:59:29 <HRH_H_Crab> presumably (and this is based from some stuff ive read in a few posts), i need to build some image,
Mar 08 19:59:41 <HRH_H_Crab> then go back through the files used to build that image,
Mar 08 20:00:10 <HRH_H_Crab> thats when i guess i copy /etc/shadow or something over,
Mar 08 20:00:40 <HRH_H_Crab> and then i may have to run a couple of make <something> by hand in order to make a new image?
Mar 08 20:00:51 <HRH_H_Crab> but thats a lot of details i cant really figure out.
Mar 08 20:02:09 <dcordes_> phew I have no idea where that is configured
Mar 08 20:02:21 <dcordes_> maybe there is even a local.conf bit for this
Mar 08 20:02:49 <dcordes_> pH5, do you know where to set default password?
Mar 08 20:03:02 <dcordes_> HRH_H_Crab, bbl much succes
Mar 08 20:03:32 <HRH_H_Crab> np, see you later!
Mar 08 20:37:28 <pH5> dcordes_: I don't. probably patching base-passwd's passwd.master and disabling zap_root_password in the image.bb would do the trick.
Mar 08 20:46:50 <HRH_H_Crab> pH5: if i wanted to do that, and was starting from scratch, would i start by building base-image?
Mar 08 20:50:36 <pH5> Just patch base-passwd to include your password, and then build whatever image you like. if you want to build one of those images that call zap_root_password when DISTRO_TYPE is "release", you have to disable that.
Mar 08 20:51:05 <pH5> (This is speculation. I have not tried this myself.)
Mar 08 20:56:08 <HRH_H_Crab> aaah
Mar 08 20:56:15 <HRH_H_Crab> i see what you mean i think,
Mar 08 20:56:48 <HRH_H_Crab> there is a slugos patch.
Mar 08 20:57:18 <HRH_H_Crab> i copied that over the default one, and now ill see what happens if i try bitbake base-image && bitbake minimal-image
Mar 08 23:45:25 <HRH_H_Crab> root@nslu2le:~# uname -a
Mar 08 23:45:25 <HRH_H_Crab> Linux nslu2le 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Sat Mar 8 23:06:43 GMT 2008 armv5tel unknown
Mar 08 23:45:27 <HRH_H_Crab> :D
Mar 08 23:49:36 <marlon_> what device is that for HRH_H_Crab?
Mar 08 23:50:20 <HRH_H_Crab> marlon_: slug
Mar 08 23:50:53 <HRH_H_Crab> the fun part was, that in order to get that far, ive had to build my own custom image using bitbake / oe.
Mar 08 23:51:19 <HRH_H_Crab> was extremely easy really once i figured out a few bits.
Mar 08 23:53:20 <marlon_> ah nice
Mar 08 23:53:23 <marlon_> whats the kernel version of the latest slug release?
Mar 08 23:55:25 <HRH_H_Crab> 2.6.24 by the look of it.
Mar 08 23:55:42 <HRH_H_Crab> thats from a fresh download of OE
Mar 09 00:03:17 <marlon_> cool
Mar 09 00:03:29 <marlon_> i was happy enough a couple of days ago when 2.6.23 for poodle came out
Mar 09 00:03:36 <marlon_> was waiting for sdhc support :D
Mar 09 00:03:43 <HRH_H_Crab> is that working?
Mar 09 00:04:08 <HRH_H_Crab> ill prob. think about grabbing an 8GB sd once the prices become sane if so.
Mar 09 00:04:36 <marlon_> yeah it works great, i now have root on sd, and 8 gigs of it :)
Mar 09 00:04:49 <marlon_> i bought an 8 gig sdhc card on ebay for 33 dollars with shipping
Mar 09 00:04:53 <marlon_> from the states to canada
Mar 09 00:05:06 <marlon_> so you probably dont even have to wait for sane prices ;)
Mar 09 00:05:34 <HRH_H_Crab> awesome
Mar 09 00:05:43 <marlon_> yeah its good times
Mar 09 00:05:50 <marlon_> anyway im heading off
Mar 09 00:05:51 <marlon_> ttyl
Mar 09 00:25:31 <hvontres|home> HRH_H_Crab: congrats on getting into your slug :) 
Mar 09 00:25:49 <HRH_H_Crab> ty
Mar 09 00:26:19 <HRH_H_Crab> bit of an anticlimax now ive got it installed!
Mar 09 00:26:25 <hvontres|home> HRH_H_Crab: maybe you could post a bug at  http://bugs.openembedded.org and outline what you did so the devs can fix it for future releases :)
Mar 09 00:26:35 <HRH_H_Crab> this image doesnt even contain ipkg!
Mar 09 00:26:40 <HRH_H_Crab> hmm...
Mar 09 00:26:47 <HRH_H_Crab> i think there is already one posted...
Mar 09 00:26:53 * HRH_H_Crab looks through his logs...
Mar 09 00:27:01 <hvontres|home> HRH_H_Crab: which image is that?
Mar 09 00:28:09 <HRH_H_Crab> minimal-image
Mar 09 00:29:38 <hvontres|home> HRH_H_Crab: hmm.. maybe you should try console-image instead..
Mar 09 00:30:26 <HRH_H_Crab> ill give that a try
Mar 09 00:30:46 <HRH_H_Crab> just updating that bug report with what i did to work around it.
Mar 09 00:34:01 <hvontres|home> HRH_H_Crab: cool. Thanks
Mar 09 00:38:15 <HRH_H_Crab> hmmm console image doesnt want to build, but im too tired to worry about it right now.
Mar 09 00:38:23 <HRH_H_Crab> ive achieved a lot today, so that can wait.
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Mar 09 12:19:14 <HRH_H_Crab> ERROR: '['/home/crab/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/tasks/task-base.bb']' RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS or otherwise requires the runtime entity 'wireless-tools' but it wasn't found in any PACKAGE or RPROVIDES variables
Mar 09 12:19:19 <HRH_H_Crab> NOTE: Runtime target 'wireless-tools' is unbuildable, removing...
Mar 09 12:19:45 <HRH_H_Crab> can anyone give me a little bit of guidance about that?
Mar 09 12:20:13 <HRH_H_Crab> im guessing i need to specify "wireless-tools" to be built in one of those two variables, but im not sure where to set them.
Mar 09 16:09:18 <dcordes> how does one find out cf card ID again?
Mar 09 16:11:20 <dcordes> hrw|gone, ping
Mar 09 16:29:13 <CoreDump> pccardctl info or something like that
Mar 09 16:31:32 <mrdata> dcordes: pccardctl -v ls
Mar 09 18:11:43 <mimeca1> hi
Mar 09 18:11:53 <mimeca1> I get this error after update OE database => http://pastebin.com/m11fffbc2
Mar 09 19:07:02 <mimecar> re
Mar 09 19:19:42 <mimecar> hi dcordes
Mar 09 19:19:48 <mimecar> hi dcordes_
Mar 09 19:28:08 <dcordes_> hey mimecar how aer you these days?
Mar 09 19:28:22 <mimecar> i'm fine, with some work but fine
Mar 09 19:29:14 <mimecar> playing with collie :)
Mar 09 19:30:31 <mimecar> dcordes_: and you?
Mar 09 19:34:05 <dcordes_> mimecar, I'm close to final examinations so bit busy
Mar 09 19:34:21 <mimecar> ok
Mar 09 21:56:45 <mimecar> hi
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