**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 09 02:59:57 2008 Apr 09 07:35:18 hi, i was able to build an angstrom x11 image now, but contrary to base-image, i can't login anymore. it says: "login; no valid shadow password" (for root) Apr 09 07:36:18 is this logging in remotely? Apr 09 07:36:29 anyways, angstrom shouldn't be using shadowed passwords I think... Apr 09 07:36:30 no, on qemu console Apr 09 07:36:55 angstrom stable or unstable? Apr 09 07:37:11 stable i think. i'm using org.openembedded.stable Apr 09 07:37:37 i did a loop-back mount of the rootfs and a passwd, then it works Apr 09 07:37:47 ah, well that's good then Apr 09 07:39:16 how can i start X now? Apr 09 07:39:31 is there some additional config necessary? Apr 09 07:39:47 you build the X11 image, but it's not coming up into X by default? Apr 09 07:39:49 hmm... Apr 09 07:39:56 the display manager is called gpe-dm I believe Apr 09 07:39:57 yeah, seems so Apr 09 07:40:00 it should have an init script Apr 09 07:40:10 Which X server did it build for you? Apr 09 07:40:18 474 KiB /i686/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.3.0.0-r24_i686.ipk Apr 09 07:40:25 that makes sense then Apr 09 07:40:36 wrong one? Apr 09 07:40:38 missing fbdev? Apr 09 07:40:45 no that should be right Apr 09 07:40:51 is there an init script for gpe-dm? Apr 09 07:41:12 yes....but doesnt do anything Apr 09 07:41:22 prints "Starting..." Apr 09 07:41:24 and then nothing Apr 09 07:41:26 can you run gpe-dm by hand? Apr 09 07:41:31 yes, the same Apr 09 07:41:36 and have you tried a test run of Xfbdev? Apr 09 07:41:48 yes...gives this: Apr 09 07:42:12 various failures for opening sockets Apr 09 07:42:18 and then dev/fb0 no such file/dir Apr 09 07:42:24 at last: no screens found Apr 09 07:42:31 i use a custom kernel, though Apr 09 07:43:08 ah, have you compiled framebuffer support into it? Apr 09 07:43:11 provided it as a module? Apr 09 07:43:19 i don't think so Apr 09 07:43:25 you definitely need frambuffer support for xfbdev :) Apr 09 07:43:25 do i need anything else? Apr 09 07:43:30 yeah ;) Apr 09 07:43:46 I don't know off the top of my head...input support would be important Apr 09 07:43:55 hid? Apr 09 07:44:14 just, whatever you plan to use Apr 09 07:44:36 # CONFIG_FB is not set Apr 09 07:44:45 that would be a problem :) Apr 09 07:44:49 just =y or are there some subentries? Apr 09 07:44:59 because i think i cant do make menuconfig here Apr 09 07:45:00 I honestly don't know Apr 09 07:45:12 there are probably some subentries Apr 09 07:45:25 maybe put a =y then make oldconfig Apr 09 07:45:42 im working on /stuff/org.openembedded.stable/packages/linux/linux-2.6.21/defconfig Apr 09 07:45:44 so no make here Apr 09 07:45:50 but i'll check somewhere else Apr 09 07:46:00 but thanks anyways! Apr 09 07:46:12 sure, good luck Apr 09 09:32:39 hi Apr 09 09:32:54 anyone with a poodle here? Apr 09 09:52:42 ~seen RP Apr 09 12:02:10 RP: ping Apr 09 12:26:14 cedric_: pong Apr 09 12:27:20 RP: hi Apr 09 12:28:14 RP: just built a X11-image on .dev for my poodle with the latest stable kernel 2.6.23 Apr 09 12:28:32 and the touchscreen is not mapped in /dev/input Apr 09 12:28:49 :/ Apr 09 12:28:58 the kernel find the /sys/class/input1 Apr 09 12:29:34 therefore I can't calibrate my device and use the TS... Apr 09 12:30:05 any idea? Apr 09 12:30:28 I'm using angstrom-2008-1 Apr 09 12:30:49 I've trying your kernel 2.6.24, and same thing Apr 09 12:30:55 Is there /dev/input/event0 and event1 ? Apr 09 12:31:11 no /dev/input at all Apr 09 12:31:53 ok, so udev broke or the input subsystem is missing from the kernel Apr 09 12:32:01 can you pastebin dmesg? Apr 09 12:32:57 RP: do you prefer 2.6.23 or 2.6.24? Apr 09 12:33:23 I don't mind :) Apr 09 12:33:39 If I fix anything it will probably be 2.6.24 Apr 09 12:34:22 ok so let me build a new image with that kernel Apr 09 13:10:40 RP: http://pastebin.com/m5c3649c7 Apr 09 13:20:23 cedric_: The input core is seeing the drivers so it looks like it could be a udev issue Apr 09 13:20:39 cedric_: input: Corgi Touchscreen as /class/input/input1 Apr 09 13:20:56 cedric_: You could try manually creating the right files in /dev and see if they work Apr 09 13:20:57 RP: yep that's what I've saw Apr 09 13:21:22 Note that /dev is dynamically generated so it will reset each time the device reboots Apr 09 13:26:14 RP: mknod with? Apr 09 13:27:19 cedric_: yes, mknod them Apr 09 13:29:37 RP: type, major, minor? Apr 09 13:31:39 cedric_: no idea offhand, google should know Apr 09 13:45:47 cedric_: or look at your desktop Apr 09 13:47:41 RP: but I haven't a TS on my desktop, or am I missing something? Apr 09 13:48:10 cedric_: /dev/input/touchscreen0 is a symlink to one of the eventX files Apr 09 13:48:41 Run od against /dev/input/event0 and event1 to see which one is the touchscreen. You'll see number when touching the touchscreen (or should anyway) Apr 09 13:55:07 RP: I've done the mknod on event1 Apr 09 13:55:28 and I'm getting some stuff in the console when I'm touching the TS Apr 09 13:56:06 but xtscal doesn't move the cursor Apr 09 13:57:11 cedric_: Did you create the symlink to point toucshcreen0 to event1? Apr 09 13:57:29 RP: yep Apr 09 13:57:35 cedric_: and restart X? Apr 09 13:57:49 RP: nope Apr 09 13:58:27 RP: I've used the major/minor from my desktop, not sure it's correct... Apr 09 13:58:44 cedric_: You're getting data, its correct Apr 09 14:00:14 init 3, doesn't work on this system? :-) Apr 09 14:00:54 /etc/init,d/gpe-dm stop, then start Apr 09 14:01:55 the calibration screen do nothing Apr 09 14:02:22 hi, i can start Xfbdev / gpe-dm on my angstrom stable build now, but it just flickers and then returns to console Apr 09 14:02:41 is TSLIB_TSDEVICE set in the device environment? Apr 09 14:03:45 yep Apr 09 14:04:27 cedric_: I don't know then :( Apr 09 14:04:39 cedric_: angstrom stable or OE.dev? Apr 09 14:04:46 .dev Apr 09 14:05:13 All I can suggest is I try a build sometime but I don't know when that will be Apr 09 14:06:16 but anyway, for you it's the rootfs? Apr 09 14:06:25 issue Apr 09 14:06:32 I think so Apr 09 14:07:04 in /dev, I've got sharp_ts Apr 09 14:07:27 ignore that, its because udev isn't working Apr 09 14:07:40 ok Apr 09 14:08:02 the touchscreen program is xtscal, you could try running it manually Apr 09 14:08:27 or stracing it to see whether it reads the right device Apr 09 14:08:34 yes that's what I've done before restart the gpe-dm Apr 09 14:09:13 after a restart, it call the xtscal automatically Apr 09 14:12:34 do i need ipv6 for using Xfbdev in angstrom? Apr 09 14:12:44 RP: I've mknod the TS as character device Apr 09 14:12:59 when i do Xfbdev, it throws some messages related to ipv6, but i don't no if its critical Apr 09 14:13:05 at the end: no screens found Apr 09 14:14:18 cedric_: I was wondering if xtscal wasn't being called with the environmental variable set Apr 09 14:31:58 RP: who is maintaining udev? Apr 09 14:33:36 cedric_: no one person I don't think :/ Apr 09 14:55:09 RP: between angstrom-2007 and .dev --> same udev release Apr 09 18:01:43 Trying to connect the Z to the wireless network, but I keep getting "Network is uncreachable" when pinging to the router. Also, the green led on the network card is on, so its getting something, I just dont understand what it would be Apr 09 18:01:54 Any ideas what Ive forgotten to do? Apr 09 18:14:51 turn off WEP / WPA, MAC filters and packet filters and try again ;) Apr 09 18:16:29 Furre: wild stab in the dark, but what kernel are you running? Apr 09 18:17:16 r14, but.. I remember having these problems half a year ago aswell, just not how to solve it :x Apr 09 18:17:34 it get a random IP, but not one from the router at all even when I have dhcp active Apr 09 18:17:39 Furre: what is that in uname -a terms? Apr 09 18:18:34 i ask because i recently (a week or two ago) upgraded to .24 and had no joy whatsoever, regressed back to .23 (and obviously appropriate modules) and it worked fine. Apr 09 18:19:28 when I use ifconfig -a wlan0 you mean? Apr 09 18:20:08 well, what i am getting at, is that i have a feeling something might be broken in the .24 kernel i upgraded too a while back. Apr 09 18:20:20 i don't know if thats fixed in the feeds. Apr 09 18:20:27 s/too/to Apr 09 18:21:22 if you are running a .23 or earlier kernel, things should at least possibly work, if you get everything else configured properly, but i think something is dodgy with that .24 kernel. Apr 09 18:21:34 oh, well it have actually worked once, just not sure why its not now :) Apr 09 18:21:45 ah okk :/ Apr 09 18:21:48 Furre: do uname -a and paste the output! Apr 09 18:22:39 heh, cant really paste it but Ill write what it say ;) "Linux akita 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Mar 26 14:55:34 CET 2008 arm v5tel unknown" Apr 09 18:22:45 yeah, Apr 09 18:23:00 try flashing to .23 Apr 09 18:23:22 you will need to download the .23 modules, and untar them to /lib/modules/ Apr 09 18:23:46 i might be wrong, someone may have fixed .24 since i last tried it, but ive not read anything anywhere. Apr 09 18:23:51 hmm, think I probasbly should do it fromscratch : Apr 09 18:23:53 ah okk :) Apr 09 18:24:42 just.. I have no clue why the network card show a green led as if its connected to something, but I dont get what o.o Apr 09 18:24:52 well, all i know is this: Apr 09 18:24:58 i use wep, and dhcp. Apr 09 18:25:05 yeah, same here :x Apr 09 18:25:12 ive used angstrom for a while, and used 2 or 3 kernels. Apr 09 18:25:25 the other day i upgraded to .24 and suddenly *BANG* no more wifi. Apr 09 18:25:36 scratched my head, farted around for a while, no joy. Apr 09 18:25:52 regressed to .23 and .23 modules, and back on the network no problems whatsoever! Apr 09 18:25:55 ymmmv. Apr 09 18:25:56 -m Apr 09 18:25:57 heh okk, Ill try 2.3 :) Apr 09 18:26:13 but hmm, why do one need to download the .23 modules seperatly? Apr 09 18:26:30 because the .24 modules won't work with a .23 kernel. Apr 09 18:26:47 oh, I know, but I was thinking of reinstalling all of the Z Apr 09 18:26:50 there may be a more elegant way of telling ipkg to downgrade kernel modules, but i don't know it! Apr 09 18:27:05 Furre: if you don't mind doing so, thats a nice clean way, Apr 09 18:27:09 but i couldnt be bothered! ;) Apr 09 18:27:28 hehe, well, can let it run by itself, took like 40minutes to install last time ^^ Apr 09 18:28:11 brb i about an hour ;)( Apr 09 18:30:40 http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080409-first-look-mozilla-fennec-targets-handheld-browser-market.html Apr 09 18:34:14 hmm, is there no rootfs for r13? Apr 09 18:36:25 ah, in the autobuild there was ^^ Apr 10 00:51:43 So I just got one of those newfangled Nokia N800s. Apr 10 00:52:15 I was wondering how much interest the Angstrom devs had in it. Apr 10 00:53:11 i.e. will Angstrom ever support it in a usable state, or should I just stick with Maemo? Apr 10 01:38:56 There is an openembedded distribution called Momona(iirc) that is intended for the Nxxx devices Apr 10 01:39:08 as for specific interest, I'm not sure what the devs take on that it Apr 10 01:39:09 is* Apr 10 02:55:50 I think there's a project to build a set of packages for the distributed N800 OS to make it more hacker-friendly **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 10 02:59:56 2008