**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 10 02:59:56 2008 Apr 10 04:54:05 summatusmentis: I found that project. It's called Mamona. Thanks :D Apr 10 04:54:23 sure thing :) Apr 10 04:54:58 I still have a Zaurus I need to try with the latest Angstrom, though @_@ Apr 10 05:58:56 hi, does anyone use bitbake 1.8.10 with angstrom? Apr 10 05:59:03 or should i use 1.8.8? Apr 10 06:02:25 because i get very lot errors like this: ERROR: QA Issue: pango-tibetan-fc.la failed sanity test (workdir) in path /opt/OE/angstrom-tmp//staging/arm-angstrom-linux/usr/lib/pango/1.6.0/modules Apr 10 08:22:59 I still fail to be able to connect with the wireless network when running r13 instead of r14 aswell :/ Apr 10 08:25:24 Furre: whats the kernel version with r13? Apr 10 08:25:45 also, what does demsg say? Apr 10 08:25:51 *dmesg Apr 10 08:26:03 i always type demsg. :( Apr 10 08:31:36 dmesg say a whole lot of things, uname -a say 2.6.24 Apr 10 08:31:41 aww, im still on 24? :s Apr 10 08:34:12 well its still at least possible that its that kernel then. Apr 10 08:34:27 there should be some stuff in dmesg about the nic. Apr 10 08:34:39 something about some sort of encryption. Apr 10 08:34:42 (iirc) Apr 10 08:35:10 Furre: its really not that tricky to install the latest angstrom, Apr 10 08:35:20 and then just downgrade the kernel and modules to .23 Apr 10 08:35:27 basically, you would do a normal install. Apr 10 08:36:02 then you delete everything off the card you flashed with, except for the updater.sh or whatever its called, and then just put the .23 kernel zImage on there and do a flash. Apr 10 08:36:40 after that, you need to download the tarball of .23 modules from the website, and go to /lib, delete the .24 kernel modules, and untar the .23 ones. Apr 10 08:38:43 hmm, but isnt that sort of the same as downloading the rootfs image again and untar it on the SD card? Apr 10 08:38:55 no Apr 10 08:39:04 because you don't want the rootfs image. Apr 10 08:39:09 hang on... Apr 10 08:39:13 oh, thats what im using o.o Apr 10 08:39:19 or well, was told to use :x Apr 10 08:40:18 what machine are you on? Apr 10 08:40:33 (my knowledge is a bit spitz-centric) Apr 10 08:40:54 akita Apr 10 08:41:04 running ångström from the SD card Apr 10 08:41:13 aaah Apr 10 08:41:23 that may be what is complicating it then. Apr 10 08:41:31 i dont really know about running stuff from the card. Apr 10 08:41:43 i guess the rootfs is on the card, and the kernel is in flash? Apr 10 08:41:48 wel, installing any release isnt difficult, I just dont know which one is 23 ^^ Apr 10 08:41:56 yeah Apr 10 08:42:02 bootloader atleast o.o Apr 10 08:44:29 if you look on here: Apr 10 08:44:36 http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/AngstromManual#head-c3a1070777c61d9a94623bb1499ed2e3977d2cf0 Apr 10 08:44:59 and go to 6.2 Apr 10 08:45:09 it talks about how you flash just the kernel. Apr 10 08:45:22 you can use that to downgrade to .23 kernel. Apr 10 08:45:49 but when you have done that, the modules in your rootfs will not match, so they need to be downgraded too. Apr 10 08:46:01 oh :/ Apr 10 08:46:15 but, isnt there a release that is 23 already from the beginning? Apr 10 08:47:18 possibly, but i don't know which one! Apr 10 08:47:27 (i.e. yes there is!) Apr 10 08:47:30 since I sort of need to redo all the things that take a whole lot of time anyway :) (extracting rootfs take about 45minutes :x) Apr 10 08:47:34 hehe Apr 10 08:47:43 Furre: but my point is that isnt necessary. Apr 10 08:47:54 its perfectly possible to just downgrade the kernel. Apr 10 08:48:11 ofc, what should really happen, is that someone should fix up .24 Apr 10 08:48:13 I know, but.. I cant get wireless onto the Z, so I cant download anything with it :x Apr 10 08:48:19 (if that is really what is causing the problem) Apr 10 08:48:26 Furre: heh Apr 10 08:48:40 thats why after i got in the same mess as you, i went and bought a card reader! :D Apr 10 08:49:02 yeah I got that, but not sure I can do the whole ipkg update with it? o.o Apr 10 08:50:01 which release do you got HRH_H_Crab? Apr 10 08:50:30 i have the newest release, but i downgraded kernel to .23 Apr 10 08:50:39 (and modules) Apr 10 08:51:15 any kernel experts about that can comment on this stuff? Apr 10 08:51:24 ah, well.. I know its possible for me to get the wirelss working on .24 atleast once after installing, can probably downgrade afte rthat o.o Apr 10 08:51:47 Furre: well i am not swearing to it, Apr 10 08:52:01 but unless they have released a newer .24 than the one i worked with the other day, Apr 10 08:52:08 i don't think its possible. Apr 10 08:52:28 dont think what is possible? Apr 10 08:52:38 wifi & .24 Apr 10 08:52:56 oh, nono, I did get it to work with .24, but only once, after a reboot it didnt work anymore Apr 10 08:53:08 well thats very interesting. Apr 10 08:53:17 in that case you can ignore everything ive said! :P Apr 10 08:53:29 doh :), I sorta said that yesterday aswell xD Apr 10 08:53:37 oh well :), still wierd thought :) Apr 10 08:53:46 thanks for trying to help aswell <3 Apr 10 08:54:01 well i will maybe try and reflash .24 tonight and ill let you know if it works. Apr 10 08:54:22 alright :) Apr 10 09:37:27 hi? Apr 10 09:37:44 does someone know how to set vesa as default version for xserver-kdrive? Apr 10 09:37:58 PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver-kdrive = "vesa" doesn't seem to change anythig Apr 10 13:47:05 do ångström have problems with wep? Apr 10 14:51:25 just wondering if someone done recently an image from dev for a random zaurus? Apr 10 14:52:36 not me Apr 10 14:54:26 cedric_: what? Apr 10 14:54:37 CoreDump: have you played w/ OM on a z at all? Apr 10 14:54:58 summatusmentis: nope. I intended to but never got around to try it Apr 10 14:55:08 I'm wondering how feasible it is Apr 10 14:55:25 who is the master of udev? Apr 10 14:55:59 summatusmentis: I'd rather try the poky UI ;) Apr 10 14:56:08 look like udev 118 is bugged on my zaurus Apr 10 14:56:24 udev 092 it's ok... Apr 10 14:56:28 CoreDump: how come? I'm intrigued by the ability to potentially stop using a stylus Apr 10 14:57:21 summatusmentis: poky looks more suited for a PDA (IMO) Apr 10 14:57:24 CoreDump / summatusmentis you two are men with your fingers on the pulse, do you know anything about these issues that i (and i think others) have experienced with wifi and the .24 kernel? Apr 10 14:57:41 i regressed back to .23 and all is working fine, Apr 10 14:57:59 HRH_H_Crab: well, AFAIK the kernel guys renamed some wifi modules Apr 10 14:58:11 don't know any specifics Apr 10 14:58:29 my gut feeling is its still being worked on. Apr 10 14:58:40 HRH_H_Crab: I honestly haven't been following Angstrom recently. It's getting to the point where I've been carrying my Z w/ me, but not turning it on :-/ Which is why I'm trying to figure out a better UI Apr 10 14:58:46 (can't stand GPE) Apr 10 14:58:55 heh Apr 10 14:59:23 * CoreDump pulls 261 revs and sighs deeply Apr 10 15:00:16 HRH_H_Crab: depeding on if myself and some other students end up going to a conference, I hope to get something workable on my Z this weekend Apr 10 15:01:02 * CoreDump plans to eventually buy an UMPC and retire the Z Apr 10 15:01:02 (also considering selling my 3200, and purchasing a freerunner when it becomes available, would still keep my 5500) Apr 10 15:01:20 retire it where? Apr 10 15:01:21 well i dont actually have any problem Apr 10 15:01:57 ive regressed to .23 and its working fine, but a few others have had issues and its just a bit tricky to know what the status of things is. Apr 10 15:02:14 and for the record im loving gpe and my 3200! ;P Apr 10 15:02:17 I DON' REALLY KNOW Apr 10 15:02:24 oh, crap, caps lock Apr 10 15:02:26 sorry guys Apr 10 15:02:30 heheh Apr 10 15:02:47 I really like my 3200, but I'm looking for a single phone/pda device Apr 10 15:02:48 i might try poky though. Apr 10 15:03:02 sato (sic?) looks gorgeous. Apr 10 15:03:10 yes it does Apr 10 15:03:36 i wouldnt be surprised to see that folded into angstrom eventually anyway. Apr 10 15:03:57 I would be Apr 10 15:04:02 how come? Apr 10 15:04:13 just general pace of change? ;P Apr 10 15:04:14 I tried to build the poky UI from OE dev and failed horribly Apr 10 15:04:23 aah Apr 10 15:04:39 CoreDump: looking at the screenshots, it is pretty awesome looking Apr 10 15:04:41 It would need an awful lot of hacking to get it to build outside the poky tree =) Apr 10 15:04:47 * summatusmentis goes to nap before his next class Apr 10 15:04:50 bye all Apr 10 15:04:53 laters Apr 10 15:04:54 summatusmentis: cya Apr 10 15:05:54 * CoreDump tries a spitz build from .dev Apr 10 15:06:05 I don't expect it to succeed tho... Apr 10 15:09:29 nope, I lied. caffeine before napping is a bad idea Apr 10 15:10:30 heh Apr 10 15:11:18 :-D Apr 10 15:13:50 well, it usually takes me a lot longer than five minutes to figure that out Apr 10 15:16:19 I was laying down, my hand was twitching Apr 10 15:16:22 and I need to read :) Apr 10 15:16:40 HEHE Apr 10 15:19:15 CoreDump: let me know if it works... I can boot but the /dev/input devices are not created Apr 10 15:20:36 forget it, it didn't even pass the parsing stage Apr 10 15:21:33 CoreDump: I can build any image on my environment Apr 10 15:28:32 * summatusmentis tries an OM build for spitz Apr 10 15:32:53 * CoreDump fixes parsing error and retries Apr 10 15:35:42 BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "16" + PARALLEL_MAKE = "-j6" rulez Apr 10 15:37:57 CoreDump: what the spec of your machine? Apr 10 15:38:11 intel quad core Apr 10 15:38:26 nice Apr 10 15:39:33 it certainly is fast. I just don't use it enough :\ Apr 10 15:40:14 CoreDump: which OE distro have you set to? Apr 10 15:40:39 angstrom due to lacking alternatives heh Apr 10 17:19:15 hiyos.. which package provides bl? I uninstalled a bunch of X stuff & it's gone Apr 10 17:39:38 Hello All Apr 10 17:39:48 a question: how can one flash hx4705 from SD card (i want to install windows on it) Apr 10 20:58:08 hi Apr 10 21:01:08 hi summatusmentis Apr 10 21:01:21 hi mickey|sports Apr 10 21:01:25 and mimecar Apr 10 21:01:31 you can tell me when you want speak with jabber /msn Apr 10 21:01:32 :P Apr 10 21:02:47 will do... it may be a few weeks Apr 10 21:02:55 ok **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 11 02:59:57 2008