**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 25 02:59:57 2008 Apr 25 19:19:57 hi, can anybody tell me why http://bugs.openembedded.org is not accessible? Apr 25 19:22:28 johnaaronrose_: DNS problems Apr 25 19:24:07 XorA|gone: when will the be fixed? Apr 25 19:24:40 johnaaronrose_: no idea, I dont have access to either ip or dns Apr 25 19:25:20 strange situation, no way to check on Angstrom bugs and their fixes Apr 25 19:27:28 i'm stuffed on my home computing, as Ubuntu Hardy has not fixed major issues Apr 25 19:28:06 such as usb mouse & keyboard not working on laptop Apr 25 19:28:35 plus Angstrom have no working opie on Zaurus SL-5500 Apr 25 19:29:14 plus Angstrom have no working altboot opie image on Zaurus c7x0 Apr 25 19:31:05 nothing like a Friday litany of complaints: i'll retire now to the tv! Apr 25 19:37:57 johnaaronrose_: good plan Apr 25 19:38:06 johnaaronrose_: hopefully we can get it fixed next week Apr 25 21:13:27 XorA|gone: do you know if any opie image for h3900 should be functionning ? Apr 25 21:13:42 yann: no idea, dont have any Ipaq Apr 25 21:15:10 anyway, I'd think the problem I have could be quite generic - at least it looks like I may have overlooked something, or many targets would not be able to boot Apr 25 21:15:37 * XorA|gone knows nothing of opie either Apr 25 21:15:38 the question is, how do targets boot from flash, with mtdblock built as module, and no initrd ? Apr 25 21:19:24 with difficulty I guess Apr 25 21:20:29 XorA|gone: which target do you have ? Apr 25 21:20:43 gta01, gta02, n810 Apr 25 21:20:48 and zaurus 5500 Apr 25 21:21:50 all the defconfig's I have seen in mtn appear to have mtdblock built as module (iirc I checked the gta01 as well) - do you confirm that ? Are all those targets booting with an init(rd/ramfs/whatever) ? Apr 25 21:22:11 XorA|gone: your clamshell zaurus passed awawy :( ? Apr 25 21:22:40 dcordes: Its sitting on desk ready for me toi ebay it Apr 25 21:22:59 yann: oh wait, mtdblock is no longer a requirement, its deprecated Apr 25 21:23:09 yann: root=mtd0 root=mtd1 etc work now Apr 25 21:23:26 ah. that should be what I have missed Apr 25 21:23:41 but what provides support for these devs ? Apr 25 21:23:56 just mtd which is built in AFAIK Apr 25 21:25:31 ok. but then I wonder what's happening Apr 25 21:25:34 XorA|gone: how can I put an extra install pname for either distro? Apr 25 21:28:00 indeed, "mtd1" appears to be known by the kernel - the error is "VFS: Cannot open root device "mtd1" or unknown-block(0,255)" Apr 25 21:29:09 I wonder whether it is normal that it is the VFS complaining here instead of jffs2 Apr 25 21:34:22 dcordes: you probably know more about ipaq type machines than I, they are more like htc phones :-) Apr 25 21:37:07 fear I can't help Apr 25 21:37:40 on blueangel it 'just works' and on kaiser I only fiddled with initrd which yann obviously doesn't want Apr 25 21:37:59 yann: do you boot with haret? Apr 25 21:38:08 dcordes: I have no problem with initrd's :) Apr 25 21:38:18 no, compaq's bootldr Apr 25 21:38:29 no experience with that Apr 25 21:38:36 I'm trying to migrate from familiar Apr 25 21:38:45 XorA|gone: tried building angstrom console-image for kaiser? Apr 25 21:41:24 dcordes: I have also tried the kernel available at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/initramfs-images-available-testing - but that does not seem to be bootable by bootldr Apr 25 21:41:45 even "file" could not tell be what type of binary it is :( Apr 25 21:41:54 dcordes: I built an x11 image by accident Apr 25 21:42:18 XorA|gone: oh no! Apr 25 21:42:32 yann: I know nothing about ipaq/bootldr sorry Apr 25 21:42:42 XorA|gone: does fb work? Apr 25 21:42:59 dcordes: no idea, I think x11 image is too big to boot so I never tried Apr 25 21:43:13 XorA|gone: how big? Apr 25 21:43:14 dcordes: but maybe you know what format is used by those zImage-initramfs*.bin things ? Apr 25 21:43:38 dcordes: for other machines its about 12M Apr 25 21:43:47 dcordes: I think biggest initrd is 8M?? Apr 25 21:43:52 yann: IMAGE_FSTYPES ?= "cpio.gz" Apr 25 21:44:13 XorA|gone: I already booted 1M+32M ramdisk on kaiser Apr 25 21:44:36 yann: I have a nice command here to make initrd out of rootfs Apr 25 21:44:44 you like? Apr 25 21:45:01 dcordes: sure! Apr 25 21:46:01 as root just extract image to folder, cd to folder and then "find ./ | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > ../myinitrd.gz" Apr 25 21:47:11 dcordes: thanks Apr 25 21:48:07 XorA|gone: It would make me keen attempting yon noble x11-image Apr 25 21:48:11 so if I understand well, IMAGE_FSTYPES = "cpio.gz" would directly generate a rootf suitable as inird, right ? Apr 25 21:48:58 to my understanding yes. but you will have to mind that the usually the kernel in an initrd looks for init in /init and not in /sbin/init where angstrom drops it. Apr 25 21:49:27 just configure your kernel to boot with init=/sbin/init do work around that or symlink inside the rootfs Apr 25 21:50:45 thanks - with that I'll just have to find out the right settings for booting with initrd from ymodem Apr 25 21:51:04 probably I should put something in the wiki if I succeed :) Apr 25 21:51:27 which? Apr 25 21:54:48 yann: angstrom wiki? Apr 25 21:55:03 yes Apr 25 21:55:36 there is virtually no specific info for h3900 there Apr 25 21:56:15 and for bootldr neither Apr 25 21:58:49 I don't want to sound like an ass but did you look for instructions for similar ipaqs? Apr 25 21:58:55 afaik they are pretty similar Apr 25 22:01:05 yes, I looked at h5500 iirc - I found some interesting things, but that was not really enough Apr 25 22:01:15 there are a few s Apr 25 22:01:17 oops Apr 25 22:02:03 back when I used the h1945 it was assumed that the 1940 was basically the same, and the 1950 IIRC Apr 25 22:02:28 eg it says to use "root=/dev/mtdblock1", which does not work on 3900 (I wonder if would work on 5500, but hey, I can't check) Apr 25 22:03:53 but then, that's about 200704 / 200705, so the info may just be outdated Apr 25 22:05:53 ... and that's the only other platform described with compaq bootldr Apr 25 23:00:52 yann: any success? Apr 25 23:02:08 looks like I have not yet succeeded to tell the kernel where to take the initrd exactly :) Apr 25 23:02:47 yann: you could use haret just for trying Apr 25 23:03:07 haret runs from CE, right ? Apr 25 23:03:23 yup Apr 25 23:03:51 hey, that would require reflashing CE first:) Apr 25 23:05:32 I fear what's happening is that I'm loading the initrd at an inadequate location in RAM - I shall probably find a map of the memory Apr 25 23:05:37 yann: nooooo Apr 25 23:05:53 that would be good maybe Apr 25 23:06:22 yann: doesn't OE provide you with all the stuffz that meet your config needs? Apr 25 23:06:25 by "nooo" you mean I can run haret without reflashing CE ? Apr 25 23:06:42 possible - I'll have to dig Apr 25 23:08:38 I mean that as in noooooooooooo don't flash ce Apr 25 23:09:33 just like that http://darthno.ytmnd.com/ Apr 25 23:13:59 ah, that "nooooo" :) Apr 25 23:14:22 well, I'm not easily tempted by the dark side :) Apr 25 23:16:56 yann: did you look at handhelds.org? :x Apr 25 23:17:15 not recently Apr 25 23:18:00 (well, except today for the bootldr doc) Apr 25 23:18:17 for instructions I mean Apr 25 23:18:28 or memory map possibly Apr 25 23:19:37 I'll dig, but likely not today - I can't think straight any more :) Apr 25 23:20:05 attempting a last boot before taking some sleep Apr 25 23:21:30 yow, initramfs unpacked :) Apr 25 23:22:00 I was just loading it too close after the kernel Apr 25 23:22:51 but now, it is still failing to mount the flash Apr 25 23:23:06 at least, I should be able to hadk the initrd and get a shell Apr 25 23:24:39 'night - thanks for being patient :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 26 02:59:57 2008