**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 28 02:59:56 2008 Apr 28 21:21:46 has anyone tried poky? Apr 28 21:25:30 summatusmentis: i think dcordes_ has Apr 28 21:25:37 i was chatting with him about it. Apr 28 21:26:17 for some reason I can't get the hdimage1.tgz to get installed Apr 28 21:30:22 well, nvm, now it seems to be working Apr 28 21:31:31 good Apr 28 21:31:42 you can review it thoroughly for me. Apr 28 21:31:46 :P Apr 28 21:32:08 well, I'm hoping it'll convince me to keep my Z Apr 28 21:32:39 well im still liking angstrom a lot, but poky does look pretty awesome Apr 28 21:32:48 dcordes was very enthusiastic. Apr 28 21:32:54 good Apr 28 21:44:31 yea poky is the best thing I was running so far on Z Apr 28 21:44:52 really? Apr 28 21:45:33 yes Apr 28 21:45:40 is poky basically debian Apr 28 21:45:41 ? Apr 28 21:45:55 i was thinking of installing debian just for the software repo Apr 28 21:46:15 I had one debian image downloaded for akita some time. it was slow though Apr 28 21:46:21 I don't think poky is much of debian Apr 28 21:46:30 very close to angstrom with gpe Apr 28 21:46:55 but with newer matchbox* versions, more tidy, less bloat Apr 28 21:46:56 maybe i'm thinking of something else Apr 28 21:47:19 maybe regarding the fakt that all gui stuff is gtk based?# Apr 28 21:47:22 fact Apr 28 21:48:25 oh, i think i was thiking of Titchy Apr 28 21:50:01 dcordes_: bluetooth and pand easy to setup? Apr 28 21:50:45 HRH_H_Crab: I use the same script as on angstrom Apr 28 21:51:00 cool Apr 28 21:51:07 maybe ill give it a try sometime. Apr 28 21:51:39 whats the media player like? my z does a lot of duty as an mp3 player. Apr 28 21:51:47 one con of poky is that you can't use all of the software from the angstrom repos Apr 28 21:51:56 aah Apr 28 21:52:04 it is very basic Apr 28 21:52:15 mediaplayer that is Apr 28 21:52:30 more basic that mplayer? ;P Apr 28 21:52:41 just use mplayer Apr 28 21:52:42 the main reason i'm thinking of switching to debian is because there isn't much software in the angstrom repos Apr 28 21:52:59 dcordes_: what sort of wireless card do you have? Apr 28 21:53:01 at least not as easily installable binaries Apr 28 21:53:04 Sketch: hm may I ask what it lacks most for you? Apr 28 21:53:14 summatusmentis: none. my old one is broken Apr 28 21:53:32 but that worked just like it did in angstrom. one prism type one Apr 28 21:53:35 dcordes_: did it collapse under its own gravity? :D Apr 28 21:53:42 haha :D Apr 28 21:53:56 well, i kinda wanted to try enlightenment...not in angstrom repo (it is in OE, but it doesn't build fully last time I tried it), a few other random apps Apr 28 21:54:07 dcordes_: mines not seeming to work in poky Apr 28 21:54:15 not directly. it collapsed due to its galacticc size though Apr 28 21:54:21 debian has a pretty huge software library Apr 28 21:54:49 and at one point, i liked the PDA-style interface, but now i mostly just want to use it as a mini laptop ;) Apr 28 21:55:00 so I don't care about the default matchbox/qpe that much Apr 28 21:55:03 I never tried e but what I heard is that it is very resource friendly and fast. so maybe just the right thing for Z Apr 28 21:55:24 i think if i was using debian on z, Apr 28 21:55:44 Sketch: can you ping me when you tried? Apr 28 21:56:00 id consider *box, or maybe that other gtk based mini desktop. Apr 28 21:56:04 the name escapes me... Apr 28 21:56:18 I had a fluxbox window manager once Apr 28 21:56:27 (on my desktop) Apr 28 21:56:33 that was fast too Apr 28 21:56:39 sure Apr 28 21:56:43 you also have that in the angstrom repos Apr 28 21:57:03 tried it on Z once but that was when I didn't know much about all this. should try it again Apr 28 21:57:31 HRH_H_Crab: you mean matchbox-desktop?? Apr 28 21:57:47 no, its a more mainstream desktop. Apr 28 21:57:52 begins with f or something... Apr 28 21:58:08 i want to say fvwm Apr 28 21:58:13 but im not sure its that one. Apr 28 21:58:25 xcfe? Apr 28 21:59:43 yeah Apr 28 21:59:45 thats the one Apr 28 22:00:09 i reckon that would be the best "desktop" for z, from the mainstream choices. Apr 28 22:00:18 gnome / kde are obviously too heavy imo, Apr 28 22:00:23 yea Apr 28 22:00:24 and i think e is just too sketchy. Apr 28 22:00:30 xfce might just cut it. Apr 28 22:01:18 oh it's xfce Apr 28 22:01:27 pokys thing or gpe would prob. be nicer. Apr 28 22:01:43 i wonder whether we will ever see ubuntu mobile for z... Apr 28 22:01:49 that would be interesting. Apr 28 22:05:21 anyway, time for my (much needed) beauty sleep! Apr 28 22:05:23 nn all Apr 28 22:05:51 HRH_H_Crab: cya Apr 28 22:07:05 android seems like it might be really nice for a pda style setup Apr 28 22:07:14 if you can get it to work ;) Apr 28 22:08:23 there is some chinese blog that details on installing andoird on z Apr 28 22:09:07 you boot some rp kernel or anything then you just chroot into an android fs and start the vm stuffs Apr 28 22:09:22 already tried that but had no touchscreen yet then. Apr 28 22:09:28 I don't see much use in that though Apr 28 22:09:47 i tried it and it did the red cylon booting then and then never did anything else Apr 28 22:10:01 and then i had to nand restore to get angstrom installed again ;) Apr 28 22:10:55 mostly from android the web browser looks interesting Apr 28 22:11:08 i ought to just find all the bits and see if it will run in angstrom ;) Apr 28 22:12:32 of course android is quicker because you have no fully fledged UI like gtk or so Apr 28 22:13:02 but that brings the very lean broadband of available stuff Apr 28 22:13:22 it's like a big windows vista sidebar haha Apr 28 22:34:08 poky is very nice, but my wifi doesn't work Apr 29 02:56:55 Does anyone know of a place I can get an up to date (as in "daily/weekly build") h5000 image? I'm really tired of waiting for my angstrom image to complete building... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 29 02:59:58 2008