**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 22 02:59:57 2008
May 22 08:38:39 <deskro> hello a small help in French would be possible?
May 22 08:39:54 <deskro> the version angström opie does not function on my zaurus SSL-860
May 22 08:40:08 <deskro> sl-860
May 22 08:40:59 <deskro> of R09 in R14
May 22 08:41:03 <deskro> :(
May 22 08:41:39 <deskro> on the other hand the version x11 it functions very well
May 22 08:44:04 <deskro> openzaurus version opie it also functions very well but not the angström graphical interface this lance not
May 22 08:44:10 <deskro> sorry for my bad english 
May 22 08:44:18 <deskro> i'm frenchy :D
May 22 08:44:25 <XorA> heh no probs
May 22 08:44:41 <XorA> there are very few opie users anymore, so if you dont get an answer now, wait around a while
May 22 08:45:04 <deskro> ok
May 22 08:45:13 <XorA> whats wrong with your opie BTW?
May 22 08:46:06 <deskro> it finished not this throw it does not launch graphical interface
May 22 08:46:57 <deskro> j' have to test d' to install the minimal one and d' to install opie but it makes similar
May 22 08:47:29 <XorA> hmm, sounds serious then
May 22 08:47:52 <deskro> thus for the moment I turn on openzaurus opie
May 22 08:48:02 <XorA> mattaw: I assume you have never tried opie, you being our resident export on c7x0 devices
May 22 08:49:50 <deskro> I do not include/understand the sentence to afflict
May 22 08:52:12 <XorA> deskro: its a more serious bug than I can help with
May 22 08:58:00 <mattaw> I tried it, and it didn't boot to a gfx screen. I turned to x11 as more 'interesting' anyway
May 22 08:58:16 <mattaw> is opie still alive at all? I thought it was dying away in favour of X
May 22 08:58:52 <mattaw> deskro, >  I tested it and it did not work either. I do not know why
May 22 08:59:40 <XorA> mattaw: there are a couple of people keep prodding it to make sure its still alive
May 22 09:07:11 <deskro> ok mattaw thanks
May 22 09:07:51 <deskro> I will look at dimensioning x11
May 22 09:09:43 <eekee> is qtopia the environment included in opie images, or is it Trolltech propriety?
May 22 09:13:06 <XorA> eekee: opie is built on top of qtopia
May 22 09:13:34 <eekee> o ok!
May 22 09:14:09 <eekee> so um, is it just opie that's (almost) unmaintained, or qtopia too?
May 22 09:14:43 <mattaw> trouble with opie is userbase. Linux pda users v small, %of hackers smaller still. getting better now though, with n800 and others
May 22 09:15:36 <eekee> ahh *nodnodnod*
May 22 09:16:03 <mattaw> People did do one hell of  a good job on opie. the x11 env just allows us to steal other peoples projects to make up for not coding our own
May 22 09:16:12 <deskro> thank you have a URL for the feeds angström
May 22 09:16:49 <deskro> so that I am done one to mirroir local
May 22 09:18:17 <eekee> mattaw: hehe :)
May 22 09:19:04 <eekee> mattaw: I do like X11 for it's flexibility. I can run random old desktop apps and games so long as they have small enough windows
May 22 09:19:41 <mattaw> deskro> They are on the angstrom website
May 22 09:19:52 <deskro> ok mattaw
May 22 09:20:24 <deskro> thank 
May 22 09:22:07 <eekee> hrm Dates can't fund the dbus daemon when not running under GPE
May 22 09:23:26 <eekee> or rather can't connect to it. two instances of dbus-daemon were launched by gpe-dm, Dates tries to launch it's own, and I launched one manually to try it. no go
May 22 09:25:41 <eekee> oh why oh why does trhe feed browser randomly stall and die
May 22 09:29:30 <mattaw> no idea. I am currently plagued by alignment misses in gpe programs. Uncertain of how to fix those
May 22 09:35:15 <eekee> hrm indeed O.o
May 22 09:46:00 <deskro> Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r14 is this well the last version dispo? it there ace not one 2008 some share?
May 22 10:07:24 <mattaw> deskro> That is december 2007, so is quite recent. The development versions are for very experienced users as many things may not work. 
May 22 10:09:10 <deskro> ok
May 22 10:09:14 <deskro> thanks
May 22 11:32:07 * Crofton invests in sofa manufacturer's
May 22 11:36:41 <XorA> :-D
May 22 12:06:50 <Crofton|work> rp, ping
May 22 13:22:30 <eekee> something about angstrom seems to make my spitz's battery not last/charge so well. I don't know if it's apm or zaurusd or what, but it seemed to.. just.. behave better with just the kernel managing (or not managing) the power
May 22 19:39:39 <mimecar> hi
May 22 20:42:46 <eekee> do we have a non-busybox ping?
May 22 20:43:05 <mimecar> i don't know
May 22 20:50:48 <mimecar> hi A__A
May 22 20:51:42 <A__A> hello
May 22 20:53:47 <A__A> mimecar.
May 22 21:18:12 <A__A> Hello, is anyone here??!!!
May 22 21:20:50 <A__A> The decline of the West?
May 22 21:22:27 <summatusmentis> I'm here, sort of
May 22 21:27:00 <A__A> Oh my God!  Someone actually typed something!  summatusmentis, this freaking me out.  None of the channels seem active.  Yet they have hundreds of people logged in.  I haven't used IRC for a couple of years, and it's spooky how things are.  Is this usual?
May 22 21:32:27 <eekee> it's a quiet time of year, I think. Northern summer with it's long warm evenings
May 22 21:32:58 <kario> A__A: /join #oe
May 22 21:34:16 <A__A> Are people logged on permanently then?  There are fifty logged on to angstrom, but very few actually at the screen, yes?
May 22 21:59:40 <A__A> You, you're a butt-fucking quitter.
May 22 22:01:07 <fophillips> What a charming fellow.
May 22 22:01:14 <Crofton> yeah
May 22 22:06:45 <rwhitby> eekee: angstrom has task-proper-tools which is meant to replace all the busybox apps with real one.
May 22 22:18:29 <eekee> rwhitby: ooh that's exactly what I want!
May 23 01:07:36 <ktkd> hi all
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