**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 17 02:59:57 2008
Jun 17 08:14:49 <HRH_H_Crab> ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/blah /etc/localtime should set my timezone on angstrom right?
Jun 17 08:14:55 <HRH_H_Crab> i shouldnt need to reboot or anything?
Jun 17 08:42:27 <king-crash> Hi, i'm searching a way to avoid suspend during several routines in a self written prog.  Is there an proc interface or something else?
Jun 17 08:46:36 <hagisbasheruk> hi king-crash , not got an answer for you , just saying hello here :) and waiting to see a reply to your msg
Jun 17 08:48:07 <king-crash> XD
Jun 17 08:48:16 <king-crash> thx
Jun 17 10:11:59 <StyleWarz> is there any way to provide network access through the cradle of my htc blueangel? otherwise i'm quite bashed because i can't downgrade to WEP for wifi access:s
Jun 17 10:12:23 <StyleWarz> i mean it somehow got eth0 and 1 and some other devices that must somehow be usable ;)
Jun 17 15:18:09 <StyleWarz> Any ideas why my BlueAngel crashes upon suspend (pressing the small button at the top)
Jun 17 16:28:48 * CoreDump is soo.. glad when he gets back home to his DSL downlink...
Jun 17 16:29:17 <hagisbasheruk> :)
Jun 17 16:43:51 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: does your display turn white when you resume?
Jun 17 16:56:28 <StyleWarz> yes
Jun 17 16:56:37 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: yes
Jun 17 16:57:10 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: board id 6. there is no fix for this yet. Disable suspend
Jun 17 16:57:48 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: well won't my battery be empty every 2 hrs? ;)
Jun 17 16:58:10 <dcordes_> check handhelds.org 2.6 branch for blueangel commits to stay uptodate on the isse. a new driver is in the make. sort of.
Jun 17 17:01:11 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: wpa for BA would be quite handy too =)
Jun 17 17:01:12 <dcordes_> issue
Jun 17 17:01:24 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: that's a question for the acx100 project.
Jun 17 17:01:30 <StyleWarz> aah
Jun 17 17:02:07 <StyleWarz> well "last updated: march 27, 2006", seems quite dead
Jun 17 17:02:45 <StyleWarz> ah well http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=741488
Jun 17 17:02:52 <StyleWarz> wpa support
Jun 17 17:04:25 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: cool can you ping me when you tried it on ba?
Jun 17 17:05:05 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: well i started using arngstrom yesterday ;) didn't find the buildroot yet 
Jun 17 17:05:32 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: make the kernel manually. more useful
Jun 17 17:06:19 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: any guide for that? i am not sure how to do crosscompiling for those devices :s
Jun 17 17:07:07 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: yea on hh.org wiki is a nice howto for htcuniversal. just replace universal with blueangel http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel
Jun 17 17:07:20 <dcordes_> damn cvs. I hope we will merge it in linuxtogo soon
Jun 17 17:13:07 <StyleWarz> cvs is so damn slow
Jun 17 17:13:31 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: btw. any ideas how it is about toshiba e800? i've found some stuff from 2005 which had familiar running
Jun 17 17:14:00 <StyleWarz> also found kernel sources
Jun 17 17:14:47 * StyleWarz is just trying to do something useful with his old PDAs
Jun 17 17:15:12 <dcordes_> likely that linux is ported to it PXA263 and wince
Jun 17 17:15:30 <dcordes_> where did you find the info?
Jun 17 17:16:18 <StyleWarz> wait a sec
Jun 17 17:18:06 <StyleWarz> well the kernel seem to be still maintained and modified, but i didn#t find any doc where to place bootloaders and stuff (that bootloaderstuff seems completely different than in angstrom) http://www.mnementh.co.uk/dokuwiki/home:projects:linux:eseries:eseries
Jun 17 17:18:25 <StyleWarz> the last distribution tarball i found for this was made in september of 2005
Jun 17 17:23:10 <StyleWarz> altho with the r17 release of angstrom i've no games, quite no applications and wifi-manager doesn't even open up
Jun 17 17:23:54 <dcordes_> the latest kernel commit was in january 2008
Jun 17 17:24:43 <pH5> ian maintains eseries in the mainline kernel now
Jun 17 17:25:20 <StyleWarz> pH5: so i should be able to create a kernel for angstrom which boots on my e800?
Jun 17 17:27:47 <pH5> StyleWarz: should be possible, though I guess the git repo on mnementh.co.uk is probably more up to date (no idea if all the peripheral drivers are in mainline yet)
Jun 17 17:33:38 <StyleWarz> pH5: well booting a mnementh.co.uk kernel with angstrom should work should be worth a try
Jun 17 17:34:19 <pH5> StyleWarz: I agree.
Jun 17 17:37:39 <StyleWarz> ah one last thing about angstrom: why isn't there a timezone for Europe/Berlin (or at least something in that area)
Jun 17 17:38:25 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: in the gpe clock thingy?
Jun 17 17:38:37 <StyleWarz> yes
Jun 17 17:39:00 <dcordes_> why don't you just pick paris=
Jun 17 17:40:08 <wozza> StyleWarz I think the standard European Time is Warsaw
Jun 17 17:40:33 <StyleWarz> i was just wondering why the list isn't as complete as in other systems ツ
Jun 17 17:41:26 <wozza> does it maintain its own list? I thought it would use the systems locale database
Jun 17 17:41:54 <StyleWarz> that's where i started getting curious ;)
Jun 17 17:42:45 <StyleWarz> should i disable APM as well as auto-sleep? or just auto-sleep?
Jun 17 17:43:36 <StyleWarz> and sometimes my system-bar keeps disappearing :s
Jun 17 17:43:53 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: matchbox-panel? it has a hide function
Jun 17 17:46:25 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: does the "Panel Manager" as well? ;) i can't open it. the zoom effect comes but nothing is opening and i just noticed that my battery status doesn't get shown in System Info :s
Jun 17 17:48:04 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: is it shown when you put apm in console?
Jun 17 17:49:17 <StyleWarz> i can't tell you at the moment, my panel didn't come back yet ;)
Jun 17 17:49:58 <wozza> you should be able to find battery info under /proc 
Jun 17 17:50:36 <StyleWarz> $ cat /proc/apm         
Jun 17 17:50:37 <StyleWarz> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0xff 0xff 0xff -1% -1 ?
Jun 17 17:53:31 <wozza> naah that's probably not it
Jun 17 20:22:01 <StyleWarz> what's the best supported smartphone by now?
Jun 17 20:22:22 <StyleWarz> since i pretty like the openvpn/ipv6/tunneling stuff. this could be more than great if i'm around some foreign networks
Jun 17 20:38:08 <StyleWarz> anyone can riddle me this? http://pastie.org/216789 ;)
Jun 17 20:39:07 <The_Niz> no browser :p
Jun 17 20:39:56 <StyleWarz> that's not my problem :P
Jun 17 20:40:17 <StyleWarz> mine works fine tho :D
Jun 17 20:40:22 <The_Niz> lol
Jun 17 20:40:31 <The_Niz> it's not my problem i can't help you ;)
Jun 17 20:41:48 <StyleWarz> it was more ment like "that wasn't the solution i was looking for" ツ my english gets worse the later the night it is
Jun 17 20:43:00 <The_Niz> hehe okay
Jun 17 20:48:02 <StyleWarz> italians are going crazy here
Jun 17 20:50:30 <The_Niz> dutch too over here :p
Jun 17 20:50:35 <The_Niz> fireworks and all
Jun 17 20:51:15 <StyleWarz> ツ
Jun 17 20:51:37 <StyleWarz> have you built your own kernel for angstrom yet?
Jun 17 20:52:04 <StyleWarz> i'm just getting no such file or directory on the -gcc or whatever is in that bin folder
Jun 17 20:52:17 <StyleWarz> the proof that file finds it was in the pastie tho
Jun 17 20:52:18 <StyleWarz> ツ
Jun 17 20:55:56 <The_Niz> did you set $PATH or however it's called?
Jun 17 20:56:21 <The_Niz> i didn't build for angstrom yet
Jun 17 21:06:58 <StyleWarz> The_Niz: turns out that my kubuntu workstation (amd64) doesn't like i686 binaries.. my gentoo amd64 runs them without a hassle
Jun 17 21:07:18 <The_Niz> ic
Jun 17 21:07:32 <The_Niz> well i just use 32 bits linux
Jun 17 21:07:35 <The_Niz> for now
Jun 17 21:07:44 <The_Niz> so i wouldn't know
Jun 17 21:07:54 <The_Niz> but sounds strange
Jun 17 21:08:33 <StyleWarz> well it's debian based so that's normal things just don't work
Jun 17 21:11:03 <XorA|gone> you do need to install some i686 libs before stuff works on debian based stuff
Jun 17 21:13:10 <StyleWarz> XorA|gone: Debian is never good at any defaults ;) i have an own /etc in my git which i clone into new boxes (if i ever get debian boxes)
Jun 17 21:13:35 <StyleWarz> for that i just love netbsd/freebsd/gentoo defaults, usually you never have to change anything
Jun 17 21:14:43 <StyleWarz> i hope the new acx work nicely ;)
Jun 17 21:20:07 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: already working on it?
Jun 17 21:21:00 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: already compiling the kernel with the new acx drivers
Jun 17 21:21:11 <StyleWarz> already at sound/pcm ;)
Jun 17 21:22:07 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: http://pastie.org/216830
Jun 17 21:22:19 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: are you the DJ=
Jun 17 21:22:22 <dcordes_> ?
Jun 17 21:22:29 <StyleWarz> NO!
Jun 17 21:22:37 <StyleWarz> i took that nickname long before that guy came up
Jun 17 21:22:43 <dcordes_> :D
Jun 17 21:23:15 <StyleWarz> does angstrom use the bluez stack?
Jun 17 21:23:26 <StyleWarz> then it would be just so perfect ;)
Jun 17 21:24:49 <XorA|gone> yes bluez
Jun 17 21:25:01 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: why perfect?
Jun 17 21:25:09 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: bluetooth fuzzing
Jun 17 21:26:40 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: it's so hard to buy new bt devices every week to fuzz them for implementation errors ;)
Jun 17 21:26:49 <StyleWarz> this way i can do it just right in the cafe where i have my cafe ;>
Jun 17 21:27:20 <StyleWarz> s/cafe/coffe/
Jun 17 21:27:48 <The_Niz> :>
Jun 17 21:34:36 <StyleWarz> scp'ing it to the sdcard in the phone. it's really nice that the vfat is booted once the phone is up
Jun 17 21:41:33 <StyleWarz> rebooting ;)
Jun 17 21:41:48 <StyleWarz> any ideas if the gpe wifi manager should sho me any wpa options if they are available?
Jun 17 21:45:21 <StyleWarz> booted so far ;)
Jun 17 21:47:45 <The_Niz> \o
Jun 17 21:48:54 <StyleWarz> hm usb networking doesn't work anymore
Jun 17 21:49:06 <StyleWarz> i get 25502.441701] NETDEV WATCHDOG: usb0: transmit timed out
Jun 17 21:49:15 <StyleWarz> on the host it's connected to
Jun 17 21:53:28 <StyleWarz> anyway, seems like i've build the wrong (old) driver...
Jun 17 21:53:37 <StyleWarz> is there any 2.6.22 kernel for angstrom yet?
Jun 17 21:54:04 <StyleWarz> since the new driver with wpa support needs dscape (mac80211)
Jun 17 21:59:33 <dcordes_> you mean a new kernel for blueangel?
Jun 17 21:59:39 <StyleWarz> yes
Jun 17 22:00:08 <dcordes_> dunno I use hh
Jun 17 22:00:26 <StyleWarz> i just need 2.6.22 instead of .21 for that wpa driver experiment ;)
Jun 17 22:00:32 <StyleWarz> anywhere i can find a -trunk or something?
Jun 17 22:01:02 <dcordes_> try and merge it :)
Jun 17 22:01:35 <StyleWarz> uh
Jun 17 22:04:07 <StyleWarz> how far do i have to merge? ;)
Jun 17 22:09:32 <dcordes_> so far you get "dscape (mac80211)"?
Jun 17 22:14:13 <dcordes_> StyleWarz: maybe ask #htc-linux
Jun 17 22:15:08 <StyleWarz> dcordes_: well i am still looking for a htc kernel that can do that ;)
Jun 17 23:52:01 <StyleWarz> yay
Jun 17 23:52:07 <StyleWarz> toshiba e800 bootes nicely
Jun 17 23:52:13 <StyleWarz> without framebuffer so you see all messages
Jun 17 23:52:22 <StyleWarz> x running too
Jun 17 23:52:33 <StyleWarz> still waiting for gpe to come up with the "new user" screen
Jun 17 23:53:15 <StyleWarz> doesn't seem to get any further than starting x
Jun 17 23:53:32 <StyleWarz> mouse doesn't work too :s i'll give it another try tomorrow
Jun 18 01:28:35 <StyleWarz> ok my e800 booted best with Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r17-h5000 from sd-card. it starts gpe but the touchscreen isn't working
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