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Jun 21 11:16:04 <oliford> Hi
Jun 21 11:16:10 <oliford> I've been working on the kernel support for the iPAQ 21x series, which mostly works now. I've been using an h5000 angstrom image but with my own kernel to test it, and just modifying the scripts where necessary.
Jun 21 11:16:13 <oliford> What do I actually need to do to give it's image etc under angstrom (and how much time/effort will it actually take)?
Jun 21 11:16:48 <oliford> *give it it's own image...
Jun 21 11:48:28 <veryevil12345> Hi
Jun 21 11:49:35 <veryevil12345> !logs
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Jun 21 11:50:24 <veryevil12345> Anyone offer a little help?
Jun 21 11:51:18 <veryevil12345> Hello?
Jun 21 11:54:55 <pH5> veryevil12345: you must be new here :)
Jun 21 11:55:02 <pH5> it usually helps your case to actually state what your problem is.
Jun 21 11:55:03 <veryevil54321> yep
Jun 21 11:55:07 <pH5> and be patient, sometimes people answer questions after hours when they get back to the keyboard.
Jun 21 11:55:19 <veryevil54321> sorry
Jun 21 11:55:48 <veryevil54321> im trying to get angstrom on my ipaq 3950 but its proving most difficult
Jun 21 11:55:55 <pH5> np, just trying to make sure you won't be too disappointed by the silence :)
Jun 21 11:57:45 <veryevil54321> I want to flash angstrom to my ipaq 3950 but alls i can find is the bootloader exe and the image file that is 80meg which is greater than then memory of the 3950
Jun 21 11:59:04 <pH5> 80meg?
Jun 21 11:59:15 <pH5> I guess you probably could boot from SD.
Jun 21 11:59:31 <pH5> but the images I see here: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/h3900/ are only 21M
Jun 21 11:59:52 <veryevil54321> Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-h3900.rootfs.img.bz2 which is 17meg im told to unpack which gives me a 80meg img file
Jun 21 12:00:14 <veryevil54321> following http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/WinCeQuickInstall
Jun 21 12:01:13 <pH5> oh, ok. you'll need to boot from SD then.
Jun 21 12:02:15 <veryevil54321> there might be a problem there as everytime i put an SD card in the screen fades to white as though its crashed i think that there is something wrong with the SD card controller?
Jun 21 12:03:34 <pH5> in wince? :/ that's bad.
Jun 21 12:03:52 <veryevil54321> yep in wince and in familiar
Jun 21 12:04:38 <veryevil54321> have checked it with a multimeter there is no voltage on the control pins until a card is mounted then it just dies
Jun 21 12:05:38 <udovdh> I get a white screen on halt/reboot on H2210
Jun 21 12:05:41 <veryevil54321> it gets the 3v for a short time but i really dont know why it wont work. plus there isnt any thing that looks wrong with it and no info on the net
Jun 21 12:05:48 <udovdh> and the ipa hangs I guess
Jun 21 12:05:58 <udovdh> have to remove battery etc for w hile to be able to restart
Jun 21 12:06:05 <udovdh> ipa -> ipaq
Jun 21 12:06:11 <veryevil54321> using the reset works fine for me
Jun 21 12:06:17 <udovdh> not for me.
Jun 21 12:06:21 <udovdh> blue/orange led
Jun 21 12:06:24 <udovdh> no bootup
Jun 21 12:06:38 <udovdh> made a bug entry for it
Jun 21 12:06:39 <veryevil54321> i really have no idea why it does its strange
Jun 21 12:07:04 <veryevil54321> thing is it must be hardware fault as it happens in winCE too
Jun 21 12:07:59 <veryevil54321> is there not a way to install it using ymodem like familiar?
Jun 21 12:08:49 <pH5> veryevil54321: I agree, looks like a hardware problem.
Jun 21 12:08:52 <pH5> in theory it should be possible to install it to flash exactly the same way as familiar, but I have absolutely no experience with that.
Jun 21 12:10:20 <veryevil54321> i dont think the jff2s files can be booted from the same boot loader as familiar. i think it can be flashed but not booted properly
Jun 21 12:10:45 <pH5> by playing with the mmc driver in the linux kernel you could check whether it's a fault in the card detect circuitry, mmc controller or the actual sd power supply, but I guess that won't be worth the effort if you can't do anything about it in the end.
Jun 21 12:11:36 <pH5> hm. have there been changes in the jffs2 on-disk format?
Jun 21 12:12:00 <veryevil54321> i dont know
Jun 21 12:13:18 <veryevil54321> just gonna re install the arm bootloader 
Jun 21 12:13:56 <pH5> what is h3900 using? bootldr?
Jun 21 12:15:36 <veryevil54321> yeah
Jun 21 12:15:44 <veryevil54321> bootldr-pxa-2.21.12
Jun 21 12:16:37 <veryevil54321> just sending the base image via ymodem now
Jun 21 12:18:38 <pH5> because I used (the SDG hacked) bootldr on hx4700 to boot angstrom, but I just remember that it has the kernel in a separate partition and doesn't read the jffs2 in the bootloader at all.
Jun 21 12:30:31 <veryevil54321> so whats that mean?
Jun 21 12:32:16 <veryevil54321> its installed but when ever i boot i just get a white screen
Jun 21 12:36:17 <veryevil54321> how do i view the boot text?
Jun 21 12:45:51 <pH5> veryevil54321: rs232?
Jun 21 12:46:01 <pH5> my ipaq outputs boot messages over the serial console
Jun 21 12:46:51 <veryevil54321> yeah got it just had to change my linuxargs command
Jun 21 12:47:03 <veryevil54321> it crashes still
Jun 21 12:47:14 <veryevil54321> but it gets further 
Jun 21 12:47:43 <veryevil54321> well it gets to the same place but the linuxargs were wrong so the serial console stopped
Jun 21 12:49:11 <veryevil54321> it crashes after it loads the sd card 
Jun 21 12:49:16 <veryevil54321> module
Jun 21 12:49:32 <veryevil54321> [    0.960000] asic3_mmc: ASIC3 MMC/SD Driver, controller at 0x14000000
Jun 21 12:49:39 <veryevil54321> [    0.970000] h3900_mmc: clock enabled
Jun 21 12:49:45 <veryevil54321> then white screen
Jun 21 12:54:30 <pH5> even without an sd card plugged in? kernel recompile time, then.
Jun 21 12:56:41 <veryevil54321> yep
Jun 21 12:57:02 <veryevil54321> can i not append anything to the kernel args to stop it using mmc?
Jun 21 12:59:10 <pH5> could be possible, I don't know how.
Jun 21 12:59:50 <veryevil54321> do you know how i can save the linunxargs as default as it restores to default on reset?
Jun 21 13:04:38 <pH5> no idea, sorry. my current boot method is haret + initramfs because neither sd nor cf work on 2.6.26 yet.
Jun 21 15:17:13 <udovdh> hello
Jun 21 15:17:23 <udovdh> anybody here knows a method to slightly overclock my H2210?
Jun 21 15:17:31 <udovdh> kernel patch? tool?
Jun 21 15:22:02 <hagisbasheruk> XCPUScalar 
Jun 21 15:23:05 <hagisbasheruk> then run haret or whatever bootloader udovdh 
Jun 21 15:23:28 <udovdh> XCPUscalar?
Jun 21 15:23:32 <udovdh> is that a linux tool?
Jun 21 15:23:47 <udovdh> I run linux via LAB on the H2210
Jun 21 15:26:15 <hagisbasheruk> nope its wince tool 
Jun 21 15:26:44 <hagisbasheruk> i have no idea what lab is udovdh 
Jun 21 15:27:11 <hagisbasheruk> bootloader to boot linux from wince ?
Jun 21 15:27:36 <udovdh> nope
Jun 21 15:27:49 <udovdh> http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH2200LAB
Jun 21 15:28:03 <udovdh> tweaked kernel in my words to load the actual kernel
Jun 21 15:28:48 <hagisbasheruk> nice ;)
Jun 21 15:30:09 <hagisbasheruk> there should be a way to overclock via kernel 
Jun 21 15:44:27 <pH5> udovdh: look at cpu-pxa.c, there's a frequency table for pxa25x in there. you'd have to add the overclocking frequency points in there.
Jun 21 15:44:46 <udovdh> in the kernel source you mean?
Jun 21 15:44:54 <udovdh> thanks, will have a look
Jun 21 15:45:02 <pH5> yes, cpu-pxa is the cpufreq driver for pxa25x/27x
Jun 21 15:45:12 <pH5> it's in arch/arm/mach-pxa
Jun 21 15:45:23 <udovdh> nices would be to scale with cpu-freq or what it's called
Jun 21 15:45:24 <udovdh> thanks
Jun 21 16:10:25 <udovdh> hmm.. now for the right values for in cpu-pxa.c for the overclock...
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