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Sep 28 04:20:17 <hackjoe> i am having trouble getting the libertas modules to build for spitz
Sep 28 04:20:58 <hackjoe> i have added the config lines to the defconfig-spitz and ran the bitbake but still no modules
Sep 28 07:45:10 <telexl> !logs
Sep 28 07:45:11 <cdbot2> Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at:
Sep 28 07:45:12 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom
Sep 28 07:45:13 <cdbot2> Live-logs are available at
Sep 28 07:45:14 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog
Sep 28 07:45:16 <cdbot2> See ?? help-logs for usage instructions
Sep 28 07:47:24 <telexl> ?? help-logs
Sep 28 07:47:26 <cdbot2> help-logs[1]: Available commands are: !logs !pauselog <MINUTES> !logstatus 
Sep 28 07:47:27 <cdbot2> help-logs[2]: !enablelog, !disablelog 
Sep 28 07:47:28 <cdbot2> help-logs[3]: !stamp (Add timestamp to channel logfile) 
Sep 28 12:51:24 <szymon_g> hi
Sep 28 12:52:07 <szymon_g> ekhn, haw angstrom works on jornada 720 :?
Sep 28 12:52:24 <bluelightning> szymon_g: no support currently AFAIK, but I'm sure it could be made to
Sep 28 12:52:35 <szymon_g> :~
Sep 28 12:53:04 <bluelightning> perhaps you could try to track down some of the people who used to work on Jornada 720 support in familiar and see if they are able to help
Sep 28 19:49:12 <lehm> !logs
Sep 28 19:49:13 <cdbot2> Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at:
Sep 28 19:49:14 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom
Sep 28 19:49:15 <cdbot2> Live-logs are available at
Sep 28 19:49:17 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog
Sep 28 19:49:19 <cdbot2> See ?? help-logs for usage instructions
Sep 28 21:01:47 <A__A> Hello?
Sep 28 21:03:25 <bluelightning> A__A: hello
Sep 28 21:05:39 <A__A> Ah!  bluelightning.  Is angstrom and the Zaurus still going strong then?
Sep 28 21:05:50 <bluelightning> A__A: yes :)
Sep 28 21:05:59 <bluelightning> I have Angstrom running on my Z next to me right now
Sep 28 21:06:11 <bluelightning> (spitz / SL-C3000)
Sep 28 21:06:16 <johnx> I just flashed a test image to my akita the other minute :)
Sep 28 21:06:58 <johnx> 2.6.26 / angstrom console image
Sep 28 21:09:41 <A__A> I have a Zaurus SL-C3200 I got from Ebay this summer but I've found it difficult to use, a bit disappointed in the Sharp OS.  I just want a replacement for my old Psion Revo that I retired this year (after 12 years).  Would Angstrom be useable by me, a mere PDA user?
Sep 28 21:10:37 <johnx> errr...hmm
Sep 28 21:11:01 <bluelightning> it should be
Sep 28 21:11:11 <johnx> it depends on what you want to do
Sep 28 21:11:39 <A__A> The terminal app spits graphical zits on it's screen all the time.  After a while this is becomes depressing.
Sep 28 21:12:22 <johnx> hmm?
Sep 28 21:12:35 <johnx> graphical zits?
Sep 28 21:12:51 <johnx> what are you trying to do and what's happening?
Sep 28 21:12:52 <mimecar> hi
Sep 28 21:13:04 <johnx> hi mimecar 
Sep 28 21:13:27 <mimecar> hey johnx, how are you ?
Sep 28 21:13:34 <johnx> pretty good
Sep 28 21:13:36 <johnx> and you?
Sep 28 21:13:40 <mimecar> that's good
Sep 28 21:13:51 <mimecar> me to, cleaning my room :P
Sep 28 21:14:57 <A__A> Meaning that qkonsole (Terminal) has a bug in displaying that causes crap to appear on the screen.  You have to resize or change the font to force qkonsole to redraw.  It gets depressing being graphically reminded how sloppy the Sharp distro is.
Sep 28 21:15:34 <johnx> ah, ok. I think there are other terminals available
Sep 28 21:15:51 <mimecar> johnx: on original zaurus rom ?
Sep 28 21:16:09 <johnx> mimecar, I *thought* there were
Sep 28 21:16:16 <johnx> it's been a long time though...
Sep 28 21:16:46 <mimecar> there're options with opie
Sep 28 21:17:02 <mimecar> but i don't remember good console apps for sharp rom
Sep 28 21:17:11 <A__A> johnx, How do I find out about alternatives?  screenshots I mean.
Sep 28 21:17:31 * johnx raids long term memory
Sep 28 21:17:54 <mimecar> A__A: http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/
Sep 28 21:18:02 <mimecar> check on that web
Sep 28 21:18:31 <johnx> yeah, that's what I was trying to think of :)
Sep 28 21:19:04 <bluelightning> somewhat ancient though that site
Sep 28 21:19:22 <bluelightning> not that there's a better replacement though
Sep 28 21:19:24 <mimecar> if you want find software related with sharp rom..
Sep 28 21:19:26 <johnx> if all you want is functionality ancient isn't necessarily bad
Sep 28 21:19:46 * johnx plays with his bleeding edge software...
Sep 28 21:24:40 <A__A> mimecar, WORKING.
Sep 28 21:25:28 <mimecar> one of the programs ?
Sep 28 21:42:12 <mimecar> A__A: ?
Sep 28 21:44:06 <A__A> 4 options.  1) ZConsole (website gone), 2) Embeddedkonsole (website corporatized, gone), 3) qkonsole (qkonsole_0.9.3-20040205_arm.ipk), 4) "Zaurus Terminal" ("qpe-terminal_1.5.0-2_arm.ipk")
Sep 28 21:44:43 <A__A> still W-O-R-K-I-N-G...
Sep 28 21:45:37 <mimecar> what's your zaurus model ?
Sep 28 21:46:59 <A__A> SL-C3200. I believe, or maybe I misunderestimate, that qpe-terminal is what I already have.  So, qkonsole...
Sep 28 21:47:30 <mimecar> you can use openzaurus for your zaurus
Sep 28 21:47:38 <mimecar> it's better than original rom
Sep 28 21:48:06 <mimecar> inded, you can backup your rom and restore it if OZ / angstrom don't like you
Sep 28 21:49:48 <A__A> mimecar: OpenZaurus.  Are you saying "OpenZaurus" is not the same as OZ/Angstrom?
Sep 28 21:50:11 <mimecar> angstrom is the "next" version of OZ
Sep 28 21:50:35 <mimecar> programs you run on OZ should run on angstrom
Sep 28 21:50:49 <mimecar> Sharp ROM => OpenZaurus => ÄNgström
Sep 28 21:52:02 <A__A> So I should look to OpenZaurus or to Ängström?
Sep 28 21:52:22 <mimecar> yes
Sep 28 21:52:41 <mimecar> openzaurus is not maintened
Sep 28 21:52:48 <mimecar> then your option is use angstrom
Sep 28 21:55:46 <A__A> Ah.  My Sharp distro buggy "terminal" application is _already_ qkonsole.
Sep 28 21:55:58 <mimecar> xD
Sep 28 21:56:08 <A__A> xD?
Sep 28 21:56:24 <mimecar> it's similar to a smile
Sep 28 21:59:02 <mimecar> i must go out
Sep 28 21:59:05 <mimecar> night all
Sep 28 21:59:15 <A__A> Wait!  OK.  mimecar, where can I look at Ängström screenshots and introduction?
Sep 28 22:01:17 <A__A> Before global stability unravels and every nation is a third world nation, I mean.
Sep 28 22:05:01 <A__A> Anyone else want to sell me on Ängström?
Sep 28 22:07:05 <A__A> Aha!  It's spelt "Ångström", (http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/)
Sep 28 22:09:43 <A__A> No one?  Well, goodnight then and have a pleasant Meltdown Monday.
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