**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 29 02:59:57 2008
Sep 29 09:07:22 <tchor2> I just installed Angstrom on Zaurus SL-5500 (collie), I used altboot and "console" image on SD card, both unstable version 2007.12-r18
Sep 29 09:08:05 <tchor2> the problem is, I am not able to find gpe-pim packages for this architecture (armv4l)
Sep 29 09:10:06 <tchor2> what can you recommend me? waiting? going to learn how to compile it?
Sep 29 09:13:32 <tchor2> and if I spend hours trying to figure how to compile it and succeed, what's the right way to allow others to use them?
Sep 29 09:15:29 <tchor2> what is needed to be done in order that there are gpe-pim packages for collie in Angstrom repository?
Sep 29 11:24:56 <annoyingspore> i tried and couldnt even get angstrom to work on sl-5500
Sep 29 11:29:28 <johnx_> annoyingspore, not surprising. The 5500 isn't well supported these days by anything
Sep 29 11:30:19 <annoyingspore> i almost got openzaurus gpe to work
Sep 29 11:30:50 <annoyingspore> but it keeps acting like its bricked
Sep 29 11:31:22 <annoyingspore> until i attempt a re-install 1-2x
Sep 29 11:31:30 <johnx_> odd
Sep 29 11:36:39 <tchor2> well, so far Angstrom seems to run on collie well
Sep 29 11:37:10 <tchor2> i have not tried audio (it said to not be supported), but I do not need it
Sep 29 11:37:25 <tchor2> I would like to use gpe-pim applications
Sep 29 11:38:26 <johnx_> tchor2, what kernel version are you sing?
Sep 29 11:38:33 <johnx_> and is sd working for you?
Sep 29 11:39:13 <tchor2> sd seems to work
Sep 29 11:39:29 <tchor2> it runs only for a day or so
Sep 29 11:39:46 <tchor2> root@collie:~$ uname -a
Sep 29 11:39:48 <tchor2> Linux collie 2.6.20.6 #1 PREEMPT Mon Aug 4 06:35:37 CEST 2008 armv4l unknown unknown GNU/Linux
Sep 29 11:39:54 <johnx_> ah, ok, the older one
Sep 29 11:40:18 <johnx_> I tried root on sd but that didn't go over so well
Sep 29 11:40:38 <tchor2> i am using altboot and root on sd
Sep 29 11:40:44 <tchor2> it works for me
Sep 29 11:41:03 <johnx_> iiiinteresting
Sep 29 11:41:17 <johnx_> I'll try a build again :)
Sep 29 11:41:53 <tchor2> I have not build it myself, I have just downloaded autobuild images
Sep 29 16:14:41 <hackjoe> i am having trouble building the libertas drivers for spitz. i have added the config lines to the defconfig. ran bitbake fine but still no libertas modules. any suggestions?
Sep 29 16:15:32 <johnx_> hackjoe, can you cd into the build directory and see if they're compiled?
Sep 29 16:15:43 <hackjoe> did and not there
Sep 29 16:16:04 <johnx_> and the defconfig that's in the build directory lists them?
Sep 29 16:16:16 <johnx_> what about the compile logs?
Sep 29 16:16:45 <hackjoe> there is no defconfig in the build directory
Sep 29 16:16:55 <hackjoe> and where are the logs?
Sep 29 16:17:18 <johnx_> temp at the same level as the build directory
Sep 29 16:17:25 <hackjoe> # CONFIG_LIBERTAS is not set
Sep 29 16:17:25 <hackjoe> CONFIG_LIBERTAS=m
Sep 29 16:17:25 <hackjoe> CONFIG_LIBERTAS_CS=m
Sep 29 16:17:25 <hackjoe> CONFIG_HERMES=m
Sep 29 16:17:39 <hackjoe> from /OE/org.openembedded.stable/packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.24/defconfig-spitz
Sep 29 16:17:58 <johnx_> maybe not defconfig...what about .config in the build dir?
Sep 29 16:20:07 <hackjoe> only have a .config in work and no libertas set in it
Sep 29 16:20:18 <johnx_> well, there's a start
Sep 29 16:20:34 <johnx_> and in the foo_compile.log in ../temp does it mention anything?
Sep 29 16:21:13 <hackjoe> no compile.log
Sep 29 16:21:35 <johnx_> it has compile in the name
Sep 29 16:22:44 <johnx_> log.do_compile.12345
Sep 29 16:22:46 <johnx_> something like that
Sep 29 16:22:59 <hackjoe> looking for it
Sep 29 16:25:09 <hackjoe>  k, found it but no libertas in there either
Sep 29 16:25:49 <johnx_> right, so you need to make sure you modified the defconfig for the right device and for exactly the right kernel version
Sep 29 16:26:19 <hackjoe> running the latest stable 
Sep 29 16:26:21 <johnx_> is the change in the defconfig-foo that's one level above the build directory?
Sep 29 16:26:37 <hackjoe> used this defconfig /OE/org.openembedded.stable/packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.24/defconfig-spitz
Sep 29 16:27:26 <hackjoe> it has it set in the work defconfig /OE/angstrom-stable/work/spitz-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-rp-2.6.24-r9/defconfig-spitz
Sep 29 16:28:13 <hackjoe> and those are the only defconfigs i have for the 2.6.24 kernel
Sep 29 16:30:05 <johnx_> hmmm
Sep 29 16:30:19 <johnx_> and you're sure it totally rebuilt the kernel after you made the change?
Sep 29 16:30:59 <hackjoe> bitbake linux
Sep 29 16:31:13 <johnx_> had you already compile the kernel before that?
Sep 29 16:31:15 <hackjoe> i have a zImage and modules
Sep 29 16:31:28 <hackjoe> first try was a base image
Sep 29 16:31:32 <hackjoe> next try was linux
Sep 29 16:32:04 <johnx_> bitbake base-image -> change defconfig -> bitbake linux
Sep 29 16:32:06 <johnx_> is that right?
Sep 29 16:32:21 <hackjoe> no change defconfig, base, linux
Sep 29 16:33:03 <johnx_> so the first time you built the kernel was after changing the defconfig
Sep 29 16:33:27 <hackjoe> yes
Sep 29 16:34:12 <johnx_> hmmm
Sep 29 16:34:35 <hackjoe> ya, i am a bit confused as well
Sep 29 16:34:56 <johnx_> bitbake linux is different than bitbake linux-rp
Sep 29 16:35:01 <johnx_> that's all I can think of
Sep 29 16:35:09 <hackjoe> i suspect there is something that i have missed but i have not really used bitbake before
Sep 29 16:35:22 <johnx_> I think it might not have actually rebuilt
Sep 29 16:35:57 <johnx_> I've tweaked the defconfig in the past without much pain, IIRC
Sep 29 16:36:35 <hackjoe>  bitbake linux-rp 
Sep 29 16:36:46 <hackjoe> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 305 tasks of which 305 didn't need to be rerun and 0 failed.
Sep 29 16:36:47 <hackjoe> NOTE: build 200809291034: completed
Sep 29 16:37:09 <johnx_> you can bump the release number in the .bb file or do bitbake -c clean linux-rp first
Sep 29 16:53:47 <hackjoe> same thing after a clean
Sep 29 16:53:51 <hackjoe> NOTE: package linux-rp-2.6.24: completed
Sep 29 16:53:51 <hackjoe> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 305 tasks of which 291 didn't need to be rerun and 0 failed.
Sep 29 16:53:51 <hackjoe> NOTE: build 200809291037: completed
Sep 29 16:54:20 <hackjoe> but no libertas modules
Sep 29 16:55:28 <johnx_> interesting. I just enabled fuse fs with no problem in defconfig-akita
Sep 29 16:56:08 <hackjoe> the libertas source files are there
Sep 29 16:58:11 <johnx_> well, let me try to build it here, just for fun
Sep 29 16:58:16 <johnx_> BTW, what does libertas do?
Sep 29 16:58:33 <hackjoe> marvell wireless driver
Sep 29 16:58:38 <johnx_> ah, right
Sep 29 16:58:42 <johnx_> I should have guessed
Sep 29 16:59:08 <hackjoe> http://www.sparklan.com/product_details.php?prod_id=21
Sep 29 16:59:26 <hackjoe> works in openbsd on the zaurus minus the wpa stuff
Sep 29 17:00:59 <hackjoe> lunch time for me. thanks for the help
Sep 29 17:01:05 <johnx_> ah, sure
Sep 29 17:01:11 <johnx_> I'll tell you if it works here
Sep 29 17:01:24 <hackjoe> ty
Sep 29 17:02:02 <hackjoe> it is in the feeds for a few systems (collie, simpad) but not spitz
Sep 29 17:02:27 <johnx_> attemping to build for akita right now
Sep 29 17:03:18 <johnx_> yeah, it's building libertas
Sep 29 17:06:18 <johnx_> I modified the defconfig-akita for 2.6.26, bumped PR to r4 in linux-rp_2.6.26.bb and explicitly ran bitbake linux-rp-2.6.26
Sep 29 17:27:37 <hackjoe> ok, i bumped my to r10 and rebuilding
Sep 29 17:27:43 <hackjoe> did you do a clean first?
Sep 29 17:29:22 <johnx_> nope
Sep 29 17:29:31 <johnx_> if you bump it it builds in a separate directory
Sep 29 17:29:57 <hackjoe> k
Sep 29 17:37:30 <hackjoe> got a few of these a QA error occured but will not be logged because QA_LOG is not set
Sep 29 17:38:19 <johnx_> just grep log.do-compile for libertas. QA errors usually aren't a problem
Sep 29 17:39:07 <hackjoe> a lot different output in the console. i suspect it was just telling me it was doing it
Sep 29 17:45:03 <hackjoe> same, no libertas modules
Sep 29 17:46:11 <johnx_> you've probably checked this, but are you positive you're building for spitz in your local.conf?
Sep 29 17:47:11 <hackjoe> Packaged contents of kernel-module-nls-cp862 into /OE/angstrom-stable//deploy/glibc/ipk/spitz/kernel-module-nls-cp862_2.6.24-r10_spitz.ipk
Sep 29 17:47:34 <johnx_> fair enough
Sep 29 17:50:51 <johnx_> so no mention of libertas in the whole compile log?
Sep 29 17:50:57 <hackjoe> nothing
Sep 29 17:51:11 <johnx_> that's so odd
Sep 29 17:51:11 <hackjoe> hostap is in there, orinoco but no libertas
Sep 29 17:51:22 <hackjoe> k, at least i know i am not going insane
Sep 29 17:51:24 <johnx_> I used the same lines you gave me and put them in defconfig-akita
Sep 29 17:51:36 <johnx_> well, I'm not the most experienced OE user...
Sep 29 17:51:42 <johnx_> you might want to try #oe
Sep 29 17:52:16 <hackjoe> there must be something funky with my build enviroment 
Sep 29 17:54:43 <johnx_> ah, ok
Sep 29 17:55:10 <johnx_> in temp, grep for LIBERTAS in log.do_configure.1234
Sep 29 17:56:17 <hackjoe> i took the distro line out of my local.conf and an doing a rebuild
Sep 29 17:56:25 <johnx_> hmm
Sep 29 17:56:48 <johnx_> I really don't think that's related, but it's your call
Sep 29 17:57:36 <hackjoe> does not run without it anyways
Sep 29 17:57:46 <johnx_> I thought it wouldn't
Sep 29 17:58:13 <johnx_> the log.do_configure.12345 file should mention LIBERTAS even if it's not enabled, so it would be interesting to see what it says
Sep 29 17:58:21 <hackjoe> i did, it is not there
Sep 29 18:00:05 <hackjoe> where is your defconfig at?
Sep 29 18:00:27 <johnx_> what directory?
Sep 29 18:01:09 <johnx_> /home/john/projects/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.26/defconfig-akita
Sep 29 18:03:19 <hackjoe> well damn
Sep 29 18:03:32 <hackjoe> maybe i will pull .dev and try that
Sep 29 18:03:53 <johnx_> an interesting thought...are you positive libertas is in 2.6.24?
Sep 29 18:04:10 <hackjoe> the source files are there
Sep 29 18:04:53 <hackjoe> here /OE/angstrom-stable/work/spitz-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-rp-2.6.24-r10/linux-2.6.24/drivers/net/wireless/libertas/decl.h
Sep 29 18:11:26 <hackjoe> same thing. it is not pulling in the defconfig for some reason. 
Sep 29 18:11:44 <hackjoe> i am going to try it with .dev
Sep 29 18:12:16 <johnx_> hackjoe, the libertas usb code is in 2.6.23 but I think the libertas_cs code might not be there
Sep 29 18:12:20 <johnx_> want to try something?
Sep 29 18:12:41 <hackjoe> sure, i am flopping around like a fish out of water
Sep 29 18:13:05 <johnx_> in your build directory, cd net/wireless/libertas
Sep 29 18:13:16 <johnx_> ls if_cs.c
Sep 29 18:13:22 <hackjoe> i am in the process of pulling dev which should be 2.6.26
Sep 29 18:13:45 <johnx_> I think that would work too, since it works for me
Sep 29 18:27:27 <hackjoe>  bitbake linux-rp-2.6.26
Sep 29 18:27:31 <hackjoe> gets me this
Sep 29 18:27:38 <Verty> hi guys, any chance of getting Arngstrom running on a Collie? (seems OZ mirror is down so no use trying that anymore :()
Sep 29 18:27:39 <hackjoe> ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'linux-rp-2.6.26' (but '[]' DEPENDS on or otherwise requires it)
Sep 29 18:28:54 <johnx_> Verty, I've heard someone had a small amount of success with it. no sound though. search on the angstrom-distribution.org wiki
Sep 29 18:29:23 <johnx_> hackjoe, did you tweak your local.conf to build angstrom-2008.1 ?
Sep 29 18:30:01 <Verty> johnx_: basically states collie isn't supported :) I did find some images though but can't figure out what is what
Sep 29 18:30:52 <hackjoe> johnx_: just did it
Sep 29 18:38:08 <tchor2> Verty: I have yesterday installed Angstrom on collie
Sep 29 18:38:22 <Verty> cool :)
Sep 29 18:38:33 <tchor2> Verty: altboot-console image in flash and console image on SD card
Sep 29 18:38:53 <tchor2> Verty: as far as I know, the sound still does not work
Sep 29 18:39:23 <tchor2> Verty: and at the moment, the gpe-pim packages are not compiled for collie in the Angstrom distribution (don't know why)
Sep 29 18:39:34 <johnx_> here's the list of known issues for it: http://bugs.openembedded.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=2148&hide_resolved=1
Sep 29 18:39:43 <tchor2> Verty: I tried installing Opie and that seems more supported
Sep 29 18:40:45 <Verty> alrighty... time to trash my collie again :)
Sep 29 18:40:52 <Verty> you got the images from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/collie/? 
Sep 29 18:41:35 <tchor2> Verty: yes, I used the last ones, date 04-August
Sep 29 18:41:43 <johnx_> tchor2, aaah...I see the new 2.6.20 kernel compiled in august. I missed that
Sep 29 18:42:37 <Verty> this seems more fruitfull then trying to get poky compiled :)
Sep 29 18:42:58 <johnx_> hackjoe, having better luck?
Sep 29 18:43:26 <hackjoe> johnx, LOL. sorta, still trying to get all my conf files to point at .dev
Sep 29 18:44:01 <hackjoe> johnx, keeps trying to do 2.6.24
Sep 29 18:44:22 <johnx_> bitbake linux-rp-2.6.26
Sep 29 18:44:32 <johnx_> that should do it
Sep 29 18:44:47 <hackjoe> ya that would fail. linux-rp would do .24
Sep 29 18:46:05 <hackjoe> just changed the source-me.txt to point at .dev and it is taking longer now
Sep 29 18:48:00 <Verty> tchor2: does it support 2GB sd?
Sep 29 18:49:37 <tchor2> Verty: sorry, I have tried with 512 Mb
Sep 29 18:49:55 <johnx_> hackjoe, I'm gonna get some sleep. I wish you the best of luck.
Sep 29 18:50:07 <hackjoe> thanks for all your help
Sep 29 18:50:21 <Verty> well know in a few minutes :)
Sep 29 19:00:20 <Verty> insmod fails :(
Sep 29 19:02:11 <Verty> modprobing the mmc_block does work... but it's isn't finding anything 
Sep 29 19:05:44 <tchor2> Verty: aah, I remember, it wasn't straitforward in my case, I used some tips from http://www.purple.dropbear.id.au/angstrom_pre_release_on_collie_sl-5500_with_sd_card
Sep 29 19:06:15 <tchor2> Verty: I modprobed locomo_spi, mmc_block and mmc_spi
Sep 29 19:06:30 <tchor2> Verty: and later ucb1x00_ts
Sep 29 19:08:25 <thesing> is angstrom on collie the topic?
Sep 29 19:08:34 <Verty> indeed :)
Sep 29 19:08:46 <Verty> tchor2: seems to be doing a lot more now.... not all but more :)
Sep 29 19:09:32 <thesing> about current release or snapshot?
Sep 29 19:10:17 <thesing> I do the collie stuff in oe so feel free to ask.
Sep 29 19:10:26 <tchor2> Verty: I actually put the modprobes in the scripts as is adviced in the link...don't know if it can help
Sep 29 19:13:34 <tchor2> thesing: I got one collie from a friend on Friday and I installed autobuild images from August yesterday altboot image + console image on SD card
Sep 29 19:14:01 <tchor2> thesing: aside from the known bugs, everythings seems to work, so I am happy :-)
Sep 29 19:14:11 <Verty> tchor2: well it seems to try and boot from SD and then I made a booboo I guess :)
Sep 29 19:16:00 <tchor2> thesing: the only problem is, that gpe-pim applications seems to not be compiled for the angstrom collie at the moment, so I have to figure out how to get them/compile them
Sep 29 19:17:33 <thesing> does X11 work with those images?
Sep 29 19:18:36 <tchor2> thesing: yes, it works, I can log into GPE
Sep 29 19:20:13 <thesing> didn't know that. At the current kernel touchscreen is broken so.
Sep 29 19:20:35 <thesing> so no X
Sep 29 19:21:44 <thesing> But If somebody wants to try a console-image: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~thesing/ 
Sep 29 19:23:12 <thesing> flash the zImage and untar the tgz to an ext2 formated card (sd or cf)  and boot. (maybe you'll need to flash initrd.bin too, but only if bootmenu doesn't show)
Sep 29 19:24:20 <tchor2> thesing: would it work without flashing if I have already altboot image in the flash?
Sep 29 19:26:35 <thesing> should. you only need to flash the zImage. If you put you old zImage in flash (/boot/zImage) you should be able to boot it from the bootmenu
Sep 29 19:41:36 <Verty> I seem to be having problems with mounting the SD card... /dev/mmcblk0p1 doesn't exist... and mmcda doesn't work
Sep 29 19:44:05 <thesing> Verty: the autobuild images?
Sep 29 19:44:14 <Verty> yupz
Sep 29 19:45:11 <Verty> better chance with your images?
Sep 29 19:45:37 <thesing> if you have mmc-spi, locomo-spi and mmc-block modules loaded and the device doesn't show up your card doesn't work. 
Sep 29 19:46:14 <thesing> the driver in the new images is much better. So you could give it a try.
Sep 29 19:48:39 <Verty> it's a 2GB card... I know there were problems in the past with that
Sep 29 19:49:27 <thesing> 2 GB should be ok. SDHC cards don't work atm.
Sep 29 19:50:04 <thesing> but collie is capable of using them and even SDIO (physically)
Sep 29 19:52:00 <Verty> I've used the sd card an hour ago on OZ with the hacked sd module... so it should work
Sep 29 19:53:51 <thesing> Yes. Please try. I think that the new driver is at least as good as the binary driver.
Sep 29 19:54:23 <Verty> alrighty... there goes flash #8745979345 of today :)
Sep 29 20:00:58 <Verty> anyway to break out of the menu? (only shows the mtdblock image
Sep 29 20:01:33 <thesing> no. 
Sep 29 20:01:50 <Tomoe> Verty: HOW DID YOU GUESS MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER??
Sep 29 20:01:56 <thesing> do you have the sd-card ext2 formated?
Sep 29 20:02:29 <Verty> Tomoe: it appeared on my collie :)
Sep 29 20:02:50 <Verty> thesing: yupz, it also holds a swap partition though
Sep 29 20:04:00 <thesing> is the data partition the first one?
Sep 29 20:04:06 <Verty> modprobe is complaining about modules.dep
Sep 29 20:04:12 <Verty> yep
Sep 29 20:05:20 <thesing> its because flash is ro. images from flash are not really usable.
Sep 29 20:06:02 <Verty> so it does all before the menu pops up?
Sep 29 20:06:20 <thesing> yes
Sep 29 20:06:30 <thesing> do you have a serial cable?
Sep 29 20:06:40 <Verty> I can see some stuff about probing mmcblock etc... but I can't make out what it is
Sep 29 20:06:55 <Verty> usb is connected I think
Sep 29 20:07:47 * Verty creates a nice new full-size partition on the sd card
Sep 29 20:07:58 <thesing> this doesn't help. with a serial cable you could see the log messages. I guess I have to think about a way for people to watch logs without serial cable.
Sep 29 20:08:35 <Tomoe> Verty: hehe =)
Sep 29 20:09:18 <Verty> I kicked in the sd card and it gave a lot of errors.... error, dev mmcblk0, sector 
Sep 29 20:09:53 <Verty> heyy.... that looks promising... it did show up
Sep 29 20:10:37 <Verty> seems a clean sd did the trick... 
Sep 29 20:13:42 <Verty> "init: cannot execute /sbin/getty/"
Sep 29 20:14:09 <thesing> once the touchscreen driver is fixed you can use an x11 image without reflashing ;)
Sep 29 20:14:34 <thesing> there are some error messages.
Sep 29 20:15:30 <Verty> yeah but these were very final in result... can't do anything with it :)
Sep 29 20:16:51 <thesing> ok. thats not good.
Sep 29 20:17:27 <Verty> yupz... not processes in runlevel... eof :)
Sep 29 20:17:42 <thesing> but you can mount the card on you linux host and investigate the problem there.
Sep 29 20:17:59 <thesing> It may be the udev problem that got fixed last week (or so)
Sep 29 20:19:03 <Verty> sounds like it
Sep 29 20:19:52 <thesing> I will upload a new image.
Sep 29 20:20:33 <Verty> I saw something about udev can't create dev.tar on ro filesystem
Sep 29 20:21:40 <thesing> thats no problem. This just means that udev has to create the devicenodes on every boot. 
Sep 29 20:21:57 <thesing> root is remounted rw later.
Sep 29 20:24:08 <Verty> it doesn't seem to like my sd card
Sep 29 20:24:50 <thesing> do you block errors?
Sep 29 20:25:07 <thesing> do you get block errors?
Sep 29 20:26:39 <Verty> mmcblk0 error -22 sending read/write command
Sep 29 20:27:41 <thesing> as long as you don't get ext2 error messages this is no problem.
Sep 29 20:28:04 <thesing> the mmc layer in kernel retries the command a few times.
Sep 29 20:28:35 <Verty> I/O errors... prolly more... can't see it :(
Sep 29 20:28:58 <Verty> this is with the minimalist image btw
Sep 29 20:29:33 <Verty> also did force fsck on my other box and all is ok
Sep 29 20:30:22 <Verty> I guess we can blame it on the card+driver=notworkingouttoday thing :)
Sep 29 20:31:31 <Verty> card is detected alright though :(
Sep 29 20:32:13 <Verty> it goes ape-shit somewhere after starting udev and booting
Sep 29 20:32:34 <thesing> new console-image is up
Sep 29 20:34:55 <Verty> oh wow... the Angstrom shows up again :)
Sep 29 20:37:39 <Verty> and after that it's the /sbin/getty errors again
Sep 29 20:39:17 <thesing> ok. so its not the udev problem.
Sep 29 20:39:53 <thesing> I have no idea whats wrong then. If you find out please open a bug report.
Sep 29 20:40:22 <Verty> I will... maybe I can find a serial cable
Sep 29 20:40:41 <Verty> crap... finally found a smaller sd card... which is officially crapped :)
Sep 29 20:41:10 <thesing> officially crapped?
Sep 29 20:41:56 <Verty> as in it doesn't even work on my other machine :)
Sep 29 21:01:06 <Verty> thesing: interesting stuff, I found another sd card (256MB) and it has the same problem 
Sep 29 21:03:12 <thesing> I don't think that it is related to the card. But I don't have time to look into this.
Sep 29 21:04:37 <Verty> can imagen... specially with the limited info can give you
Sep 29 21:08:38 <thesing> try to change the init scripts on the card. Maybe you can fix it.
Sep 29 21:29:28 <hackjoe> i have compiled in the libertas drivers in 2.6.26, recognizes the card but shows up as eth0 instead of wlan0. any ideas?
Sep 29 21:31:55 <thesing> hackjoe: whats your problem? its just the name.
Sep 29 21:32:12 <hackjoe> ya, it should be showing up as wlan0
Sep 29 21:32:26 <Tomoe> OMG
Sep 29 21:32:33 <Tomoe> SOMEONE STOP THE PRESS
Sep 29 21:32:36 <Tomoe> =P
Sep 29 21:33:47 <hackjoe> might be a udev thing but i did not see anything specific in the udev rules
Sep 29 21:35:27 <Tomoe> hackjoe: if it works, why does it bother you?
Sep 29 21:36:47 <hackjoe> i have had troubles before with wpa supplicant and 'eth0'
Sep 29 21:38:30 <Tomoe> heh
Sep 29 21:38:42 <Tomoe> how come
Sep 29 21:38:49 <Tomoe> I use it on a wired connection no problem
Sep 29 21:48:39 <Verty> thesing: kicked in on of the angstrom autobuild images and that booted like a charm... so that's sorted for now
Sep 29 21:49:10 <Verty> if you want me to test some stuff, just query me... 
Sep 29 21:49:21 * Verty 's off
Sep 29 23:13:25 <johanbr> I am a bit bewildered by the relation between all the various projects: angstrom, openembedded, gpe, openmoko, linuxtogo etc... is there a page explaining this?
Sep 29 23:18:33 <bluelightning> no, but I can explain it...
Sep 29 23:18:52 <bluelightning> gpe and opie are GUI environments tuned for use on a PDA
Sep 29 23:19:11 <bluelightning> openembedded is a build system
Sep 29 23:19:24 <bluelightning> angstrom is a distribution which is built with openembedded
Sep 29 23:20:02 <bluelightning> linuxtogo is the website/group that hosts most of the aforementioned projects
Sep 29 23:20:34 <bluelightning> openmoko is a project and a brand... mostly a brand, for open source based phones
Sep 29 23:20:42 <bluelightning> hth
Sep 29 23:23:14 <johanbr> bluelightning: Ahh, that mostly explains things. Thank you.
Sep 29 23:23:44 <johanbr> Just another question... angstrom is a distribution of what exactly? gpe? openmoko? neither? 
Sep 29 23:24:17 <bluelightning> it's a linux distribution
Sep 29 23:24:26 <bluelightning> it includes gpe
Sep 29 23:24:34 <bluelightning> or rather, it can
Sep 29 23:25:04 <bluelightning> think of it sort of like debian or ubuntu, but for embedded devices (pdas, phones, embedded boards etc.)
Sep 29 23:25:22 <johanbr> Ahh, okay. So in principle it can include any gui?
Sep 29 23:25:26 <bluelightning> yes
Sep 29 23:26:05 <johanbr> I see. Thanks again.
Sep 29 23:39:48 <johanbr> A slightly more technical question: I just tried Angstrom-minimalist-gpe-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r18-a780.rootfs.tar.gz on my Motorola A1200.
Sep 29 23:41:13 <johanbr> However, this phone has 18 bpp which requires a patch to the X server (http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2007-September/008867.html). Since the colours are all screwed up, it appears this patch is not enabled in that build. Is that correct?
Sep 29 23:41:44 <bluelightning> johanbr: you may be right, but I wouldn't know much about that
Sep 29 23:41:56 <bluelightning> you'd be best to ask that on the angstrom-distro-users mailing list
Sep 29 23:42:15 <bluelightning> (or perhaps someone else here might be able to answer later on)
Sep 29 23:42:29 <johanbr> Alright, I'll try the mailing list. Thanks.
Sep 29 23:42:42 <bluelightning> np :)
Sep 29 23:43:40 <bluelightning> time for bed, night all
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