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Jan 07 09:37:06 <lupine_85> humm, the packages/linux/linux-msm7xxxx_git.bb package file seems to be broken
Jan 07 10:14:37 <lupine_85> well. for some reason it's trying to fetch  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/git_git.linuxtogo.org.home.groups.mobile-linux.kernel.git_c07884fc4c99845e2d940009e494f83e22509e3d.tar.gz
Jan 07 10:15:08 <lupine_85> SRC_URI_htcraphael = "git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;branch=htc-msm-2.6.25;protocol=git file://defconfig_htcraphael"
Jan 07 10:15:19 <lupine_85> and SRCREV_htcraphael = "c07884fc4c99845e2d940009e494f83e22509e3d"
Jan 07 10:15:33 <lupine_85> I'm not really sure why it's lookingg on the Angstrom website?
Jan 07 10:16:17 <DJWillis> lupine_85: that is normal
Jan 07 10:17:23 <lupine_85> DJWillis: I'm having a bit of trouble finding comprehensive documentation on the file format. Can I make it fall back to the git:// URL if it gets a 404? 
Jan 07 10:17:35 <lupine_85> (well, when)
Jan 07 10:17:39 <DJWillis> lupine_85: Open Embedded will look at the local source mirror 1st for code before trying the repo. This is so that common code (as you can verify the source revision in use) can be tared up and stored there if say the repro is offline, on a slow link etc.
Jan 07 10:18:00 <lupine_85> right, so it should be trying the git repo as well, then?
Jan 07 10:18:10 <DJWillis> lupine_85: it WILL fall back, the 404 is by design and then it looks at the main repro
Jan 07 10:18:28 <lupine_85> ah, I see a NOTE: Creating tarball of git repository
Jan 07 10:18:34 <DJWillis> lupine_85: what error do you get? let me guess, not using bitbake 1.8.11 are you?
Jan 07 10:18:57 <lupine_85> humm, then a fatal: failed to unpack tree object c07884fc4c99845e2d940009e494f83e22509e3d
Jan 07 10:19:05 <lupine_85> DJWillis: 1.8.10 
Jan 07 10:19:17 <DJWillis> No GIT errors, fetch error etc.? 
Jan 07 10:19:48 <lupine_85> git read-tree c07884fc4c99845e2d940009e494f83e22509e3d failed with signal 128, output:
Jan 07 10:19:55 <lupine_85> (no actual output as far as I can see)
Jan 07 10:19:58 <DJWillis> Using that old a BB is going to be a pain, you really want to consider getting a new one, happy to help you get setup (the GIT fetcher has had a LOT of work done on it).
Jan 07 10:20:13 <lupine_85> the next line goes NOTE: package linux-msm7xxxx-2.6.25+r1+gitrc07884fc4c99845e2d940009e494f83e22509e3d-r1: task do_fetch: failed
Jan 07 10:20:14 <DJWillis> Sounds like the GIT fetcher is FUBAR ;-)
Jan 07 10:20:20 <lupine_85> heh, quite
Jan 07 10:20:58 <DJWillis> Do you have 15mins or so, I can help you get a new BB setup. Do you have anything special like user collections?
Jan 07 10:20:59 <lupine_85> any pointers you can give would be great - like I said, I can't find the docs :D
Jan 07 10:21:19 <lupine_85> I have free time. I'm at work, but it's no biggie :D
Jan 07 10:21:22 <DJWillis> lupine_85: pass, I am just a user but finding most of this out when it bit me ;-)
Jan 07 10:21:57 <lupine_85> I started playing yesterday :D
Jan 07 10:22:17 <lupine_85> should I be using the later bitbake revision?
Jan 07 10:22:54 <DJWillis> what dir structure do you have any what is in your local.conf? (hint: rafb.net is handy for pastes).
Jan 07 10:23:25 <DJWillis> Using BitBake SVN is almost a must if your using packages that store source in GIT.
Jan 07 10:24:57 <DJWillis> I assume you have bitbake in a bitbake folder? I would suggest as a start you rename it to bitbake.old and from the folder above run 'svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.8/ bitbake'
Jan 07 10:25:36 <DJWillis> That will get you the latest SVN, if your doing nothing exotic then bitbake blah should just work but you may well have export issues (easy to fix).
Jan 07 10:26:36 <lupine_85> starting details: /opt/OE/openembedded/packages/linux/
Jan 07 10:26:40 <lupine_85> erm, d'oh
Jan 07 10:26:42 <lupine_85> http://rafb.net/p/D6XV3K71.html
Jan 07 10:27:26 <lupine_85> I installed the bitbake package (intrepid), butr installing the svn should be easy enough, I shall do now
Jan 07 10:27:46 <DJWillis> lupine_85: failing that, as pointed out to me ;-) you can use http://prdownload.berlios.de/bitbake/bitbake-1.8.12.tar.gz as that has the GIT fetcher fixes.
Jan 07 10:28:27 <DJWillis> Yep, the Ubuntu BitBake package is ancient. Not totally sure why OE does not require 1.8.12 as a minimum these days as a lot of people hit the GIT fetcher issues.
Jan 07 10:29:06 <XorA> DJWillis: there is always a few week pause between new release and requirement
Jan 07 10:29:13 <XorA> DJWillis: just in case the release is duff
Jan 07 10:29:41 <DJWillis> XorA: ahhh, makes sense.
Jan 07 10:29:46 <lupine_85> right, I'm on bitbake 1.8.13 now apparently
Jan 07 10:29:53 <lupine_85> BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.8.13, bitbake version 1.8.13
Jan 07 10:29:59 <DJWillis> lupine_85: good enough ;-)
Jan 07 10:30:03 <XorA> lupine_85: .odd number means SVN :-)
Jan 07 10:30:15 <lupine_85> ah, they use that scheme? good stuff :)
Jan 07 10:30:31 <lupine_85> (all the work with the htc raph at the moment is focusing on android. I just want real linux :p)
Jan 07 10:31:03 * XorA woudlnt mind fully working android on his kaiser
Jan 07 10:31:06 <lupine_85> well. the cross-distribution - kernel - stuff is good for all
Jan 07 10:31:11 <XorA> would save me buying a G1
Jan 07 10:31:20 <DJWillis> lupine_85: thought I recognised the nick. XDA? (been doing some Kaiser hacking with OE when not working on the Pandora).
Jan 07 10:31:31 <lupine_85> DJWillis: bits and pieces, yeah
Jan 07 10:31:38 <lupine_85> I have a raph100
Jan 07 10:31:48 <lupine_85> and a minor obsession with getting the keyboard working
Jan 07 10:32:10 <XorA> DJWillis: ah you have fingers in the kaiser pie as well
Jan 07 10:32:26 <lupine_85> I think I chose exactly the wrong hardware to get interested in
Jan 07 10:32:37 <lupine_85> I've spent the last few days decompiling ARM assembly
Jan 07 10:33:30 <DJWillis> XorA: I like to break things, sort of a habit of mine. I was looking into geting WiFi going on the Kaiser as both the Pandora and Kaiser are using the same chip. I also have several of them to mess with ;-).
Jan 07 10:33:47 <lupine_85>  * branch            htc-msm-2.6.25 -> FETCH_HEAD
Jan 07 10:33:54 <XorA> DJWillis: cool
Jan 07 10:33:56 <lupine_85> looks good
Jan 07 10:33:59 <DJWillis> lupine_85: well the Raph should be a good starting point as you have a pretty complete BSP from the G1.
Jan 07 10:34:13 <XorA> I wish I had time for messing with my kaiser, but I kinda need it as a working phone
Jan 07 10:34:24 * XorA has a pile of non working gta0X devices
Jan 07 10:34:25 <lupine_85> mm, but the keyboard is entirely new. and not matrix-driven :F
Jan 07 10:35:29 <DJWillis> lupine_85: ahh, not looked that close at my Raph as I did not really like it (like XorA I would be lost without my Kaiser as my phone).
Jan 07 10:36:03 <lupine_85> the keyboard is just awesome hardware
Jan 07 10:36:09 <lupine_85> I almost got an xperia, but... yeah
Jan 07 10:36:11 <lupine_85> svn
Jan 07 10:36:13 <rwhitby> XorA: I now have a collection of 6 gta0x devices, only 2.5 work
Jan 07 10:36:14 <lupine_85> whoops
Jan 07 10:36:20 <lupine_85> cp: cannot stat `/opt/OE/openembedded/packages/linux/linux-msm7xxxx/htcraphael/defconfig_htcraphael': No such file or directory
Jan 07 10:36:23 <lupine_85>  \o/
Jan 07 10:36:25 <lupine_85> (that's my error)
Jan 07 10:36:28 <XorA> rwhitby: did those numpties ever send you replacements?
Jan 07 10:36:48 <rwhitby> got a EU gta02 today :-)
Jan 07 10:37:07 <rwhitby> maybe this one will work properly ;-)
Jan 07 10:40:11 <DJWillis> lupine_85: well that is not there, it's just a defconf and the recipe in GIT looks ok. Have you pulled OpenEmbedded's GIT recently?
Jan 07 10:40:30 <DJWillis> rwhitby: want to put money on it. 
Jan 07 10:44:12 <lupine_85> DJWillis: I have last night's :). I need to add the file, is all
Jan 07 10:44:16 <lupine_85> (hence why it's my error)
Jan 07 10:44:30 <lupine_85> the linux-mobile git changed rather recently
Jan 07 10:44:35 <DJWillis> lupine_85: ahhh, you did not mention you have been hacking it up ;-)
Jan 07 10:44:38 <rwhitby> DJWillis: by "work properly", I mean power on reliably.
Jan 07 10:44:58 <lupine_85> I made a couple of changes :D
Jan 07 10:45:03 <DJWillis> rwhitby: still not convinced ;-)
Jan 07 11:38:29 <lupine_85> thanks for the pointer DJWillis :)
Jan 07 16:49:59 <bdoan> Is anyone around who knows about building for the beagleboard?
Jan 07 16:50:39 <bdoan> I'm running into problems with this file not being found: --2009-01-07 11:49:36--  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/git_git.infradead.org.mtd-utils.git_9845d92440bd87739c89edd000fd6e0c47fab185.tar.gz
Jan 07 16:59:46 <DJWillis> bdoan: what bitbake version?
Jan 07 17:00:36 <bdoan> bitbake version: 1.8.10
Jan 07 17:07:32 <DJWillis> bdoan: upgrade bitbake to  http://prdownload.berlios.de/bitbake/bitbake-1.8.12.tar.gz 1.8.12
Jan 07 17:10:38 <bdoan> DJWillis: Thanks!  It seems to be moving along better now.
Jan 07 17:35:08 <DJWillis> bdoan: cool :) BitBake < 1.8.12 is not so happy with GIT ;-)
Jan 07 20:53:48 <kets> hi! anybody there?
Jan 07 20:57:29 <kets> i'm looking for a good set of feeds, i've installed opie and dunno why but the angstrom repositories are a bit lacky... and apart from that i get lot of dependecies errors when , i think, i shouldn't
Jan 07 21:01:22 <bluelightning> hi kets 
Jan 07 21:01:40 <bluelightning> are you trying to add 2008.x feeds to a 2007.2 install? if so, that will cause issues
Jan 07 21:04:33 <kets> hi bluelightning , actually i'm trying to get feeds from anywhere... so i guess you're rigth
Jan 07 21:05:20 <bluelightning> are there specific apps you are missing? if so I can probably try to get them into the 2007 feeds
Jan 07 21:05:44 <kets> well, i'd like to have a web browser, a mail agent, a wireless applet...
Jan 07 21:06:00 <kets> i'm using the angstrom distributed with opie 1.2.3
Jan 07 21:06:19 <kets> i was trying to use gpe but it was really buggy
Jan 07 21:07:13 <kets> i'm using the rootfilesytem gotten from "http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/h2200/"
Jan 07 21:08:34 <bluelightning> opie-mail didn't work for me last time I tried, and I haven't had a chance to debug it
Jan 07 21:09:02 <bluelightning> not sure about the wireless applet, it may just need to be built and added to the feed if it isn't there
Jan 07 21:09:20 <bluelightning> web browser is there (konqueror-embedded)
Jan 07 21:10:04 <kets> uhmmm i'll have a look, thx
Jan 07 21:10:22 <kets> now i'm having doubts, the file i untar is "Angstrom-opie-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20081220-h2200.rootfs.tar.gz" but can't find it in the web...
Jan 07 21:11:00 <kets> ah no, it's there, sorry
Jan 07 21:11:26 <kets> and what about the opie-mediaplayer2 app? can it be donwloaded? 'cause it doesn't appear in the repo
Jan 07 21:13:36 <bluelightning> hmm, not sure... let me check my status list
Jan 07 21:16:25 <bluelightning> kets: I had problems getting video to work so I put it aside. however I guess even so it could still be added
Jan 07 21:17:58 <kets> uhmm so your advice is to use the angstrom feeds?
Jan 07 21:19:31 <bluelightning> if you want to avoid really nasty breakages, yes :)
Jan 07 21:20:34 <kets> :( i feel a bit sad, 'cause i've been testing for ten days with lots and lots of distros/desktop and now that i find one that really works it's a bit lacky with apps... 
Jan 07 21:20:37 <bluelightning> sometimes you can get away with installing extra non-feed packages on top
Jan 07 21:21:22 <kets> anyway thanks very much and last thing, i have a h2200 that can't get battery status, i've seeked around and seems to be very common, do you know how to fix it?
Jan 07 21:23:03 <bluelightning> kets: not sure, is it a genuine HP battery or a no-brand replacement?
Jan 07 21:24:02 <kets> it's genuine, the apm shows a very strange thing "root@HomeLands:~/downloads# cat /proc/apm 
Jan 07 21:24:06 <kets> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0xff 0xff 0xff -1% -1 ?
Jan 07 21:24:24 <kets> and the module seems to be loaded during boot..
Jan 07 21:28:14 <bluelightning> hmm
Jan 07 21:28:17 <bluelightning> uname -a ?
Jan 07 21:28:29 <bluelightning> where's my h2200 when I need it...
Jan 07 21:29:28 <kets> Linux HomeLands 2.6.21-hh20 #1 PREEMPT Sat Dec 20 04:54:35 CET 2008 armv5tel unknown
Jan 07 21:30:19 <bluelightning> argh my battery's flat
Jan 07 21:30:45 <kets> :)
Jan 07 21:33:24 <kets> do U use opie? or gpe?
Jan 07 21:34:13 <bluelightning> opie.. I'm a developer on the Opie project :)
Jan 07 21:35:03 <kets> cool, congrats then! nice work! 
Jan 07 21:35:29 <kets> i really rather gtk apps but this time there were reallly sloow...
Jan 07 21:37:03 <kets> and after several tries i end up using opie 
Jan 07 22:16:15 <kets> bluelightning: any help with the batt?
Jan 07 22:16:59 <bluelightning> so it always doesn't report any status? or only sometimes?
Jan 07 22:25:12 <kets> never
Jan 07 22:25:27 <kets> it's never worked
Jan 07 22:39:47 <bluelightning> kets: hmm, not sure I'm afraid, I haven't come across that problem on my h2200
Jan 07 22:47:01 <kets> bluelightning: it's okei anyway... it's a problem i'd like to solve 'cause it's a bit annoying
Jan 07 22:47:10 <kets> anyway thank you very much 4 everything! :)
Jan 07 22:47:19 <bluelightning> np
Jan 07 22:48:28 <kets> but you have no problem with the battery apm,right? just to keep some hope alive... 
Jan 07 22:52:15 <bluelightning> it sometimes behaves a bit weirdly, but most of the time it works
Jan 07 22:53:05 <bluelightning> I'm not sure if that will give you much hope... it's always behaved that way, I didn't have to do anything to fix it
Jan 07 22:56:10 <kets> okei, thanks anyway! :)
Jan 07 23:03:06 <kets> well, goodnight guys!
Jan 08 01:12:50 <eekee> hi, how do I get usb networking going on my spitz? g_ether module is loaded, & the interface configures. It breaks every reboot, so that the host computer doesn't recognize the interface as existing
Jan 08 01:13:05 <eekee> it also stays broken until something magical and mysterious happens
Jan 08 01:18:46 <eekee> meh nvm, need sleep
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