**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 25 02:59:57 2009 Feb 25 07:23:15 hi whats the password to ssh into z ? Feb 25 07:36:18 ok removed dropbear and installed openssh Feb 25 07:36:34 how do i get sd card working so i can use a swap file Feb 25 07:36:57 dmesg has error about cant find fat fs Feb 25 07:37:04 on sd Feb 25 07:44:00 hmm still asks for password even with openssh ??? Feb 25 07:50:52 plz can someone help me ssh into my zaurus it asks for password ??? Feb 25 15:02:29 any developer here ? Feb 25 15:24:06 http://www.elinux.org/Ipaq-Flameman .... h36** and h55** ---> gentoo idea Feb 25 16:24:03 any developer here ? Feb 25 16:26:18 <_whitefox> Hi, I am running angstrom on my beagleboard. How should I start in cross compile a piece of open source software for angstrom? Feb 25 16:28:08 ahaahaha Feb 25 16:32:55 <_whitefox> flameman:? Feb 25 16:33:11 if stupid question Feb 25 16:33:19 <_whitefox> yes I know Feb 25 16:33:21 <_whitefox> i am new Feb 25 16:33:23 i reply ahahaha Feb 25 16:34:08 what is your board ? iPAQ ? if so which model ? Feb 25 16:34:15 flameman, is it ansered in the FAQ? Feb 25 16:34:27 flameman, http://beagleboard.org/ Feb 25 16:34:32 yes it is Feb 25 16:34:58 anyway it is not a question that could be answered here Feb 25 16:35:31 also a lot of solutions are possible Feb 25 16:35:49 it depends a lot of your dev system, your linux system Feb 25 16:35:56 your idea of the build Feb 25 16:35:58 <_whitefox> I am using angstrom Feb 25 16:36:06 CRIST!! Feb 25 16:36:17 angstrom is not the right world ! Feb 25 16:36:58 _whitefox, normally the packages are built on a separate build machine Feb 25 16:37:00 angstrm is a minidistro compiled around busybox with iPAQ arm 1 in mind Feb 25 16:37:25 also it is NOT able to compile nothing native Feb 25 16:37:46 with busybox rootfs you have to crossbuild from an other machine Feb 25 16:37:49 an pray a lot Feb 25 16:38:36 http://beagleboard.org/project/angstrom/ Feb 25 16:38:46 <_whitefox> ok I think I get it now. Feb 25 16:38:51 <_whitefox> I will try using scrachbox Feb 25 16:39:09 you haven't answered my question Feb 25 16:39:16 which machine have you got ? Feb 25 16:39:21 <_whitefox> beagleboard Feb 25 16:39:38 ok, my fault, i do not know it Feb 25 16:41:40 _whitefox i don't know your board, i find it on the ewiki Feb 25 16:41:59 <_whitefox> i am new to embedded and cross compiling Feb 25 16:42:01 in any case i am running a project which makes you able to native compile everything you wnat Feb 25 16:42:14 <_whitefox> within angstrom? Feb 25 16:42:20 crist ! Feb 25 16:42:25 stop to say angstrom ! Feb 25 16:42:31 and say ARM ! Feb 25 16:42:38 angstrom is the distro ! Feb 25 16:42:46 <_whitefox> ahh ok Feb 25 16:42:47 <_whitefox> i get it Feb 25 16:43:00 i can run this project on every arm 1 ! Feb 25 16:43:05 arm 4 Feb 25 16:43:09 and such a stuff ! Feb 25 16:43:21 hi :) Feb 25 16:43:27 hi Feb 25 16:43:28 <_whitefox> that's great. So, when you project is ready, there is no need to cross compile. Feb 25 16:43:39 exactly ! Feb 25 16:43:53 at this moment i am emerging x11 native ! Feb 25 16:44:00 im running latest opie build on my z but i cant ssh into it it asks for password ? Feb 25 16:44:01 gcc 4.1.2 Feb 25 16:44:04 angstrom is one Linux distribution you can run on your beagle board Feb 25 16:44:15 What sort of application do you have in mind? Feb 25 16:44:16 angstrom is a distro Feb 25 16:44:17 . Feb 25 16:44:49 how do ssh into my z running opie asks for password ? Feb 25 16:45:05 i am trashing my time Feb 25 16:45:07 bye Feb 25 16:45:09 and what browser can i run in opie Feb 25 16:45:22 cause conq doesnt load Feb 25 16:45:28 im mean konq Feb 25 16:45:39 i install to home Feb 25 16:45:58 g4lv4tr0n: which zaurus? konq works well for me on simpad and qemuarm Feb 25 16:46:08 g4lv4tr0n, can't you set the password if you're logged on locally? Feb 25 16:47:16 i got 5600 but im install to home as root only has around 1.5mb space free Feb 25 16:47:34 how do i set a password for dropbear in opie Feb 25 16:48:36 usual at shell with passwd Feb 25 16:48:43 ah ok :) Feb 25 16:48:53 im guessing i then set a root password ? Feb 25 16:49:07 yes Feb 25 16:49:35 alternative you can generate public/private keys Feb 25 16:50:21 keys get generated just trying to login from pc asks for password Feb 25 16:50:50 on 5600 on opie is it ok to install to home as there is not enough space on root Feb 25 16:51:08 i noticed there is no ipkg-link anymore Feb 25 16:52:30 g4lv4tr0n: I'don't know if you set the path/lib env right it may work if there are no hardcoded paths Feb 25 16:52:47 can i merge home and root as one larger space or would installing opie to sd give me a bigger root partition Feb 25 16:52:51 g4lv4tr0n: But you can try kexecboot Feb 25 16:55:04 if i install to sd would that give me a bigger root ? Feb 25 16:57:07 yes the sd will become the root Feb 25 16:57:23 with kexecboot Feb 25 16:58:17 cool how do i use kexecboot and install rom to sd ? Feb 25 17:00:09 hello Crofton :) Feb 25 17:00:26 have you had time to peak what went wrong with the omap kernel ? Feb 25 17:01:31 g4lv4tr0n: best you ask for this at angstom mailing list I never used it myself but know about people which have it working Feb 25 17:03:05 putumutukas, no Feb 25 17:03:58 what exactly is the problem? Feb 25 17:05:03 ~seen thesing Feb 25 17:05:44 you have the usb driver, but lack the modules? Feb 25 17:05:58 try untaring the modules.tar.gz file onto root Feb 25 17:06:04 it doesn't produce nor include the ohci and usb core and due to that doesn't seem to recoqnize the usbserial drivers Feb 25 17:06:20 the usb drivers are built in, so not modules Feb 25 17:06:36 but in opkg list i should see them ? Feb 25 17:06:43 maybe Feb 25 17:07:00 anyway i don't Feb 25 17:07:00 I think it is hitting a repo that does not have results of current kernel build Feb 25 17:07:11 so untar modules.tar.gz onto the rootfs Feb 25 17:07:27 that file should be in deploy...images directory Feb 25 17:07:35 and i cant remember what module i was trying to install and i got the error that it doesn't meet the dependencies for ohci, core etc Feb 25 17:07:48 ok Feb 25 17:07:52 i'll try Feb 25 17:07:55 try installing the files with all the modules from the build dir Feb 25 17:08:32 hmm Feb 25 17:08:33 ok Feb 25 17:08:51 will have the chance to try in 2 weeks since i'm abroad :) Feb 25 17:09:13 -rw-rw-r-- 1 balister balister 427936 2009-02-19 15:47 modules-2.6.27-r14-omap5912osk.tgz Feb 25 17:09:16 ah Feb 25 17:09:23 that is wht i ave Feb 25 17:09:36 thiose modules will match the kernel rev Feb 25 17:09:41 which I think is your issue Feb 25 17:09:44 I hope :) Feb 25 17:15:24 in this archive should be all the modules it has for the kernel ? Feb 25 17:16:38 I wish the OSK would boot from SD cards :) Feb 25 17:17:05 but the cf isn't a possibility ? Feb 25 17:17:44 I do not think so Feb 25 17:18:00 You have to flash the kernel and rootfs in to flash Feb 25 17:18:05 ok, I can do root over nfs Feb 25 17:18:18 the basic issue is, I ave to do some setup to test Feb 25 17:18:28 ok :) Feb 25 17:18:29 as oppsoed to copy files to a SD card Feb 25 17:18:40 which is what I do for overo and beagle Feb 25 17:18:53 so only setup is attach console Feb 25 17:18:55 So any rtfm about making the ipaq 3870 work with angstram? What can I look into? Feb 25 17:20:48 but beagle and overo are able to look for the kernel in sd as well ? Feb 25 17:23:10 putumutukas, right :) Feb 25 17:33:12 im guessing after ive setup my sd card and extracted rootfs to it i then rename kexecboot to zimage.bin and do an update ? Feb 25 17:39:10 hmm... obviously this is not the right place to start Feb 25 18:19:21 do i extract rootfs.tar.gz to root of sd Feb 25 18:19:33 or do i just place the archive on sd Feb 25 18:27:01 Does anybody know how to fix a "QA staging was broken by the package built above" error, where the messages above say "libxyz failed sanity test"? Feb 25 18:37:42 Capn_Fish: I get those too from time to time. I've never figured it out. Sometimes it's caused by dash, sometimes it's something else. Usually the packages work on the target, but the target can't be used for development. Feb 25 18:38:14 decided to use altboot for the moment Feb 25 18:38:29 as i cant find out how to use kexecboot Feb 25 18:39:05 and not sure if kexecboot has a install option for rootfs.tar.gz Feb 25 18:43:48 ClashTheBunny: I'm using bash, I made sure to switch it, so unfortunately that's not my problem Feb 25 18:44:54 Also, it doesn't even manage to build the package...It just stops at do_qa_staging :( Feb 25 18:45:33 yeah, I've added into my bitbake command the "-k" option which continues even if there are errors. Feb 25 18:46:39 So that would make it keep going, ignoring the issues? Feb 25 18:47:13 If the packages still work, that sounds like a good solution Feb 25 18:47:22 yep Feb 25 18:48:05 Awesome, I will try that. Thanks a million! I've been trying to fix the problem for ~3 days now Feb 25 18:48:18 You won't be able to compile things with that lib on the target architecture, like if you're building for a Zaurus, and want to compile things on your zaurus, then you could run into issues with that lib, but everything linked with that package will still run. Feb 25 18:48:59 Yeah, there's not a really good answer to that anywhere on the mailing list or forms, that's the problem that got me to start lurking here. :-) Feb 25 18:49:38 Normally that would bug me, but I'm doing this for my iPAQ (not my Z this time), which I don't intend on building anything on. It'll just be (gasp) a PDA Feb 25 18:50:04 how do i use swap partition on sd instead of swapfile ? Feb 25 18:50:56 g4lv4tr0n: Make the swap partition with "mkswap /dev/mmcblkxpy" where x and y are the card number and partition number, respectively Feb 25 18:51:31 i made the partion already :) Feb 25 18:51:31 Then just add it to /etc/fstab (google for a Debian example and basically copy the line) Feb 25 18:51:49 OK, then run "swapon /dev/swapdevice" Feb 25 18:51:51 or you can swapon /dev/mmcblkxpy Feb 25 18:52:02 ooh, too quick! nice! Feb 25 18:52:03 ok cool :) Feb 25 18:52:09 np Feb 25 18:53:31 wow opie is nice running off sd :) Feb 25 18:54:10 nice and now i have 130+mb on root :) Feb 25 18:54:53 ClashTheBunny: It's still bailing out, even with the -k option :( Feb 25 18:55:03 what's the command you are running? Feb 25 18:55:06 g4lv4tr0n: What device are you using? Feb 25 18:55:13 ClashTheBunny: bitbake -k tangogps Feb 25 18:55:20 poodle :) Feb 25 18:55:42 Ah, fun times with Zauruses :) Feb 25 18:56:21 :) Feb 25 18:56:34 can you paste the output into a pastebin? Feb 25 18:56:55 yeah, hang on Feb 25 18:57:01 i though i had a broken z until last night :) whenever trying to use wifi it would crash Feb 25 18:57:39 ClashTheBunny: http://pastebin.com/d4902f58b Feb 25 18:57:50 That's without the -k, BTW, but it should be the same Feb 25 18:57:52 truns out i just have to put the wifi cf card cafully and not put it all the way in or the screen freezes Feb 25 18:58:07 Weird Feb 25 18:58:37 I've had a couple of instances on my Z where putting the wi-fi card in would make the screen turn white and necetate a reboot Feb 25 18:58:43 yeah it used to be fine when i first got it Feb 25 18:59:23 Capn_Fish: and did you check the deploy directory for an .ipk Feb 25 18:59:24 So long as it works Feb 25 18:59:36 but i guess over use the cf slot seems to hold the card better if i dont put it all the way :) Feb 25 18:59:37 ClashTheBunny: No, I should probably do that...brb Feb 25 18:59:56 now i can use angstrom and my z again :) Feb 25 19:00:18 ive always wanted a big root on my z :) Feb 25 19:01:53 ClashTheBunny: It apparently made the IPK (it has files in it, at least) :D Feb 25 19:02:05 Capn_Fish: the other thing that it could be (very frustrating that this is the case) but there seems to be a bug when TMPDIR has a dash in it; I think yours is "angstrom-opsat". It requires a total rebuild, but that may work. Feb 25 19:02:32 ClashTheBunny: :( That would be rebuild #4 Feb 25 19:02:42 g4lv4tr0n: I do like having lots of space on / Feb 25 19:02:59 Capn_Fish: Yeah, it was frustrating for me too. I wish that bug was better tracked down... :-( Feb 25 19:03:04 ClashTheBunny: I might as well try it Feb 25 19:03:23 But I've not had problems with the IPK's that I end up with even with QA issues. Feb 25 19:04:52 g4lv4tr0n: I still have a tosa that I want to better utilize, and that space on the root is what I need! :-) Feb 25 19:04:55 I'll just leave the old tempdir, and worst case I have that :) Feb 25 19:05:03 wow z very quick now off sd :) Feb 25 19:05:06 Yep! Feb 25 19:05:37 I like my Spitz's 4 GB drive. I've got Ubuntu 9.04 on there ATM B) Feb 25 19:06:30 nice :) Feb 25 19:06:51 can i run ubuntu on poodle or would it be too slow Feb 25 19:06:56 I think you can Feb 25 19:06:58 Yeah, I've got Zubuntu on my Terrier, I'm working on doing the dist-upgrade on it to Jaunty. Feb 25 19:07:11 I believe it works on any Z supporting kexec Feb 25 19:07:24 Poodle would work. It's tough because it has a low resolution screen. Feb 25 19:07:51 will minimo run in opie ? Feb 25 19:08:04 I don't think so Feb 25 19:08:26 will opera ? Feb 25 19:08:46 No idea. Feb 25 19:08:56 I'm looking to see if there's an opie browser now Feb 25 19:09:29 It looks like there's Konqueror-embedded Feb 25 19:09:32 theres konq but i prefer opera with multimodal support :) Feb 25 19:09:43 im a java dev :) Feb 25 19:09:48 Ah Feb 25 19:10:03 The solution is obvious, then: Switch to C++ :P Feb 25 19:10:10 is there java runtime on angstrom ? Feb 25 19:10:14 lol Feb 25 19:10:25 i have no c xp Feb 25 19:10:34 but lots of java xp :) Feb 25 19:10:44 I thought C++ was similar to Java (I've never used Java) Feb 25 19:10:53 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ Feb 25 19:11:07 FWIW, you can search there for packages. I'm not seeing any Java stuff Feb 25 19:11:29 :( Feb 25 19:11:42 Ubuntu/Debian will have it, though Feb 25 19:11:49 You could try a dual-boot :) Feb 25 19:12:45 i used to use java on sharp rom and oz there was the personalprofile.ipk from sun Feb 25 19:12:56 ill see if it install in a bit Feb 25 19:12:57 I've got to head off. cya, and thanks for the help Feb 25 19:13:50 when i first got my z i made a wifi client/server to select music tracks to play/transfer Feb 25 19:14:49 g4lv4tr0n: did you build your image or did you just flash images? Feb 25 19:19:07 hmm im using ipkg gui to update the lists but after update the lists arent displayed ? Feb 25 19:21:09 no new packages to install :( somethings not getting update on rootfs on sd Feb 25 19:22:07 which version of angstrom are you using? Feb 25 19:22:11 stable? Feb 25 19:22:59 yep Feb 25 19:23:05 r18 Feb 25 19:26:43 hmm lists do update though cause i can install new ipkg from ssh Feb 25 19:27:18 maybe its reading them from the wrong place using rootfs on sd Feb 25 19:27:37 i didnt put home in image i kept home artition Feb 25 19:28:11 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=cacao Feb 25 19:30:30 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=jamvm Feb 25 19:30:51 nice :) Feb 25 19:31:00 just got konq running :) Feb 25 19:33:30 any operator in this channel ? Feb 25 19:40:40 theres phoneme aswell :) Feb 25 19:41:10 hi Feb 25 19:53:08 is opie-irc available for poodle ? Feb 25 19:53:19 cant find package with ipkg Feb 25 19:53:29 do you use angstrom or oz? Feb 25 19:55:00 angstrom Feb 25 19:55:28 opie-mediaplayer1-core it cant find on poodle either Feb 25 19:55:51 i don't know if those packages are compiled Feb 25 19:57:46 g4lv4tr0n: you can check it here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ Feb 25 20:24:23 Hi all ! Feb 25 20:24:53 Can someone help me with my beagle board. Feb 25 20:25:39 I have installed the demo binary from here : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/node/47 Feb 25 20:25:51 got console on ttys2 but no X session Feb 25 20:26:07 Is there way to call X session from console ? Feb 25 20:26:23 there is not startx script.... :/ Feb 25 20:28:18 OK I'll try the link from title Feb 25 20:30:10 Is there someone from FR ? Feb 25 20:38:13 hi - i cant help but i have a question about beagleboard Feb 25 20:38:20 where did you bought it? Feb 25 20:38:29 i cant get it in poland ;/ Feb 25 20:59:19 sli__: have you the x server ? Feb 25 21:33:04 how do i get sound working ? Feb 25 21:33:07 on opie Feb 25 21:33:56 I don't know, I use gpe Feb 25 21:39:52 is it possible to install old ipks ? Feb 25 21:40:06 i tried to install opera_6_new Feb 25 21:40:17 test it Feb 25 21:40:37 it installed ok no errors but in ssh there is no opera listed Feb 25 21:40:44 no command Feb 25 21:41:02 not sure if this has something to do with running of sd ? Feb 25 21:44:34 how do i search for file ? Feb 25 21:46:03 you can use find Feb 25 21:48:37 hmm although ipk installed ok it cant find the file ? Feb 25 22:06:45 g4lv4tr0n: have you use find command ? Feb 25 22:07:22 yep Feb 25 22:07:50 not sure if it checks all filesystems though like sd Feb 25 22:08:04 or /home partition Feb 25 22:08:55 im thinking when install with altboot maybe i should put home in the image Feb 25 22:09:37 you should Feb 25 22:09:42 all the system on one place Feb 25 22:11:21 hmm just noticed these apps get installed to /home/QtPalmtop Feb 25 22:11:31 folders are created but no files Feb 25 22:12:16 should i inclued home on sd aswell ? Feb 25 22:12:28 i have it on the sd Feb 25 22:12:53 inside the image file Feb 25 22:12:53 i chose to keep it as partition on install Feb 25 22:13:25 do you think it maybe a write permission problem or something ? Feb 25 22:13:34 have you tried installing opera ? Feb 25 22:13:42 some years ago Feb 25 22:13:53 yeah me too :) Feb 25 22:17:16 reinstalling again :) Feb 25 22:17:23 :) Feb 25 22:21:43 night all... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 26 02:59:57 2009