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Feb 26 09:13:07 <Guest45057> any operator in this channel ?
Feb 26 09:31:52 <Guest45057> anybody with channel operator power ?
Feb 26 09:32:39 <DJW|Home> Guest45057: what's up, the chan does not really need ops (being on freenode and all).
Feb 26 09:33:25 <Guest45057> how to unban ?
Feb 26 09:34:58 <DJWillis> Guest45057: if you got banned from here you really must have upset someone. Your just going to have to wait (there are a handfull of people who can take OPS when needed). Leave some info in the chan so anyone reading the logs can action it if they feel the need.
Feb 26 09:36:01 <Guest45057> i was speaking about what angstrom, i said angstrom has been released made around busybox 
Feb 26 09:36:19 <Guest45057> ant as it is made around busybox it is not able to native complile
Feb 26 09:36:34 <Guest45057> at this point a guy has banned me
Feb 26 09:41:35 <Guest45057> -
Feb 26 09:41:57 <Guest45057> yesterday i ordered an h5500, so my project could take off :P
Feb 26 09:58:31 <sli__> hallo! can someone tell me what is the angstrom mailing list ?
Feb 26 09:58:45 <sli__> Angstrom site is down 
Feb 26 10:03:53 <sli__> plz
Feb 26 10:07:54 <Guest45057> sorry, no idea
Feb 26 10:27:58 <sli__> :( ok
Feb 26 10:28:28 <sli__> Did someone try the Angstrom binary demo (fs) for the beable ?
Feb 26 10:28:34 <sli__> I am testing it
Feb 26 10:30:20 <pocek> sli__: angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org or -users. Mailman: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel (seems down)
Feb 26 10:31:24 <sli__> thks
Feb 26 10:36:23 <Guest45057> sli__ no, cause i have not such a board, not yet i mean
Feb 26 10:36:32 <Guest45057> what is this demo about ?
Feb 26 10:39:27 <sli__> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/node/47
Feb 26 10:39:31 <sli__> I got it from here
Feb 26 10:40:00 <Guest45057> mmm have you got compiler out of your angstrom install ?
Feb 26 10:40:03 <Guest45057> gcc&c
Feb 26 10:40:14 <sli__> no build tools installed
Feb 26 10:40:17 <sli__> why
Feb 26 10:40:37 <sli__> In fact there is not much info about how this demo has been built
Feb 26 10:40:57 <sli__> Well because these distro is ready to go binaries
Feb 26 10:41:02 <Guest45057> i am also confused about the angstrom builds about iPAQ
Feb 26 10:41:20 <Guest45057> they are made around busybox
Feb 26 10:41:36 <sli__> what's the pb with busybox
Feb 26 10:41:47 <Guest45057> busybox can't run gcc
Feb 26 10:41:56 <sli__> ? 
Feb 26 10:42:09 <sli__> busybox does not include gcc but this is not a pb
Feb 26 10:42:16 <Guest45057> yes it is
Feb 26 10:42:17 <sli__> add it yourself
Feb 26 10:42:41 <sli__> I think toolchain comes appart for busybox
Feb 26 10:42:41 <Guest45057> a busybox build tends to reduce the system libraries
Feb 26 10:42:48 <sli__> yes
Feb 26 10:42:50 <Guest45057> so you have no glibc
Feb 26 10:43:05 <Guest45057> without glibc gcc can't run
Feb 26 10:43:06 <sli__> busybox is just some bash tools
Feb 26 10:43:13 <Guest45057> damn
Feb 26 10:43:37 <Guest45057> busybox is not a tiny replace of bash
Feb 26 10:43:43 <Guest45057> it's a full rootfs
Feb 26 10:43:48 <sli__> yes
Feb 26 10:43:54 <Guest45057> so reduced libraries !
Feb 26 10:44:00 <Guest45057> so gcc can'r run !
Feb 26 10:44:06 <pocek> Guest45057: you want to run gcc on a target, or what?
Feb 26 10:44:22 <Guest45057> pocek i am running gcc on my iPAQ just now
Feb 26 10:45:04 <pocek> the fact that you have busybox doesn't mean you don't have glibc
Feb 26 10:45:18 <Guest45057> an to be hones i run gcc on a tiny device called "fonera", with root=/dev/mmc3 (yes mmc/sd)
Feb 26 10:45:26 <Guest45057> well
Feb 26 10:45:32 <Guest45057> pocek you are right
Feb 26 10:45:35 <Guest45057> but !
Feb 26 10:45:36 <pocek> no problem with angstrom here
Feb 26 10:45:50 <Guest45057> if a build is made with busybox rootfs
Feb 26 10:46:01 <Guest45057> it's hardly probably you have no glibc !
Feb 26 10:46:22 <Guest45057> also you can't chroot to a full rootfs
Feb 26 10:46:40 <Guest45057> that's called "embedded way"
Feb 26 10:46:41 <pocek> I build angstrom and I have glibc so...
Feb 26 10:46:52 <Guest45057> try to run gcc
Feb 26 10:47:51 <Guest45057> mmm
Feb 26 10:48:02 <Guest45057> i have an other question in my mind
Feb 26 10:48:12 <Guest45057> about framebuffer on iPAQ
Feb 26 10:48:23 <Guest45057> SA11**-arm around
Feb 26 10:48:45 <pocek> what iPAQ model?
Feb 26 10:48:49 <Guest45057> angstrom should have something in kernel support around arm pxa2** that should be veru similar
Feb 26 10:49:05 <Guest45057> iPAQ36** (---> armv4 type sa11**)
Feb 26 10:49:38 <Guest45057> the angstrom support has the h55** ( ----> armv4 type pxa2**)
Feb 26 10:50:35 <Guest45057> as i want to support the 36** with kernel 2.6, i am just studying what is working and what is no
Feb 26 10:50:50 <Guest45057> about fb, i am experimenting with links2 -driver fb
Feb 26 10:51:11 <Guest45057> just cause i have no kdrive or such a tiny stuff around x11
Feb 26 10:51:45 <pocek> may be a challenging task ;)
Feb 26 10:52:01 <Guest45057> :)
Feb 26 10:52:52 <Guest45057> i have to understand what exactly is the angstrom support for h55**
Feb 26 10:53:07 <Guest45057> i mean what has been built, and how it has been built !
Feb 26 11:01:22 <Guest45057> -
Feb 26 11:01:38 <Guest45057> anybody knows ho to fix this issue: the iPAQ powers off the lcd in 90sec after it is booted up
Feb 26 11:01:55 <Guest45057> hot to power the lcd on ? how to make it not to do that ? 
Feb 26 11:02:02 <Guest45057> help is appreciated 
Feb 26 11:05:32 <koen> there
Feb 26 11:05:42 <koen> I guess taking hints is hard for some people
Feb 26 11:14:09 <sli__> did someone here has tried the 'custom' angtrom from http://tinyurl.com/dfcer3
Feb 26 11:14:17 <sli__> I'm trying it
Feb 26 11:14:37 <sli__> but I am missing the uboot env to put
Feb 26 11:30:56 <sli__> some notification about the angstrom demo binary : X does not start because it cannot create a file in /tmp. So I add an entry in fstab to mount /tmp on tmps fs and now it works
Feb 26 12:01:38 <mpoullet> good afternoon
Feb 26 12:02:03 <mpoullet> i'd like to understand a little bit more the way the ffmpeg recipe works
Feb 26 12:02:52 <mpoullet> it fetches a git archive from an angstrom server instead of cloning directly mansr git repo, why does it work that way?
Feb 26 12:03:21 <Crofton|work> so it does pound mru's server to death
Feb 26 12:04:22 <mpoullet> Crofton|work: ok, but the archive it fetches is a git repo without a cleaned index, I find this strange
Feb 26 12:05:02 <mpoullet> then it does a git read tree with a treeish I can't find anymore in mansr online repo
Feb 26 12:05:03 <Crofton|work> this I do not know :)
Feb 26 12:05:47 <mpoullet> so it's hard to find the same stand as the one the actual .bb uses
Feb 26 12:09:12 <mpoullet> I mean I can take the angstrom archive, do the same git read-tree and git checkout-index, and I get it, but I find it's a mess... but maybe I'm missing the point...
Feb 26 13:10:35 <sli__> Did someone try the rootfses given in the channel title ?
Feb 26 13:47:34 <sli__> If someone is interested with the results of my angstrom rootfs tests ...
Feb 26 13:48:19 <g4lv4tr0n> is anyone able to get opera installed on opie ?
Feb 26 13:58:10 <sli__> isn't it available with ipkg ?
Feb 26 14:10:24 <g4lv4tr0n> anyone here a member of oesf.com ?
Feb 26 14:11:08 <g4lv4tr0n> can you download this ipk for me pls as i just registered again and dont have permission to download it until after account validation
Feb 26 14:11:10 <g4lv4tr0n> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=15885&mode=threaded&pid=158472
Feb 26 14:11:20 <g4lv4tr0n> its opera for OZ 3.5.4
Feb 26 14:21:54 <g4lv4tr0n> can someone see if this file is still there ? download it and post it to me plz
Feb 26 14:22:00 <g4lv4tr0n> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=15885&mode=threaded&pid=158472
Feb 26 14:22:15 <g4lv4tr0n> its opera for sd oz 3.5.4
Feb 26 14:29:49 <sli__> this link needs a login, sorry
Feb 26 14:30:01 <sli__> Did you give a look at : http://www.handhelds.org/pipermail/familiar/313/31372.html
Feb 26 14:33:41 <g4lv4tr0n> hmm i cant download ipk from anywhere
Feb 26 14:34:23 <g4lv4tr0n> i need that version multimodal ibm version repackaged for OZ 3.5.4
Feb 26 14:43:17 <g4lv4tr0n> has anyone still got this file anywhere. plz search for it :) opera_7.55.OZ3.5.4_arm.ipk ?
Feb 26 14:43:18 <mr_nice> g4lv4tr0n: the link is working you just need to register
Feb 26 14:43:37 <g4lv4tr0n> i have registered but i have to wait for admin to review account
Feb 26 14:43:46 <g4lv4tr0n> can you dcc send plz
Feb 26 14:44:06 <g4lv4tr0n> my next question is does it work on andstrom :)
Feb 26 14:44:47 <mr_nice> g4lv4tr0n: I don't think so.
Feb 26 14:45:02 <mr_nice> g4lv4tr0n: but I did not test it
Feb 26 14:45:14 <g4lv4tr0n> thats cool i try and hack it on there :)
Feb 26 14:45:22 <g4lv4tr0n> can you dcc send plz
Feb 26 14:47:38 <mr_nice> g4lv4tr0n: use bugmenot.com or wait. I don't think it is legal to share it. so I will not dl and send it
Feb 26 14:48:24 <mr_nice> g4lv4tr0n: btw: did you can try out konqueror-embedded
Feb 26 14:49:18 <g4lv4tr0n> yep works nicely
Feb 26 14:49:32 <g4lv4tr0n> i wont ell anyone if you dont :)
Feb 26 14:49:36 <g4lv4tr0n> tell
Feb 26 14:49:51 <g4lv4tr0n> it would be for the better of the poddle community
Feb 26 14:50:54 <g4lv4tr0n> otherwise i have to wait for the admin to view my new registration cause he took it upon himself to delete my old account :(
Feb 26 14:52:44 <g4lv4tr0n> plz someone dcc me the file, no one cares thats why we are all linux users :)
Feb 26 15:00:20 <g4lv4tr0n> :( mr nice doesnt love & support our community as much as i thought :(
Feb 26 15:00:28 <g4lv4tr0n> lol
Feb 26 15:02:36 <sli__> we can support when it's legal
Feb 26 15:02:41 <sli__> :)
Feb 26 15:03:03 <sli__> haaaaaa this beagle board doesn't want to output on dvi
Feb 26 15:04:04 <g4lv4tr0n> thats the first time ever someone has been worried to dcc something thats posted on a public forum anyway :)
Feb 26 15:05:56 <g4lv4tr0n> that kindof sucks cause opera dont even host the file and i think ibm have removed it cause its so old :) and i doubt anyone in ibm even uses a zaurus anymore :)
Feb 26 15:06:52 <DJWillis> If it so old why not try something modern like WebKit based
Feb 26 15:07:11 <g4lv4tr0n> ?
Feb 26 15:07:15 <g4lv4tr0n> what like
Feb 26 15:07:27 <g4lv4tr0n> my only other alt is konq
Feb 26 15:07:32 <g4lv4tr0n> im running opie
Feb 26 15:08:09 <g4lv4tr0n> ibm should revive the Z :)
Feb 26 15:08:14 <g4lv4tr0n> and sharp
Feb 26 15:08:32 <g4lv4tr0n> look at the great support sharp gave us lol
Feb 26 15:55:46 <sli__> does someone has a VMlinux with etx2 support in kernel (and not module)
Feb 26 15:56:31 <sli__> I did want to say vmlinux for beagleboard
Feb 26 15:58:22 <sli__> Or can someone help me to make an debian-initrd for preload of ext2 and switch to SD filesystem
Feb 26 15:59:50 <sli__> I'd be grateful for any answer :'|
Feb 26 16:49:40 <g4lv4tr0n> lol just went wifi sniffing with z for old times sake and educational use only :)
Feb 26 16:50:00 <g4lv4tr0n> found a wifi printserver :) rofl
Feb 26 16:50:14 <g4lv4tr0n> with no wep :)
Feb 26 16:50:27 <g4lv4tr0n> a lexmark
Feb 26 16:51:06 <g4lv4tr0n> i wonder if i can print something off :)
Feb 26 16:52:11 <g4lv4tr0n> Print from N95 over WLAN lol
Feb 26 18:30:08 <g4lv4tr0n> hi can someone download this file for me plz if you are a member been waiting ages for new account to be viewed by admin to be able to download this :(
Feb 26 18:30:26 <g4lv4tr0n> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=15885&mode=threaded&pid=158472
Feb 26 18:49:33 <ClashTheBunny> maybe the opera would work from: http://quickening.zapto.org/ZaurusFeed/
Feb 26 18:49:56 <ClashTheBunny> opera_7.55.6079_arm.ipk?
Feb 26 18:50:10 <g4lv4tr0n> cool thanks
Feb 26 19:03:23 <g4lv4tr0n> whats c3k2 ?
Feb 26 19:03:25 <g4lv4tr0n> opera_7.55.6079-c3k-2_arm.ipk
Feb 26 19:03:48 <ClashTheBunny> it is for the sl-c3200 maybe.
Feb 26 19:27:44 <g4lv4tr0n> hmm clash i just tried to use that feed. i did ipkg install opera but when it runs wget package is null ??? :(
Feb 26 19:28:47 <g4lv4tr0n> im just going to reboot and try agai
Feb 26 19:34:43 <g4lv4tr0n> hmm still null for some reason package name isnt getting parsed properly from Packages on that feed
Feb 26 19:35:11 <g4lv4tr0n> ah Packages isnt .gz on that feed
Feb 26 21:05:37 <g4lv4tr0n> i just installed opera but i get sh file not found
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