**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 26 14:18:21 2009 Mar 26 15:24:59 hi all. i got a customized version of Angstrom built for my BeagleBoard. The moment I enter the password at the login screen, the screen goes blank. Any ideas how I get this fixed? Your help is appreciated. Mar 26 15:26:26 i have a VA1912wb viewsonic digital LCD with the bootargs taking 1280x724MR-24@60 Mar 26 15:27:37 1280x720MR-24@60 Mar 26 17:41:15 * HRH_H_Crab pokes Snarf6 Mar 26 17:56:43 has any one used the angstrom build instructions from linux4sam lately? Mar 26 18:04:16 seems to be out of date. bitbake 1.8.6 dependencies, angstrom-2007.1. however, i see press releases from nov '08 about it. Mar 26 18:05:11 nov'08 is nearly 6 months ago Mar 26 18:06:12 agreed. 1 year old build and 6 mo old announcements Mar 26 18:06:35 i'm trying to work with angstrom-2008.1 (minimal-image), but i'm debugging kernel panics Mar 26 18:07:00 I have 2008.1 running nicely on a tosa Mar 26 18:07:31 at91? Mar 26 18:07:52 wodell: which distro do you use? Mar 26 18:08:10 angstrom-2008.1 Mar 26 18:08:18 as build environment Mar 26 18:08:30 ubuntu 8.04 Mar 26 18:08:45 may sound little bit funny and stupid Mar 26 18:08:51 but Mar 26 18:09:09 i've been building angstrom-2008.1 on kubuntu 8.04 several months ago Mar 26 18:09:18 kernel wasn't able to boot Mar 26 18:09:30 then i've switched to slackware Mar 26 18:09:39 made built of the same angstrom-2008.1 Mar 26 18:09:48 and everything works ok Mar 26 18:09:54 i can build 2008.1, but kernel panic in INIT (udev dies) Mar 26 18:10:10 which machine? Mar 26 18:10:22 at91sam9g20-ek Mar 26 18:10:34 different platform Mar 26 18:10:42 try out to build on different platform Mar 26 18:11:24 i've been chatting with udovdh. his build of exactly the same kernel for exactly the same machine on fedora worked ok for me Mar 26 18:11:36 mine kernel with same config built on ubuntu wasn't able to boot Mar 26 18:12:04 althrought it's strange because compile toolchain isn't from ubuntu Mar 26 18:12:21 agreed... i would be happy to get it to work, but unhappy if i did not know why Mar 26 18:12:59 you bring up a valid point, though... i was just following the angstrom/OE build environment documentation - I do not believe it include Fedora8 Mar 26 18:13:05 but it does list ubuntu 8.04 Mar 26 18:13:23 (debian, actually - with reference to ubuntu) Mar 26 18:13:29 i was following the same environment documentation Mar 26 18:13:47 and the only kernel i was able to boot was ramdisk rescue Mar 26 18:13:57 and archaic familiar linux Mar 26 18:14:44 well, it is good to finally hear about a similar experience to mine. the binary/rootfs image on linux4sam boots fine on my dev board Mar 26 18:15:03 so perhaps the build environment is the key Mar 26 18:15:18 try build minimal environment on different distro Mar 26 18:15:31 fedora, plain debian, slackware or something similar Mar 26 18:15:52 thanks for the info...i'm going to go pull some iso's now Mar 26 18:17:22 finally i get managed why sometimes i cant set volume for mplayer! Mar 26 18:17:37 IDIOTIC OSS Mar 26 18:18:43 have any of you got some familiarity with the kexecboot images? Mar 26 18:19:15 i think i kind of know how it works, but im not too sure how its installed. do i flash, the nand, does it install like a regular angstrom? Mar 26 18:19:20 or is it just a kernel? Mar 26 18:20:13 dont know Mar 26 18:20:24 i've never used kexec Mar 26 18:21:29 there is an image.tgz which i find a bit strange (i.e. strange that its not zimage) Mar 26 18:22:02 and there seems to be an hdimage.tgz so that implies some sort of root filesystem Mar 26 19:37:34 any kexecboot on zaurus users in the place? Mar 26 19:51:19 HRH_H_Crab: plop Mar 26 19:51:48 HRH_H_Crab: i'm not very aware theses days, one of my tooth is broken :/ Mar 26 19:53:44 HRH_H_Crab: when you flash your Z with kexecboot, there is *no* hdimage and no gnu-tar Mar 26 19:54:04 HRH_H_Crab: only the kernel himseft and the updater.sh Mar 26 19:54:17 HRH_H_Crab: i took this one : http://www.zaurus.org.uk/cortez/ubuntu/download/zubuntu/updater.sh Mar 26 19:54:35 hey snarf Mar 26 19:54:41 that tooth sounds painful! Mar 26 19:54:47 i think im figuring this out slowly Mar 26 19:55:14 i forgot to do the kernel-cmdline bit, and im no expert on kernel commandline options, but im going to try again... Mar 26 19:55:17 :P Mar 26 19:57:45 wait 2 min and i give you my kernel-cmdline ;) Mar 26 19:58:06 (if my Wifi cf card goes up ^^) Mar 26 19:58:34 dont worry about it too much Mar 26 19:58:53 im going to have to get good at figuring them out if im to use kexecboot! ;P Mar 26 19:59:07 but ill pester you again if i cant figure it out! Mar 26 19:59:18 i use "console=ttyS0,115200n8 console=tty1 noinitrd fbcon=rotate:1 debug" Mar 26 19:59:24 woah... Mar 26 19:59:31 but 1st console w/ ttyS0 is useless on a SL3200 ;) Mar 26 19:59:32 thats a lot different than what i expected Mar 26 19:59:45 shouldnt it refer to the root device?! Mar 26 20:01:26 anyway, i have to flash angstrom again as i cant access anything atm... :P Mar 26 20:01:47 nope cause kexecboot find it ON the root device ;) Mar 26 20:02:16 the keecboot kernel is installable as the older way Mar 26 20:02:54 and when it is installed, the distro use their own zImage, kernel-cmdline ans image.nfo stored on their own /boot Mar 26 20:03:18 * Snarf6 may be long to respond, i have to cook ^^ Mar 26 20:03:22 np Mar 26 20:03:37 i should be doing that myself! ;P Mar 26 20:03:56 :) Mar 26 20:04:01 the best way to learn ;) Mar 26 20:05:38 no the cooking i meant ;P Mar 26 20:08:03 ahah Mar 26 20:08:50 my wife looks at me w/ a look which means "I'm hungry ^^" Mar 26 20:16:04 hmmm. Mar 26 20:16:09 its not working. Mar 26 20:16:23 what ive done, is taken a brand new c3200 Mar 26 20:16:31 i first flash a minimal gpe angstrom Mar 26 20:16:51 then in /boot i make kernel-cmdline with your commandline (but no quotes) Mar 26 20:17:01 then i flash the angstrom kexecboot installkit Mar 26 20:17:14 but on reboot i get a kernel panic - no init found... Mar 26 20:17:31 anyway, im going to get some food myself. Mar 26 20:17:34 ill try this later. Mar 26 20:18:00 mm ok Mar 26 20:18:22 the panic is after selecting in kexec or before ? Mar 26 20:18:23 is that roughly the right idea? Mar 26 20:18:28 heh Mar 26 20:18:33 i never see any kexecboot gui Mar 26 20:18:35 just that line Mar 26 20:19:22 mmmm Mar 26 20:19:26 i thought the problem was because kexecboot couldnt see any kernels with kernel-cmdline parameters, but maybe ive not even installed it properly Mar 26 20:19:41 you see the scan ? Mar 26 20:19:45 nope Mar 26 20:19:56 the part when kexecboot krn scan devices ? Mar 26 20:20:13 where have you found your kexecboot zImage ?. Mar 26 20:20:36 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/spitz/ Mar 26 20:20:45 but its named image Mar 26 20:20:54 not zImage Mar 26 20:21:05 perhaps i should rename it Mar 26 20:21:07 this one ? Mar 26 20:21:07 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/spitz/zImage-kexecboot-spitz.bin Mar 26 20:21:12 no Mar 26 20:21:16 the installkit Mar 26 20:21:24 hmmm Mar 26 20:21:33 ill copy that to the sd and try another flash Mar 26 20:22:58 mm ok Mar 26 20:23:17 if you use installkit you have to use it oldschool way Mar 26 20:23:30 if tyou want to use this install kit in kexec Mar 26 20:24:13 you have to install kexec and , unpack the hdimage on a SD part, move the installkit krn to SD part /boot Mar 26 20:24:26 (and kerle-cmd and inmage.nfo) Mar 26 20:24:44 if you use zImage for installkit as a kexec one .. er.. ;) EPIC FAIL ;) Mar 26 20:26:35 ooh Mar 26 20:26:49 somethings happening... Mar 26 20:27:11 i got the angstrom splash Mar 26 20:27:15 but i think its hung. Mar 26 20:27:17 hmmmm. Mar 26 20:27:55 oh well, ill go back to the cooking plan. Mar 26 20:28:13 aaah! Mar 26 20:28:18 no, it worked! Mar 26 20:28:38 but the problem is it cant boot the gpe-minimal stuff i installed to the microdrive. Mar 26 20:29:10 but i have the potential to fix that up now if i can get something working on the sd card Mar 26 20:29:20 as i guess i can boot from that, and then look at the microdrive! Mar 26 20:29:24 \o/ Mar 26 20:31:03 ^ Mar 26 20:31:06 ^^ Mar 26 20:31:57 i wonder why it didnt like that though... Mar 26 20:32:42 all i have on /dev/hda1 is a standard install of gpe-minimal and in /boot (which had a zImage already) i made a kernel-cmdline with what you pasted earlier Mar 26 20:36:18 strange Mar 26 22:43:53 Snarf6: i have zubuntu booting from sd! Mar 26 22:43:55 :D Mar 26 22:44:07 nice Mar 26 22:44:09 now just got to figure out how to get angstrom on the microdrive Mar 26 22:44:18 thanks mimecar Mar 26 22:44:47 do it looks a "stable desktop" ? Mar 26 22:45:01 heh Mar 26 22:45:09 ;) Mar 26 22:45:14 its rebooting following a fsck Mar 26 22:45:20 maybe i spoke too soon! ;P Mar 26 22:45:29 xDD Mar 26 22:45:58 i have an opie on my hdd, i installed it oldschool, then, install kexecboot and modfifie opie /boot Mar 26 22:46:13 and remenber, kill tskeys ;) Mar 26 22:47:22 mimecar: tbh i anticipate using ubuntu mainly in console, and angstrom / gpe or gui Mar 26 22:47:28 but i'll see how it goes! Mar 26 22:47:39 I use an old version of angstrom Mar 26 22:47:43 with basic programs now Mar 26 22:49:29 Zubuntu is still quite slow on SL3200 Mar 26 22:49:37 dr17 run faster ;) Mar 26 22:49:46 what's the desktop ? Mar 26 22:50:03 lxde Mar 26 22:50:36 is better than matchobx ? Mar 26 22:50:47 it's gnome-like ;) Mar 26 22:50:53 * Snarf6 don"t like gnome Mar 26 22:51:09 Snarf6: the other option is opie.. Mar 26 22:51:20 there are no more options for hanhelds desktop Mar 26 22:51:36 matchbox and opie are good Mar 26 22:51:49 heheh Mar 26 22:51:50 E17 is quite faster too Mar 26 22:51:52 ;) Mar 26 22:51:53 i dont like kde ;P Mar 26 22:51:59 Zubuntu -> http://www.dahwa.fr/dotclear/index.php?post/2009/03/16/Ubuntu-sur-le-Borzoi Mar 26 22:52:08 but i am actually tempted to try opie because i heard it has some very nice apps Mar 26 22:52:10 boot from SD and this is the fist boot ;) Mar 26 22:52:28 +r Mar 26 22:52:46 i just loaded the zubuntu gui Mar 26 22:52:48 its pretty slow Mar 26 22:52:52 kill tskeys ;) Mar 26 22:52:55 just like it is on debian on my other z Mar 26 22:53:10 there is a post about it on oesf Mar 26 22:53:13 well, Snarf6 my main mission is to get angstrom on the microdrive. Mar 26 22:53:24 and thats where things are a bit strange. Mar 26 22:53:44 there is no /boot on /dev/hda1 Mar 26 22:53:53 but im sure there was one before i flashed the kexecboot Mar 26 22:54:02 mm weird Mar 26 22:55:17 aaah Mar 26 22:55:28 it looks like it replaced everything there with the kexec boot stuff. Mar 26 22:55:57 hmmm. Mar 26 22:57:02 o.k. Mar 26 22:57:09 i need to rethink this. Mar 26 22:57:42 ill make a tiny partition for kexecboot, then i'll try and install the angstrom to another partition. Mar 26 22:58:00 are there angstrom images for 2008 ? Mar 26 22:58:15 but thats work for tomorrow, first i'll celebrate with a beer! Mar 26 22:58:24 because ive made some damn good progress Mar 26 22:59:19 mimecar: yeah Mar 26 22:59:28 id try that funky web based builder thingy Mar 26 22:59:38 that koen has put together Mar 26 22:59:46 must have a beast of a machine for that Mar 26 22:59:47 what's that ? Mar 26 22:59:59 link is in the topic! ;) Mar 26 23:00:30 ok :P Mar 26 23:00:34 kexecboot is clearly the way forward Mar 26 23:00:39 for trying stuff like that. Mar 26 23:01:17 HRH_H_Crab, yeah I had issues with that image builder, none of the images it built worked for me any thoughts? Mar 26 23:01:41 Storm|wrk: ive never tried them Mar 26 23:01:49 but i have played with angstrom a fair bit Mar 26 23:01:56 and its pretty bleeding edge sometimes Mar 26 23:02:18 ahh ok, and what exactly is the difference between the stable images and the kexecboot images? Mar 26 23:02:46 well, the stable images are like a normal distro Mar 26 23:02:54 the kexecboot thing is really funky Mar 26 23:03:08 im still feeling my way around it, but basically its a bootloader Mar 26 23:03:21 similar to altboot ? Mar 26 23:03:22 it looks for bootable partitions on sd / cf cards Mar 26 23:03:28 sort of Mar 26 23:03:52 ive never tried altboot, iirc it doesnt actually boot a kernel does it? Mar 26 23:03:59 it just changes the root device? Mar 26 23:04:01 ok... so you need a rootfs on a partition and the kexec image is like "/boot" Mar 26 23:04:03 true Mar 26 23:04:18 what you do, is you have a partition on the cf or sd card Mar 26 23:04:30 the root filesystem is on there, and you make a /boot Mar 26 23:04:33 I use altboot to boot my system on sd Mar 26 23:04:37 it's a loopgile Mar 26 23:04:55 in there goes the kernel and a couple of files to supply commandline args and some nice labels Mar 26 23:05:16 kexecboot shows you a gui, scans for such partitions and you just pick which one you want to boot. Mar 26 23:05:51 ahh so if you use one of the stable rootfs's on the sd card you'd use kexec boot to load it Mar 26 23:05:56 it can even boot stuff from nand apparently! Mar 26 23:06:00 yes Mar 26 23:06:09 Storm|wrk: possibly, but i wouldnt do that! Mar 26 23:06:28 id put the stable on the microdrive and save the sd card for the crazy unstable stuff! ;) Mar 26 23:06:40 (but thats just me) Mar 26 23:06:53 you could do what you suggest. Mar 26 23:06:55 Heh I have an iPAQ h2200 no microdrive in there Mar 26 23:07:16 its got a 64MB rom, that I have yet to reflash :P Mar 26 23:07:59 i have two c3200s (i thought id broken one, and bought another - what an idiot) Mar 26 23:08:21 what i plan to do, is get the new one working nicely Mar 26 23:08:30 and then im going to try some insane stuff with the old one Mar 26 23:08:33 the SD or CF cards are my only options, no way a full rootfs in the 64mb of space Mar 26 23:08:44 ive never played with pdaxrom or whatever its called Mar 26 23:08:49 well I g2g cya Mar 26 23:08:51 i fancy getting some use from the nand... Mar 26 23:08:55 laters Storm|wrk Mar 26 23:09:58 HRH_H_Crab: use the cacko ANGSTrom for NAND fun :-) Mar 26 23:10:33 hmmm Mar 26 23:10:41 ive heard of cacko but isnt it ancient? Mar 26 23:10:53 really :P ? Mar 26 23:11:17 HRH_H_Crab: yeah, but ages ago I wrote instructions how to kexec cacko on 3200 Mar 26 23:11:24 HRH_H_Crab: because I was bored Mar 26 23:11:39 XorA: i think i might have found those earlier Mar 26 23:11:49 when i was trying to figure out how to get kexecboot working. Mar 26 23:12:10 i think i might offer my services as how to writer for kexecboot if i can get my head properly round it Mar 26 23:12:31 that little bit of spiel under the dev part of the wiki is not much more than a teaser! Mar 26 23:12:41 i would never have got as far as i have without nagging Snarf6 for hel! Mar 26 23:12:44 *help Mar 26 23:13:48 HRH_H_Crab: kexecboot is real easy, just flash the zImage-kexecboot file Mar 26 23:13:59 gni ? Mar 26 23:14:06 ah ;) Mar 26 23:14:21 kexec is damn good stuff Mar 26 23:15:03 * XorA has kexecboot on the tosa and collie Mar 26 23:15:09 XorA: its pretty easy just wasnt sure how it worked. Mar 26 23:15:25 thats how i managed to overwrite the gpe-minimal install i had put on there. Mar 26 23:15:31 HRH_H_Crab: just looks for /boot/zImage on all partitions in can mount Mar 26 23:16:46 so i think what i need to do is re-partition the microdrive to make a smaller partition for kexecboot, then boot ubuntu from sd Mar 26 23:16:47 also saved me hours debugging tosa kernel :) Mar 26 23:17:00 then i can make another partition for angstrom, and copy it there via cf Mar 26 23:17:22 HRH_H_Crab: kexecboot goes in the NAND kernel partition, partition all the other drivers however you like Mar 26 23:17:31 aaah Mar 26 23:17:40 my kexecboot is on /dev/hda1 Mar 26 23:17:43 HRH_H_Crab: kexecboot is a kernel + initrd Mar 26 23:17:45 how did i mange that?! Mar 26 23:18:28 hmmm Mar 26 23:19:10 i took the angstrom kexecboot installkit image Mar 26 23:19:24 and tried to install it like a normal angstrom to the microdrive Mar 26 23:19:52 but it woudlnt work until Snarf6 pointed me to the kexecboot kernel image Mar 26 23:20:01 should i have done a nand flash thingy? Mar 26 23:21:02 see thats why its nailed the gpe-minimal install. Mar 26 23:21:10 its overwritten it with kexecboot Mar 26 23:21:18 you should have flashed the zImage-kexecboot then untarred the rootfs onto any partitiong Mar 26 23:22:10 yeah but flash as in hold o.k. and then power on, select option 4? Mar 26 23:22:16 or nand flash? Mar 26 23:22:23 (ive never ever done a nand flash) Mar 26 23:23:43 HRH_H_Crab: isnt hold ok option 4 nand flash? Mar 26 23:23:55 i dunno Mar 26 23:24:12 anyway whatever you do to make updater.sh run and flash zImage Mar 26 23:24:23 all i know is that on the first partition of my microdrive is like a mini root filesystem, Mar 26 23:24:29 with init symlinked to kexecboot Mar 26 23:24:36 you want just updater.sh and zImage.bin which is kexecboot on the cf/sd you use Mar 26 23:24:38 and im guessing that you are implying that should all be on nand Mar 26 23:24:54 HRH_H_Crab: I think you have mixed up kexecboot and altboot Mar 26 23:25:00 no Mar 26 23:25:11 but i had more than that on the kexecboot installkit image Mar 26 23:25:17 kexecboot is a single zImage.bin file, nothing else Mar 26 23:25:21 there was a hdimage.tgz on there too Mar 26 23:25:26 which may be that other shit Mar 26 23:25:37 yeah Mar 26 23:25:40 i think i get it now. Mar 26 23:25:46 I think the installkit stuff may be broken since kexecboot Mar 26 23:25:56 probably wraps up the wrong stuff Mar 26 23:25:58 im going to start gain Mar 26 23:26:26 * XorA doesnt have a 3200 any more so I cant just give you the right files :-) Mar 26 23:26:41 i think i have all the right files here, Mar 26 23:26:56 i just need less of them on the card! ;P Mar 26 23:27:01 yeah Mar 26 23:27:21 you'll probably need to put a rootfs on SD card and use that to fixup the microdrive Mar 26 23:27:28 yeah Mar 26 23:27:35 i have a working zubuntu so thats cool Mar 26 23:28:03 cool Mar 26 23:28:16 is that zubuntu using the optimised arm builds? Mar 26 23:30:00 i dont know Mar 26 23:30:10 the really interesting thing about zubuntu, Mar 26 23:30:37 is that apparently cortez has given all his z specific bits to canonical Mar 26 23:30:43 to fold in to ubuntu Mar 26 23:30:56 i think its 99% just standard ubuntu arm Mar 26 23:37:57 its looking good so far Mar 26 23:38:13 i wasnt quick enough to remove the sd card though Mar 26 23:42:57 bah Mar 26 23:43:08 zubuntu is now making me change root password each time i log in Mar 26 23:43:22 i had this before with debian on z and i cannot remember how i forced the bastard to submit Mar 27 01:43:36 HRH_H_Crab, are you there? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 27 02:59:57 2009