**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 18 02:59:57 2009 Apr 18 07:58:33 Crofton i could lend you mine :P or if it helps with me :P **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 18 09:02:14 2009 Apr 18 10:05:59 Hey chaps. Apr 18 10:07:01 Can someone point me in the right direction? I've downloaded a package of the software I want to put on my SAM9-L9261. What do I do to create a binary image? Apr 18 10:10:10 actually, I've had an idea. I'm going to just unpack it onto a USB key formatted to EXT3, then fiddle with the currently installed stuff Apr 18 10:10:20 Or not Apr 18 10:10:22 Wait thats stupid Apr 18 15:12:39 Right. I have a root dir unpacked onto my linux thinkpad. Can someone point me in the direction for the magic spell that turns it into a jffs image? Apr 18 15:14:09 I got my root filesystem from http://amethyst.openembedded.net/~koen/narcissus/ and the Atmel CPU in my devkit uses a windows app to poke the jffs and bootloader and such into it. Fail. I've now got to work out where I'm going to get a winputer. Apr 18 15:30:17 you might try to run it in wine Apr 18 16:20:44 Sketch, meh. Wine only just about runs spotify reliably Apr 18 16:56:14 hi everyone. does someone know how angstrom decides which kernel too boot? I didn't find any bootloader config ala lilo or grub Apr 18 16:56:50 I upgraded using ipkg update/upgrade and it installed 2.6.24, but still boots 2.6.23 for some reason Apr 18 16:59:45 remove the old kernel? Apr 18 17:00:12 IDK I never got that far, my device never boots more than once. Apr 18 17:00:33 nah removing the old kernel would be more a stupid idea :) Apr 18 17:00:49 I kinda remember something that ipkg cant handle kernel upgrades... Apr 18 17:01:11 so do I have to reflash my device to get the new kernel running? Apr 18 17:03:57 I really shold flash a boot loader on my device but I'm afraid to brick, though I do have two of the same device. Apr 18 17:09:31 found something in a forum Apr 18 17:09:34 "Place only zImage.bin and updater.sh on the CD/SD card and only the kernel will be written. Apr 18 17:09:34 so basically ipkg upgrade to do kernel modules, reboot and reflash kernel, reboot and all should work. " Apr 18 17:09:52 time to break my PDA then! :-P Apr 18 17:10:34 now I only have to find out where the new zImage is Apr 18 17:10:44 /boot would have been to simple I guess Apr 18 17:42:08 broonie, can you please ACK the aSoC driver so Eric can merge it? thanks Apr 18 18:04:11 hm where do I find ipkg-link in angstrom? Apr 18 18:08:45 * meebey_ used the PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH hack for now Apr 18 18:26:13 hm found that the FAQ says that ipkg-link is causing too much issues, how come ipkg still supports -dest then? Apr 18 18:26:45 most my the postinst scripts failed now because ipkg-link isnt in place and I am trying to fix that by adding symlinks were needed Apr 18 18:28:00 * meebey_ 's PDA has only 32mb for / and that's valuable memory at the same time Apr 18 18:30:49 meebey_: you can have your system on the sd Apr 18 18:30:59 then, you'll get more space Apr 18 18:31:03 mimecar: on cf too? Apr 18 18:31:11 yes Apr 18 18:31:14 ah cool Apr 18 18:31:18 didnt know that Apr 18 18:31:23 on hanheld memory you must install altboot package Apr 18 18:31:28 so I should reinstall then and use the fullblown version Apr 18 18:31:38 you don't need it Apr 18 18:31:42 my cf has 4gb and is fast Apr 18 18:31:54 unlike sd :-P Apr 18 18:32:26 mimecar: well I have to install that altboot flavor, no? Apr 18 18:32:31 its a tosa btw Apr 18 18:32:44 yes Apr 18 18:32:57 altboot package + one system on the cf Apr 18 18:33:09 you can build image on pc or on your hanheld Apr 18 18:33:22 ic Apr 18 18:33:54 my system was just installed and onyl trimmed down, so reflash using altboot is pretty simpler Apr 18 18:34:10 s/pretty/probably/ Apr 18 18:34:10 altboot is a packege Apr 18 18:34:15 you must install it only Apr 18 18:34:25 after, on boot you will be able to boot from cf Apr 18 18:34:26 that will not unfuck my install though Apr 18 18:34:35 hint: symlinks, ipkg-link Apr 18 18:34:47 broken package installs, etc Apr 18 18:34:53 there'll be 2 systems: on internal and on cf Apr 18 18:35:04 hm ic Apr 18 18:35:14 so I could trim the boot system even more down Apr 18 18:35:23 its about 10MB now Apr 18 18:53:02 mimecar: can I put hardware initialization such as wifi (wlan-ng) also on the cf-system? Apr 18 18:53:21 you "move" all the system to the cf Apr 18 18:53:42 yes, but I dont know how the altboot is implemented :) Apr 18 18:53:43 after you can add all the packages you need Apr 18 18:53:50 me neither Apr 18 18:53:52 so some hardware stuff might be not available... Apr 18 18:54:07 if /dev things are missing for example Apr 18 18:54:28 youhave the same system ad internal flash Apr 18 18:55:11 its one system? not one with altboot and a second with the real applications and stuff? Apr 18 18:55:39 do you know loop files on linux ? Apr 18 18:56:02 loop files not, but loopback filesystem Apr 18 18:56:14 you have Apr 18 18:56:25 internal memory => one system + altboot Apr 18 18:56:36 external => one file with all the system Apr 18 18:56:48 ah ic Apr 18 18:56:49 both memory are not equal Apr 18 18:56:57 both systems Apr 18 19:31:46 I wonder if altboot will delete the data on the exising cf partition Apr 18 19:33:27 meebey_: you select a file on the cf Apr 18 19:33:31 no data is lost Apr 18 19:33:45 (do a backup as security) Apr 18 19:33:48 mimecar-away: even if I say "direct install"? Apr 18 19:33:52 I am doing a backup now :) Apr 18 19:34:02 dont want to loose my wlan config :-P Apr 18 19:34:10 direct install only copy data Apr 18 19:34:33 will it ask for which directory? Apr 18 19:34:50 also I have 2 partitions on the cf Apr 18 19:34:59 for image mode it didnt ask which partition Apr 18 19:35:12 meebey_: i don't know Apr 18 19:35:26 i use a loop file, it's easy forme Apr 18 19:35:28 I will try and move it if needed later Apr 18 19:35:47 I have 2 partitions because of the stupid flash tools Apr 18 19:36:02 a) not supporting non-vfat b) partitions bigger some small size Apr 18 19:36:49 ah it uses probably /media/cf defined on the main system Apr 18 19:37:06 and I changed that to hda2 already, so it will probably go there Apr 18 19:38:36 meebey_: create a small system with the basic and check it Apr 18 19:53:12 lol a bug Apr 18 19:53:27 :P ? Apr 18 19:53:38 Remove old directories? [Y|n] Apr 18 19:53:44 I enter n Apr 18 19:53:48 and it will ask again Apr 18 19:53:53 so I have to say y, eh Apr 18 19:54:19 good that I copied the stuff Apr 18 19:54:26 meebey_: create the system on one file Apr 18 19:54:46 no, that means I have to plan how much space I want to use for the system Apr 18 19:54:53 thats the big downside of images Apr 18 19:54:53 ok Apr 18 19:55:15 there is nothing important on it Apr 18 19:55:25 only a broken debian install, that uses a different arm ABI Apr 18 19:55:30 and thus is useless anyhow Apr 18 19:57:30 dinner's time Apr 18 19:58:36 enjoy it and thanks for the help so far Apr 18 20:14:41 Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on Apr 18 20:14:51 /dev/hda2 3.7G 573.9M 2.9G 16% / Apr 18 20:14:57 mimecar-away: perfect, thanks a ton :) Apr 18 20:17:31 meebey_: re Apr 18 20:17:41 meebey_: did you got it ? Apr 18 20:21:57 mimecar: its now how I wanted it Apr 18 20:22:10 nice Apr 18 20:22:16 wifi setup is on the cf Apr 18 20:22:18 you can forget ipkg link now Apr 18 20:22:23 yeah Apr 18 20:22:47 I installed the altboot image though because I broke the old one too much Apr 18 20:23:05 ok Apr 18 20:46:05 Hi Apr 18 20:46:19 do you have any images for Collie (Zaurus SL-5500) Apr 18 20:46:21 that work ? Apr 18 20:46:39 with openzaurus yes Apr 18 20:48:51 there is no Angstrom image? Apr 18 20:49:04 there's something Apr 18 20:49:13 but i don't know if it woks ok Apr 18 20:49:15 where should I look? Apr 18 20:49:53 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/collie/ Apr 18 20:50:01 and how to go about and install from CF? Apr 18 20:50:27 you must download the ***-installkit and uncompress it on your cf Apr 18 20:50:31 on root folder Apr 18 20:51:01 and then follow the recovery mode install instructions from ? Apr 18 20:51:04 Sharp * Apr 18 20:51:15 recovery mode ? Apr 18 20:51:21 C + D + reset Apr 18 20:51:38 you don't need use the bios menu Apr 18 20:51:39 yes, that. Apr 18 20:51:52 ok. Mine is going into the BIOS menu on bootup. Is that OK? Apr 18 20:53:07 !logs Apr 18 20:53:08 Channel logs for #angstrom are archived at: Apr 18 20:53:08 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23angstrom Apr 18 20:53:10 Live-logs are available at Apr 18 20:53:11 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23angstrom.livelog Apr 18 20:53:13 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Apr 18 20:53:21 ?? help-logs Apr 18 20:53:23 help-logs[1]: Available commands are: !logs !pauselog !logstatus Apr 18 20:53:24 help-logs[2]: !enablelog, !disablelog Apr 18 20:53:25 help-logs[3]: !stamp (Add timestamp to channel logfile) Apr 18 20:53:33 Gnutoo: you need something? Apr 18 20:54:02 I'm also looking Apr 18 20:54:11 if I can find theses instructions Apr 18 20:54:33 [4:50pm] mimecar: you must download the ***-installkit and uncompress it on your cf Apr 18 20:54:33 [4:50pm] mimecar: on root folder Apr 18 20:54:42 then C+D+reset Apr 18 20:54:44 he said Apr 18 20:55:02 Balrog_: 22:54 here :) Apr 18 20:55:20 lol, I'm in the EDT region :) Apr 18 20:55:45 there is http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=23825&pid=165422&mode=threaded&start=#entry165422 Apr 18 20:55:46 ah ok Apr 18 20:56:02 so do it Apr 18 20:56:39 so collie is not OK?? Apr 18 20:56:57 then I'd be stuck with stock (2.4 kernel) or openzaurus Apr 18 20:57:01 Balrog_: i didn't check if that image worked Apr 18 20:57:03 test it Apr 18 20:57:27 ok. Apr 18 20:57:33 I have to find my CF reader :/ Apr 18 20:58:25 Balrog_: have you oz on collie now ? Apr 18 20:58:44 no, I have nothing on it. Apr 18 20:58:49 ok Apr 18 20:58:56 it's totally blank (goes into BIOS menu) Apr 18 20:59:12 lol bios...it's called bootloader I think Apr 18 20:59:17 us c + d.. instead bios menu Apr 18 20:59:41 OK. Apr 18 20:59:47 I need to find my CF reader though :( Apr 18 21:14:23 mimecar: preparing CF card now (found the reader :) ) Apr 18 21:14:44 cool Apr 18 22:18:01 cool, I found scummvm images on the sd card, time for some dot :) Apr 18 22:21:56 so why would the light come on for 1sec and then go out when trying to install angstrom? Apr 18 22:22:25 I'm trying http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/collie/ Apr 18 22:22:36 Angstrom-opie-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r9-collie-installkit.tgz Apr 18 22:48:15 anyone here????? Apr 18 23:25:25 is there a DE for angstrom that uses less memory than GPE? Apr 18 23:25:35 5MB for a clock applet is a bit hefty... Apr 18 23:25:44 and 6MB for a login page with 2 entry fields Apr 18 23:25:51 Angstrom doesn't install on 5500 Apr 18 23:26:12 collie is 5500? Apr 18 23:26:19 the lights light up for 5s or so then go out; on reboot it can't find the rootfs Apr 18 23:26:27 yes. Apr 18 23:26:36 good that I have tosa then :-P Apr 18 23:26:46 which is that? Apr 18 23:26:49 6000 Apr 18 23:26:57 ah. you're lucky Apr 18 23:29:32 Hey chaps Apr 18 23:29:50 Getting lots of this: Apr 18 23:29:53 Downloading http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/all/Packages.gz Apr 18 23:29:53 wget: server returned error 404: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found Apr 18 23:30:01 Where did the packages go! :( Apr 18 23:56:53 I can't seem to get the zaurus to talk to PC via usb ethernet Apr 18 23:56:56 what's going on? Apr 19 00:04:25 Does anyone know what happened to the feeds? Apr 19 00:06:50 no idea :( Apr 19 00:15:50 Who's incharge of the feeds? :/ Apr 19 00:16:00 I'm going to get some dinner. Beans and pastie sounds good Apr 19 00:31:31 wow, 10mb more memory available when using opie Apr 19 00:49:13 which key is to switch to different vts? Apr 19 00:49:48 opie and gpe running at the same time is really "interesting" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Apr 19 02:59:57 2009