**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 02 02:59:58 2009
Sep 02 12:42:23 <gentooma> hi, I'm looking for something like networkmanager but for the console - is there anything like this in the repos? as I can't connect to my wpa2 network :&
Sep 02 12:56:55 <Skyld> Hi, wondering how I produce some sort of debug output from haret into a file. My load just seems to stop at "Jumping to kernel"
Sep 02 14:27:37 <Skyld> Does base-image produce any kind of kernel output whatsoever or is that only console-image?
Sep 02 16:35:51 <Skyld> Can someone help me with not getting any kernel output? Haretlog ends with "go go go", assuming that it's started and it shows "Jumping to kernel" and ends there. QEMU just doesn't show anything at all
Sep 02 18:30:35 <lisandropm> is there a way to know wich package depends on some other package?
Sep 02 18:30:44 <lisandropm> namely, I want to avoid avahi from installing
Sep 02 18:40:01 <bluelightning> lisandropm: I think it's something like --whatrequires ?
Sep 02 18:40:53 <lisandropm> bluelightning: using bitbake? I'll try
Sep 02 18:42:31 <bluelightning> oh right, no I was referring to opkg
Sep 02 18:43:13 <bluelightning> I don't think bitbake provides anything like that, however a grep search of the recipes directory should give you the answers you need
Sep 02 18:43:19 <bluelightning> (grep -r)
Sep 02 18:43:47 <lisandropm> it should, but it didn't :-(
Sep 02 18:43:54 <lisandropm> I get to task-distro-base
Sep 02 18:44:46 <bluelightning> grep -r avahi recipes/* | grep DEPENDS seems to work here
Sep 02 18:45:11 <lisandropm> let me re try :-)
Sep 02 18:46:01 <lisandropm> oh, yes, that's how I got to task-base
Sep 02 18:46:38 <bluelightning> I'm letting it run fully now
Sep 02 18:46:46 <lisandropm> ah, iI forgot oprofile
Sep 02 18:47:08 <lisandropm> which is not being build
Sep 02 18:48:10 <bluelightning> lisandropm: http://pastebin.ca/1551784
Sep 02 18:48:16 <bluelightning> that's what I get
Sep 02 18:48:36 <bluelightning> although my tree is not up-to-date though
Sep 02 18:49:12 <lisandropm> my tree is angstrom-stable 2009
Sep 02 18:49:39 <lisandropm> aaah, gvfs
Sep 02 18:50:04 <lisandropm> nop, not built either :S
Sep 02 18:53:51 <lisandropm> yeap, something add gnome...
Sep 02 19:27:53 <gremlin[it]> hi Crofton, 
Sep 02 19:28:12 <gremlin[it]> Crofton, after purging tmp and rebuild all a uImage came out ;) ... 
Sep 02 19:28:25 <Skyld> What do I do if usbnet isn't working properly on the device?
Sep 02 19:28:53 <gremlin[it]> Skyld, what mean "not working properly" ?
Sep 02 19:29:13 <Skyld> Well, I edited the network init script to output "ifconfig" at startup and there is only lo listed
Sep 02 19:29:17 <Skyld> There is no eth0, eth1 or usb0, etc
Sep 02 19:29:23 <Skyld> Making it quite difficult to ssh in and do anything
Sep 02 19:29:44 <gremlin[it]> is usb_net (or the right module) loaded ? 
Sep 02 19:30:08 <Skyld> The device identifies itself to the computer as cdc_ether or so, but I don't know much more
Sep 02 19:30:45 <gremlin[it]> try to do 'ifconfig -a' 
Sep 02 19:31:43 <gremlin[it]> so you can see also non initialized interfaces 
Sep 02 19:31:55 <Skyld> Okay I will restart the device with ifconfig -a in the script
Sep 02 19:32:49 <gremlin[it]> ok 
Sep 02 19:33:51 <Skyld> It lists two devices called ":0" with no useful information, "usb0" that had more lines but it has since scrolled up, and lo
Sep 02 19:34:16 <Skyld> Oh usb0 is there but not UP, and has no INET linse
Sep 02 19:34:19 <Skyld> "lines"
Sep 02 19:34:31 <gremlin[it]> so usb0 is present but not initialized ;) 
Sep 02 19:34:49 <Skyld> Hehe okay where do we go from here
Sep 02 19:34:59 <Skyld> Is it reasonable to ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 and then up it?
Sep 02 19:35:04 <Skyld> Or is the problem deeper than that?
Sep 02 19:35:42 <gremlin[it]> no should be sufficient 'ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 up' 
Sep 02 19:35:52 <Skyld> Awesome. I'll give that a shot. Thanks
Sep 02 19:36:03 <gremlin[it]> you welcome 
Sep 02 20:11:19 <Skyld> Hmm even with ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 up, the computer is still not really finding a connection
Sep 02 20:11:29 <Skyld> I have tried in Linux, OS X and Windows now
Sep 02 21:04:28 <soatola> Skyld: Have loaded usbnet on the linux side?
Sep 02 21:04:56 <soatola> so that it also hase usb0 up
Sep 02 21:04:57 <Skyld> soatola: Yes. I consider myself defeated for now, I think I shall go to bed and sleep on it :|
Sep 02 21:05:41 <soatola> Ok just so you know you do need usb0 up on bother the device and the computer you want to connect to.
Sep 02 21:07:25 <Skyld> I am starting to think it's actually a problem with the usb driver itself, but I shall look into it tomorrow I think
Sep 02 21:07:35 <soatola> NP
Sep 02 21:07:48 <Skyld> Thanks though
Sep 02 22:07:08 <gentooma> hi - I have a poodle (zaurus sl-5600) here running angstrom-x11, - how can I kill the X session?
Sep 02 22:44:42 <ant__> gentooma: no idea on collie/poodle but on clamshells is ctrl + alt + back (first two are japanese keys)
Sep 02 22:44:58 <gentooma> no ctrl, no alt :)
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 03 02:59:57 2009