**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 08 02:59:57 2010
Jan 08 07:06:50 <Aditya1> anyone around
Jan 08 07:06:50 <Aditya1> ?
Jan 08 12:34:48 <ericm> anyone still has the reference to the Lineo released 2.4.20 kernel source code for zaurus?
Jan 08 13:59:35 <mimecar> hi
Jan 08 14:27:27 <ufoheli> can somebody help me with mini2440 problem?
Jan 08 14:27:44 <mimecar> what's mini2440?
Jan 08 14:29:03 <ufoheli> board with ARM920t, 3.5"LCD and 128 FLASH, I have baked Angstrom from OE for mini2440 target including QT4.4.3 from OE, works fine, I have problem with QT settings which I suspect might be related to underlaying kernel or settings
Jan 08 14:38:41 <ant_work> ericm: I don't have the link offhand, the old one seems dead (http://more.sbc.co.jp/slj/download)
Jan 08 14:41:37 <ant_work> something is in the mirrors: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/pdaxrom/src/
Jan 08 15:24:59 <Railgun> Hi, I've been attempting to install the latest build of angstrom on my sl-c1000 but I'm having some trouble. It doesn't get past the angstrom splash screen and then drops me to console
Jan 08 15:25:11 <Railgun> the image built in 2007 works just fine though
Jan 08 15:26:00 <Railgun> also, im getting a "unknown hz value assume 100" error message after i'm dropped to console
Jan 08 15:26:56 <Railgun> is akita still supported?
Jan 08 15:27:44 <ant_work> Railgun: yes, we are testing 2.6.33-rc3 on zaurus clamshells
Jan 08 15:28:08 <ant_work> which image did you install?
Jan 08 15:28:20 <ant_work> there are any recent images :/
Jan 08 15:29:23 <Railgun> stable, regular, udev, x11
Jan 08 15:30:37 <ant_work> you mean Narcissus
Jan 08 15:31:02 <Railgun> theres an image still prebuilt in 2007 which I found on your site, which works but is a little buggy and old
Jan 08 15:31:05 <Railgun> yeah Narcissus
Jan 08 15:31:31 <Railgun> ill be happy to be a tester for you
Jan 08 15:31:34 <ant_work> ok, if you are here, you already installed kexecboot I suppose
Jan 08 15:31:51 <Railgun> i'm using altboot
Jan 08 15:32:01 <ant_work> oh, the old way
Jan 08 15:32:03 <ant_work> np
Jan 08 15:32:17 <Railgun> soz, not been in the game for about 2 years
Jan 08 15:32:27 <Railgun> kexecboot better?
Jan 08 15:32:49 <ant_work> the Narcissus images have still some quirck...last time I tried these were stuck at the initscript
Jan 08 15:33:07 <Railgun> ah, i see
Jan 08 15:33:22 <ant_work> just try to add rw to the commandline
Jan 08 15:33:26 <ant_work> for the moment
Jan 08 15:34:07 <ant_work> btw, unknow Hz is harmless. It's procps
Jan 08 15:34:19 <Railgun> ah i see
Jan 08 15:34:23 <ant_work> not updated (in busybox I think)
Jan 08 15:36:00 <Railgun> apologies for the silly question, but where do i add rw? and what does this option enable/disable?
Jan 08 15:37:44 <ant_work> I can't remember altboot..never used. it should have a command line somewhere stating
Jan 08 15:37:50 <ant_work> e.g. root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw 
Jan 08 15:38:31 <Railgun> ill have a look, sec
Jan 08 15:39:21 <Railgun> in the advance menu, i have: BOOT FROM NFS, INIT=/bin/sh, and INSTALL ROOTFS FROM tar.gz
Jan 08 15:39:29 <Railgun> hmm
Jan 08 15:40:23 <Railgun> i think i may have to install kexecboot
Jan 08 15:40:27 <ant_work> are you still using 2.4 kernels? If not, just flash a kexecboot kernel
Jan 08 15:40:29 <ant_work> :)
Jan 08 15:40:44 <Railgun> yeah, i think thats the best thing to do
Jan 08 15:41:23 <Railgun> I need a larger, faster sd card, do you know where i can find kexecboot/angstrom compatibilty?
Jan 08 15:41:49 <ant_work> then fiddle with the cmomandline of your image (in /boot/boot.cfg )
Jan 08 15:41:49 <Railgun> I have a 4gb transcend but no luck, maybe kexecboot with 2.6 kernel may help
Jan 08 15:41:56 <ant_work> I booted 4gb
Jan 08 15:42:13 <ant_work> with 7 partitions ;)
Jan 08 15:42:38 <Railgun> wow
Jan 08 15:42:39 <Railgun> nice
Jan 08 15:42:50 <Railgun> now i'm excited
Jan 08 15:42:52 <Railgun> :)
Jan 08 15:42:56 <ant_work> for this SDHC cards any modern kernel is ok
Jan 08 15:43:04 <ant_work> after 2.6.24
Jan 08 15:43:14 <Railgun> oh, fantastic
Jan 08 15:43:38 <Railgun> so what's the largest supported? is there a list I can check?
Jan 08 15:43:54 <ant_work> hm..perhaps in OESF forums
Jan 08 15:44:10 <ant_work> iirc somebody tried a 8GB too
Jan 08 15:44:25 <Railgun> good to know
Jan 08 15:44:33 <Railgun> ok, just going to flash kexecboot
Jan 08 15:44:38 <Railgun> thx for your help
Jan 08 15:44:42 <Railgun> i'll report back
Jan 08 15:44:42 <ant_work> np
Jan 08 15:46:05 <Railgun> is it okay to use kexecboot image from: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/kexecboot/ ?
Jan 08 15:46:18 <ant_work> hm..it's a bit old but should work
Jan 08 15:46:39 <Railgun> are there already pre-built images for akita?
Jan 08 15:47:03 <Railgun> or do I have to build my own?
Jan 08 15:47:13 <ant_work> ehh
Jan 08 15:47:17 <Railgun> for kexecboot that is
Jan 08 15:48:23 <ant_work> bah, if you have time you could build your image
Jan 08 15:48:36 <ant_work> you have to build the toolchain anyway
Jan 08 15:48:41 <ant_work> for kexecboot
Jan 08 15:48:42 <Railgun> I can't find any recent images
Jan 08 15:48:45 <Railgun> oh
Jan 08 15:48:52 <ant_work> http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2009-February/002898.html
Jan 08 15:49:03 <ant_work> ^^ lead devs decided to stop shipping images
Jan 08 15:49:41 <Railgun> lol maybe it will take a few days before I can setup my dev environment :(
Jan 08 15:51:39 <ant_work> try this one for the mom
Jan 08 15:51:42 <ant_work> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/kexecboot/
Jan 08 15:51:48 <Railgun> ant_work : is there a wiki or some tutorial to build this?
Jan 08 15:51:53 <Railgun> ok, ill do that
Jan 08 15:53:31 <ant_work> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
Jan 08 15:53:43 <ant_work> http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/Getting_Started
Jan 08 15:53:55 <ant_work> takes time...
Jan 08 15:54:20 <Railgun> ant_work : yeah, i know :) I built a few recipes a long time ago
Jan 08 15:54:38 <Railgun> ant_work : i remember the pain 
Jan 08 15:54:57 <ant_work> now things are a bit better :D
Jan 08 15:55:07 <Railgun> hehe, i'm sure
Jan 08 15:55:16 <Railgun> it's nice to see things are still moving on
Jan 08 15:55:36 <Railgun> angstrom had great potential
Jan 08 16:01:31 <Railgun> ant_work : one quick question, do I need initrd.bin, updater.sh ? since I can only get the zImage from the url above
Jan 08 16:05:29 <ant_work> Railgun: yes, it's like flashing a kernel
Jan 08 16:09:41 <Railgun> ant_work : can i use the updater.sh and initrd.bin from openzaurus?
Jan 08 16:09:58 <ant_work> just updater.sh
Jan 08 16:10:09 <Railgun> great
Jan 08 16:10:10 <Railgun> thx
Jan 08 16:10:26 <ant_work> as initrd, you'll have to flash a jffs2 image
Jan 08 16:10:46 <ant_work> if you want to flash one
Jan 08 16:15:42 <Railgun> and were flashing :)
Jan 08 16:16:07 <Railgun> lol, SD card not found :)
Jan 08 16:16:22 <Railgun> probably need to find a cf card to do it
Jan 08 16:16:35 <ant_work> argh..the updater itself is old 2.4 sharp kernel
Jan 08 16:16:44 <ant_work> can't see the new card ;)
Jan 08 16:16:47 <Railgun> yeah
Jan 08 16:17:07 <Railgun> ill have to build it right?
Jan 08 16:17:17 <ant_work> no
Jan 08 16:17:23 <Railgun> oh, good
Jan 08 16:17:30 <Railgun> ill use cf
Jan 08 16:17:36 <ant_work> I mean it boots a 2.4 kernel
Jan 08 16:17:42 <Railgun> yeah
Jan 08 16:17:58 <Railgun> so cant detect sd right?
Jan 08 16:18:04 <ant_work> (...I hope that old kexecboot recognizes the CF..there was an old bug in kernel config...)
Jan 08 16:18:09 <ant_work> eh..
Jan 08 16:18:46 <Railgun> maybe i'm confusing you :)
Jan 08 16:18:55 <ant_work> no :D
Jan 08 16:19:08 <ant_work> for the upgrade you have to use old,small cards
Jan 08 16:19:15 <ant_work> but...
Jan 08 16:19:34 <ant_work> if you can boot a recent angstrom image...you should have  nandlogical
Jan 08 16:19:44 <ant_work> and you could flash from console
Jan 08 16:19:51 <ant_work> same for the initrds
Jan 08 16:20:04 <ant_work> (with nandwrite)
Jan 08 16:20:08 <Railgun> thats great
Jan 08 16:20:25 <Railgun> so i can use nandlogical, need to check if i have it
Jan 08 16:20:30 <ant_work> yea, need a bit of docs, though
Jan 08 16:20:46 <ant_work> is the same pdaxrom nanlogical, btw
Jan 08 16:20:57 <Railgun> ill try another cf first, or maybe an old sd
Jan 08 16:20:57 <Railgun> sec
Jan 08 16:26:05 <Railgun> found an old 128MB cf card. so slow. 3.5 MB/sec
Jan 08 16:26:51 <Railgun> any recommendations for really fast sd cards?
Jan 08 16:28:14 <ant_work> not really, the hardware is limiting
Jan 08 16:28:36 <ant_work> there are some benchs somewhere, though
Jan 08 16:28:53 <ant_work> yea
Jan 08 16:28:55 <ant_work> http://www.penguin.cz/~utx/zaurus/tests
Jan 08 16:30:48 <Railgun> ant_work : thx, flashing was just completed using an old CF
Jan 08 16:31:00 <Railgun> it rebooted and not i'm getting lots of error messages
Jan 08 16:31:45 <Railgun> launch.conf not found
Jan 08 16:32:03 <Railgun> Id "ln" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
Jan 08 16:32:04 <ant_work> ?
Jan 08 16:32:12 <ant_work> what have you booted?
Jan 08 16:33:12 <Railgun> i just flashed kexecboot and after it flashed, it rebooted on its own
Jan 08 16:33:48 <ant_work> this is fine. Have you flashed the right zImage.bin?
Jan 08 16:34:32 <Railgun> I flashed the one from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/kexecboot/
Jan 08 16:34:58 <ant_work> the one for akita?
Jan 08 16:35:00 <mimecar> Railgun: have you flashed a root system?
Jan 08 16:35:20 <Railgun> the first errors i get are "Empty flash at xxxxxxxxxx ends at xxxxxxxxxx "
Jan 08 16:35:25 <Railgun> yep, for akita
Jan 08 16:35:48 <mimecar> Railgun: have you flashed kexec kernel with updater.sh and rootfs?
Jan 08 16:36:04 <Railgun> just updater.sh
Jan 08 16:36:09 <ant_work> rootfs is second step
Jan 08 16:36:20 <ant_work> do you see the kexecboot menu?
Jan 08 16:36:28 <mimecar> Railgun: then, kexecboot + updater.sh ?
Jan 08 16:36:29 <Railgun> all i had on the cf was zImage and updater.sh
Jan 08 16:36:35 <ant_work> right
Jan 08 16:36:40 <Railgun> There are no menu's
Jan 08 16:36:44 <Railgun> just errors lol
Jan 08 16:36:55 <Railgun> might be a bad image
Jan 08 16:37:02 <Railgun> ill try again
Jan 08 16:37:11 * mimecar has kexec running on akita
Jan 08 16:37:26 <ant_work> the image was tested by Jay7..the main dev ;)
Jan 08 16:37:30 <ant_work> on akita...
Jan 08 16:37:39 <Railgun> mimecar, you build the image yourself or did you use one from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/kexecboot/?
Jan 08 16:37:49 <mimecar> ant_work: kexec kernel for akita works ok
Jan 08 16:37:53 <mimecar> Railgun: yes
Jan 08 16:38:10 <Railgun> might be a bad flash
Jan 08 16:38:17 <mimecar> my CF has rootfs, ...
Jan 08 16:38:24 <ant_work> I think you are booting (from kexecboot an old Openzaurus or cacko or sharp...
Jan 08 16:38:43 <Railgun> ant_work : i think you are correct
Jan 08 16:38:52 <Railgun> i'm using updater.sh from an old release
Jan 08 16:38:55 <mimecar> Railgun: what was your previous system?
Jan 08 16:38:56 <Railgun> let me try another one
Jan 08 16:38:59 <Railgun> angstrom
Jan 08 16:39:03 <Railgun> but using altboot
Jan 08 16:39:05 <mimecar> Railgun: you can use updater.sh from angstrom 2007
Jan 08 16:39:13 <Railgun> yeah, just about to do that
Jan 08 16:40:00 <ant_work> iirc updater.sh has been unified long ago...akita had problems...
Jan 08 16:40:45 <mimecar> ant_work: I use updater.sh from 2007 release
Jan 08 16:41:50 <mimecar> ant_work: is there a stable release of angstrom?
Jan 08 16:42:04 <ant_work> well, in Narcissus
Jan 08 16:42:10 <ant_work> but no images
Jan 08 16:42:16 <ant_work> recent images
Jan 08 16:42:43 <mimecar> ok
Jan 08 16:42:56 <mimecar> I had some problems with narcisus
Jan 08 16:44:04 <ant_work> we'll download some images on http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/zaurus/
Jan 08 16:45:03 <mimecar> it would be interesting ant_work
Jan 08 16:47:00 <Railgun> mimecar : did you get narcisus to work?
Jan 08 16:47:04 <ant_work> and probably I should submit the script for flashing kernel + 2 images from console...
Jan 08 16:48:58 <ant_work> have to go, bbl
Jan 08 16:49:55 <Aditya1> has anyone used guvcview with angstrom?
Jan 08 16:50:03 <Railgun> mimecar : just flashed, looks like its working
Jan 08 16:50:29 <mimecar> I don't Aditya1
Jan 08 16:50:53 <mimecar> Railgun: I didn't
Jan 08 16:51:08 <mimecar> I checked Stable and Unstable console images
Jan 08 16:51:15 <mimecar> none boot up
Jan 08 16:51:19 <Railgun> mimecar, so you are still using the 2007 image?
Jan 08 16:52:13 <mimecar> yes
Jan 08 16:52:30 <mimecar> I've played with zubuntu, but my working system is 2007
Jan 08 16:52:38 <mimecar> 2007 from internal flash, 
Jan 08 16:52:49 <Railgun> ah i see
Jan 08 16:53:33 <Railgun> mimecar : when you used updater.sh from 2007 to install kexec boot, it scans your devices right? and gives you a list of bootable ones?
Jan 08 16:53:46 <Railgun> kexecboot that is
Jan 08 16:53:49 <mimecar> true
Jan 08 16:54:03 <mimecar> if you generate an image with narcissus
Jan 08 16:54:17 <mimecar> uncompress tar.bz2 on a ext2 partition
Jan 08 16:54:28 <Railgun> mimecar : ant_work talked about using command line switches but the only options i have are Boot, reboot and rescan
Jan 08 16:54:40 <mimecar> yes
Jan 08 16:54:59 <mimecar> you've the same options than me
Jan 08 16:55:10 <Railgun> how do you get to input switches?
Jan 08 16:55:34 <mimecar> for OS selection?
Jan 08 16:55:41 <Railgun> yes
Jan 08 16:55:51 <mimecar> cursor keys
Jan 08 16:56:14 <Railgun> mimecar : i mean, he told me to use the rw switch
Jan 08 16:56:43 <mimecar> I don't know what is it
Jan 08 16:56:48 <Railgun> <ant_work> I can't remember altboot..never used. it should have a command line somewhere stating
Jan 08 16:56:48 <Railgun> <ant_work> e.g. root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw 
Jan 08 16:56:56 <Railgun> ah ok
Jan 08 16:57:13 <mimecar> you've something similar into boot folder
Jan 08 16:57:21 <Railgun> ah ok
Jan 08 16:57:38 <Railgun> mimecar : does ipkg update work for you on the 2007 ?
Jan 08 16:57:55 <Railgun> mine kept dieing at gstreamer package
Jan 08 16:58:04 <mimecar> yes
Jan 08 16:58:20 <Railgun> you ever have that problem?
Jan 08 16:58:28 <mimecar> ipkg update reload feeds
Jan 08 16:58:35 <mimecar> have you problems on it?
Jan 08 16:59:26 <Railgun> when wget the gstreamer package, it fails
Jan 08 16:59:38 <Railgun> maybe, reload feeds will work
Jan 08 17:00:00 <Railgun> mimecar : does your install break if you do ipkg upgrade?
Jan 08 17:00:31 <mimecar> no
Jan 08 17:00:45 <mimecar> upgrade with 2007 feeds works
Jan 08 17:01:07 <Railgun> you give up with 2.6 kernel for now?
Jan 08 17:01:36 <mimecar> yes
Jan 08 17:01:44 <Railgun> mimecar : what is the largest flash you can use on 2.4? mine is only 1gb
Jan 08 17:02:03 <Railgun> this is why I want to use 2.6 based kernel
Jan 08 17:02:03 <mimecar> 2007 use 2.6 kernel
Jan 08 17:02:20 <Railgun> oh, i thought it was 2.4
Jan 08 17:02:58 <Railgun> so you no longer use kexec boot? since you have angstrom on flash?
Jan 08 17:03:32 <mimecar> actually no
Jan 08 17:03:43 <mimecar> but i've played with kexecboot and OS running on sd
Jan 08 17:04:00 <mimecar> i could not move angstrom 2007 to sd
Jan 08 17:04:18 <Railgun> so to install a kexec boot os, you extract the rootfs image on an ext2 partition and use kexecboot on it?
Jan 08 17:04:27 <Railgun> why not?
Jan 08 17:04:35 <Railgun> it works for me
Jan 08 17:05:15 <mimecar> have you a rootfs for 2007?
Jan 08 17:05:22 <mimecar> I've initrd.bin only
Jan 08 17:06:29 <Railgun> but that was when I was using altboot
Jan 08 17:06:56 <Railgun> i used the rootfs image and extracted using altboot to a sd
Jan 08 17:06:57 <mimecar> with altboot, yes
Jan 08 17:07:14 <Railgun> so kexec boot doesn't work?
Jan 08 17:07:19 <Railgun> with 2007?
Jan 08 17:07:54 <mimecar> I have not move 2007 from flash to sd
Jan 08 17:08:05 <mimecar> it will work if you move it to the sd
Jan 08 17:08:27 <Railgun> mimecar : last newbie question, how to force akita to shutdown without taking out the battery? :)
Jan 08 17:08:28 <mimecar> altboot did it automatically
Jan 08 17:08:54 <mimecar> you can usa halt if you've a console
Jan 08 17:11:45 <Railgun> mimecar : thx for the helpful info
Jan 08 17:12:03 <mimecar> tell me if you get a working 2007 on sd ;)
Jan 08 17:12:16 <Railgun> will do :)
Jan 08 20:57:05 <Railgun> im trying to get angstrom to work on akita
Jan 08 20:57:15 <Railgun> but i'm getting the following error on boot
Jan 08 20:57:15 <Railgun> cannot create link over existing resolv.conf
Jan 08 20:57:41 <Railgun> anyone else had this?
Jan 08 22:09:28 <Railgun> how do you start x11 from angstrom console?
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