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Sep 14 04:06:04 <Bridge|> it says format SD card with vfat will fat16 work?
Sep 14 04:06:37 <Bridge|> or even fat32?
Sep 14 04:12:25 <Jonimus> both are readable with vfat
Sep 14 04:15:14 <Bridge|> yea someone just told me vfat is just what linux calls fat32
Sep 14 04:15:18 <Bridge|> i guess
Sep 14 04:17:26 <Bridge|> jon, at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/angstrom-installation-spitz it says 4 files i ned on my SD card i have the Online Build (Root Filesystem) hdimage1.tgz (rename from XXX-image-XXX-spitz.rootfs.tar.gz), but where do i find the other file from the website
Sep 14 04:17:46 <Bridge|> i have them from pdaXrom beta 3 but highly doubt they are one in the same
Sep 14 04:29:27 <Bridge|> managed to find Angstrom-opie-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r18-spitz-installkit.tgz, which includes all files but is 2007 really the last time these were updated?
Sep 14 04:29:42 <Bridge|> i'm sure there a newer installkit for spitz
Sep 14 10:02:36 <TypoError> Hi all, someone could indicate me what is the recipe that creates various ttyS* entries?
Sep 14 10:04:52 <TypoError> I'm trying to fork from Angstrom, selecting only packages usefull for me, but when booting getty is unsable t start, I suppose because no ttyS2 entry get created in /dev... 
Sep 14 10:05:44 <dm8tbr> why don't you just create an image recipe like most other people?
Sep 14 10:07:32 <TypoError> It's what I've done
Sep 14 10:07:38 <TypoError> starting from base-image
Sep 14 10:07:56 <dm8tbr> ok, you were speaking of forking
Sep 14 10:08:41 <TypoError> yes, you're right, I'm just modifying base-image recipes in order to include only packages that are relevant for me...
Sep 14 10:09:40 <dm8tbr> I think bitbake has a nice mode where it will show you all recipe dependencies
Sep 14 10:11:17 <TypoError> I'm not sure is only a question of recipes, I don't know where `mknod ttyS2` (or similar) is accomplished
Sep 14 10:12:18 <ant_work> look in /files/device_table-minimal.txt
Sep 14 10:13:35 <TypoError> uh, thanks, who uses that file? a single recipe or is a global bitbake config options?
Sep 14 10:17:22 <TypoError> for other distros and machines (not angstrom or beagleboard) is specified in the conf files wich device-table to use... Why angstrom do no use those files?
Sep 14 10:20:48 <ant_work> sorry,  was looking at some strangeness in the file..
Sep 14 10:20:57 <ant_work> iirc angstrom uses it
Sep 14 10:21:24 <ant_work> now that I look at it,
Sep 14 10:21:32 <ant_work>  /dev/tty	c	662	0	5	5	0	-	-	-
Sep 14 10:21:34 <ant_work>  /dev/tty	c	666	0	5	4	0	0	1	9
Sep 14 10:31:36 <TypoError> anyway, no ttyS2 mentioned here, but Angstrom has its ttyS* entries after boot
Sep 14 10:32:49 <ant_work> well, one is created /dev/ttyS	c	640	0	5	4	64	0	1	1
Sep 14 10:34:05 <TypoError> sure, just one, but a "live" angstrom has ttyS1 ttyS2 and ttyS3. Am I missing something about device creation method?
Sep 14 10:38:03 <ant_work> yes, check initscripts
Sep 14 10:38:15 <ant_work> recipes/initscripts
Sep 14 10:39:56 <ant_work> device_table-minimal.txt is intended as basis (e.g. initramfs)
Sep 14 10:40:54 <TypoError> while initscripts ships his own one, in initscripts-1.0
Sep 14 10:41:41 <ant_work> yes, some images have no initscripts
Sep 14 10:41:46 <TypoError> /dev/ttyS	c	640	0	5	4	64	0	1	4
Sep 14 10:42:09 <TypoError> and three ttyS gets created.. thanks a lot ant_work
Sep 14 10:42:16 <ant_work> yw
Sep 14 11:36:43 <CcSsNET> testing the narcissus build tool for ipaq now
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Sep 14 14:38:46 <przemek_> hello, is it possible to run Angstrom as a root, not normal user? How to do it?
Sep 14 14:40:08 <ant_work> why would you run as root?
Sep 14 14:40:33 <ant_work> anyway, in console you can su - root
Sep 14 14:41:05 <ant_work> and be root in that vt
Sep 14 14:42:26 <przemek_> ant_work: I would like to run Angstrom, withoout gpe-dm. After run, Angstrom should run my app which needed USB etc. Normal user cannot open USB or I can't open USB
Sep 14 14:43:01 <przemek_> my app uses Qt
Sep 14 14:44:25 <przemek_> Now I do it in this way: 1. I start Linux,  2.log as root, 3.kill gpe-dm, 4.run my app
Sep 14 14:46:08 <przemek_> I would like to start my app automatically after start Angstrom.
Sep 14 14:46:24 <przemek_> ant_work: do you think that it is possible?
Sep 14 14:47:24 <ant_work> I think you could do all with initscripts / custom init
Sep 14 14:47:48 <ant_work> those scripts are run with root privioleges 
Sep 14 14:48:19 <ant_work> btw give a look at opie-image
Sep 14 14:48:36 <ant_work> no gnome there
Sep 14 14:48:53 <ant_work> old qtopia
Sep 14 14:49:30 <przemek_> great, but I'm newbie in linux. I'm windows user:) Which files are initscripts / custom init?
Sep 14 14:58:04 <ant_work> oh..imagine autoexec.bat
Sep 14 15:29:49 <dm8tbr> lol
Sep 14 15:57:09 <ant_work> he..concise explanation of SysV init runlevel system, wasn't?
Sep 14 23:17:36 <Tartarus> Where should I submit a patch if i wanted angstrom.conf to change behaviors on something? (thinking of either switching to sane-toolchain.inc, or pulling the os triplet function out) ?
Sep 15 00:02:58 <Crofton|work> talk to koen
Sep 15 00:03:26 <Crofton|work> in the past he and xora haven't been enthusiastic about sane-toolchain
Sep 15 00:03:59 <Crofton|work> the rest of us just care that stuff works
Sep 15 00:04:24 <Crofton|work> and there seems to be some confusion between ahving stuff build and the resulting builds work these days ....
Sep 15 01:27:49 <CcSsNET> well booting linux on an ipaq 4350 is quite tricky eh? haha
Sep 15 01:28:12 <CcSsNET> ive only managed to do it using the live ramfs
Sep 15 01:28:25 <CcSsNET> the sd card method didnt want to play nice
Sep 15 01:51:35 <Jonimus> heh I have gotten both to work on my h2200
Sep 15 01:51:48 <Jonimus> but that thing seems very well supported, at least it was at one time
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