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Mar 01 04:56:33 <jimqode> hello. I'm trying to bitbake artoolkit, but I'm getting this strange sed error. I'm not very experienced with this. Does anyone have an idea? http://pastebin.com/bLHMG8jy
Mar 01 19:44:43 <Px2> hi
Mar 01 19:48:45 <Px2> i have a hp ipaq rx3115 handheld. I would like to install angstrom linux. Is there any Instruction manual ?
Mar 01 19:53:46 <Px2> come on i need help
Mar 01 21:06:24 <pupnik> hi Px2 
Mar 01 21:06:59 <pupnik> do you have linux on it now?
Mar 01 21:30:11 <CcSsNET> Px2 you will need some form of bootloader
Mar 01 21:30:40 <CcSsNET> haret.exe for example
Mar 01 21:30:44 <CcSsNET> i think is the name of one
Mar 01 21:31:48 <Px2> yeah i have it
Mar 01 21:31:57 <Px2> haret.exe
Mar 01 21:32:30 <Px2> what else do i need?
Mar 01 21:39:27 <pupnik> some more background knowledge, based on your questions
Mar 01 21:41:30 <DJWillis> Px2: you will need the config file (default.txt) for Haret to boot Linux and a LOT more reading before you going to get it going ;)
Mar 01 21:51:14 <Px2> ok could u guys give me some links for that
Mar 01 21:53:01 <Px2> http://www.handhelds.org/this site is down 
Mar 01 21:55:26 <Px2> and when i try to build my own rootfs file (i think this is the kernel file) which machine am i going to choose ?
Mar 01 21:56:14 <Px2> in this site http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ there is no rx3XXX
Mar 01 22:03:43 <pupnik> i'm just a user
Mar 01 22:03:55 <Px2> according to http://www.anytux.org/hardware.php?system_id=732 this website i have S3C 2440, 300/400 MHz  CPU but i think i have to find a compatible cpu
Mar 01 22:05:00 <Px2> pupnik im also a new linux user
Mar 01 22:05:31 <pupnik> then i think you need to get some basic linux chops first
Mar 01 22:05:38 <pupnik> like linux from scratch, gentoo, etc
Mar 01 22:07:03 <Px2> is it that so much complicated?
Mar 01 22:07:37 <Px2> i need someone who have rx3XXX kernel files thats all
Mar 01 22:11:42 <Px2> I think some succeced look at this link http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigo/Angstrom-Linux-em-Palmtops-portateis-e-embarcados-sem-misterio?pagina=3
Mar 01 22:12:24 <Px2> but this guy didnt published in english
Mar 01 22:24:32 <Px2> any idea?
Mar 01 22:25:00 <pupnik> google translate
Mar 01 22:31:02 <Px2> i get not enough information and some words are missing
Mar 01 22:32:22 <pupnik> hooray for translation software though eh
Mar 01 22:34:55 <Px2> ok i found a blog this guy saying i have to patch kernel file and haret http://anarsoul.blogspot.com/2008/06/some-notes-about-s3c24xx-suspendresume.html ???
Mar 01 22:36:59 <roscoe88> is anyone using angstrom on archos devices?
Mar 01 22:46:26 <CcSsNET> Px2 i suggest trying sourcemage gnu/linux, ttylinux, and slitaz in reverse order actually
Mar 01 22:46:37 <CcSsNET> to get more familar with linux
Mar 01 22:46:55 <CcSsNET> use LFS as a reference if needed. dont touch gentoo ull thank me later
Mar 01 22:48:03 <CcSsNET> anyone got angstrom working on ipaq 4350? no im not interested in a initramfs method, i mean actual rom take over
Mar 01 22:48:31 <CcSsNET> or sd card is fine
Mar 01 22:49:18 <CcSsNET> also anyone got angstrom working on an Eken M002? or M009?
Mar 01 22:49:35 <CcSsNET> sd card or rom mod
Mar 01 22:54:00 <Px2> CcSsNET thanks for ur answer
Mar 01 22:55:14 <CcSsNET> no problem
Mar 01 22:55:23 <CcSsNET> i host a mirror of those atccss.net
Mar 01 22:55:38 <CcSsNET> when i get more disk space, ill host sourcemage mirror too
Mar 01 22:56:53 <CcSsNET> working with 4gb atm hehe
Mar 01 22:58:15 <Px2> CcSsNET are u also using haret in your SD card?
Mar 01 22:58:58 <CcSsNET> i put haret.exe on my ipaq file storage, and my image is on my sd card
Mar 01 22:59:46 <Px2> ok what do u mean with image file
Mar 01 22:59:58 <CcSsNET> i didnt say with
Mar 01 22:59:59 <Px2> kernel and linux root /
Mar 01 23:00:17 <CcSsNET> yes those are on the sd
Mar 01 23:00:39 <CcSsNET> haret and its config file are on the filestorage of the ipaq itself
Mar 01 23:00:55 <CcSsNET> narcisus builds an unworking image for ipaq 4350 model
Mar 01 23:01:00 <CcSsNET> good luck with ur model
Mar 01 23:01:06 <Px2> :)
Mar 01 23:01:23 <Px2> thanks
Mar 01 23:03:57 <CcSsNET> i like guides more then services, i kinda wish narcisus was a documentation project instead of automation system
Mar 01 23:03:59 <CcSsNET> lol
Mar 01 23:06:06 <Px2> CcSsNET have u seen this files http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/
Mar 01 23:06:17 <CcSsNET> for ipaq 4350?
Mar 01 23:06:42 <CcSsNET> its an initramfs version i beleive, i havent looked at the link u just pasted. but i beleive i have used it
Mar 01 23:06:53 <CcSsNET> it does work but leaves 4mb of ram free of the 64mb
Mar 01 23:07:10 <CcSsNET> usefull for instalation step. useless as day 2 day system
Mar 01 23:07:18 <Px2> ok
Mar 01 23:09:03 <Px2> is ur ipaq 4350 works with h4000
Mar 01 23:09:36 <pupnik> roscoe88: yes i'm running it on gen8 here
Mar 01 23:09:47 <pupnik> roscoe88: #openaos is probably the best channel for support
Mar 01 23:09:52 <Px2> which one are u choosing
Mar 01 23:11:00 <CcSsNET> hmm i forget i would have to take it out of the closet
Mar 01 23:11:02 <CcSsNET> :P
Mar 01 23:12:10 <CcSsNET> #openaos?
Mar 01 23:13:00 <CcSsNET> just joined ill check it out
Mar 01 23:13:01 <Px2> CcSsNet and there are some exe files in this repo something like image-liveramdisk what are they for?
Mar 01 23:13:21 <CcSsNET> i beleive thats the one i was talking about that eats all the ram
Mar 01 23:13:35 <CcSsNET> instead of using an sd card for example. it loads the FS to ram
Mar 01 23:14:08 <CcSsNET> is usefull to examine the hardware fast and easy, not so usefull for day 2 day use
Mar 01 23:17:00 <Px2> ok and Angstrom-boot-2.6.21-hh20-r0-h4000.exe files are i guess for boot looding 
Mar 01 23:17:13 <Px2> like haret
Mar 01 23:17:23 <Px2> am i right
Mar 01 23:17:51 <CcSsNET> probably not
Mar 01 23:17:57 <CcSsNET> but im not looking at it
Mar 01 23:18:01 <CcSsNET> what size is the file?
Mar 01 23:20:15 <Px2> 	Angstrom-boot-2.6.21-hh20-r0-h4000.exe	29-Dec-2007 01:58 	1.9M
Mar 01 23:20:58 <CcSsNET> o ok
Mar 01 23:21:02 <CcSsNET> yea thats what it is
Mar 01 23:21:09 <CcSsNET> if it was larger no
Mar 01 23:21:10 <CcSsNET> hehe
Mar 01 23:24:28 <CcSsNET> kernels range from 1mb -5mb
Mar 01 23:24:46 <CcSsNET> in general for linux
Mar 01 23:26:37 <Px2> ok in which data is file system i mean Root / i think that muss be huge
Mar 01 23:27:05 <CcSsNET> yea / will be large
Mar 01 23:27:17 <CcSsNET> anywhere from 7mb to gb's
Mar 01 23:28:23 <Px2> in this condition Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-h4000.rootfs.tar.gz 
Mar 01 23:28:30 <Px2> file
Mar 01 23:30:32 <Px2> is kernel compilation hard for new user?
Mar 01 23:30:50 <CcSsNET> atccss.net/projects/
Mar 01 23:30:53 <CcSsNET> read the kernel guide
Mar 01 23:30:58 <Px2> i think i have to compile my own kernel
Mar 01 23:31:05 <CcSsNET> also sourcemage should have a manual kernel guide
Mar 01 23:31:28 <CcSsNET> but yes it will be complex because youll need to crosscompile
Mar 01 23:31:44 <CcSsNET> and u will need to get a difrent kernel source tree then kernel.org
Mar 01 23:32:16 <Px2> uff
Mar 01 23:33:18 <Px2> i think i can only use linux on my desktop or laptop
Mar 01 23:33:44 <Px2> and easy linux distubutions such as ubuntu
Mar 01 23:34:16 <CcSsNET> try slitaz
Mar 01 23:34:27 <CcSsNET> you will learn alot, and easier then ubuntu
Mar 01 23:34:40 <CcSsNET> far smaller too
Mar 01 23:34:47 <CcSsNET> 30mb versus what 3gb?
Mar 01 23:36:37 <CcSsNET> ubuntu is breaking linux traditions
Mar 01 23:36:38 <Px2> does it have gnome
Mar 01 23:36:44 <CcSsNET> dirty distro
Mar 01 23:36:49 <CcSsNET> no gnome sucks :P
Mar 01 23:36:55 <CcSsNET> just try it
Mar 01 23:37:42 <Px2> ubuntu is for windows users like me
Mar 01 23:37:49 <CcSsNET> slitaz is for noobs
Mar 01 23:37:52 <CcSsNET> there i saidit
Mar 01 23:37:54 <Px2> and it is very easy :)
Mar 01 23:38:27 <CcSsNET> slitaz is designed to be understood and easy to use, ubuntu is designed to be easy to use, but its imposible to learn how it works its to large
Mar 01 23:39:31 <Px2> i understand
Mar 01 23:39:50 <CcSsNET> cool
Mar 01 23:40:25 <Px2> does it have good repositories or i have to use what i downloaded 30 MB
Mar 01 23:40:36 <CcSsNET> 2gb of repositories or more
Mar 01 23:40:41 <CcSsNET> lots to use
Mar 01 23:41:02 <CcSsNET> slitaz is an example of linux being done corectly
Mar 01 23:41:12 <Px2> ok as a package system rpm
Mar 01 23:41:12 <CcSsNET> ubuntu is example of letting marketing take over
Mar 01 23:41:17 <CcSsNET> no rpm
Mar 01 23:41:36 <CcSsNET> uses its own system
Mar 01 23:41:44 <CcSsNET> check #slitaz here on freenode for more
Mar 01 23:42:33 <Px2> ok anyway i can compile with ./configure; make ;make install :)
Mar 01 23:42:57 <CcSsNET> good
Mar 01 23:43:04 <CcSsNET> then try sourcemage
Mar 01 23:43:06 <CcSsNET> :P
Mar 01 23:43:35 <Px2> ok thanks alot o have to go have nice day
Mar 01 23:43:45 <CcSsNET> bye bye
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