**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 24 02:59:58 2011 Mar 24 07:01:42 Anyone around? Mar 24 08:00:36 yes Mar 24 10:06:14 Hiya. Mar 24 10:06:22 Ok, quick potentially dumb question. Mar 24 10:07:19 I just finished running MACHINE=machine ./oebb.sh bitbake virtual/kernel. Mar 24 10:07:29 Um.... NOW what? There's no file in that directory. Mar 24 10:08:05 Isn't it supposed to compile a file that I can move onto my palm? Or extract and move the result to load with the bootloader? Mar 24 10:16:55 your about 25% done Mar 24 10:17:16 all that did was build a kernel Mar 24 10:17:26 you still need to build the rootfs Mar 24 10:17:53 i just viewed the latest 50 pages of freshmeat.net Mar 24 10:17:53 You're freaking kidding me. Mar 24 10:17:55 sigh Mar 24 10:18:06 nope Mar 24 10:18:10 Six hours JUST TO BUILD THE DAMN KERNEL?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Mar 24 10:18:13 do you have the pdf manual? Mar 24 10:18:17 Erm. Mar 24 10:18:19 Somewhere. Mar 24 10:18:20 I think. Mar 24 10:18:23 what system are you building with? Mar 24 10:18:25 single core? Mar 24 10:18:27 Yeah. Mar 24 10:18:29 ugh Mar 24 10:18:32 Athlon 64. Mar 24 10:18:33 i feel bad Mar 24 10:18:35 :-/ Mar 24 10:19:01 if your online later tonight i might be able to get you an account on a quad core Mar 24 10:19:06 for building purposes Mar 24 10:19:15 Hate to mess with anything like that. Mar 24 10:19:24 k Mar 24 10:19:25 I can let something run. Mar 24 10:19:30 ok Mar 24 10:19:33 Just go to bed with the compile running. Mar 24 10:19:36 But SHEESH. Mar 24 10:19:40 well grab the pdf and goto page 23 Mar 24 10:19:42 This is for a PDA. Mar 24 10:19:50 It just ain't that BIG. Mar 24 10:20:10 pdf manual pdf manual.... Mar 24 10:20:12 um Mar 24 10:20:16 true but cross compiling is excessivly redundant Mar 24 10:20:20 so it does get large Mar 24 10:20:41 my build directory is 8.8gb Mar 24 10:20:48 ruh roh Mar 24 10:20:55 firmware images are from 3mb to 20mb Mar 24 10:21:00 How big does this thing GET? Mar 24 10:21:01 i built 6 diferent ones Mar 24 10:21:12 I think I only have about 10 gigs free left on my drive. Mar 24 10:21:14 well assume 8.8 is the largest Mar 24 10:21:16 k Mar 24 10:21:22 that's tight but doable. Mar 24 10:21:25 k Mar 24 10:21:37 erm Mar 24 10:21:44 I don't THINK I'll fill up /var. Mar 24 10:21:53 unlikely Mar 24 10:22:03 I don't remember if I put that on a separate partition or not. Mar 24 10:22:11 type df -h Mar 24 10:22:15 ull see ur partitions Mar 24 10:22:47 /var is rarely used by well anything but logs Mar 24 10:22:55 Yeah I know. Mar 24 10:23:04 on sourcemage though, its used for cache Mar 24 10:23:19 Which on the devices I've supported means it can fill up the hard drive and corrupt various configs.... Mar 24 10:23:26 Sokay I think it's on a separate partition. Mar 24 10:24:01 Ok, so what's next? base-image? Mar 24 10:24:06 I can't find the pdf. Mar 24 10:24:09 Thought I downloaded it. Mar 24 10:24:51 i do the following partitioning: 150mb /boot as ext2 noatime, 1gb /tmp as ext2 noatime,nodev,nosuid,noexec, then the remaining space as / with noatime Mar 24 10:25:13 Yeah it's been what.... five years since I built this? Mar 24 10:25:18 well this next step u need to pick a rootfs template from page 23 Mar 24 10:25:20 I don't remember what I partitioned where.... Mar 24 10:25:27 Ok, where do I find the manual? Mar 24 10:25:33 base-image is the smallest one Mar 24 10:25:42 console-image is second smallest Mar 24 10:25:58 it should be on the site Mar 24 10:26:04 Ok scratch that I didn't know there WAS a pdf manual. Mar 24 10:26:08 Just the online one. Mar 24 10:26:32 ok Mar 24 10:26:33 so Mar 24 10:26:59 bitbake x11-gpe-image? Mar 24 10:27:05 yup Mar 24 10:27:08 thatll work Mar 24 10:27:21 thats the one i built and tested first Mar 24 10:27:32 how is it? Mar 24 10:27:34 my boot on the ipaq got to around 90% and froze Mar 24 10:27:40 I'm wondering if I should go with the office image. Mar 24 10:27:43 im trying console-image next Mar 24 10:28:37 i built em all one after another Mar 24 10:28:48 so i can test em when i get around to moving files Mar 24 10:28:49 I can add in software after this, right? Mar 24 10:28:58 not sure how that works yet Mar 24 10:29:01 Like do gpe-image then compile, say, mplayer? Mar 24 10:29:05 And add that to the image? Mar 24 10:29:13 im sure it is possible to create our own custom rootfs template Mar 24 10:29:20 such as console-image Mar 24 10:29:47 like i said, im not sure yet on manual packages Mar 24 10:30:00 im only slightly ahead of you on compiling Mar 24 10:30:09 Hmmmm. Well there's gotta be a way to do it. There are recipes for all kinds of software. Mar 24 10:30:16 ya Mar 24 10:30:27 ill get around to it Mar 24 10:30:31 ive got to many projects Mar 24 10:30:32 :) Mar 24 10:30:41 best way to add software to an image is to create a custom image Mar 24 10:30:41 Yeah me I just have too much time. Mar 24 10:31:09 Ok.... so.... that's something we do instead of bitbake x11-gpe-image, right? Mar 24 10:31:21 XorA how do we do this? and what are these image templates called? because calling them templates is kinda generic atm Mar 24 10:31:33 look in recipes/images/ Mar 24 10:31:38 k Mar 24 10:31:45 youll see most of the call something in tasks/task* Mar 24 10:32:00 and from that you see how the dependency tree is started Mar 24 10:32:03 recipes/images.... under.... source? Mar 24 10:32:07 or build? Mar 24 10:32:15 ok Mar 24 10:32:28 CorwinWeber: we have vastly different directory layouts as I dont use the easy start scripts Mar 24 10:32:32 ok found it I think Mar 24 10:32:38 find is your friend :-) Mar 24 10:33:26 Yeah being handy with a mouse and nautilus is too. Mar 24 10:33:34 also when you get advanced enough you can create local overlays on top of OE to put your custom stuff in Mar 24 10:34:33 CorwinWeber, your a gnome user! Mar 24 10:34:40 I'm a user. Mar 24 10:34:47 Remember I mentioned the frankenputer? Mar 24 10:34:48 ugh thats not helping your compile times much Mar 24 10:34:55 eh idk Mar 24 10:35:02 It started out with XFCE which is what I'm logged into at the moment. Mar 24 10:35:09 ah ok Mar 24 10:35:10 Also has gnome and kde installed. Mar 24 10:35:16 at least ur not in gnome then Mar 24 10:35:16 * XorA has been using OE far too long now Mar 24 10:35:27 Ok. So, I'm seeing these images. Mar 24 10:36:11 What I'm not exactly clear on is what to compile next. Mar 24 10:36:39 I mean... base X11 system with gpe and PIM stuff installed is fine.... but I'd like things like mplayer and a pdf reader. Mar 24 10:36:57 ooo theres quite a list of preconfigured images Mar 24 10:36:58 :) Mar 24 10:37:06 I'm already hoping that any of the base systems will recognize my hardware and let me call up the on screen keyboard.... otherwise I'm kinda boned. Mar 24 10:37:34 yea you should definatly build one with a gui and keyboard at the minimal if u require it Mar 24 10:37:47 Wait. Mar 24 10:38:06 Anything I want to add.... add that to IMAGE_INSTALL? Mar 24 10:38:16 Editing one of the existing images? Mar 24 10:40:48 you can actually do that from local.conf, but if your actually doing a lot of added stuff might as well just add an image of your own Mar 24 10:41:06 Ok but that's where it would be added in the image file? Mar 24 10:41:07 and if its actually good for something you can even start giving the recipe to others Mar 24 10:41:37 theres so many to choose from Mar 24 10:41:42 im still stairing at the list Mar 24 10:41:44 :) Mar 24 10:41:50 IMAGE_INSTALL = "\ Mar 24 10:41:50 ${MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER} \ Mar 24 10:41:51 task-gpe-base \ Mar 24 10:41:51 task-gpe-pim \ Mar 24 10:41:51 task-gpe-settings \ Mar 24 10:41:51 task-gpe-apps \ Mar 24 10:41:53 ${XSERVER} \ Mar 24 10:41:55 ${SPLASH} \ Mar 24 10:41:58 but yes, add to IMAGE_INSTALL Mar 24 10:41:59 ${GPE_EXTRA_INSTALL}" Mar 24 10:42:03 from gpe-image.bb Mar 24 10:42:06 ok Mar 24 10:42:16 So I'd add the name of a recipe file I want added to that? Mar 24 10:42:26 I would do for example cp gpe-image.bb gpe-image-super-cool.bb Mar 24 10:42:30 right Mar 24 10:42:32 then edit the new one Mar 24 10:42:35 Never tinker with your originals. Mar 24 10:42:39 Bad. Mar 24 10:42:42 as that protects you when git pull is done Mar 24 10:42:42 Bad bad bad. Mar 24 10:42:46 Right. Mar 24 10:42:56 Don't worry I basically quit drinking a few years back. Mar 24 10:42:58 :) Mar 24 10:43:23 bootmanager-image what i think it is? Mar 24 10:43:43 Ok, next question.... how long is this likely to take? Should I start it and wait.... or given that it's pushing 4am.... start it and go to bed? Mar 24 10:43:44 :) Mar 24 10:43:56 start and goto bed for sure Mar 24 10:43:58 k Mar 24 10:44:04 figured but thought I'd check :) Mar 24 10:44:07 depends on how much you need to compile and how many cores you have :-) Mar 24 10:44:23 Single core amd athlon 64. Mar 24 10:44:26 my quad core took me over an hour for the gpe one u first mentioned Mar 24 10:44:40 3.6ghz, 2mb cache Mar 24 10:44:42 Ok I'm gonna start a bitbake gpe-image bit. Just a basic one to try out. Mar 24 10:45:01 I can get fancy and tinker later. Who knows, maybe gpe will have all I need. Mar 24 10:45:04 heh I tell myself. Mar 24 10:45:07 good thing is you dont recompile stuff you already compiled Mar 24 10:45:21 XorA that is rather genius Mar 24 10:45:26 ok Mar 24 10:45:36 Um, run that from setup-scripts, right? Mar 24 10:45:43 And it'll dump a folder in that directory? Mar 24 10:45:50 Or an archive? Mar 24 10:46:49 * XorA has never used the setup script Mar 24 10:47:12 Ok, but you've used 'bitbake x11-image' right? Mar 24 10:47:19 XorA u should write a mini howto/guidelines then Mar 24 10:47:23 Isn't that the compile/build command? Mar 24 10:47:39 otherwise i might Mar 24 10:47:40 lol Mar 24 10:48:23 CcSsNET: the setup scripts were written by koen to stop him being asked every 5 mins how to do a setup Mar 24 10:48:51 they produce a functionally the same setup to mine, but a different directory tree Mar 24 10:49:44 o Mar 24 10:49:49 I'm just wondering where to run bitbake.... Mar 24 10:49:53 Or does it matter? Mar 24 10:50:13 I'm ok with doing it manually instead of using the shell script. Mar 24 10:50:38 i guess we should read the shell script for that awnser Mar 24 10:50:40 :) Mar 24 10:50:47 did. Not much in it. Mar 24 10:53:27 well time for me to try and get the build system working on sourcemage, i hate chrooting to debian, or rebooting Mar 24 10:55:53 Ok. Compiling. I've got to get to bed. 10 till 4. Mar 24 10:56:04 * CorwinWeber waves sleepily.... Mar 24 10:56:11 I ain't as young as I used to be. Mar 24 10:56:22 none of us are :-) Mar 24 10:56:24 heh Mar 24 10:56:26 nite nite Mar 24 11:00:51 im going to make my own image type now, using the nautilus web interface as guidance for gui options Mar 24 11:01:10 i remember it had like 5-6 difrent gui's to pick Mar 24 11:07:31 ever tried the illume-image? Mar 24 11:07:37 trying it next i think Mar 24 11:15:15 bawh stuck rebooting for this, chroot being hell. dont feel like dealing with dependencies on sourcemage Mar 24 11:16:15 illume used to be quite good, but I suspect its bitrotted these days, not sure anyone maintained it since raster left OpenMoko Mar 24 11:16:41 * XorA was quite partial to illume OM interface Mar 24 11:55:07 hi Mar 24 11:58:58 i dont know if anyone can help me: i have the pandaboard, and angstrom? Mar 24 11:59:11 anyone has made them work together? Mar 24 13:08:28 joergi__: I have Mar 24 13:29:00 anyone here with expirience with using clutter without X? Mar 24 13:39:55 iRaivis: perhaps try #clutter on irc.gnome.org if nobody answers here Mar 24 14:38:16 with all the images ive tried that where not mentioned in the pdf. they all fail so far Mar 24 16:04:24 hi all Mar 24 16:04:50 so ive been investigating the file system of minimal-gpe-image, ill check others. Mar 24 16:05:18 the passwd file is definately setup incorrect. infact ill be as bold as to say on purpose for backdoors Mar 24 16:05:29 who is in charge of this Mar 24 17:09:52 who here is a developer for angstrom? how could any of you overlook your /etc/passwd file? Mar 24 17:10:01 seriously? Mar 24 17:14:26 or is angstrom jsut a scripted wrapper around oe? Mar 25 00:40:36 Hiya. Mar 25 00:51:11 hi Mar 25 00:51:24 Ok, finished my compile and I think I've found the file it created in the images directory. Now I just.... unzip the rootfs and modules archives and copy them onto the SD card for the palm? Mar 25 00:51:36 bad news. even if you get angstrom installed, you will need to do some security tweaks Mar 25 00:51:49 I'm a security specialist. I do that anyway. Mar 25 00:51:52 Whether I need to or not. Mar 25 00:51:54 ah Mar 25 00:51:57 :) Mar 25 00:51:57 same Mar 25 00:52:05 but i have a feeling ull overlook this Mar 25 00:52:22 go look at the /etc/passwd file in that rootfs tarball Mar 25 00:53:13 theres quite a few things required to make it boot with an sd card as / Mar 25 00:54:40 Ok, it's been a while since I tinkered with /etc/passwd.... but.... Mar 25 00:54:44 Um. Mar 25 00:54:46 Erm. Mar 25 00:54:48 Oh. Mar 25 00:54:56 Is that what I think it is? Mar 25 00:54:58 notice it yet? Mar 25 00:55:08 Root? Mar 25 00:55:15 sigh Mar 25 00:55:29 u got alot to learn about security there specialist Mar 25 00:55:32 :P Mar 25 00:55:38 I don't usually work on the system level. Mar 25 00:55:46 theres 20 accounts in that file, and they all spawn a shell Mar 25 00:55:47 What I think I'm seeing is that root has no password. Mar 25 00:55:57 change all the /bin/sh to /bin/false Mar 25 00:56:02 asside from root account Mar 25 00:56:13 Ok that's an issue, sure. Mar 25 00:56:19 definatly Mar 25 00:56:36 Ok, when unzipped will this thing boot on qemu? Mar 25 00:56:45 It'd be much easier to update and edit a live file copy. Mar 25 00:56:45 havent tried Mar 25 00:56:49 Worth a shot. Mar 25 00:56:57 I hate trying to actually type on a pda. Mar 25 00:57:39 lol Mar 25 00:57:52 ive got my build working 90% Mar 25 00:57:56 but it halts Mar 25 00:58:03 Oh great. Mar 25 00:58:06 ** sigh ** Mar 25 00:58:12 so i need to find the issue Mar 25 00:58:16 Extracted but I can already tell you it's not going to work. Mar 25 00:58:20 probably an init situation Mar 25 00:58:32 Ubuntu is reading the /dev and such directories and not allowing me to modify them. Mar 25 00:58:45 Doesn't matter that it's not ubuntu's /dev/whatever. Mar 25 00:59:27 you didnt do something right Mar 25 00:59:40 say for example your sd card is mounted at /mnt/1 Mar 25 00:59:52 proper method would be as follows to install that rootfs to it Mar 25 01:00:06 tar -jxf some-image.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/1 Mar 25 01:00:21 I'm just extracting into a subdirectory. I think ubuntu is seeing directories like /dev and /mnt and such and not letting me change them because I'm not root. Mar 25 01:00:31 make sure the sd card is already partitioned as linux, formated as ext2 Mar 25 01:00:34 Gonna try running gzip under sudo. Mar 25 01:00:43 you cant do that ^ Mar 25 01:00:48 Why not? Mar 25 01:00:52 not without knowing how to deal with /dev Mar 25 01:00:55 ... Mar 25 01:01:02 It's not the real /dev. Mar 25 01:01:07 dont matter Mar 25 01:01:16 its linked to the kernel Mar 25 01:01:21 Not even close to that directory. I'm extracting into a subdirectory under /setup-scripts. Mar 25 01:01:26 its not just a folder Mar 25 01:01:49 hmmmmmmmmmm Mar 25 01:02:36 /dev /proc /sys all are special folders Mar 25 01:02:57 Right. But this ends up being /setup-scripts/build/yaddayadda/dev Mar 25 01:03:11 /dev has to have 3 particular devices in it, assuming you use udev. otherwise more. and the other 2 are owned by the kernel Mar 25 01:03:51 ok well to do proper staging for a directory like your attempting Mar 25 01:04:08 you need to boot a livecd of that arch Mar 25 01:04:11 in qemu Mar 25 01:04:17 and chroot that directory Mar 25 01:04:18 hmmmmm Mar 25 01:04:20 assumitivly Mar 25 01:04:21 ugh Mar 25 01:04:26 Pain in the ass from the sound of it. Mar 25 01:04:37 well if its not working as is, attempt a chroot Mar 25 01:05:07 is it arm arch? Mar 25 01:05:10 Ok, so if any system is going to read /dev as the system's /dev regardless of where it is.... how does anybody actually do this? Mar 25 01:05:12 Yeah it is. Mar 25 01:05:13 if so try ttylinux.net Mar 25 01:05:26 Got another device to try that's mips. Mar 25 01:05:30 k Mar 25 01:05:33 But that'll take a different kernel. Mar 25 01:05:50 well the dev situation is related to how its created Mar 25 01:05:59 otherwise the kernel will be pissed Mar 25 01:07:03 Ok, wait. I'm still not seeing why it won't let me mknod. Mar 25 01:07:14 I've got other hard drives slaved to my main that have linux installs on them. Mar 25 01:07:15 Older ones. Mar 25 01:07:20 And it's not complaining about them. Mar 25 01:11:36 why are you attempting mknod? Mar 25 01:11:49 I'm not. Gzip is. Mar 25 01:11:54 wtf Mar 25 01:12:03 why you using gzip? Mar 25 01:12:08 and when it fails, /dev in the result is empty. Mar 25 01:12:24 the tarballs are .bz2 arnt they? Mar 25 01:12:47 Um, because it's a .bz2? Ok, archive manager not gzip specifically. Mar 25 01:13:15 Ok I don't think qemu can boot directly out of a .bz2 file. Unfortunately. Mar 25 01:13:23 ok well ill go look at my rootfs and verify /dev is empty. hell for all i know its my last bug Mar 25 01:13:36 Could be. Mar 25 01:13:42 That'd keep it from booting. Mar 25 01:14:36 brb cig Mar 25 01:15:06 mines not empty Mar 25 01:15:19 and it looks normal to me Mar 25 01:15:59 apm_bios hda10 hda15 hda2 hda7 kmem mmcblk0p3 mtd0 mtd5 mtdblock2 mtdblock7 ram2 tty1 tty6 urandomrn console hda11 hda16 hda3 hda8 mem mmcblk0p4 mtd1 mtd6 mtdblock3 null ram3 tty2 tty7 zerorn fb0 hda12 hda17 hda4 hda9 mmcblk0 mmcblk0p5 mtd2 mtd7 mtdblock4 ptmx random tty3 tty8 Mar 25 01:16:05 hda hda13 hda18 hda5 initctl mmcblk0p1 mmcblk0p6 mtd3 mtdblock0 mtdblock5 ram0 tty tty4 ttyS0rn hda1 hda14 hda19 hda6 input mmcblk0p2 mmcblk0p7 mtd4 mtdblock1 mtdblock6 ram1 tty0 tty5 ttySA0 Mar 25 01:16:09 contents of mine Mar 25 01:16:47 im currently trying minimal-gpe-image Mar 25 01:16:57 its the one thats gotten the furthest so far Mar 25 01:17:38 well u inspired me to attempt working on it in qemu bbl ill let u know if it works Mar 25 01:22:28 ok Mar 25 01:22:48 I'm wondering if I'd have better luck copying the archive over to my 98 vm and extracting it there. Mar 25 01:22:57 Then copying the result back over. Mar 25 01:23:31 see copying is where u break /dev Mar 25 01:23:36 u cant copy /dev Mar 25 01:23:37 ever Mar 25 01:23:58 grrrrr Mar 25 01:24:22 extract the original tarball in a vm Mar 25 01:24:26 and chroot it Mar 25 01:24:37 Ok, in a linux vm. Mar 25 01:24:41 Which I'd have to set up. Mar 25 01:24:43 But meh. Mar 25 01:24:46 im attempting to create a hard drive for a vm attempt for it Mar 25 01:24:48 No biggie. Mar 25 01:25:04 ill need a boot iso, ttylinux, and a target vm hard disk for the extraction Mar 25 01:25:09 ill be doing this Mar 25 01:25:11 ok Mar 25 01:25:28 Why ttylinux specifically? Mar 25 01:25:31 qemu emulated my arm cpu :) Mar 25 01:25:38 o i like ttylinux Mar 25 01:25:40 :) Mar 25 01:25:46 Yeah I'm still getting used to qemu. Never actually used it before. Mar 25 01:25:56 And I gather it's not like vmware or others. Mar 25 01:26:10 im also an official mirror of ttylinux, atccss.net Mar 25 01:26:12 IE you don't actually set up a vm and install the software the way you do under vmware. Mar 25 01:26:17 * CorwinWeber nods Mar 25 01:26:32 I usually grab DSL because it's also small and light. Mar 25 01:26:35 Old. Mar 25 01:26:39 But basically functional. Mar 25 01:26:43 but its not the correct arch Mar 25 01:27:03 Ok I see what you're saying. You're starting out using arm. Mar 25 01:27:03 your working with arm right? Mar 25 01:27:08 yes Mar 25 01:27:15 Instead of just using a generic linux vm for the extraction. Mar 25 01:27:24 Got it. Mar 25 01:27:31 which may not work correctly Mar 25 01:27:36 when attempting a chroot Mar 25 01:27:54 nods Mar 25 01:28:37 ive actually got a headache i should go back to bed haha Mar 25 01:28:41 heh Mar 25 01:28:55 I started out the morning with minimal sleep and a nastycall from the gas company. Mar 25 01:29:02 bastards Mar 25 01:29:04 sucks Mar 25 01:29:06 ya Mar 25 01:29:12 NOT the way I wanted to start my day. Mar 25 01:29:21 im using aqemu gui front end. i dont see how i can add a folder as / Mar 25 01:29:32 i swore ive seen that option in other gui's Mar 25 01:30:19 Checking something. Mar 25 01:30:26 I don't THINK you can do this but it's worth checking. Mar 25 01:32:22 eh i guess my original idea with ttylinux is easier Mar 25 01:32:38 hell i should try installing ttylinux on my ipaq Mar 25 01:32:43 * CcSsNET gets attempting Mar 25 01:32:50 It'd actually be easiest if we could just set up a blank arm vm under vmware or virtualbox and extract to that. Mar 25 01:33:50 well to extract to such a situation u need to boot it first with an iso of that arch, download the image tarball to its tmp, format the target, extract to target Mar 25 01:34:32 Ok, there are enough people using this that we've got to be missing something. There's got to be a simpler way than this. Mar 25 01:35:15 eh not necisarily Mar 25 01:35:34 and judging from the /etc/passwd file im not sure i even want to use it Mar 25 01:53:43 Ok I think I can use qemu-arm to do this but I seriously need to eat. Mar 25 01:53:44 bbl Mar 25 01:53:47 * CorwinWeber waves Mar 25 02:47:46 back Mar 25 02:49:12 hi Mar 25 02:49:37 hi Mar 25 02:49:40 still looking Mar 25 02:49:43 im attempting a ttylinux build, going to learn this crosscompile system. its saner then oe i think Mar 25 02:50:10 trnscripts/dload.sh: line 179: TTYLINUX_LOADER: unbound variablernmake: *** [dload] Error 1 Mar 25 02:50:13 woops Mar 25 02:53:53 theres minimal arch's supported by ttylinux, but i see it as saner to work on it then this oe stuff. i cant stand bitbake Mar 25 02:53:54 nods Mar 25 02:53:54 Ok, from what I'm seeing if I do a command line tar -xjf on the rootfs archive to a mounted sdcard, it should extract it. Mar 25 02:53:54 Or at least that's what these web sites are implying. Mar 25 02:54:25 i already told u how Mar 25 02:54:45 tar -jxf some-image.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/1 Mar 25 02:54:57 assuming /mnt/1 is your sd card Mar 25 02:54:59