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Apr 03 14:48:47 <CaptainCrunch> i finally made progress with angstrom on pandabaord, only thing i struggle is getting dhcp to run dhclient refuses to configure wlan0 , which is up and running , "dhclient wlan0" says :execve (/etc/dhclient-script, ...): No such file or directory ;exiting.; wlan not found ;exiting. any ideas ?
Apr 03 15:33:57 <mrmichael> is it just me?  or does bitbake suck serious dick?
Apr 03 15:34:20 <mrmichael> is there anyone that actually participates on these IRC rooms?
Apr 03 15:34:29 <mrmichael> or do people just leave themselves open 
Apr 03 15:34:37 <mrmichael> and then go text their sweethearts
Apr 03 15:36:07 <kolla> I wish
Apr 03 15:36:49 <mrmichael> I change one line in a C file.  To rebuild the file takes...like 5 minutes?
Apr 03 15:37:20 <mrmichael> I'm working with OMAP3530 gumstix
Apr 03 15:37:28 <mrmichael> I make a change to message.c on gpp side
Apr 03 15:37:44 <mrmichael> first...I just try bitbake dsplink....
Apr 03 15:37:48 <mrmichael> it says "nothing to do"
Apr 03 15:37:58 <mrmichael> I changed a timestamp?
Apr 03 15:37:59 <mrmichael> um
Apr 03 15:38:12 <mrmichael> it's not bright enough to compare the timestamp of the .o with the .c from whence it came?
Apr 03 15:38:26 <mrmichael> so I do bitbake -f -c dsplink...
Apr 03 15:38:27 <XorA|gone> its sunday afternoon and its sunny, dont expect people to be around :-)
Apr 03 15:38:41 <XorA|gone> mrmichael: bitbake is not make
Apr 03 15:39:14 <mrmichael> I noticed...;)  So you're telling me that I should write my own make file, and then have bitbake CALL my make :)
Apr 03 15:39:26 <XorA|gone> mrmichael: exactly
Apr 03 15:39:31 <mrmichael> thank-you
Apr 03 15:39:35 <XorA|gone> mrmichael: bitbake is a simple task runner
Apr 03 15:40:05 <XorA|gone> mrmichael: but you found the -f flag, thats good, saves 30 mins of explanation :-D
Apr 03 15:40:17 <mrmichael> thanks alot.
Apr 03 15:40:32 <mrmichael> do you have any experience with the gumstix overo fire?
Apr 03 15:40:43 <XorA|gone> mrmichael: no, I only have beagleboards here
Apr 03 15:40:53 <XorA|gone> overo is omap3 though?
Apr 03 15:40:57 <mrmichael> ok.  But the dsplink is the same animal.  yes.
Apr 03 15:41:13 <mrmichael> so if I get "message" to work ( in sampless)
Apr 03 15:41:16 <XorA|gone> ah I dont really do DSP
Apr 03 15:41:21 <mrmichael> ok
Apr 03 15:41:25 <XorA|gone> best bet is #beagle 9-5 UK time
Apr 03 15:41:30 <XorA|gone> weekdays
Apr 03 15:41:31 <mrmichael> I'm just trying to set up a build environment
Apr 03 15:41:40 <XorA|gone> thats when the dsp dudes seem to be awake
Apr 03 15:41:41 <mrmichael> thank-you.
Apr 03 15:41:53 <mrmichael> trying to understand how and where things are plcaed
Apr 03 15:42:06 <XorA|gone> and gumstix themselves hang there :-D
Apr 03 15:42:25 <mrmichael> so chat #beagle, 9-5 uk time
Apr 03 15:42:27 <mrmichael> sounds good
Apr 03 15:42:41 <XorA|gone> well probably 9UK time -> 5pm USA time
Apr 03 15:43:01 <XorA|gone> thats the normal people are defineately awake times
Apr 03 15:43:06 <mrmichael> after 5pm usa time?
Apr 03 15:43:20 <XorA|gone> mrmichael: no idea, thats in the middle of the night for me
Apr 03 15:43:26 * XorA|gone is UK
Apr 03 15:43:49 <mrmichael> I see.  I'm probably up at those times.
Apr 03 15:44:25 <mrmichael> so when I bitbake my .c file, the .o is placed in work folder under tmp?
Apr 03 15:44:29 <mrmichael> within the tree
Apr 03 15:44:48 <XorA|gone> it will end up in ${WORKDIR} most likely
Apr 03 15:45:30 <mrmichael> is there a GOOD manual for this bitbake tool?  ?  should I look on openembedded.org?
Apr 03 15:45:34 <mrmichael> I'm not a python programmer yet
Apr 03 15:45:56 * XorA|gone isnt either, there is a bitbake manual, I think oe.org wiki has links to it
Apr 03 15:46:08 * XorA|gone has never read it, been in project since day one
Apr 03 15:46:29 <mrmichael> thanks for your help
Apr 03 15:46:43 <XorA|gone> no probs, just happened to answer my emails now
Apr 03 15:46:56 <mrmichael> u are in UK?
Apr 03 15:47:07 <XorA|gone> yes in Scotland
Apr 03 15:47:35 <mrmichael> what is the difference between overo-angstrom directory and armv7a directories under /tmp/work?
Apr 03 15:48:21 <XorA|gone> the overo one contains stuff specific to that board, like the kernel
Apr 03 15:48:38 <XorA|gone> the armv7a are re-used if you have multiple omap targets
Apr 03 15:48:58 <XorA|gone> for example if you compiled beagel/zoom2/overo in same tree, only the machine specific parts are rebuilt
Apr 03 15:49:10 <XorA|gone> the armv7a stuff isnt
Apr 03 15:50:42 <mrmichael> thanks for your support
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