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Jan 18 08:36:42 <rob_w> any suggestion beside ubifs and jffs2 as scaleable mtd filesystem in usage with angstrom images ?
Jan 18 09:34:46 <Spider-Pork> ubifs is better
Jan 18 09:48:47 <rob_w> but i ve suspects against ubifs 
Jan 18 10:03:42 <DJWillis> rob_w: what is your issue with UBI/UBIFS?
Jan 18 10:06:33 <Spider-Pork> ubifs is the next fs on flash memory and it substitute jffs2
Jan 18 10:06:35 <Spider-Pork> so use it
Jan 18 10:07:52 <Spider-Pork> rob_w: http://www.google.it/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ubifs%20vs%20jffs2&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.embedded-linux.co.uk%2Fdownloads%2FESC-5.4-flash_filesystems-slides.pdf&ei=hpkWT4aNF6z64QTq9M3qAw&usg=AFQjCNG-qyLxw9PBihxcMA3gBP-n-nJhNA&sig2=mpoC_JEMRRLNVYfM9AW93Q
Jan 18 10:08:03 <rob_w> well i agree with taht totally and the mount time alone makes me go for it .. i actually use it in all my units but i am huntig a bad kernel crash 
Jan 18 10:08:13 <rob_w> and i  like to alter the fs now to see if that is a difference 
Jan 18 10:08:27 <Spider-Pork> maybe you can try to paste crash on ideone or similar
Jan 18 10:08:37 <Spider-Pork> so people here can read it too
Jan 18 10:08:49 <rob_w> that is my problem .. i dont have any crash debug at all 
Jan 18 10:09:13 <rob_w> after various times 2-14 days my kernel stops and my watchdog pulls 
Jan 18 10:09:40 <rob_w> so iam totally blind and have no way to determine the cause of the stop 
Jan 18 10:10:07 <rob_w> we activated the watchdog as final solution so our customers dont burn down the company 
Jan 18 10:10:40 <rob_w> although i even switch ubifs ro and copy the content to a ramdisk and pivot_root there 
Jan 18 10:11:12 <rob_w> maybe i should again port the latest official ubifs to my 2.6.37 ( which i have to use for various other reasons)
Jan 18 10:11:22 <Spider-Pork> if you don't know where is the problem why you are asking about ubifs vs jffs2?
Jan 18 10:12:09 <rob_w> its one of the aspects i could change and are low enough imho to crash a system such hard (beside hw issues) 
Jan 18 10:12:13 <Spider-Pork> you should put a test board with serial console output an log it, waiting the crash
Jan 18 10:12:25 <rob_w> done that .. no putput at all 
Jan 18 10:12:35 <Spider-Pork> uh?
Jan 18 10:13:30 <Spider-Pork> syslog what says?
Jan 18 10:13:52 <rob_w> syslog was directed to eth and mmc card .. no entry 
Jan 18 10:13:54 <Spider-Pork> what board ar you using?
Jan 18 10:14:11 <Spider-Pork> *are
Jan 18 10:14:18 <rob_w> we use a omap3530 / 3730 com module on custom baseboards
Jan 18 10:14:52 <Spider-Pork> try to put dmesg output on serial console with a custom C/python/bash app
Jan 18 10:14:58 <Spider-Pork> and wait the crash
Jan 18 10:15:03 <Spider-Pork> you'll get a log
Jan 18 10:15:14 <Spider-Pork> and then you'll can figure out what's wrong
Jan 18 10:15:30 <rob_w> how you mean ? polling dmesg all the time ?
Jan 18 10:15:34 <Spider-Pork> yep
Jan 18 10:15:40 <rob_w> hmm
Jan 18 10:16:11 <Spider-Pork> and verify the latest "stable" kernel for your module
Jan 18 10:16:20 <Spider-Pork> for example on gumstix is 2.6.34
Jan 18 10:16:30 <Spider-Pork> that has a omap3530
Jan 18 10:16:33 <Spider-Pork> *an
Jan 18 10:16:35 <rob_w> i know .. 
Jan 18 10:16:40 <rob_w> k
Jan 18 12:46:00 <CIA-2> angstrom: 03testlab <testlab@angstrom> 07yocto * reb22cabc90 10testlab/beaglebone/eglibc/Cloud9-IDE/build-id: beaglebone: Cloud9-IDE configured for angstrom v2012.01-core using branch angstrom-staging and revision 49849c3294e1a7efd9b47d5e11f2a2e8e604f177
Jan 18 14:26:55 <foobla> hello
Jan 18 14:29:19 <foobla> i want to install narcissuson my localhost for testing... but where can i find the binaries i have to copy into narcissus/bin?
Jan 18 15:34:19 <jsabeaudry> What is the right file if I want to add to the PATH for non-interactive shells on angstrom?
Jan 18 16:00:12 <fullstop> Hi all.  I'm getting started with angstrom/oe and I have a few questions regarding building images with bitbake.
Jan 18 16:00:35 <fullstop> I'm coming from a buildroot background, so the whole bitbake thing is a little different from what I am used to.
Jan 18 16:01:24 <fullstop> in local.conf, I set: TARGET_OS = "linux-uclibc"
Jan 18 16:01:40 <fullstop> but when I build my image, eglibc has been used.
Jan 18 16:47:41 <CIA-2> angstrom: 03testlab <testlab@angstrom> 07yocto * r6879b57f9e 10testlab/beagleboard/eglibc/Cloud9-IDE/ (5 files): beagleboard: Cloud9-IDE configured for angstrom v2012.01-core using branch angstrom-staging and revision 49849c3294e1a7efd9b47d5e11f2a2e8e604f177
Jan 18 17:41:25 <denisATeukrea> hi, what's the preferred way to change udev version in meta-angstrom
Jan 18 17:41:27 <denisATeukrea> there is that:
Jan 18 17:41:29 <denisATeukrea> PREFERRED_VERSION_udev = "175"
Jan 18 17:41:52 <denisATeukrea> in distro/include/angstrom-2010-preferred-versions.inc
Jan 18 17:42:03 <denisATeukrea> so I wonder how to override
Jan 18 17:43:23 <denisATeukrea> because that put in an include file required by local.conf:
Jan 18 17:44:51 <denisATeukrea> PREFERRED_VERSION_udev = "164"
Jan 18 17:45:05 <denisATeukrea> and that fails
Jan 18 17:45:14 <denisATeukrea> fails means that udev 175 is chosen
Jan 18 17:52:06 <denisATeukrea> ?= for udev 175 works
Jan 18 17:52:12 <denisATeukrea> I mean it get overriden
Jan 18 17:52:22 <denisATeukrea> that was discussed many times on ml I guess
Jan 18 17:52:25 <denisATeukrea> at oe-classic times
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