**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 17 02:59:58 2012 Mar 17 06:52:16 if i do a bitbake console-image -c clean, do i have to delete the console-image file from the deploy directory? Mar 17 07:30:01 i guess not Mar 17 10:13:17 JViz, yes u have to delete Mar 17 18:59:19 is there anyway to list commands for a given bitbake target? Mar 17 18:59:25 *any way Mar 17 19:00:26 woot, found it Mar 17 19:00:31 listtasks Mar 17 21:04:51 I'm building an Angstrom image for my N800 - for WiFi connectivity using X11+Matchbox, do I need to install which package? wireless-tools, Moblin Connection Manager, NetworkManager, or something else? Mar 17 21:56:32 ... Mar 17 22:04:41 any ideas? Mar 17 22:19:56 Hello? Mar 17 23:56:25 NetworkManager is the most common in general. not so sure for that particular device and drivers Mar 18 00:08:40 N800 has modules that are built in to the kernel Mar 18 00:08:56 sorry for being so long, fracking with this android device from hell Mar 18 00:09:03 nothing works on it at all Mar 18 00:54:57 n800 is not an android device Mar 18 00:55:06 its meamo4 gnu/linux Mar 18 00:55:30 i owned one recently Mar 18 00:55:35 well the n810 Mar 18 01:02:36 I had a diff. device Mar 18 01:02:50 a tablet that needed some upgrades Mar 18 01:02:58 but everything shit the bed in it Mar 18 01:03:05 I managed to get the android working again. Mar 18 01:03:15 My N800 is still snug and safe Mar 18 01:03:39 hmm Mar 18 01:28:47 hi Mar 18 01:29:04 is anyone here familiar with u-boot? Mar 18 01:30:12 yes Mar 18 01:30:19 ask away Mar 18 01:31:31 I'm using a uEnv.txt file to set environment variables, and u-boot is telling me that it is reading that file when I start up my BeagleBoard-xM (the embedded system I'm using) Mar 18 01:31:47 but none of the variables are actually being set or used when it boots Mar 18 01:31:59 hmm Mar 18 01:32:25 and also when I try to push a key during the "press any key to stop autoboot" countdown nothing happens and it still does everything automatically Mar 18 01:32:35 i havent actually used that file myself. i just login to uboot via serial port and pressing enter imediately. then i used setenv command Mar 18 01:32:43 hmm Mar 18 01:32:58 sounds like u might not have pins correct for serial access Mar 18 01:33:30 I can still use Angstrom through the host-pc once it has loaded though Mar 18 01:33:47 though some characters appear as random symbols instead of what they are supposed to look like Mar 18 01:33:56 well. do you have a serial cable working? Mar 18 01:34:05 yeah Mar 18 01:34:12 o ok. yea you may have 2 wires reversed Mar 18 01:34:21 clearly those would be ground and tx Mar 18 01:34:27 rx seems fine Mar 18 01:34:37 my cable is a 9-pin serial connector to USB Mar 18 01:34:43 O.o Mar 18 01:34:47 and I'm using minicom to talk to the board Mar 18 01:34:51 hmm Mar 18 01:35:01 well thats a jtag cable it sounds like Mar 18 01:35:20 im not familar with them specificly. but you only need in this case. GND, TX, RX Mar 18 01:35:37 and specificly he ones i mentioned seem reversed Mar 18 01:35:40 the* Mar 18 01:35:57 hmm Mar 18 01:36:07 I wish my host pc had a serial port Mar 18 01:36:11 no Mar 18 01:36:14 bad Mar 18 01:36:21 diferent voltage most likely Mar 18 01:36:35 you actually are doing good using that usb to serial cable Mar 18 01:36:43 its steping the voltage down for you Mar 18 01:36:47 ah Mar 18 01:36:51 :) Mar 18 01:37:01 most embedded devices are 3.3v Mar 18 01:37:09 pc com port is 5v i think Mar 18 01:39:10 I wonder if putting a boot.scr file in the boot partition, then saying to run that file in uEnv.txt would work differently Mar 18 01:41:54 by the way, what does the echo command in u-boot do? Mar 18 01:42:17 didnt know it had one Mar 18 01:42:40 ive used: printenv, setenv, update_kernel and related. such as help Mar 18 01:42:50 I need to figure out some way to verify that uEnv.txt is actually doing something Mar 18 01:43:07 watching serial port is most ideal Mar 18 01:43:08 u-boot says it's loading but it doesn't appear to be doing anything at all at this point Mar 18 01:43:30 what os is host os? Mar 18 01:43:37 from the pc connected to usb Mar 18 01:43:39 Ubuntu Mar 18 01:43:41 ok Mar 18 01:43:49 apt-get install screen Mar 18 01:44:03 screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 Mar 18 01:44:14 that should connect to serial cable Mar 18 01:44:25 if minicom is painfull Mar 18 01:44:42 ctrl-a d Mar 18 01:44:49 to detach that screen session Mar 18 01:44:49 I tried screen before, but it also has some strange looking symbols Mar 18 01:45:00 yea definatly the wires then Mar 18 01:45:11 how many you have actually connected? Mar 18 01:45:17 there is just a single wire Mar 18 01:45:39 o. a single block header for the multiple pins? Mar 18 01:46:17 yeah Mar 18 01:46:21 ouch Mar 18 01:46:31 and to think that should make things easier Mar 18 01:46:32 .. Mar 18 01:47:22 well good luck. as i stated prior. GND, TX, RX are the serial cable wires Mar 18 01:47:37 and from the sounds of it, GND and TX happen to be reversed Mar 18 01:47:53 hmm Mar 18 01:48:06 well I'll try and figure something out Mar 18 01:48:13 thanks for the help! Mar 18 01:48:24 if that fails, put them back to where they where. and verify cable is not broken wire Mar 18 01:48:49 yup no problem Mar 18 01:49:16 http://atccss.net is my website Mar 18 01:52:18 cool, is it like a hardware review blog? Mar 18 01:52:37 sorta. hardware, linux, hacking, programming Mar 18 01:52:44 some games Mar 18 01:53:23 but mostly personal programming fufillment Mar 18 01:53:32 all site code is mine :) Mar 18 01:53:41 not bad ^.^ Mar 18 01:54:12 I don't have any time to work on hobby projects at the moment, I really need to figure out this u-boot stuff soon and then a million other things :P Mar 18 01:54:20 working on my senior project so I can graduate from college Mar 18 01:54:58 ah Mar 18 01:55:09 college = waste of my money and time Mar 18 01:55:22 my opinion Mar 18 01:55:24 yeah it really is Mar 18 01:55:40 sure, im all for learning all the time, infact i research daily Mar 18 01:55:58 but im not willing to pay someone else for the fact that i am going to be researching Mar 18 01:56:07 ;) Mar 18 01:56:29 I spent almost all my time covering an extremely broad range of topics, far too wide for most people to make use of in a meaningful way Mar 18 01:56:39 see Mar 18 01:56:45 then senior year rolls around and I get a project that focuses on things that I didn't learn at all Mar 18 01:56:50 and I have to figure it out on my own anyways :P Mar 18 01:56:54 everything i research, i have a need/use for Mar 18 01:57:15 or at the least an interest in. Mar 18 01:57:33 which usually ties into other two reasons in some form Mar 18 01:58:24 if i went back to college it would be for english courses. spanish courses, japanese, and manderan. in no particular order. i do see that as usefull money spent Mar 18 01:58:46 it would be cool to speak that many languages Mar 18 01:58:51 lol ya Mar 18 01:59:18 my senior project looks pretty grim at this point :P but maybe I can pull it off if I spend a ton of time with it Mar 18 01:59:28 hmph Mar 18 01:59:39 even if I don't have something working by the end of the semester though I think I'll still pass and graduate Mar 18 01:59:48 cool Mar 18 01:59:56 i droped out of college in 2003 Mar 18 02:00:08 was trying a dual major as well Mar 18 02:00:12 so was painfull Mar 18 02:00:25 CS/CJ Mar 18 02:00:32 what's CJ stand for? Mar 18 02:00:39 criminal justice Mar 18 02:00:44 ah Mar 18 02:01:01 I'm doing computer engineering which is like a mix between computer science and electrical engineering where you don't cover either subject particularly well Mar 18 02:01:09 but from the intro course. you would think... brainwashing, ignorant, judgement and lack of sympothetic reasoning Mar 18 02:01:35 CJ ^ Mar 18 02:01:54 ah nice. ive done a little electronics Mar 18 02:01:57 but not a lot Mar 18 02:02:22 i can test basic stuff. but you wont find me tracing pcbs Mar 18 02:03:54 I haven't done anything very advanced Mar 18 02:04:13 the coolest thing I did so far was building a TV remote out of a microcontroller, but it was hardly a practical project Mar 18 02:04:22 ah Mar 18 02:04:22 100+ bucks for a junky basic remote XD Mar 18 02:04:34 impractical teaching is the only thing colleges do Mar 18 02:04:56 they keep themselfs distant from mainstream trends so they can charge more for (advanced courses) Mar 18 02:05:30 yay, screen let me disable the autoboot Mar 18 02:05:35 but at least your learning the same way as everyone else Mar 18 02:05:48 cool Mar 18 02:05:49 im just gonna try entering all the environment variables manually and then boot and see what happens Mar 18 02:05:55 nice Mar 18 02:06:01 dont use = sign with setenv Mar 18 02:06:03 just a space Mar 18 02:06:05 ;) Mar 18 02:06:06 ok Mar 18 02:08:01 this is possibly the most chatter angstrom had all week Mar 18 02:11:53 bah this isn't going to work Mar 18 02:12:05 too many characters are getting messed up Mar 18 02:14:25 well it sucks that I can't work with u-boot outside of editing files Mar 18 02:14:38 maybe I should try working with a different host PC and different cables Mar 18 02:14:59 but I'm gonna have to order new cables which will be a pretty big time setback Mar 18 02:22:47 wow, it seems like I've actually managed to get the software that wasn't working properly to work now Mar 18 02:22:54 I wish there werent a billion random characters on screen though Mar 18 02:23:13 now i just have to figure out how to make this happen automatically when I start the board Mar 18 02:38:50 back Mar 18 02:39:14 nice ^ Mar 18 02:41:00 i suggest just buying one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-to-Serial-Adapter-PL2303-TTL-Cable-Module-Console-Recovery-RS232-New-/280735751467?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415d279d2b Mar 18 02:41:15 you might find it for cheaper. but thats the exact one i use Mar 18 02:42:08 internally it has a max232 chip which is a dc 2 dc 5v to 3.3v step down Mar 18 02:42:21 or something like that Mar 18 02:42:28 reason the usb end is longer then usual Mar 18 02:46:14 thats pretty cool Mar 18 02:46:17 I'll bookmark it Mar 18 02:47:23 so my software is working when I can set the proper bootargs in u-boot Mar 18 02:47:35 I guess if I can get them set automatically then there's at least some light at the end of the tunnel :P Mar 18 02:48:17 anyways its break time for me Mar 18 02:48:21 thanks a lot for the help **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 18 02:59:59 2012