**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 21 02:59:58 2012 Mar 21 05:19:48 Does anyone here used Angstrom with mini2440 before? Mar 21 05:24:32 !logs Mar 21 11:10:47 is the arago site down? Mar 21 11:21:04 no idea Mar 21 13:16:06 I'm having trouble using upgrade system after installing Angstrom via loopback on my iPAQ. Where I am: I can see a "Linux-USB Serial Gadget" via lsusb, but I can't get connected to my network. Mar 21 13:34:49 is it the room for angstroms distrubition? Mar 21 13:36:05 aye Mar 21 13:36:55 is there any toolchain for angstroms distribution that I can develop program on windows environment? Mar 21 13:37:44 no Mar 21 13:38:12 I think codesourcery (or whatever they are called these days) do a commercial one Mar 21 13:38:48 How do I upgrade my iPAQ with Angstrom installed via loopback? Mar 21 13:38:56 easiest is to use a linux build machine Mar 21 13:39:06 I tried to install toolchain for QT SDK and eclipse on ubuntu but I could not manage it. Do you know is there any good instruction for beginners to install the toolchain? Mar 21 13:39:13 audiodef: no idea sorry, about 1000 years since I even saw an ipaq and never used ont Mar 21 13:39:15 one Mar 21 13:39:33 Is Linux on iPAQ just plain dead then? Mar 21 13:40:04 I am very new on linux that's why I am having problem. I have been trying to install the tool chain but I could not do it. I would be glad if you could advise any good source for beginners Mar 21 13:40:10 ohs: sudo apt-get install gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi will get you the compiler on any recent ubuntu Mar 21 13:40:36 gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi is actually better Mar 21 13:40:51 then that selects the correct version for your ubuntu version for youi Mar 21 13:41:37 audiodef: apparently not, but no idea whether its just one dude left or if there is a community hiding out there somewhere. The closure of handhelds.org killed pretty much all the info Mar 21 13:42:15 XorA: I can't believe nobody mirrored the site or hosted the Familiar packages somewhere. 0_0 Mar 21 13:42:40 familiar seemed to end up with a very public bitch fight Mar 21 13:42:53 then they all slapped each other to death as far as I can see Mar 21 13:42:53 Really? What happened? Mar 21 13:43:44 thank you very much XorA, I am going to try to install it Mar 21 13:43:46 not really sure, but I got insults flung at me from handheld.org people on channels even though I had zero to do with familiar, and things went downhill Mar 21 13:44:12 Wow. That's crazy. 0_0 Mar 21 13:44:28 thats linux unfortuneately :-) Mar 21 13:44:46 what happens when you get too many borderline autistics in a small box Mar 21 13:44:58 I have a beaglebone and it runs angstroms distribution. should I download gcc-4.4-arm-linux-gnueabi or angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 ? Mar 21 13:45:24 Yeah, I guess borderline autism and Linux don't mix. Mar 21 13:45:30 I thought boney came with an IDE and stuffs? Mar 21 13:45:43 i suggest to use codesourcery compiler Mar 21 13:45:47 or am I mistaken, my bone has some interim build of Angstom on it Mar 21 13:45:48 is free Mar 21 13:46:02 CSL compiler is inferior to the one ubuntu package Mar 21 13:46:17 really? Mar 21 13:46:21 ubuntu one and the linked angstrom toolchain should be pretty similar Mar 21 13:46:38 Well, I'm not sure if my question is iPAQ-specific. I can follow all the instructions here (http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/AngstromManual#InstallingSoftwareandPackageManagement) but I'm still not able to upgrade. I'm wondering what I could have done wrong. Mar 21 13:46:46 yeah, Linaro is leading edge of arm gcc these days Mar 21 13:47:23 ok thank you Mar 21 13:47:44 how can I install angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 to eclipse or Qt SDK? Mar 21 13:47:51 although if you deal with TI kernels they wont compile with modern gcc and you have to fall back to CSL Mar 21 13:48:03 ohs: you can create a meta-toolchain-qte using OE and then use qtcreator to work with it. With gdbserver over ssh on your target, this works quite not bad Mar 21 13:48:28 * XorA has never used QT SDK, and eclipse I always use in makefile mode Mar 21 13:48:50 ericben: thank you for the reply. what are the commands to do these things that you told? Mar 21 13:49:38 XorA: I am a n00b in linux and programming :) I need a SDK Mar 21 13:49:41 [14:47:22] although if you deal with TI kernels they wont compile with modern gcc and you have to fall back to CSL ---> i'm using TI devices Mar 21 13:49:46 ohs: seems angstrom has toolchains for qte : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ Mar 21 13:50:05 Spider-Pork: me too, I spend a lot of time compiling Gingerbread and ICS Mar 21 13:50:16 cool :) Mar 21 13:50:31 kernels, not the whole shebang Mar 21 13:50:35 maybe on a pandaboard? Mar 21 13:50:38 ohs: and qtreator is available on nokia's website. Once you have your project, do . /usr/local/angstrom/arm/environment-setup and launch qtcreator from the shell where your sources the toolchain's env, then qtcrerator will dtect the angstrom toolchain Mar 21 13:50:47 Spider-Pork: mainline linux on my pandaboard Mar 21 13:51:04 are you using angstrom on panda? Mar 21 13:51:08 Spider-Pork: yes Mar 21 13:51:19 i used ubuntu but is full of bugs Mar 21 13:51:26 like freeze Mar 21 13:51:43 ericben: thank you very much Mar 21 13:51:54 and can you have GPU TI acceleration? Mar 21 13:51:57 Spider-Pork: console only, nothing complex Mar 21 13:51:58 one day people will understand that ubuntu is not an embedded distribution ;-) Mar 21 13:52:18 XorA: was ubuntu desktop with USB disk as / Mar 21 13:52:18 even if vendors have fun to propose it on their avaluation boards ! Mar 21 13:53:07 and if you run heavily with ethernet and USB disk (like in apt-get upgrade) you can see random freeze Mar 21 13:53:09 \o/ Mar 21 13:53:22 eth is on USB too Mar 21 13:54:41 * XorA has a PC to run windows on, no need to do that on bare pcbs :-D Mar 21 13:55:04 I know but that device has low power consuption Mar 21 13:55:15 5w vs 100 or more Mar 21 13:55:31 yeah but then I cant just double click on WoW :-D Mar 21 13:55:41 ahahahahah Mar 21 13:56:23 you can use it as multimedia device, with torrent client, xbmc and uPnP multemedia server for your xbox (for example) Mar 21 13:56:43 and with GPU TI driver xbmc works better Mar 21 13:57:03 with 5w Mar 21 13:57:35 i will try it Mar 21 13:57:44 just need *only* free time Mar 21 13:58:54 * XorA has a sheeva to do all the networky stuffs Mar 21 14:00:07 I have not a sheeva :( Mar 21 14:00:18 it rocks Mar 21 14:04:00 really? Mar 21 14:04:09 maybe i can find it on ebay Mar 21 14:08:28 armv5 but mines been running debian testing for years now :-D Mar 21 14:09:30 only thing that ever kills it is once the SD card died, and twice Ive trippped the circuit breakers :-D Mar 21 14:14:09 angstrom: 03Koen Kooi  07master * r9540cd1dc7 10meta-angstrom/conf/distro/include/angstrom-2010-preferred-versions.inc: Mar 21 14:14:10 angstrom: angstrom: prefer udev 182 Mar 21 14:14:10 angstrom: Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Mar 21 14:15:10 XorA: cool Mar 21 14:22:37 oh and once a lightning storm blew the internal 5v PSU, so I cut that out and wired in a wall wart Mar 21 14:37:36 arrg, scheduling while atomic Mar 21 14:47:09 audiodef: btw, I'm the guy who is holding the candle for ipaq support these days Mar 21 14:47:45 audiodef: unfortunately I haven't been able to spend as much time as I would like on actual integration Mar 21 14:49:11 bluelightning: sorry totally forgot about you Mar 21 14:49:28 XorA: no worries :) Mar 21 14:49:32 bluelightning: Hi. :) Well, if I can help, with testing or whatever, I'd be glad to. Mar 21 14:49:41 * XorA erects a big sign pointing at bluelightning Mar 21 14:49:47 audiodef: thanks, I welcome any help I can get :) Mar 21 14:50:16 bluelightning: OK. Just let me know what I can do. I'll PM you an email address in case you want to drop me some info or ask me to try something. Mar 21 14:50:25 audiodef: basically, with the new OpenEmbedded structure, all of the ipaq-specific stuff is isolated in a layer called meta-handheld Mar 21 14:51:16 audiodef: one of the problems we have is the working kernel for many of the older ipaqs is an ancient fork and getting it to work on a "modern" system is challenging Mar 21 14:53:25 bluelightning: Since I just learned that handhelds.org committed suicide, I'd love to see Angstrom continue to grow, so mi devicia es su devicia. Well, kinda. ;) Mar 21 14:53:42 heh, thanks :) Mar 21 14:55:42 * XorA even managed to finally rid himself of zauruses :-D Mar 21 14:57:58 XorA: I know you were happy about that :) Mar 21 14:58:19 it was getting a bit ridiculous around ehre Mar 21 16:32:15 Hi, I have a couple of questions regarding configuring Angstrom build, can anyone help? Mar 21 17:02:40 i bitbaked qt4-embedded, but it didn't end up on my console-image, what do i have to do to get it on there? Mar 21 17:07:58 why do all of the qt4-embedded libs have E tagged on the end? Mar 21 17:17:03 can i just add QT_LIBINFIX = E to my mkspec? Mar 21 17:17:09 gonna try it Mar 21 17:28:19 JViz: I believe it's so they can coexist within the sysroot with the x11 versions Mar 21 17:29:28 when i deploy my app, i'm getting "error while loading shared libraries: libQtNetwork.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" Mar 21 17:30:14 the libs all have the trailing E on the embedded host Mar 21 17:31:25 i think it's because my local cross compiled version of qt4-embedded doesn't have the trailing E Mar 21 17:31:43 almost certainly Mar 21 17:32:00 why not build your app from a recipe? that would take care of that Mar 21 17:32:09 i'm using qt-creator Mar 21 17:32:15 ah, I see Mar 21 17:32:29 i'm a noob, i like IDEs :) Mar 21 17:33:00 it has built in cross compiling, deployment, and debugging i'd like to take advantage of Mar 21 17:34:38 presumably you could rebuild your local cross-compiled qte to have QT_LIBINFIX Mar 21 17:36:10 that's what i'm doing, i was just unsure as to what file to put the var in Mar 21 17:36:57 i just dropped it in the mkspec and crossed my fingers Mar 21 17:50:26 JViz: if that doesn't work you may wish to try the -qtlibinfix option to configure, that looks like it might be the official way to do it Mar 21 18:11:55 so the mkspec thing didn't work, time to send the configure option! Mar 21 20:29:10 I would like to assign a static IP to my beaglebone. I set the following configurations http://pastebin.com/2t1rMsQg when I type /etc/init.d/networking restart the IP has not changed the pc still gets the IP from dhcp. can anyone tell me what I do wrong? Mar 21 20:29:16 I use beaglebone A3 Mar 21 20:29:26 that runs angstroms distrubition Mar 21 20:45:47 ohs: is that auto eth0 line doing it? Mar 21 20:46:01 yes Mar 21 20:46:25 * JViz claps Mar 21 20:47:01 someone told me that the second line is broken and it should be on the first line. so I edited it, it worked fine. but when I restart the machine, I can not see the machine on the internet Mar 21 20:47:04 it has no IP Mar 21 20:47:11 oh Mar 21 20:47:30 i have the same problem, i have to restart networking Mar 21 20:47:35 do you think that the second line on http://pastebin.com/2t1rMsQg is wrong? Mar 21 20:48:44 I restarted the beaglebone and it got its ip from dhcp again Mar 21 20:48:46 looks like a line wrap Mar 21 20:51:11 when the bone is restarted it gets the IP from dhcp server, however when /etc/init.d/networking restart is executed, it gets the static IP Mar 21 20:51:19 have you ever experienced this problem? Mar 21 20:51:31 or do you have any idea how I can solve the problem? Mar 21 20:51:40 i have a different problem, mine won't even get dhcp Mar 21 20:51:52 it just sits there like a lump, till i restart networking from serial Mar 21 20:53:11 have you also edited /etc/network/interfaces? Mar 21 20:53:27 nope Mar 21 20:53:38 i want it to have dhcp Mar 21 20:54:16 as default it suppose to have dhcp as default I guess Mar 21 20:54:24 yeah Mar 21 20:54:34 it works fine with the demo image Mar 21 20:54:49 but i get this problem when i build a console-image with angstrom Mar 21 20:55:16 er, custom kernel Mar 21 20:55:52 I have no idea, I am a noob in linux:) maybe someone experienced can help us Mar 21 20:56:11 well, you're in the right file Mar 21 20:57:04 http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/ Mar 21 20:57:15 I found here that he explains the solution of my problem Mar 21 20:57:34 I will try to follow his instruction Mar 21 20:58:49 your file should look something like this: Mar 21 20:58:50 http://pastebin.com/WYhz8bvB Mar 21 21:00:16 yeah thank you, I edited it as you suggested Mar 21 21:00:51 the problem, when I restart beaglebone, it gets IP from dhcp unless I execute /etc/init.d/networking restart Mar 21 21:00:53 make sure you don't have any spurious new lines in it, or it breaks Mar 21 21:00:55 each time Mar 21 21:01:15 oh Mar 21 21:01:26 did you make your own /boot parition? Mar 21 21:01:32 it is like semistatic with this command :) Mar 21 21:01:39 no Mar 21 21:01:45 I have only one partition I guess Mar 21 21:02:10 you probably need to put ip_method=none in your uEnv.txt, which is in your boot partition Mar 21 21:02:38 I used win32diskimager to load the image on SD card Mar 21 21:03:21 sorry I could not understand what is the need of this partition thing? Mar 21 21:08:38 when you copied the image to the sdcard using win32diskimager, the image creates 2 partitions on the disk Mar 21 21:08:42 one is a boot partition Mar 21 21:08:47 the other is a linux root paritition Mar 21 21:09:07 boot partition has the bootloader and the linux kernel on it Mar 21 21:09:41 u-boot defaults to grabbing a dhcp address by default Mar 21 21:10:44 if you put a uEnv.txt file with the line ip_method=none on the same parition as u-boot.img, then it'll skip getting an address Mar 21 21:10:47 bbl Mar 21 21:10:57 I got it now:) thank you Mar 21 21:11:33 do you know the directory of uEnv.txt? Mar 21 21:11:53 or how can I find its location Mar 21 21:14:14 ok I found it :) Mar 21 21:14:41 only optargs=run_hardware_tests quiet Mar 21 21:14:41 is written Mar 21 21:15:12 so I am adding ip_method=none Mar 21 21:16:33 Where do I find hicolor-icon-theme? ipkg install gpe-todo and leafpad both failed because ipkg couldn't find hicolo-icon-theme. Mar 21 21:19:12 what do I type wrong? root@beaglebone:/# opkg install connman-tests Mar 21 21:19:12 Unknown package 'connman-tests'. Mar 21 21:19:12 Collected errors: Mar 21 21:19:12 * pkg_get_installed_files: Failed to open //var/lib/opkg/info/perl-module-pluggable.pm.list: No such file or directory. Mar 21 21:19:12 * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package connman-tests. Mar 21 21:49:00 What's a good notepad-type program for something the size of an iPAQ? Leafpad's dialogues are way too big to be useful. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 22 02:59:57 2012