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May 22 10:42:59 <zoidberg_> hi there
May 22 10:43:05 <zoidberg_> how are you all
May 22 10:43:18 <zoidberg_> i've got a problem 
May 22 10:43:40 <zoidberg_> there once was a angstrom image for the ipaq h3800 /h3600
May 22 10:44:28 <zoidberg_> i have them both and i wanted to play around a bit with that old hardware but handhelds.org is down so there is no repo for familiar so it sucks
May 22 10:44:39 <zoidberg_> also a 2.4.19 kernel is a bit old
May 22 10:44:46 <zoidberg_> can someone help?
May 22 10:45:34 <zoidberg_> 4~
May 22 10:45:43 <zoidberg_> is anybody out there?
May 22 10:46:36 <zoidberg_> hi there
May 22 10:47:21 <enrico_> hello all, anyone knows if USB and HDMI support are build inside the kernel?
May 22 10:48:04 <zoidberg_> i think these people have died long time ago
May 22 10:48:23 <zoidberg_> i feel like in the mines of moria :-)
May 22 10:54:07 <zoidberg_> harro
May 22 10:54:09 <zoidberg_> ?
May 22 11:03:07 <zoidberg_> hello zap
May 22 11:03:23 <zoidberg_> you know where the > <http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/h3800/20070709/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070711-h3800.rootfs.jffs2> has gone
May 22 11:07:09 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: I would like to support those machines
May 22 11:07:25 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: the problem is a lack of an up-to-date / working kernel
May 22 11:07:57 <zoidberg_> there was a 2.6 kernel on hh.org but science hh.org is down... 
May 22 11:08:19 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: I'm the maintainer of the meta-handheld layer for OpenEmbedded so I'm kind of the torch-carrier for all old iPAQs :)
May 22 11:08:37 <zoidberg_> i would need a toolchain for the processor, and if you would like to support i would offer me as a tester
May 22 11:08:54 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: thanks
May 22 11:09:14 <zoidberg_> ah nice i love those old ipaqs :-) the sleeve system is just awesome...
May 22 11:09:22 <bluelightning> yeah I always liked it too
May 22 11:10:03 <zoidberg_> and i could develop something too...
May 22 11:10:14 <zoidberg_> do you know where this image has gone too?
May 22 11:11:15 <zoidberg_> or where i can find something usable , because the familiar distribution is a little... gnaa :-)
May 22 11:13:55 <zoidberg_> i'm a big fan of recycling old hardware, and i think there are very many old ipaqs lying around somewhere and waiting to be used useful.
May 22 11:16:59 <zoidberg_> bluelightning are you on a mailing list? so we could sttay in touch?
May 22 11:17:37 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: I'm on the openembedded and angstrom mailing lists
May 22 11:17:47 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: I do wonder if we should set up one specifically for handheld stuff though
May 22 11:18:36 <zoidberg_> this would be nice maybe there are more people with old handhelds...
May 22 11:19:04 <zoidberg_> there once was a mailing list  from handhelds.org, but its down since years :-)
May 22 11:19:04 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: in the mean time you can get hold of me at bluelightning at bluelightning dot org
May 22 11:19:14 <bluelightning> yes, we lost quite a bit when that went down
May 22 11:19:31 <bluelightning> FYI you can still find the old handhelds wiki via archive.org though
May 22 11:20:35 <zoidberg_> i know but the ftp is down and the repositorys for familiar
May 22 11:20:47 <bluelightning> sure
May 22 11:21:05 <bluelightning> even if they were available though I'm not sure they'd be much use - we need something maintained
May 22 11:21:25 <bluelightning> it's just so hard keeping things working :/
May 22 11:21:49 <zoidberg_> i know
May 22 11:22:00 <zoidberg_> i just sent you a email so you have my mail adress too
May 22 11:22:09 <bluelightning> ok cool
May 22 11:23:21 <zoidberg_> familiar was also very buggy... especially the wlan drivers and software, and the implementations of ext and ext2 and other file systems in the kernel it was done by modules wich sucks... :-)
May 22 11:25:13 <zoidberg_> the cool thing is that the h3800 has 30 megabytes main memory and 64 megabytes of ram this is enough for a decent kernel and the gibberish around
May 22 11:25:31 <zoidberg_> my h3600 has only 16 meg space
May 22 11:25:36 <zoidberg_> and 30 ram
May 22 11:26:49 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: yeah they're cool devices
May 22 11:26:53 <bluelightning> brb
May 22 11:27:15 <zoidberg_> maybe we could set something like hh.org up, but better... and online
May 22 11:37:38 <zoidberg_> its 1337 o clock
May 22 11:37:40 <zoidberg_> here
May 22 11:42:33 <francesco_> hi all, I have a question about Angstrom version and building package with openembedded. Is there someone that can help me?
May 22 11:59:34 <zoidberg_> hi i'm back
May 22 12:00:15 * XorA hides from the strange crab man
May 22 12:00:41 <XorA> zoidberg_: liniux2go is like hh.org but up
May 22 12:01:05 <XorA> zoidberg_: and better, and even better spelled right :-D
May 22 12:05:42 <zoidberg_> hehe i'm not strange i have a doctor in human genetics but i lost it in a vulcano :-)
May 22 12:05:54 <zoidberg_> ah ok nice i'm gonna check out this site
May 22 12:07:52 <zoidberg_> dafuq i can only find linux2go and this is a shop
May 22 12:16:44 * zoidberg_ is happy that he can help
May 22 12:16:53 <zoidberg_> huraaay zoidberg can help
May 22 12:23:53 * zoidberg_ is afk
May 22 12:31:18 <danieldeusing> a simple linux question: a program puts his output to /dev/ttyS2. how can I read it ?
May 22 12:36:20 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: linuxtogo.org
May 22 12:50:38 <zoidberg_> ah ok thanks
May 22 12:50:44 * zoidberg_ is back
May 22 12:59:23 <zoidberg_> http://oe.linuxtogo.org/ is down?
May 22 13:03:42 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: is there a link to that somewhere? the OE website is at http://www.openembedded.org
May 22 13:04:08 <zoidberg_> ah ok thanks
May 22 13:17:33 <zoidberg_> i don't like this linuxtogo website... lets make a new handhelds.org, or some website wich mirrors or lists all handheld operating systems, so you can search a system by the name of your device
May 22 13:17:41 <zoidberg_> but lets first start with a mailing list :-)
May 22 14:07:09 <zoidberg_> hi spliff
May 22 21:40:54 <zoidberg_> hi there i'm back
May 22 21:41:27 <zoidberg_> how are you all
May 22 21:43:48 <zoidberg_> hi bluelightning how are you
May 22 22:40:33 <bluelightning_> zoidberg_: good thanks
May 22 22:42:25 <zoidberg_> i got a new funkey tool for my ipaq
May 22 22:42:28 <zoidberg_> :-)
May 22 22:42:37 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: what's that?
May 22 22:43:13 <zoidberg_> a ibm pcmcia ide card and an ibm portable drive bay
May 22 22:50:48 <zoidberg_> but it doesn't load the driver 
May 22 22:51:13 <zoidberg_> there is something wrong it says the driver is loadet but /dev/hdc is not there
May 22 22:51:45 <bluelightning> hmm :/
May 22 22:53:28 <zoidberg_> gnah i hate the 2.4.19 kernel
May 22 22:58:22 <zoidberg_> good night
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