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Sep 14 07:42:44 <zoidberg_> hello
Sep 14 07:42:52 <zoidberg_> hey blue we have a mailing list now
Sep 14 09:43:43 <zoidberg_> hello how are you alle
Sep 14 10:05:28 <zoidberg_> hey blue
Sep 14 10:06:27 <zoidberg_> how are you i have set up a mailing list
Sep 14 10:07:12 <zoidberg_> for ipaqlinux
Sep 14 10:11:31 <bluelightning> hi zoidberg_
Sep 14 10:11:40 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: great, where is it?
Sep 14 10:12:14 <zoidberg_> on kola.li i just dunno the adress by now
Sep 14 10:12:20 <zoidberg_> i forgot it 
Sep 14 10:12:31 <zoidberg_> i will write it as soon as i`m at home
Sep 14 10:12:36 <bluelightning> oh ok... I was thinking it would be best to get one set up at linuxtogo.org
Sep 14 10:16:05 <zoidberg_> yes this would be awesome too but i thought it would be nice to have one by now and then on linuxtogo...
Sep 14 10:16:24 <bluelightning> the trouble is if you create one and then move it you will lose people in the transition
Sep 14 10:16:33 <zoidberg_> do you know anyone from linuxtogo? then we could maybe get linuxtogo/ipaq or something
Sep 14 10:16:50 <bluelightning> I do, yes
Sep 14 10:16:52 <zoidberg_> i have found a backup of handhelds.org
Sep 14 10:17:00 <bluelightning> the one on archive.org?
Sep 14 10:17:17 <zoidberg_> could you aks? no the one on edu.pub.something
Sep 14 10:17:41 <zoidberg_> ah and i found the sdg bootloader
Sep 14 10:17:48 <bluelightning> oh ok I would be interested to see that...
Sep 14 10:18:15 <zoidberg_> ok wait i search this
Sep 14 10:21:50 <zoidberg_> ok i foound 2 one is on a german university site i`ll send it to you
Sep 14 10:22:51 <zoidberg_> http://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/handhelds/
Sep 14 10:23:49 <zoidberg_> i cant find the french site
Sep 14 10:37:04 <Marcel__> !logs
Sep 14 10:44:02 <zoidberg_> hey blue do you know how i make a jffs2 image from the output of openembeddet
Sep 14 10:44:05 <zoidberg_> hey blue do you know how i make a jffs2 image from the output of openembedded
Sep 14 10:45:46 <zoidberg_> ok i will be afk
Sep 14 10:53:53 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: just include jffs2 in IMAGE_FSTYPES
Sep 14 11:53:34 <zoidberg_> hello
Sep 14 12:38:01 <zoidberg_> hallomar
Sep 14 12:38:29 <zoidberg_> hey does anyone know how i make a .rootfs.jffs2 image out of my compiled stuff?
Sep 14 12:43:16 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: just include jffs2 in IMAGE_FSTYPES
Sep 14 13:05:30 <XorA|gone> someone just altered the matrix
Sep 14 13:07:29 <bluelightning> XorA|gone: ?
Sep 14 13:07:38 <zoidberg_> when? when building?
Sep 14 13:07:42 <XorA|gone> deja vu from a couple of hours ago :-D
Sep 14 13:07:52 <bluelightning> XorA|gone: oh, right... :)
Sep 14 13:08:06 <bluelightning> I assumed zoidberg_ did not get my earlier reply
Sep 14 13:08:09 <zoidberg_> the problem is that my workstation just crashed and i have to install it again
Sep 14 13:08:41 <zoidberg_> no i didnt i was finished with working so i switched my computer off and went home^^
Sep 14 13:10:08 <zoidberg_> i`m just installing gentoo
Sep 14 13:10:17 <zoidberg_> takes a while to compile the kernel
Sep 14 13:10:27 <zoidberg_> my disk had a head crash 
Sep 14 13:11:38 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: ouch, sorry to hear that :(
Sep 14 13:11:56 <zoidberg_> ah look blue http://elinux.org/Flameman/ipaq/status he had a working 2.6 kernel back in 2009
Sep 14 13:12:46 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: yes, he unfortunately abandoned the project saying that sa1110 was too limited a platform
Sep 14 13:13:12 <zoidberg_> yes a friend of mine compiled angstrom for me but i dont get the folder structure, where is the zimage and where is the rootfs?
Sep 14 13:13:19 * XorA|gone is amused that his zx81 has more support than early PDAs
Sep 14 13:13:38 <zoidberg_> ^^
Sep 14 13:14:25 <XorA|gone> still new hardware and software after over 30 years!
Sep 14 13:32:11 <zoidberg_> i like the sa1110 architecture its relatively easy to understand and to work with
Sep 14 13:32:42 <zoidberg_> its not as badass as these cortexm9 dualcore arms but its doing its job
Sep 14 13:33:39 <bluelightning> yeah I guess he just lost interest
Sep 14 13:33:54 <bluelightning> which is a shame as it looked like he was making good progress
Sep 14 13:35:49 <zoidberg_> zes
Sep 14 13:36:00 <zoidberg_> yes 
Sep 14 13:36:48 <mar89> dave
Sep 14 13:37:09 <mar89> sag mal haste insteresse an nen cray xt3
Sep 14 13:37:09 <mar89> ?
Sep 14 13:37:27 <mar89> starkstrom bock da mitzumachen , weil fürn mar alleine nen wenig hart
Sep 14 13:37:40 <zoidberg_> wuuuut wie kommste an so ein ran?
Sep 14 13:38:36 <zoidberg_> ah sag mal dem blue die mailinglistenadresse
Sep 14 13:38:45 <zoidberg_> bluelightning
Sep 14 13:39:01 <mar89> yeah
Sep 14 13:39:30 <mar89> zoidberg_: bisschen viel lost hier , aber es wurde mir angeboten 
Sep 14 13:39:43 <mar89> dein e-bay zueg mach selber
Sep 14 13:39:44 <mar89> alta
Sep 14 13:40:20 <zoidberg_> och alta ok
Sep 14 13:40:46 <zoidberg_> dann bin ich mal suchen nach meinem benutzernamen
Sep 14 13:40:50 <mar89> also dude der cray hat 3 19 zoll schränke voll mit opterons
Sep 14 13:41:10 <mar89> 1/2 HE für 4 kerne
Sep 14 13:45:05 <mar89> zoidberg_: mailingliste is http://kola.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ipaq
Sep 14 13:45:18 <mar89> hf
Sep 14 13:45:51 <mar89> hey guys ... is it ok that we use this channel for semi private conversation in german ?
Sep 14 13:52:56 <bluelightning> not really, this is supposed to be an English discussion channel
Sep 14 13:53:09 <zoidberg_> ah bluelightning: the mailinglist is http://kola.li/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ipaq
Sep 14 13:53:25 <zoidberg_> mar talk to me in jabber if you want to speak german
Sep 14 13:57:07 <mar89> zoidberg_: hehe
Sep 14 13:57:18 <mar89> zoidberg_: retroll my link
Sep 14 13:58:09 <mar89> zoidberg_: do you know that you have to approve every subcribe with your kola.li mail addy
Sep 14 14:28:26 <_julian> hi
Sep 14 14:28:55 <_julian> I am running into an issue with angstrom next branch, when trying to build for MACHINE=raspberrypi.
Sep 14 14:29:18 <_julian> the config and update steps run fine, but when I start bitbake to build virtual/kernel it fails, complaining that I have no valid MACHINE set.
Sep 14 14:29:50 <_julian> I did not see that error with denzil tree, but that one won't build on my archlinux host (due to glibc 2.16)
Sep 14 14:29:58 <_julian> has anyone else seen this issue?
Sep 14 15:14:15 <zoidberg_> waaaaaaaaa kernelpanic
Sep 14 15:14:16 <zoidberg_> nice
Sep 14 15:14:58 <zoidberg_> dafuq
Sep 14 15:28:12 <zoidberg_> narcissus isn`t working for palm650 and all ipaqs and nokia800 and many other devices
Sep 14 15:29:17 <bluelightning> likely the cause is there were no feeds built for those machines
Sep 14 15:38:10 <zoidberg_> but why aren`t they`re taken out of the supported devices list? or why isnt this fixed? i don`t know how this narcissus works so i cant do this and i also have no access to anything
Sep 14 15:38:41 <bluelightning> I don't have access to it either and the decision to enable or disable machines is not mine nor has it been explicitly announced
Sep 14 15:38:59 <bluelightning> I would suggest asking on the mailing list
Sep 14 15:42:14 <zoidberg_> i did
Sep 14 15:42:40 <mar89_> wb ... fucking netv4 down so no v6 tunnel
Sep 14 15:42:44 <zoidberg_> i know that it isnt your decision, i only wanted to say
Sep 14 15:46:51 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: sure, I'm in the same position as you here
Sep 14 15:46:59 <zoidberg_> i know
Sep 14 15:47:38 <zoidberg_> thee worst part is nobody is answering my mails on the ml, i send 3 mails and got one answer wich was not very informative
Sep 14 15:52:26 <mar89> so re again
Sep 14 15:52:39 <mar89> hopefully the last recon
Sep 14 15:54:33 <zoidberg_> ah blue do you want the sdg bootloader for the ipaq hx4700 i could send it to you
Sep 14 15:56:26 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: not for the moment, could you just upload it somewhere?
Sep 14 15:59:20 <zoidberg_> i`ve got it here save if you need it just ask me ^^
Sep 14 15:59:26 <zoidberg_> i will soon backup this
Sep 14 16:00:27 <mar89> zoidberg_: did we wont launch our web storage projekt ?
Sep 14 16:21:18 <zoidberg_> hey bluelightning could you build a kernel and a rootfs for me? with gnome? and the gnome network manager and stuff? because my workstation is kernel panicing... and i want this device not to lay around , and gpe sucks hard, especially the wlan tools
Sep 14 16:30:19 <bluelightning> zoidberg_: I can't say I've ever built a gnome image...
Sep 14 16:36:38 <zoidberg_> what images have you build?
Sep 14 16:37:04 <zoidberg_> i think this isn`t very different from another x11 or gpe or opie image
Sep 14 16:40:35 <zoidberg_> the thing is i would do it myself but i think something is seriously wrong with my workstation...
Sep 14 16:41:15 <zoidberg_> and my laptop has only a single core 1,5 ghz powerpc processor^^
Sep 14 17:05:19 <zoidberg_> i`ll be away for a few hours eating and other social stuff cya soon
Sep 14 23:49:11 <monttyle> Well, anyone here today?
Sep 14 23:57:16 <mar89> yeah
Sep 14 23:57:27 <mar89> monttyle: why ... its fucking 1 am in germany
Sep 15 00:22:36 <monttyle> Yikes.  I was mostly wondering which of the dozens of kernels a beagleboard-xm uses.
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