**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 05 02:59:58 2012
Oct 05 08:49:16 <rex> Is this the right place to ask a question about booting on an iPAQ?
Oct 05 10:08:28 <rex> How does one go about compiling an image for an iPAQ?
Oct 05 10:36:00 <XorA|gone> there are only 2 guys who ever talk about ipaq stuff, have patience and hopefully they will notice you
Oct 05 10:37:31 <XorA|gone> probably best if you say which ipaq as well :-D
Oct 05 11:10:47 <rex> That's a good point... it's a hw 6515
Oct 05 13:42:52 <ccssnet> rexhunt: at least its a newer ipaq!
Oct 05 13:43:01 <ccssnet> the one i had been compiling for was a older one
Oct 05 13:43:46 <ccssnet> long story short though... i managed to get angstrom to build some images with no compile errors after some tweaking. just the resulting image used to not fully boot up
Oct 05 13:43:54 <ccssnet> init script related? i forget
Oct 05 13:44:09 <ccssnet> o also i think the keyboard wasnt working. so i had no way to debug
Oct 05 13:44:11 <ccssnet> haha
Oct 05 13:45:17 <ccssnet> sure i could have connected a serial cable and tried controlling it that way but i sold it and moved onto modern devices (open pandora handheld)
Oct 05 13:46:18 <XorA|gone> heh, you have one?
Oct 05 13:47:57 <ccssnet> ya
Oct 05 13:48:59 <ccssnet> i do miss the ipaq design though
Oct 05 13:49:04 <ccssnet> it was just nice overall
Oct 05 13:49:24 <ccssnet> the pandora feels big and clunky compared
Oct 05 13:49:29 <ccssnet> but obviosly more usefull
Oct 05 13:49:44 <XorA|gone> I gave up after 2 years on waiting list
Oct 05 13:50:00 <ccssnet> they had a production problem
Oct 05 13:50:08 <ccssnet> and switched companies
Oct 05 13:50:14 <ccssnet> they now build them in germany
Oct 05 13:50:25 <ccssnet> i got one from texas production
Oct 05 13:50:56 <ccssnet> its the older model. has lesser specs then the new germany ones
Oct 05 13:51:16 <XorA|gone> I was part of the original paypal pre-order
Oct 05 13:51:27 <ccssnet> hmph
Oct 05 13:51:29 <ccssnet> i wasnt
Oct 05 13:51:33 <ccssnet> i bought used on ebay
Oct 05 13:51:35 <ccssnet> O:-)
Oct 05 13:51:49 <XorA|gone> after 2 years I had bought a PSP and got bored of waiting
Oct 05 13:51:55 <ccssnet> lol
Oct 05 13:52:28 <XorA|gone> but I guess it was a shorter wait than the GTA03 phone :-D
Oct 05 13:53:07 <ccssnet> yea i suppose
Oct 05 13:53:08 <ccssnet> lol
Oct 05 13:53:33 <ccssnet> well, there is a group of people writing designs for a pandora2
Oct 05 13:53:46 <XorA|gone> tegra 3 + geforce I hope :-D
Oct 05 13:53:48 <ccssnet> personally i hope they go with a 100core mips cpu
Oct 05 13:54:20 <ccssnet> nvidia aint competing with that
Oct 05 13:54:23 <ccssnet> hehe
Oct 05 13:54:55 <ccssnet> i suppose thats a bit extreame for a handheld
Oct 05 13:55:01 <ccssnet> might cause some heat... idk
Oct 05 13:55:20 <ccssnet> i do know its supposed to be an embedded SoC module though
Oct 05 13:56:48 <ccssnet> http://www.tilera.com/products/processors
Oct 05 13:57:51 <XorA|gone> I live in Scotland, a warm handheld always handy :-D
Oct 05 13:57:55 <ccssnet> i guess they droped the gpu cpu they where working on though
Oct 05 13:58:01 <ccssnet> lol
Oct 05 13:58:45 <ccssnet> but yea a tegra 3 would be nice either way
Oct 05 13:58:47 <ccssnet> lol
Oct 05 13:59:03 <ccssnet> this cortex a8 feels dated
Oct 05 13:59:14 <ccssnet> it feels like compiling on a pentium 3
Oct 05 13:59:16 <ccssnet> ;)
Oct 05 13:59:23 <XorA|gone> running gentoo?
Oct 05 13:59:27 <ccssnet> otherwise its rather responsive
Oct 05 13:59:42 <ccssnet> nah. i am in the process of porting a distro to it
Oct 05 13:59:57 <ccssnet> lots of manual testing as well
Oct 05 14:00:07 <XorA|gone> something I can use as a netbook would rock :-D
Oct 05 14:00:14 <XorA|gone> I miss my old C3200 zaurus
Oct 05 14:00:20 <ccssnet> hehe
Oct 05 14:00:33 <ccssnet> im selling my workstation and getting an ultrabook
Oct 05 14:00:41 <ccssnet> or maybe one of those 100core mips
Oct 05 14:00:43 <ccssnet> lmao
Oct 05 14:00:51 <XorA|gone> I need something x86 for WoW
Oct 05 14:01:01 <ccssnet> eh, i play CS:GO
Oct 05 14:01:14 <ccssnet> but i acidently formated windows this morning
Oct 05 14:01:25 <ccssnet> so wont be happening today at least
Oct 05 14:01:27 <ccssnet> lol
Oct 05 14:01:45 <ccssnet> went to go freshly format a flash stick
Oct 05 14:01:49 <ccssnet> typed the wrong letter
Oct 05 14:01:55 <XorA|gone> CS:GO?
Oct 05 14:02:04 <ccssnet> counter strike global offensive
Oct 05 14:02:08 <ccssnet> new css game
Oct 05 14:02:27 <XorA|gone> havent played that sort of stuff since Unreal Tournament and Half-life
Oct 05 14:02:28 <ccssnet> i play bad company 2 also
Oct 05 14:02:35 <ccssnet> but only games i play anymore
Oct 05 14:02:53 <ccssnet> either of these i mention are top notch worth getting ^
Oct 05 14:03:08 <ccssnet> if your into FPS's
Oct 05 14:03:27 <XorA|gone> I used to be, now I dont have the time or reflexes :-D
Oct 05 14:03:41 <ccssnet> yea my reflexes are dimming
Oct 05 14:03:46 <XorA|gone> reminds me, must locate cheap copy of Doom3 BFG
Oct 05 14:03:49 <ccssnet> time. i got that
Oct 05 14:04:08 <ccssnet> why doom3?
Oct 05 14:04:17 <ccssnet> i thought it sucked
Oct 05 14:04:33 <ccssnet> also disliked quake4
Oct 05 14:04:39 <XorA|gone> I liked it, until you get to the zone where they obvious just said, we need another 10 levels
Oct 05 14:04:51 <ccssnet> lol
Oct 05 14:04:59 <XorA|gone> I ended up using the trainer to run through them and get to hell
Oct 05 14:05:09 <ccssnet> hmph
Oct 05 14:05:19 <ccssnet> i toyed with diablo 3 a bit
Oct 05 14:05:32 <ccssnet> i guess i dont want to fall into that trap
Oct 05 14:05:34 <ccssnet> lol
Oct 05 14:05:37 <ccssnet> didnt buy it
Oct 05 14:05:51 <XorA|gone> Quake 4 I got free but yeah it doesnt really click with me
Oct 05 14:06:33 <ccssnet> everything else i got is mostly indy titles
Oct 05 14:07:13 <ccssnet> http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/ccssnet
Oct 05 14:10:12 <ccssnet> ok maybe half are
Oct 05 14:10:26 <XorA|gone> and this is the longest discussion #angstrom has seen for about 6 months :-D
Oct 05 14:10:35 <Crofton|work> good job
Oct 05 14:11:43 <ccssnet> priceless
Oct 05 14:11:50 * ccssnet shits on bitbake and runs off
Oct 05 14:12:42 <ccssnet> no really though, everyone moved over to yocto?
Oct 05 14:14:06 <XorA|gone> well the most popular board seems to be the beagle which has its own channel, and build issues get discussed on #oe leaving this channel a little orphaned
Oct 05 14:14:16 <ccssnet> ya
Oct 05 14:14:43 <ccssnet> honestly the only reason i learned angstrom existed was because of the ipaq
Oct 05 14:15:10 <ccssnet> but hey. pandora uses it
Oct 05 14:15:11 <XorA|gone> its a real pity the familiar guys fell out with us :-(
Oct 05 14:15:43 <ccssnet> they where making a gui right?
Oct 05 14:15:44 <XorA|gone> ipaq community was already small enough without a split down middle
Oct 05 14:16:31 <ccssnet> is there even a mirror of their work online somewhere?
Oct 05 14:16:51 <XorA|gone> not since handhelds.org was taken down I think
Oct 05 14:17:02 <ccssnet> hmph
Oct 05 14:17:17 <ccssnet> well if anyone can get a copy of it. id host it
Oct 05 14:18:09 <ccssnet> but there is some newer projects that are moving forward related purposes
Oct 05 14:18:21 <XorA|gone> not sure exactly what was lost, most of the familiar package recipes came from OE so we still have all that info, not sure which HH,org project never had mirrors
Oct 05 14:18:24 <ccssnet> mer, tizen, maui-project for example
Oct 05 14:18:37 <ccssnet> hmm
Oct 05 14:18:46 <XorA|gone> the big loss was the community
Oct 05 14:18:52 <ccssnet> ya
Oct 05 14:19:54 <ccssnet> 1 thing i liked about angstrom was it was better BSP's then OE methods when i was first trying it. (2008 or so)
Oct 05 14:20:06 <ccssnet> just was more stable
Oct 05 14:20:09 <ccssnet> or smooth
Oct 05 14:20:44 <ccssnet> but ive moved on mostly to just trying my own stuff, as with a few other new community projects
Oct 05 14:21:07 <XorA|gone> speaking of community, Crofton|work its been a while since your last membership drive :-D
Oct 05 14:21:07 <ccssnet> the hotest upcomming build system seems to be baserock
Oct 05 14:22:10 <Crofton|work> heh
Oct 05 14:22:13 <Crofton|work> I'll need help
Oct 05 14:22:17 <Crofton|work> I am behind on things
Oct 05 14:22:24 <ccssnet> drive?
Oct 05 14:22:26 <Crofton|work> we have an exciting new product in the works
Oct 05 14:22:40 <Crofton|work> also, I need to get he vote organized for the SPI thing
Oct 05 14:22:47 <Crofton|work> although I think it will be by acclamation
Oct 05 14:22:48 <XorA|gone> heh some familiar names in baserock :-D
Oct 05 14:22:55 <ccssnet> hehe
Oct 05 14:25:22 <XorA|gone> Crofton|work: just do it :-D
Oct 05 14:26:03 <Crofton|work> yeah
Oct 05 14:29:59 * XorA|gone empowers Crofton|work
Oct 05 14:32:08 <Crofton|work> feel free to suggest to the members they approve the idea by acclamation
Oct 05 14:32:28 <Crofton|work> and make a proposal for a better online voting system
Oct 05 14:32:34 <Crofton|work> I am off to CA again on Sunday
Oct 05 14:32:59 <ccssnet> http://atccss.net/index.php?p=4sale
Oct 05 14:33:06 <ccssnet> yall should buy some of my crap
Oct 05 14:33:10 <ccssnet> err. i mean inventory
Oct 05 14:33:21 <ccssnet> O:-)
Oct 05 14:38:41 <ccssnet> unlisted items: open pandora, eken m002 tablet(wm8505 cpu), 2 bricked linksys wrtu54g-tm
Oct 05 14:38:52 <ccssnet> 25 more 2600 magazines
Oct 05 14:38:59 <ccssnet> thats about it
Oct 05 14:39:50 * XorA|gone has lost the original SPI emails
Oct 05 14:40:06 <XorA|gone> gmane time
Oct 05 14:40:10 <ccssnet> i assume you 2 work together
Oct 05 14:40:29 <ccssnet> or is SPI a community project i dont know
Oct 05 14:40:37 <XorA|gone> ah of course private list so its not on gmane
Oct 05 14:41:15 <XorA|gone> ccssnet: we known each other for a few years now
Oct 05 14:41:37 <XorA|gone> ccssnet: Crofton|work is a bad influence on me!
Oct 05 14:41:48 <ccssnet> lol
Oct 05 14:41:55 <XorA|gone> Software In a Public Interest
Oct 05 14:42:15 <ccssnet> hmm
Oct 05 14:42:27 <XorA|gone> basically a way to collect donations
Oct 05 14:43:01 <ccssnet> bookmarked
Oct 05 14:47:49 <ccssnet> http://www.spi-inc.org/projects/jenkins/
Oct 05 14:47:52 <ccssnet> news to me
Oct 05 14:48:06 <ccssnet> downloading jenkins now. i need a macro system damnit!
Oct 05 14:53:43 <ccssnet> not sure if it is a macro system, sounds more like a cron system
Oct 05 14:53:55 <ccssnet> ill see i guess
Oct 05 14:54:40 <XorA|gone> sounds like it watches the watchers
Oct 05 14:55:02 <ccssnet> lol
Oct 05 14:59:06 <ccssnet> well speaking of macro's. happen to know a simple gui based non gnome, non kde, macro tool for mouse / keyboard macroing
Oct 05 14:59:26 <ccssnet> i got one inside firefox but thats only so usefull
Oct 05 15:00:02 <ccssnet> over on winblows i use autoitv3
Oct 05 15:00:02 <XorA|gone> there used to be a vnc based one
Oct 05 15:00:10 <ccssnet> something comparable i guess
Oct 05 15:00:21 <ccssnet> hmm. ill look for it
Oct 05 15:00:25 <XorA|gone> but this was 15 odd years ago, no idea if its still there
Oct 05 15:03:00 <ccssnet> ya 
Oct 05 15:03:07 <ccssnet> its not  really what im looking for either
Oct 05 15:03:16 <ccssnet> that adds a server i dont want to use
Oct 05 15:03:18 <ccssnet> hehe
Oct 05 15:04:02 <ccssnet> http://xnee.wordpress.com/
Oct 05 15:04:04 <ccssnet> hmm
Oct 05 15:09:50 <ccssnet> found a few actually. these where hard to find last year when i needed one -.-
Oct 05 16:33:06 <zoidberg> hello
Oct 05 16:33:12 <zoidberg> bluelightning: hey how are you
Oct 05 18:41:27 <Crofton|work> XorA|gone, http://events.linuxfoundation.org/
Oct 05 18:44:06 <bluelightning> zoidberg: sorry went afk... good and you?
Oct 05 18:47:51 <Crofton|work> bluelightning, ELCE 2013 is in Edinburg
Oct 05 18:48:50 <bluelightning> Crofton|work: nice... but knowing the price of trains in the UK it will probably be more expensive to go there from London than to Barcelona :D
Oct 05 18:48:58 <Crofton|work> eodl
Oct 05 18:49:02 <Crofton|work> rofl that is
Oct 05 18:51:11 <bluelightning> hmm, something between £60 and £120 return, so not much different actually
Oct 05 18:51:23 <bluelightning> but not having to fly is always good :)
Oct 05 19:18:59 <XorA|gone> why train from london to edin?
Oct 05 19:24:01 <XorA|gone> EICC is right next to all the strip joints in Edin, but the pubs that end of town are not particularly good
Oct 05 19:24:29 <XorA|gone> and I would be REALLY careful of gadgets in pubs in that area
Oct 05 19:25:33 <XorA|gone> bawsacks, a very bad date for me :-(
Oct 05 19:26:28 <XorA|gone> ah well Liam and broonie will be happy :-D
Oct 05 19:27:29 <XorA|gone> thats the second big con in Edin next year, I thinks venues are cutting rates due to shitty year this year :-D
Oct 05 19:35:03 <Crofton|work> how far to deent pubs?
Oct 05 19:35:08 <Crofton|work> decent
Oct 05 19:36:17 <XorA|gone> Edinburgh is tiny, not far
Oct 05 19:40:48 <XorA|gone> you can come see our world famuse roadworks :-D
Oct 05 19:42:42 <XorA|gone> ah actually I forgot about the Blue Blazer, thats only a couple of mins away
Oct 05 19:44:47 <XorA|gone> there is however a decent chippy right outside the venue :-D
Oct 05 19:47:01 <XorA|gone> Crofton|work: plenty of pizza shops nearby for yocto meetings :-D
Oct 05 22:21:23 <rexhunt> Trying to run the ramdisk image from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/ for the h5000 and h4000 both run for a while and say "Jumping to kernel" I'm pretty sure...
Oct 05 22:22:30 <rexhunt> I couldn't work out how to build an image for my specific hardware so I tried one of the others... Wikipedia said mine had the same RAM and more ROM than the others so I figured it would work...
Oct 05 22:48:48 <bluelightning> XorA|gone: because that's where I live :)
Oct 05 23:56:07 <XorA|gone> bluelightning: yeah but a fight is like 20 quid
Oct 06 00:01:13 <bluelightning> XorA|gone: true... I guess flying is not my most favourite thing in the world
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