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Jun 20 04:55:34 <vvu> av500: ideas for the android app name? BBBboot is kinda ugly looking
Jun 20 04:58:44 <ka6sox-near> bbboot
Jun 20 05:00:04 <vvu> i would tend to start with a capital letter, don`t want to be the troll that strikes android with the 1st app with small letter 1st. at least what i see on my nexus apps :)
Jun 20 05:01:25 <av500> BeagleDroid
Jun 20 05:01:52 <vvu> uoke
Jun 20 05:02:55 <ka6sox-near> DrBeagle
Jun 20 05:19:29 <av500> BeagleBro
Jun 20 05:37:37 <vvu> i did a new repo with the android code
Jun 20 05:45:16 <vvu> av500: https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BeagleDroid
Jun 20 06:51:04 <av500> ok
Jun 20 06:53:16 <vvu> in the next days i will make a small video to show how the linux thingie works and how to build the kernel for an android device to disable otg. 2day i am setting up all the thingies.
Jun 20 08:38:14 <ZubairLK> Hi
Jun 20 08:38:26 <ZubairLK> jkridner|work: there?
Jun 20 08:38:41 <ZubairLK> My beagleboard package is at the reception. But the lady isn't letting me take it.
Jun 20 08:38:54 <ZubairLK> because apparently. it has somebody elses name on it. and she wouldnt tell
Jun 20 08:39:10 <ZubairLK> the farnell order number you gave yesterday matched.
Jun 20 08:39:48 <ZubairLK> I guess I need to get hold of jkridner|work or cathy wicks. And I hope they arent asleep in some time zone lol :)
Jun 20 08:40:59 <ZubairLK> anybody else here?
Jun 20 08:41:11 <ZubairLK> koen: ?
Jun 20 08:43:20 <ZubairLK> email it is then..
Jun 20 08:43:24 <koen> kridner and cathy are likely asleep
Jun 20 08:43:32 <koen> cathy is in the texas timezone
Jun 20 08:43:34 <av500> ZubairLK: tell her what is inside
Jun 20 08:43:38 <av500> then let her open it
Jun 20 08:43:41 <av500> :)
Jun 20 08:44:04 <ZubairLK> she can't open somebody elses package.
Jun 20 08:44:18 <ZubairLK> thats the thing. there is a name on it. just not mine
Jun 20 08:44:18 <av500> but you have the right code?
Jun 20 08:44:22 <av500> not enough?
Jun 20 08:44:30 <ZubairLK> so technically. it is someone elses package
Jun 20 08:44:34 <ZubairLK> nope.
Jun 20 08:44:38 <av500> gee
Jun 20 08:44:48 <av500> what is this?
Jun 20 08:44:53 <av500> university?
Jun 20 08:45:06 <ZubairLK> University of Leeds, UK
Jun 20 08:45:35 <ZubairLK> I''m the student. And I did give my name on the address to cathy/mentor..
Jun 20 08:47:09 <av500> yes, I know you are the student :)
Jun 20 08:47:47 <av500> the address in the doc has your name
Jun 20 08:48:37 <ZubairLK> That would be the one I gave
Jun 20 08:48:46 <av500> yes
Jun 20 08:48:58 <av500> can you look up the order code at farnell?
Jun 20 08:49:01 <ZubairLK> What about the one given to farnell.
Jun 20 08:49:17 <ZubairLK> 25827121
Jun 20 08:49:20 <av500> yes
Jun 20 08:49:31 <av500> contact farnell and explain
Jun 20 08:49:35 <av500> with the order code
Jun 20 08:49:52 <ZubairLK> The order isnt mine.
Jun 20 08:49:57 <av500> i know
Jun 20 08:50:00 <av500> you can still try
Jun 20 08:50:20 <ZubairLK> Ok
Jun 20 09:19:25 <ZubairLK> Couldnt figure out which office to contact and what to say to them. Generic helplines are useless. Just sent an email to jason and cathy.. It'll be sorted out soon..
Jun 20 09:20:42 <av500> ok
Jun 20 12:28:43 <ZubairLK> jkridner|work: there?
Jun 20 12:38:11 <jkridner|work> hi
Jun 20 12:38:18 <jkridner|work> gm ZubairLK
Jun 20 12:38:23 <jkridner|work> any update on hardware?
Jun 20 12:38:42 <jkridner|work> shall we call Farnell today to find out where it is?
Jun 20 12:39:17 <jkridner|work> I went onto the website to try to find tracking info before our meeting yesterday and it wasn't available.  The site only said the order was 'complete'.
Jun 20 12:40:00 <jkridner|work> ah, I should have scrolled back.
Jun 20 12:40:44 <av500> you sent it to John Doe
Jun 20 12:47:56 <ZubairLK> gm jkridner|work
Jun 20 12:48:23 <ZubairLK> I also sent an email.
Jun 20 12:49:42 <jkridner|work> looking at the invoice, they left your name off
Jun 20 12:49:50 <jkridner|work> did you try to use my name?
Jun 20 12:50:20 <ZubairLK> hmm. no. I tried gregs
Jun 20 12:50:40 <ZubairLK> Should I head over and ask?
Jun 20 12:51:29 * jkridner|work just emailed the invoice.
Jun 20 12:53:16 <ZubairLK> I'll go and show it to her and see :)
Jun 20 12:53:19 <ZubairLK> br
Jun 20 12:53:21 <ZubairLK> brb*
Jun 20 13:06:03 <ZubairLK> jkridner|work: Thank-you :)
Jun 20 13:06:12 <ZubairLK> I have collected it
Jun 20 13:06:12 <av500> got iz?
Jun 20 13:06:17 <av500> what was the name?
Jun 20 13:06:20 <jkridner|work> hurray!
Jun 20 13:06:25 <jkridner|work> Jason Kridner :-)
Jun 20 13:06:26 <ZubairLK> It was for jason
Jun 20 13:06:30 <av500> lol
Jun 20 13:06:49 <ZubairLK> Any reason why there is an hdmi cable in there too?
Jun 20 13:06:56 <jkridner|work> I did put your name down, but Farnell must have assumed who paid for it was getting it too.
Jun 20 13:07:05 <jkridner|work> b/c I thought it might be useful...
Jun 20 13:07:15 <jkridner|work> I grabbed everything from Farnell that they had in stock that looked useful.
Jun 20 13:07:15 <ZubairLK> I see. Thanks.
Jun 20 13:07:21 <jkridner|work> 4 items.
Jun 20 13:07:34 <ZubairLK> yea. BBB, breakout cape, hdmi, ftdi cable
Jun 20 13:07:36 <jkridner|work> board, debug cable, power supply (I think) and HDMI cable.
Jun 20 13:07:42 <jkridner|work> ah... breakout cape...
Jun 20 13:07:47 <jkridner|work> the power supply was out of stock.
Jun 20 13:07:49 <ZubairLK> no power supply.
Jun 20 13:07:58 <jkridner|work> I know you were looking for the breakout cape.
Jun 20 13:08:02 <ZubairLK> np. will I need it for the touchscreen later on?
Jun 20 13:08:13 <jkridner|work> it'll help debug touchscreen, yes.
Jun 20 13:08:18 <jkridner|work> are you focused exclusively on ADC?
Jun 20 13:08:25 <ZubairLK> yea I was. I needed to access ADCs while debugging the touchscreen
Jun 20 13:08:27 <jkridner|work> or are you looking at sending other patches upstream as well?
Jun 20 13:08:31 <jkridner|work> k.
Jun 20 13:08:52 <ZubairLK> other patches upstream isn't a description of the gsoc proposal.
Jun 20 13:08:56 <ZubairLK> but I dont see why not :)
Jun 20 13:08:57 <jkridner|work> k
Jun 20 13:09:21 <ZubairLK> if the opportunity arises, I will surely go for it :)
Jun 20 13:09:29 <jkridner|work> well, as always "patches welcome"
Jun 20 13:09:58 <ZubairLK> I will surely be adding to Koens patches..
Jun 20 13:10:03 <jkridner|work> I know you still need LCD and other stuff, but hopefully you can get going with this.
Jun 20 13:10:25 <ZubairLK> This is great. LCD+psu can come later. Its ok.
Jun 20 13:10:32 <jkridner|work> well, the "vendor tree" is helpful, but I hope you are keeping your goal to get it in the mainline.
Jun 20 13:11:25 <ZubairLK> I'll keep it in my mind
Jun 20 13:11:50 <ZubairLK> Thing is. mainline for 3.8 has stopped.
Jun 20 13:12:10 <ZubairLK> 3.8 will have to be a vendor tree..
Jun 20 13:12:13 <jkridner|work> right, shouldn't be against 3.8.
Jun 20 13:12:48 <jkridner|work> a first-pass against 3.8 might be reasonable, since it gives you a working rest-of-system....
Jun 20 13:12:49 <ZubairLK> Koen is working on 3.10 I think. I guess upstreaming would become an option for that.
Jun 20 13:13:20 <jkridner|work> but, I do hope that gregkh_gone and koen have you working towards ADC/IIO drivers you can/will submit upstream (even if not accepted by the end of your GSoC).
Jun 20 13:13:23 <ZubairLK> indeed. and I'll be able to get my hands dirty with git, patches and the whole framwork
Jun 20 13:14:37 <ZubairLK> koen: gregkh_gone and I just had an email discussion over this.
Jun 20 13:15:13 <ZubairLK> koen suggested 3.8 boots reliably. so focus on it at the moment for the rest of the work. by next week. 3.10 should be bootable.
Jun 20 13:15:29 <ZubairLK> then the end goal would be to upstream the patches in mfd-next
Jun 20 21:02:11 <ka6sox> jj2baile, ping?
Jun 20 21:02:24 <wmat> jj2baile: ping
Jun 20 21:02:28 <wmat> heh
Jun 20 21:02:29 <ka6sox> your BBB and Stellaris have arrived in the Great White North.
Jun 20 21:05:24 <ka6sox> wmat, UW has Tri-Mesters....so he has MidTerms this week
Jun 20 21:07:16 <wmat> no problem, he can ping me when he's available
Jun 20 21:08:42 <ka6sox> (the last time I worried about Trimesters was 11yrs ago...almost 12...
Jun 20 21:08:45 <ka6sox> )
Jun 20 21:25:01 <vvu|Mobile> any idea how i can rewrite .config without kernel overwriting mine?
Jun 20 21:25:10 <vvu|Mobile> i can`t make menuconfig
Jun 20 21:25:30 <vvu|Mobile> gives me some awkward errors, i`m trying to edit the .config but when doing make it overwrites my changes
Jun 20 21:35:29 <ka6sox> vvu|Mobile, make oldconfig
Jun 20 21:53:44 <vvu|Mobile> ka6sox: does not work same thingie, says that it written my config same original one
Jun 20 21:53:52 <vvu|Mobile> i am modifying .config in place
Jun 20 21:57:11 <_av500_> vvu|Mobile: make where?
Jun 20 21:57:14 <_av500_> what kernel?
Jun 20 21:57:23 <vvu|Mobile> Galaxy Nexus kernel
Jun 20 21:57:38 <vvu|Mobile> and make menuconfig is broken, from google sources
Jun 20 21:57:49 <vvu|Mobile> need to remove that pesky OTG bug
Jun 20 21:58:55 <_av500_> vvu|Mobile: ARCH=arm make menuconfig
Jun 20 22:04:56 <vvu|Mobile> i needed some other ncurses lib to install
Jun 20 22:12:43 <_av500_> yes, ncurses is needed
Jun 20 22:13:28 <vvu|Mobile> but curios that for the n7 kernel menuconfig worked
Jun 20 22:14:06 <vvu|Mobile> anyway Galaxy Nexus, such a fine piece of hardware discharging while charging *wifi and brightness max*
Jun 20 22:45:36 <jj2baile> wmat: pong
Jun 20 22:45:38 <jj2baile> ka6sox: pong
Jun 20 22:45:54 <jj2baile> Oh
Jun 20 22:45:55 <jj2baile> I see
Jun 20 22:45:58 <jj2baile> Great :D
Jun 20 22:46:01 <ds2> hmmm
Jun 20 22:48:25 * vvu likes the search for java equivalence of uint* !
Jun 20 22:48:47 <ds2> there are no pointers in java
Jun 20 22:48:55 <ds2> (AFAIK)
Jun 20 22:49:03 <vvu> uint8, uint16
Jun 20 22:49:06 <vvu> not pointer
Jun 20 22:49:33 <ds2> Oh.  uint * looked like a C pointer type :D
Jun 20 22:49:43 <vvu> anyway going to have java course next semester, going to be prepared for that stuff!
Jun 20 22:49:51 <ds2> don't think you can do size specific stuff in java
Jun 20 22:50:02 <ka6sox> jj2baile, please go direct with wmat to make arraingement for retrieving the bits and making payments :)
Jun 20 22:50:09 <ka6sox> (j/k)
Jun 20 22:50:28 <ds2> holes in the bit bucket?
Jun 20 22:50:45 <vvu> i was thinking to pack my uint32 as byte[4]
Jun 20 22:51:03 <vvu> but it`s tricky to work with them
Jun 20 22:51:09 <ds2> vvu: are you doing pure java or JNI stuff?
Jun 20 22:51:33 <vvu> ok, lost me a bit. android java :)
Jun 20 22:51:50 <ds2> are you tying in with native coide
Jun 20 22:52:02 <ds2> JNI == Java Native Interface
Jun 20 22:52:08 <vvu> it`s the 1st time when doing real java stuff, in the past just played with it a bit
Jun 20 22:52:28 <ds2> and I know enough to not touch it with a 40M pole ;)
Jun 20 22:56:58 <vvu> http://pastebin.com/kyWLwRGf the way i want to take care of int8,16,32
Jun 20 22:57:38 <vvu> there will be *a lot* of hexDumps to do
Jun 20 22:58:07 <ds2> I wonder if ARM64 will break that
Jun 20 23:02:10 <vvu> need to make friend with the decimal->hex and other way around converter now
Jun 20 23:04:09 <ds2> Good luck. And no hitting the liquior cabinet :D
Jun 20 23:17:33 <vvu> some random question...about copywrite stuff which license do we use for it ?
Jun 20 23:19:04 <ds2> do you have a preference?
Jun 20 23:19:15 <ds2> I think the only requirement is an open source license
Jun 20 23:19:28 <ds2> unless you have derived code
Jun 20 23:20:15 <vvu> only open source, just some maybe tiny bits of code from internet but some random lines in case of need
Jun 20 23:20:55 <ds2> but if you used GPLv3 code, you have to use v3 license or if you used v2 only code, etc
Jun 20 23:21:07 <ds2> all of them are open source
Jun 20 23:21:23 <vvu> i was looking here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_licenses
Jun 20 23:21:34 <ds2> a non v3 license would be nice
Jun 20 23:21:59 <vvu> Academic Free License ? student, academic same area for me :)
Jun 20 23:22:11 <vvu> ok v3
Jun 20 23:22:19 <ds2> NON v3
Jun 20 23:22:33 <vvu> yep
Jun 20 23:23:05 <vvu> IBM Common Public License?
Jun 20 23:23:08 <ds2> apache might be good as rest of android is apache except for kernel but u are the author
Jun 20 23:24:05 <vvu> this is my 1st open source project so "i am the author, amend no xp in this licensing area"
Jun 20 23:24:26 <ds2> Public Domain? :D
Jun 20 23:27:28 <vvu> apache is the winner!
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