**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 04 02:59:58 2013 Sep 04 08:27:01 tcort: I tested the GPIO button using the LCD cape. it works Sep 04 09:15:08 av500: got some info on the post to rowboat ML Sep 04 09:15:34 now i`m trying the TI android which looks promising...has some usb stuff in it, still need to see how to make adb over network active in it Sep 04 09:16:55 ok Sep 04 09:16:57 good Sep 04 09:19:17 i think my uSD card is crap because it works so slow Sep 04 09:19:59 sandisk ultra seems fine Sep 04 09:20:13 i have some noname one Sep 04 09:20:19 thats crasp Sep 04 09:20:21 crap Sep 04 09:21:01 * vvu|Log it seems that a road to sparkasse to take some money for a uSD card is in order Sep 04 09:24:30 av500: the meeting is at 18:00 .de time ? Sep 04 09:26:21 yes Sep 04 09:27:02 i hope i will have news until then regarding this android build Sep 04 11:30:08 I probably won't make it for the meeting today. I would like to know todayish if I need to order the weatercape myself or not Sep 04 11:33:06 av500: got adb over ethernet to work Sep 04 11:34:32 good Sep 04 11:41:23 crap need to find an external 5V power supply...the host dies when i connect the BBB device to it Sep 04 11:46:57 av500: ok..same usb OTG bug here too Sep 04 11:47:25 any idea about the kernel sources for http://downloads.ti.com/sitara_android/esd/TI_Android_DevKit/TI_Android_JB_4_2_2_DevKit_4_1_1/index_FDS.html ? Sep 04 11:48:21 nevermind got them but download is slow Sep 04 11:50:10 jkridner: any idea if there is a mirror link for http://downloads.ti.com/sitara_android/esd/TI_Android_DevKit/TI_Android_JB_4_2_2_DevKit_4_1_1/exports/TI_Android_JB_4.2.2_DevKit_4.1.1.bin ? Sep 04 11:50:28 jkridner: the download from .de is like 100kB/s and it will take some hours until i get it Sep 04 11:51:06 dunno Sep 04 12:04:00 av500: anyway the AM335x won't work with any phone that has OTG active in the kernel. i read in the TRM that the chip can do OTG but it`s not implemented Sep 04 12:08:22 yes Sep 04 12:08:45 saw that Sep 04 12:23:04 so we are doomed from the start Sep 04 12:23:46 as i remember ds2 told me that the usb host connector on the BBB is hard wired to the chip but still he is doing OTG Sep 04 12:23:52 s/he/it Sep 04 13:14:36 why doomed? Sep 04 13:14:46 same disable OTG as for others Sep 04 13:21:11 yeah but i thought i will find a device where no issues will be raised Sep 04 13:21:56 one day Sep 04 13:22:09 need to craft one :)) Sep 04 13:22:16 conjure one maybe Sep 04 13:27:30 av500: see you at the meeting, i`m offline a bit Sep 04 13:29:33 ok Sep 04 13:29:41 not sure I will make it today Sep 04 15:24:12 av500: hacked the kernel to see it as rndis now the app test is following Sep 04 15:24:27 okie Sep 04 15:24:28 great Sep 04 15:25:12 if there is no problem after the official date of ending of GSoC i want to do a linux port of everything Sep 04 15:25:20 think more people will use it Sep 04 15:25:23 sure Sep 04 15:35:55 hello all! Sep 04 15:36:40 jkridner: I don't have a report today... do you mind if I post it in a day or two? Sep 04 15:36:48 unacceptalblalalble! Sep 04 15:39:20 hatguy: don`t worry i`m writing my report in a couple of minutes :) Sep 04 15:39:31 * hatguy withdraws to a corner waiting for punishment Sep 04 15:39:41 vvu|Log: hehe... Sep 04 15:41:04 don`t really know what to write, i have just failing reports to deliver :) Sep 04 15:41:50 vvu|Log: failing reports might actually help you... at a later stage (they did for me) Sep 04 15:43:43 av500: think it`s again a fail with this build of android Sep 04 15:45:15 :( Sep 04 15:45:51 and i`m getting some awkward error messages in dmesg [ 377.553497] ti81xx_interrupt 1146: VBUS error workaround (delay coming) Sep 04 15:50:23 * vvu|Log writes a full fail report! Sep 04 15:52:23 hatguy: are you able to update us on your progress during the meeting? Sep 04 15:55:26 jkridner: yepp sure can, though I haven't written major code this week, only brainstorming about things like fixed pin-muxes, how to handle the attachInterrupt thingie and some of the other things that are basically left to be implemented Sep 04 15:55:41 meeting! Sep 04 15:55:56 jkridner: we've achieved good support for all major libraries at the moment Sep 04 15:55:59 5 minute count-down Sep 04 15:56:03 :) Sep 04 15:59:15 jkridner: I was about to send a mail about this but I guess I'll mention it here: I probably won't be attending the meeting next week... have some exams at college Sep 04 16:01:29 gm everyone :) Sep 04 16:02:21 howdy all Sep 04 16:02:31 hello! Sep 04 16:02:36 hello jkridner, all Sep 04 16:02:43 hi Sep 04 16:02:50 hi Sep 04 16:03:18 Hmmmm Sep 04 16:03:36 hi Sep 04 16:04:08 uh oh: http://www.kitguru.net/components/memory/faith/hynix-fabs-on-fire-after-chemical-explosion/ Sep 04 16:04:26 dram_price++ Sep 04 16:04:39 15% of world production Sep 04 16:04:44 ouch Sep 04 16:04:58 pencils down is coming in less than 2 weeks! Sep 04 16:06:21 jkridner: yeah... that's a little too close for comfort... I'll try to finish my bit of work asap Sep 04 16:06:29 guess micron will be getting more bisness Sep 04 16:06:33 business Sep 04 16:06:52 2 weeks merge window in the kernel.. my upstream work is blocked.. Sep 04 16:06:57 anyone seen prpplague? Sep 04 16:07:48 jkridner: he's around userspace... he keeps in touch Sep 04 16:07:51 mr jtag - no updates and the end is coming up?!? Sep 04 16:08:39 ZubairLK: it's not "blocked", keep going, it's up to the subsystem maintainers to queue up your patches. Sep 04 16:08:42 gregkh: do you feel ZubairLK knows what is required to finish? Sep 04 16:08:51 k Sep 04 16:08:52 jkridner: I hope so :) Sep 04 16:09:12 hmm. so i ask iio for feedback on patches? Sep 04 16:09:23 because based on previous feedback. i updated the patches and have sent them.. Sep 04 16:09:24 ZubairLK: you don't get a break, sorry. yes, ask for feedback if no response. Sep 04 16:09:25 keesj: I saw your not about wanting hardware to test. not sure it'll get there in time. Sep 04 16:09:40 gregkh: i see. i'll ping them again :) Sep 04 16:09:41 ZubairLK: are you stuck without them being accepted? Don't you have follow-on work to do still? Sep 04 16:10:05 jkridner: prpplague's here for a while Sep 04 16:10:06 gregkh: i did the follow on work and re-submitted them.. Sep 04 16:10:32 gregkh: awaiting review and another round of follow on if needed Sep 04 16:10:56 gregkh: two guys were reviewing. Jonathan maintaining IIO. And Sebastian. Sebastian went on holiday for 3 weeks.. Sep 04 16:11:00 keesj: are you able to have others confirm the work if you don't get a weather cape in time? are you able to look at general quality? Sep 04 16:11:45 ZubairLK: if those patches were accepted today, you still have more stuff to do, right? So act as if they are and keep moving forward. 2 weeks isn't much time left. Sep 04 16:12:39 anyone seen anuj? Sep 04 16:13:13 gregkh: assuming accepted. the question of more stuff to do is open-ended and unclear.. I need to rebase against Koen's tree for 3.11 and 3.8. and a blogpost. But for real work/improvement on the driver. Dont know. Sep 04 16:13:33 prpplague: do you feel hatguy and anujdeshpande know how to finish up? Sep 04 16:14:02 Sorry for being late ! Sep 04 16:14:26 jkridner: yep, all my major goals have been accomplished, the remaining sections i am letting them have a little free hand on what they are working on with an emphasis on debugging , troubleshooting and code clean Sep 04 16:14:36 koen: I've seen vmayoral has published some BeagleBone/Black specific ROS packages. Are you comfortable with where he is on the project and that he's getting good community usage and knows how to wrap-up his project? Sep 04 16:14:36 jkridner: very satisfied with the results Sep 04 16:14:54 jkridner: i was able to use the project to test a certain new product Sep 04 16:14:55 prpplague: thanks! kudos anujdeshpande and hatguy Sep 04 16:14:59 ZubairLK: well, anything that's still in Koen's tree that is not upstream needs to be sent there, that would be a good 2 week project. Sep 04 16:15:22 jkridner: thanks! Sep 04 16:15:28 Danke :) Sep 04 16:15:40 gregkh: *ouch*. koen .. pick something in the 3.11 tree that's suitable for 2 weeks.. I'll give it a go. Sep 04 16:16:32 _av500_: I saw vvu|Log had some traffic on the rowboat mailing list and a response. Are the right things prioritized for him to wrap-up? Sep 04 16:16:32 jkridner: on behalf of keesj - yes we can certainly assess the code quality, but on this side, we have no weather cape to reproduce the work Sep 04 16:17:14 prpplague: do I just need to order them some on ti.boardzoo.com? Sep 04 16:18:03 ZubairLK: unless you have any other tasks you want to get done in the next 2 weeks? I just don't want to have you sit and wait for others if at all possible. Sep 04 16:18:31 koen, ZubairLK: what's the status of capemgr? even if not accepted, pinging on the dependencies on that has to be a fairly high priority for beagle users. Sep 04 16:18:43 panto: ^^^ Sep 04 16:18:43 jkridner: hehe we'll see where it is available, hehe Sep 04 16:18:51 gregkh: I understand and will try to be productive :) Sep 04 16:19:04 jkridner, lol Sep 04 16:19:21 jkridner, DT maintainers are still on cloud cuckoo land Sep 04 16:19:22 panto: uphill climb? Sep 04 16:19:29 :( Sep 04 16:19:33 panto: what about the 3.11 vendor tree. anything i can do to help stabilize aspects? Sep 04 16:19:38 we're still debating the bindings... Sep 04 16:19:42 well, more voices pushing for this has to help. Sep 04 16:19:55 ZubairLK, the 3.11 mainline tracking tree I have already have it working Sep 04 16:20:22 * jkridner imagines himself on cloud cuckoo land Sep 04 16:20:24 so it is working and ported Sep 04 16:20:35 any drivers stable in 3.8 that don't work on 3.11? Sep 04 16:20:39 panto: i see.. Sep 04 16:21:08 ZubairLK: don't worry, you have been uber-productive, I'm not saying that at all, just don't want you to be bored for 2 weeks :) Sep 04 16:21:38 greghk: whip worn out yet? :D Sep 04 16:21:45 gregkh, so the question is, now that grant is off, who is going to pick up any DT core changes? Sep 04 16:22:00 gregkh: thanks. i wont be bored with my wedding prep time coming up :p Sep 04 16:23:00 panto: the dt maintainer(s)? Sep 04 16:23:06 panto: he handed it over to other people, right? Sep 04 16:23:11 * vvu|Log wonders where av500 is Sep 04 16:23:15 yes Sep 04 16:23:22 ZubairLK: ah, yeah, that sucks up lots of time, congrats. Sep 04 16:23:35 but so far I have seen nothing about dealing with core stuff Sep 04 16:23:36 ds2: are you looking for some work too? :) Sep 04 16:23:42 gregkh: :) Sep 04 16:23:43 * jkridner goes through ti.boardzoo.com distraction (addresses seem to be in Google Docs) Sep 04 16:23:43 everything is about bindings as ABI Sep 04 16:23:52 panto: check the MAINTAINERS file, someone is covering it. Sep 04 16:25:03 gregkh, in theory Sep 04 16:26:21 prpplague: I just paid for 2 more weathercapes out of my own pocket. if CCo can pick up the extra shipping costs, I'd be most grateful. otherwise, bill my paypal. Sep 04 16:26:22 * vmayoral wonders if koen is comfortable with the progress Sep 04 16:26:23 panto: then test out that theory. after the merge window closes, the subsystem maintainers are all really busy right now, this is my 2 week, "I get to ignore everyone else except the merge" window. Sep 04 16:26:34 gregkh, oh I will :) Sep 04 16:26:40 prpplague: shipping addresses are in the comments. Sep 04 16:27:17 jkridner: ahh ok i thought you were talking about something else Sep 04 16:27:55 vmayoral: yeah Sep 04 16:28:03 jkridner: let me check on that Sep 04 16:28:50 koen: and also comfortable that vmayoral knows what is required to wrap up in next 2 weeks? Sep 04 16:29:19 yes Sep 04 16:31:19 ka6sox: have you and jj2baile discussed trying to get the project going again in time to wrap-up before final evaluations? Sep 04 16:33:19 ka6sox: ping Sep 04 16:33:34 yes, we have Sep 04 16:33:57 k. thanks Sep 04 16:34:12 ka6sox: will the work ever be more open? the last blog entry was 8/22 Sep 04 16:35:11 av500, _av500_: did we lose you? Sep 04 16:35:42 Scotty, beam av500 up! Sep 04 16:36:27 anuj_, hatguy, jj2baile, tcort, vmayoral, vvu|Log, ZubairLK: I want to thank you again for everything you've done so far and request that you please make sure I know if there is any way I can help you be successful. Sep 04 16:37:17 vvu|Log: are you currently in a rowboat / devkit-download holding pattern or do you have clear tasks to wrap-up your project? Sep 04 16:37:22 jkridner: Thank-you and Thanks to all the mentors and fellow gsocers for the support :) Sep 04 16:37:31 *teary eyed already :p* Sep 04 16:37:34 jkridner: now i`m trying to make the android BBB work with my project Sep 04 16:37:39 jkridner: will do.. all mentors and the org-admin have been awesome! :) Sep 04 16:37:47 in like 20 minutes i will find out if it works or not Sep 04 16:37:48 ZubairLK: +1 Sep 04 16:37:52 after that i will run out of ideas Sep 04 16:38:14 Thanks ! It has been a great experience so far ! Really looking forward to some new ideas that have spawned from this summer Sep 04 16:38:20 vvu|Log: did the xml file + ueventd.rc do anything? Sep 04 16:38:27 ZubairLK: +1 as well Sep 04 16:38:29 now i`m trying that :D Sep 04 16:38:41 ah Sep 04 16:38:52 just edited the xml file Sep 04 16:39:05 and running the debugger now but it`s so slow :( Sep 04 16:39:37 jkridner: i believe it's going fine by my side. I received great support from koen and khem. And I'm trying to be in touch with the meta-ros guys and also the OSRF ones to follow up with the project Sep 04 16:39:47 <_eFfeM> sorry for being late, hope i did not miss all the fun Sep 04 16:40:00 jkridner: the problem now is that my app has links only to uSD card images, i will also need eMMC images to flash the BBB itself Sep 04 16:40:57 koen, jkridner: I've recently been speaking to Austin Hendrix from Willow who is in charge of the UbuntuARM ROS farm. He was wondering if it was possible to set up an Angstrom like build environment for Ubuntu Sep 04 16:41:09 vvu|Log: too much work to handle partition info and tarballs? Sep 04 16:41:33 mhmh kinda too much and i don`t think it can be applied to all uSD images Sep 04 16:41:39 koen, jkridner: i couldn't answer properly, i just check was he is doing right now https://github.com/ros-infrastructure/buildfarm Sep 04 16:41:54 vmayoral: cross-Ubuntu? sounds like more trouble than value Sep 04 16:42:01 i don`t think the android devices have enough power to extract those things Sep 04 16:42:25 vmayoral: starts to sound like scratchbox/qemu all over again Sep 04 16:42:54 jkridner: magic! the project will work with android on BBB Sep 04 16:43:02 ds2: the xml file was the secret Sep 04 16:43:07 * hatguy needs to attend some things now.. hopes his part in the meeting is over Sep 04 16:43:12 vvu|Log: can't wait to try it out! Sep 04 16:43:28 * jkridner drops the gavel. Sep 04 16:43:34 official meeting is over! Sep 04 16:43:38 i tested with a small app that searches for usb devices but the final app will work : Sep 04 16:43:41 :) Sep 04 16:43:46 :) Sep 04 16:44:07 see you next week for our last active-coding meeting. after that, it'll only be documentation/evaluation. Sep 04 16:44:12 jkridner: i believe that right now he is invoking pbuilder, which sets up a clean chroot environment using ARM packages, installs the build dependencies for the target package, and then invokes the deb build process (arm native gcc) inside of the chroot using qemu (ARM emulation). Sep 04 16:44:13 nifty Sep 04 16:44:53 jkridner: i don't fully understand the whole process yet so i'm probably going to spend some time understanding it but he seemed really interested in how easy it is for us using Angstrom Sep 04 16:49:09 jkridner: also what i see interesting is why downloading an image with the Android BBB takes so long Sep 04 16:49:23 i will need to implement flashing with file from local storage Sep 04 16:49:46 vvu|Log: that'll be really nice Sep 04 16:50:44 vmayoral: I think it would be easier to write some recipes for angstrom instead of this pretend to be native env Sep 04 16:50:50 vmayoral: i wanted from starters to do that but i got up with the downloading images Sep 04 16:53:35 vvu|Log: does "ip -s link" show any problems during the download? Sep 04 16:55:10 http://pastebin.com/nzHnt0xb Sep 04 16:55:16 the download does not start at all Sep 04 16:56:40 khem: all right, i'll use my time to work on the recipes then Sep 04 16:58:24 hmmm Sep 04 16:58:35 vvu|Log: can you ping the host of the download? Sep 04 16:58:40 also is it ftp or http? Sep 04 16:58:44 i have try{} catch{} and no error there Sep 04 16:58:46 http Sep 04 16:58:59 Hmmmm Sep 04 16:59:07 does the web browser work? Sep 04 16:59:23 i.e. can you goto www.beagleboard.org from there Sep 04 16:59:47 one or more seconds until it starts Sep 04 17:00:12 hmm Sep 04 17:00:27 can you do "getprops" and paste bin that (or was it getprop?) Sep 04 17:01:43 http://pastebin.com/SvPSeS4F Sep 04 17:01:56 i`m behind my router too and it works Sep 04 17:02:00 advertises dhcp good Sep 04 17:02:22 also browser told that page got unresponsive Sep 04 17:02:26 and to close it Sep 04 17:03:47 is your router sending out bad info ? Sep 04 17:03:50 [net.dns2]: [8.8.4.4] Sep 04 17:03:51 nop Sep 04 17:03:52 that seems odd Sep 04 17:04:15 that does seem to work Sep 04 17:04:43 mhmh on my pc i have dns my router ip Sep 04 17:04:52 maybe BBB choses not to take the dns Sep 04 17:04:58 you have 2 DNS setup onthe BBB Sep 04 17:05:03 8.8.4.4. and the router IP Sep 04 17:05:14 I suspect your router doesn't like something Sep 04 17:05:26 i have a mikrotik :-? Sep 04 17:05:30 a fairly good one Sep 04 17:05:34 never heard of it Sep 04 17:05:52 what IP does ur PC show as the router? Sep 04 17:06:09 worse case, install tcpdump on there and see what is going on Sep 04 17:06:16 on the BBB that is Sep 04 17:06:30 need to go. bbl Sep 04 17:06:33 cya Sep 04 17:08:05 ds2: from terminal on the BBB i can ping google Sep 04 17:21:51 vmayoral: too many problems with using ubuntu as dev platform :/ Sep 04 17:22:38 <_eFfeM> bye, going to enjoy the nice evening we have today Sep 04 17:30:49 koen: got it! Sep 04 17:57:45 jkridner: is always android so slow on the BBB or is just my uSD card bad ? Sep 04 17:58:51 first boot is pretty slow from what I remember. most uSD cards are pretty slow. I think it takes 3-5 minutes to boot. Sep 04 17:59:19 yeah but i`m at the 10th boot or smth :) Sep 04 18:24:14 android is painful on the AM335x Sep 04 18:25:01 vvu: hmmmm I donno how to fix it but I recall that some APIs have a check to see if you are really on line... prehaps parts of android do not think you are online Sep 04 18:25:29 i have checks to see if i`m online and they pass Sep 04 18:25:31 :-? Sep 04 18:25:41 vvu: run tcpdump on there while you are attempting to download. see if there is any traffic at all (it should have at least DNS or TCP SYN's). If not, it is the API problem Sep 04 18:25:52 but the android APIs have a different check Sep 04 18:26:15 there is one app that breaks if I tether - Mapquest. Apparently they check explicity for wifi or 3G so anything else fails. Sep 04 18:26:31 I donno the exact APIs as that isn't quite my area Sep 04 18:34:10 anyway but something awkward happens Sep 04 18:34:17 the usb manager sees the ROM Sep 04 18:34:21 i send MLO to the board Sep 04 18:34:30 but when MLO advertises itself i can`t see it anymore :-? Sep 04 18:36:45 hmmm Sep 04 18:36:58 problem with re-enumeration prehaps? Sep 04 18:37:10 or prehaps it advertises a different power requirement Sep 04 18:37:13 any errors? Sep 04 18:38:05 in dmesg no Sep 04 18:38:21 hmmm Sep 04 18:38:27 need to see more Sep 04 18:38:28 does lsusb show anything for it? Sep 04 18:38:39 don`t have it on the BBB Android Sep 04 18:38:56 anyway android is so slow at least the vnc server Sep 04 18:39:32 okay Sep 04 18:39:37 let me get you the alternative Sep 04 18:40:04 weed through /sys/bus/usb/devices Sep 04 18:40:45 it should be relatively sparse. if it really can't see it, then all you'll have is the 2 root hubs, IIRC Sep 04 18:41:02 think so Sep 04 18:41:08 oh. that is not good Sep 04 18:41:19 *think* Sep 04 18:41:23 i didn`t look there Sep 04 18:41:36 1st i need to hardcode Android to start adb on ethernet on boot Sep 04 18:41:40 check it when you get a chance. if that is the case, musb is not happy Sep 04 18:41:43 heheh Sep 04 18:42:05 * vvu likes and hates in the same time android Sep 04 18:42:30 i think i`m gonna take a break 2day and start 2morrow with fresh forces Sep 04 18:43:07 'k Sep 04 18:45:27 ds2: any idea where these properties that i get from getprop are stored Sep 04 18:45:28 ? Sep 04 18:49:50 vvu: hmmm some are dynamic some are setup in either /init*rc or /system/build.props Sep 04 18:50:06 in /init*rc, look for setprops Sep 04 18:50:09 setprop Sep 04 18:50:21 there is also the equiv of getprop/getprop in the API Sep 04 19:41:59 <_av500_> jkridner: vvu|Log : I could not make it Sep 04 19:42:21 <_av500_> I said it on the channel erarlier but seems that got lost Sep 04 20:39:18 k Sep 04 21:17:21 _av500_: managed to get usb host api working but there are other bugs...mainly because android on BBB is slow Sep 04 21:25:42 <_av500_> oh Sep 04 21:25:46 <_av500_> what did you fix? Sep 04 21:35:12 added an xml file for permissions to /system/etc/permissions/ Sep 04 21:35:17 to grant android permissions over usb Sep 04 21:35:32 <_av500_> ah Sep 04 21:35:34 <_av500_> nice Sep 04 21:36:13 but when i run the app i can send MLO to the board Sep 04 21:36:40 but then when MLO gets up and tried to receive u-boot my app does not see it anymore in the usb device list...need to investigate a bit here Sep 04 21:36:54 but hopefully it`s not a bug and me being stupid in the code Sep 04 21:37:24 also if you remember when i hacked u-boot to work with the kernel on android i hardcoded something in it...and that hack is biting back now Sep 04 21:37:32 * vvu|Log thinks so Sep 04 21:37:41 <_av500_> you can always unhack it Sep 04 21:38:05 yeah but it won`t work with nexus devices even then, need to see a bit Sep 04 21:38:16 i kept this hacked u-boot in my personal github Sep 04 21:38:21 to see what i changed Sep 04 21:41:43 _av500_: this this https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/u-boot/commit/0751cf2ef7263645c194fd0f9dc7c031905ec2cb **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 05 02:59:59 2013