**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 17:54:47 2014 Mar 06 17:55:40 that is slightly different from last year's project Mar 06 17:55:52 i feel relived :) Mar 06 17:56:12 sorry Mar 06 17:56:35 you were asking about last year's project Mar 06 17:56:36 so I was talking based on that Mar 06 17:56:48 yes no worry :) Mar 06 17:56:52 this idea is "yet another way to load PRU firmware onto the PRU" Mar 06 17:57:21 it that project https://github.com/zecozephyr/PRUJTAG ? Mar 06 17:57:32 no Mar 06 17:57:39 the PRUJTAG is what I was talking about Mar 06 17:58:25 yes i mean, the last year's project that you mentored was https://github.com/zecozephyr/PRUJTAG ? Mar 06 17:58:35 yes Mar 06 17:58:47 but the idea you pointed to is different from that Mar 06 17:58:55 PRUJTAG is about using the PRU for a JTAG interface Mar 06 17:59:13 the project you pointed to is about another way to configure the PRU Mar 06 17:59:56 so now in the project firmware loader (mine), what does that mean : "and monitor logic-level digital signals" ? Mar 06 18:00:32 how should be done the monitoring ? Mar 06 18:00:36 it means being able to watch the pins so you can test if it works **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 18:00:42 2014 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 18:03:13 2014 Mar 06 18:03:19 yes Mar 06 18:03:30 it sounds like you do not understand what the PRU is Mar 06 18:03:46 it in the proc Mar 06 18:04:10 realtime 200Mhz 32bits second proc Mar 06 18:04:15 but what is it for? what can it do? Mar 06 18:04:23 that are not subject to linux kernel annoyances Mar 06 18:04:50 it has to be programmed with asm Mar 06 18:05:38 and it can communicate with lot of things on the soc, but it make it less faster **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 18:06:04 2014 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 18:09:13 2014 Mar 06 18:09:13 not for bitcoins Mar 06 18:09:35 but as told you, i am in a robotic student association Mar 06 18:09:51 but you are the one asking about monitoring external lines Mar 06 18:10:20 mdp is traveling but if you can try to catch him... he would a good person to talk to too Mar 06 18:10:22 next year i will be in a engeenering scools and i aim to take robotic classes Mar 06 18:11:10 i know that they use raspberry pi, bu i think the BBB fits way more for this kind of computations Mar 06 18:11:21 when you have a lot of servo Mar 06 18:11:40 and you don't want to add other card for dealing with them Mar 06 18:11:55 them* the servos Mar 06 18:11:58 have you ever heard of the Propellel boards from Parallax? Mar 06 18:12:01 Propeller Mar 06 18:12:22 the RPI doesn't fit this model at all. Mar 06 18:12:36 no Mar 06 18:12:47 at best it has a GLES block that can be reused for internal processing but it doesn't do this IO stuff Mar 06 18:12:55 that is like comparing apples to oranges Mar 06 18:13:18 well they use openCV for vision Mar 06 18:13:26 chok: look at those boards... they are like 4-8 cores on a board...each core is almost like a PRU core Mar 06 18:13:36 but the BBB has much more pins and is more powerful i think Mar 06 18:13:49 they implement various periphrals w/sw Mar 06 18:14:28 it is not the main reason i want to work on this project Mar 06 18:15:19 just trying to point out what the PRU target use is Mar 06 18:15:27 i really like the kernel and i would able to write for it even if won't use it personnaly Mar 06 18:16:11 i need to go.... try to catch mdp or another mentor and run things by them Mar 06 18:17:01 just one things Mar 06 18:18:15 do you approve what i have told you or are you are annoyed about it ? Mar 06 18:18:37 I mean , if don't fit .. ? Mar 06 19:08:10 chok: I think ds2 was just busy. You'd said some things that didn't sound like you completely understood what a PRU is good for. That is fine and it seems like you might be getting it. Mar 06 19:08:32 chok: Just need to continue to build other relationships, perhaps with mdp as ds2 suggested. Mar 06 19:18:56 jkridner: any possible mentors i could talk to for the arduino-like library using starterware project? Mar 06 19:21:06 I'm not sure who's interested in it besides me. Mar 06 19:22:21 so are there slots for this project? Mar 06 19:24:07 slots aren't per-project, they are per-organization. We will allocate slots assigned to our organization based on several factors, including having mentors interested in the project idea. Mar 06 19:24:56 i see. so would i have to get some more mentors interested so that they would pursue it alongside me? Mar 06 19:25:16 jkridner: i know that i am not an PRU expert, yeah ! I don't even have any BB Mar 06 19:25:20 the more mentors you convince that you (A) can execute and (B) are doing something interesting, the more chance you'll have of having your proposal accepted. Mar 06 19:26:28 great. thanks for the reply :) Mar 06 19:26:46 electrobuz: those don't have to be mentors that are already active today, but do need to be mentors with a track-record of participating in open source, mentoring in general and can just generally get along with the BeagleBoard.org community. Mar 06 19:27:23 as-in, I'm trying to find some additional mentors this year that are anxious to be active. Mar 06 19:28:11 _av500_ and ds2 are great, but I'd like to see some more. Mar 06 19:28:55 me too :) it is always great to have more experience beside you. i would continue to ping some more mentors to see if i could get them interested in what i plan to do Mar 06 19:29:23 jkridner: I know that PRUs are really specifics cores. maybe the first thnig that i suggested to him being to be able to control servomotors was not a really good practical application for the PRU Mar 06 19:30:06 controlling server motors is a common application of the PRUs. Mar 06 19:30:22 jkridner: i know that that they only 8kB,so maybe not possible, but anyway i am still willing to dot it because i like to work with the kernel Mar 06 19:31:11 jkridner: so what was the part that it didn't sound like I completely understood what a PRU is good for Mar 06 19:31:11 chok: http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/next-gen_beaglebone/blog/2013/09/14/bbb--super-accurate-small-motor-control-with-a-beaglebone-black Mar 06 19:31:11 ? Mar 06 19:32:24 chok: https://bitbucket.org/intelligentagent/replicape Mar 06 19:34:01 thanks for the links Mar 06 19:34:41 perhaps the comment on wifi? Mar 06 19:34:43 not too sure. Mar 06 19:35:12 I think part of it was talking past each other regarding what the project idea was. Mar 06 19:37:01 on wifi, yes i think i elaborated a bit too much, Mar 06 19:37:42 i wanted to say that it was really good to handle communications protocols that need fast responses Mar 06 19:39:19 is PRU used to control some capes ? Mar 06 20:17:21 mdp: ping, if you have completed your travel Mar 06 20:18:49 morning Mar 07 00:33:56 mdp: ping **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 07 02:59:58 2014