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Mar 14 06:24:29 <vinu> hello sir, I'm interested in Beagle's Android based remote display project
Mar 14 06:25:07 <av500> hi
Mar 14 06:25:18 <vinu> I have worked on Beagle bone black and have been working on android for a year
Mar 14 06:25:28 <av500> good
Mar 14 06:25:50 <vinu> I have two of my web based android apps ready and working on third
Mar 14 06:27:06 <vinu> I had used Beagle bone with angstrom and had patche angstrom with Xenomai to achieve real time response to make it reliable for quad copters
Mar 14 06:28:37 <vinu> I had an idea of controlling BBB based quad copters remotely using Android cell phone, and I'm very interested in this project please help me
Mar 14 06:30:07 <vinu> Hello sir!!
Mar 14 06:32:29 <av500> I'm here
Mar 14 06:32:37 <av500> no need to despair
Mar 14 06:33:01 <av500> the project is about a USB connection
Mar 14 06:33:10 <av500> so not really for a quad copter
Mar 14 06:33:54 <vinu> I know sir, usb communication is what i have worked with during my graduation so it won't me difficult for me
Mar 14 06:34:18 <av500> have you ever done kernel work?
Mar 14 06:34:43 <av500> since that is involved on the BBB side
Mar 14 06:35:18 <vinu> Yes but to be specific as  I have mentioned I have patched Angstrom i.e. linux kernel with Xenomai
Mar 14 06:36:22 <vinu> So I am sure that I will be able to work on this project
Mar 14 06:36:53 <av500> do you have an idea what steps are involved?
Mar 14 06:37:05 <av500> did you look into how ADK works?
Mar 14 06:37:22 <av500> and what would be needed to send the display content from linux to another device?
Mar 14 06:37:42 <vinu> Well Im working on it.
Mar 14 06:37:46 <av500> ok
Mar 14 06:37:51 <ds2> what's the difference between host mode and device mode?
Mar 14 06:38:04 <av500> feel free to start a proposal on melange, you can update it all the time as you go along
Mar 14 06:38:06 <vinu> Wire less device like bluetooth is required to send data remotely and wirelelly
Mar 14 06:38:20 <av500> yes, but this project is not about wireless
Mar 14 06:38:24 <vinu> yes sir I can
Mar 14 06:38:28 <vinu> update it
Mar 14 06:39:51 <vinu> I know USB communication can also be used to do so
Mar 14 06:40:13 <av500> vinu: the android remote display project is about using USB, namely ADK
Mar 14 06:40:24 <av500> so there is no "also" here
Mar 14 06:43:04 <av500> [07:38] <av500> vinu: the android remote display project is about using USB, namely ADK
Mar 14 06:43:06 <av500> [07:38] <av500> so there is no "also" here
Mar 14 06:43:27 <vinu_> ok. please guide me more about it sir.
Mar 14 06:44:27 <av500> are you familiar with what ADK is?
Mar 14 06:44:34 <av500> if not, please look it up
Mar 14 06:46:03 <vinu_> I'm looking for ADK from last week.
Mar 14 06:46:30 <vinu_> not so much familiar with it
Mar 14 08:31:51 <Abhishek_> morning :)
Mar 14 12:20:43 <praveendath92> av500: ping
Mar 14 12:21:02 <praveendath92> vvu|Log: ping
Mar 14 12:29:08 <av500> yo
Mar 14 12:30:38 <praveendath92> Like I said yesterday I started my application process but I was skeptical about being able to modify it later.
Mar 14 12:31:07 <praveendath92> So here it is, a drive link to my Work-In-Progress application...
Mar 14 12:31:22 <praveendath92> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14jRBqx81CZFzZBhQF3VK9HBaO5BQOW_BrykRnORVRF8/edit
Mar 14 12:32:05 <av500> I am sure you can modify it
Mar 14 12:33:27 <praveendath92> Then I will add it to the GSoC site.
Mar 14 12:33:42 <praveendath92> I gave comment rights in that doc.
Mar 14 12:34:10 <praveendath92> Does the timeline looks fine ?
Mar 14 12:47:54 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: check my comment. look at usb kernel drivers
Mar 14 12:47:57 <vvu|Log> some simple examples
Mar 14 12:48:29 <vvu|Log> and try and make a simple echo driver which prints to syslog what it receives from the Android device. something really simple on which u can develop afterwards
Mar 14 12:48:37 <praveendath92> Thanks. I saw that. I will take a look.
Mar 14 12:48:48 <vvu|Log> there are a lot of examples on the internet with the structs and functions explained
Mar 14 12:49:45 <praveendath92> I will do that.
Mar 14 12:50:00 <av500> praveendath92: libusb and "linux kernel level" do not match
Mar 14 12:50:33 <av500> but as an intermediary step, libusb can be used
Mar 14 12:52:28 <praveendath92_> Connection lost :/
Mar 14 12:52:43 <praveendath92_> I just realised. I will have to change that. Like vvu just pointed out, I will try an example and see for myself.
Mar 14 12:53:03 <av500> ok
Mar 14 12:53:55 <praveendath92_> Does the timeline look fine ?
Mar 14 12:55:36 <alexanderhiam> so I take it mentors can give feedback on proposals before they're submitted to melange? I was unclear on that...
Mar 14 12:56:20 <vvu|Log> u can submit on melange
Mar 14 12:56:22 <vvu|Log> then update there
Mar 14 12:56:23 <vvu|Log> no worries
Mar 14 12:56:28 <vvu|Log> just put it there so mentors can see it
Mar 14 12:56:45 <praveendath92_> I will do that.
Mar 14 12:57:10 <praveendath92_> Also, I need some comments from you guys...
Mar 14 12:57:48 <praveendath92_> regarding the impact this shall have on the BB community once successful.
Mar 14 12:59:14 <vvu|Log> i'll write a couple of lines 2night
Mar 14 12:59:19 <vvu|Log> have a quiz now, gotta run !
Mar 14 13:00:21 <praveendath92_> Good luck ! Ciao later :)
Mar 14 13:53:11 <vvu|Log> praveendath92: survived the quiz!
Mar 14 13:53:47 <praveendath92> Haha. I know that feel ;)
Mar 14 13:54:07 <vvu|Log> you are masters or what ?
Mar 14 14:28:48 <praveendath92> I'm in last year of my Bachelors
Mar 14 14:42:54 <stonescenter> hello
Mar 14 14:43:28 <av500> hello
Mar 14 14:43:53 <stonescenter> av500: I have sent my proposal of Remote Display for BB to google-melange
Mar 14 14:44:17 <stonescenter> I will improve it these days
Mar 14 14:44:31 <stonescenter> I hope someone could give some feedbacks
Mar 14 14:44:48 <stonescenter> :)
Mar 14 14:45:22 <av500> sure
Mar 14 14:45:37 <stonescenter> Now it is just focus on Main Idea
Mar 14 16:32:40 <karki> Hey! after a lot of discussion with Alexander Hiam, I finally wrote a proposal for PyBBIO and uploaded it to melange. Mentors please have a look :)
Mar 14 19:11:32 <sidbh> jkridner: i've uploaded my proposal, pls check it out and give me feedback
Mar 14 19:11:41 <_av500_> we will
Mar 14 19:11:42 <_av500_> thanks
Mar 14 19:50:07 <Abhishek_> ds2: Apart from edge based triggering, what could we be able to add to the LA which could augment its functionality?
Mar 14 19:50:33 <ds2> hard core features or UIish features?
Mar 14 19:51:38 <Abhishek_> Something that could make it useful for beginners, as you had mentioned in your suggestions
Mar 14 19:52:03 <ds2> being able to configure traces based on an onscreen diagram of the connectors might be helpful
Mar 14 19:52:25 <ds2> normal LA's would say something like channel N and you can put in a name or description
Mar 14 19:52:53 <Abhishek_> yes
Mar 14 19:52:55 <ds2> but since we are doing it on the board itself, we can put a picture of the connector on the screen and refernce it like P8-40 (Connector P8, pin 40)
Mar 14 19:53:30 <ds2> decodes would be nice but that can be leveraged from sigrok, etc... I think that would put it beyond the scope of a summer
Mar 14 19:56:47 <Abhishek_> I did fork sigrok today evening, however setting up a build system on Win8 did not lead to much breakthrough (The project admin recommended cross-compiling Windows binaries on Linux) so I think by this weekend I should be able to write a dummy driver which can be later filled with PRU code and compiled and run on the BBB.
Mar 14 19:57:49 <ds2> nifty
Mar 14 19:59:06 <Abhishek_> I also cross-compiled the test application today with the arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc, which when statically linked, ran fine on the BBB but refused to run otherwise.
Mar 14 19:59:52 <ds2> statically means you pulled in the libraries with the app...no matching problems
Mar 14 20:00:43 <Abhishek_> indeed.
Mar 14 20:01:44 <Abhishek_> I am currently at my proposal, and I would post draft 1 tomorrow for comments from you all
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